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committee michael mccaul. chairman, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> pretty grim morning over in israel in the fallout from the golan heights strikes. secretary blinken told reporters this morning "every indication is the rockets were from or in some way related to hezbollah. a u.s. official tells cbs news there is no real doubt this has been hezbollah. have you been briefed on the situation in the golan heights and what can you tell us. >> yes, i can. it did come from hezbollah within the five-mile range that u.n. skouns resolution says hezbollah cannot operate within this five-mile zone, killing 12 children on a playground and it's interesting, their arab druze religious minority sector doesn't make sense why they would target those people and now they're claiming they had nothing to do with it. perhaps that may be why. >> for someone who's just kind of tuning in to this issue, they hear about israel's war with hamas and hear about hezbollah

attacking in the golan heights, and you heard senator lindsey graham on "face the nation" he warned of possible nuclear concerns here if this spills and spirals into a broader conflict. what's the big picture here of the threat of this situation exacerbating in the coming days and weeks? >> well, we don't want escalation, for sure. i think it's important to note that hezbollah and hamas, houthi rebels are all proxies of iran, like the tentacles of the head of the snake, if you will, and so they don't operate without, you know, without iran's consent, and so what i think is happening, to be honest with you, as they debate the cease-fire, iran doesn't want normalization and that is the process with saudi arabia and israel, that they were entering into prior to october the 7th. this is a very important point. once iran saw this, i think that culminated in october the 7th. so it's not in their interest to

have any cease-fire agreement that would somehow keep -- they want sinwar to stay in power and hamas to stay in power otherwise they lose power and the saudis made it clear to get to the normalization peace process sinwar has to go, hamas has to go, and we need a new form of governance for the palestinian people. >> israeli president benjamin netanyahu in the united states this past week. what have you heard and been told about his request to have more shipments of weapons delivered on a fast-track basis? >> i sign off on all military sales and the ones that have gone to israel and ukraine and taiwan and so the fact is, though, that these shipments have been delayed intentionally. the four corners, that being the chair and ranking member, house foreign affairs and senate relation, we signed off on these weapons and for some reason the administration has withheld those weapons. >> what's the reason. >> >> i think maybe it gives them leverage over israel and

decision making processes. when i talked to the prime minister in his office, this creates daylight between the united states and israel and i think it's dangerous, especially right now, for us to somehow put daylight between us and our most important u.s. ally, the democracy in the middle east. >> let's turn to the assassination attempt on former president donald trump. what is the role you have going forward in a possible task force to investigate this assassination attempt? have you spoken with speaker johnson about having some kind of role? because not only are you focused on foreign policy, but also on homeland security. what do you want to do and what should happen now? >> what i want to see is sort of like how i've conducted the afghanistan investigation, that we're starting to wind up. we'll have a report on the anniversary of the bombing. professionalism is very important. experience. you want people that either have, you know, special operators that know how snipers

work to federal prosecutors like myself that know how the process works. you know, i conducted national security events when i led the joint terrorism task force, so i want it to be experienced but done very professionally without a lot of theater, if you will. you want it to be credible more than anything deserves that. >> will you be on the task force? >> i have no idea. >> would you be willing to? >> if asked i would serve but there are other qualified people. >> is it feasible to get a report done on the assassination attempt by the end of this year? >> i think so. i went out to the sigh and rooftop. this individual should never have been that close to the president of the united states. it was close and the fact that he got there in the first place was a failure. it should have been stopped. what's interesting, robert, is that he had a detonation device on him and two bombs in the car. his plan was, was to assassinate the president, create a diversion by blowing up his vehicle on the other side of the property and he could escape.

>> do you have confidence in the secret service to protect former president trump and to protect president biden and other protectees at this point. the director has recently resigned. but former president trump is going back to pennsylvania for raleighs. the secret service is with him. do you have confidence in the secret service? >> i chaired homeland for three terms and i have faith and confidence them. i didn't have confidence in their leadership, and i'm glad director cheadle did the right thing and resigned like president reagan's secret service did. any time you have an attempt at a assassination that is a failure and she said that herself. the president is under a lot of threats, obviously, and one from iran as well. they asked for additional agents. they were not given that. >> should congress step in in your view and provide more resources, more agents? should -- is there congressional role in addressing the secret service issue? >> i would be happy to do that but for the most part they have

the resources. this particular event and the trump campaign itself, they were der ril lec in their responsibilities. >> when you look at foreign policies you have issue with the border. what's your assessment of where things stand with u.s. border policy and the national security threats with this mounting number of arrests at the border in recent weeks? >> in addition to the felons and fentanyl and i can go on and on about that, what i worry about, robert, is look, you had the fall of afghanistan, thousands of isis-k came out of the prisons at bag gram, end up in a region which is pakistan, afghanistan, tajikistan, they make their way over, come through mexico, and they enter into the united states isis. when i chaired homeland we worried about this but never saw it. we have isis in the homeland. the fbi has detained the eight videos but the question is how many more are here. >> chairman mccaul of texas, thank you for stopping by "face the nation." we always appreciate your time.

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we're back with maryland democratic senator chris van hollen. senator, great to have you here at "face the nation." let's begin with your colleague senator majority leader chuck schumer on "face the nation" a few minutes ago. when were talking about israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, his visit to the united states. we're glad to have you here. you've been so outspoken on israel, and its handling of its war with hamas. he was pretty clipped in talking about why he didn't shake netanyahu's hand. he said i wanted to recognize the relationship between the u.s. and israel but did not say he had any regrets making the formal invitation. do you agree with the senator's take on all of this with the netanyahu visit or not? >> robert, it's good to be with you and just to be very clear, yes, i've been critical of the conduct of the war in gaza, but always affirmed israel's right to self-defense.

in fact, duty to self-defense. so look, the message that i got from my trip to israel nine days ago where i met with hostage families was, don't be used as a political prop by bibi netanyahu in an address to congress that will help boost his very low popularity ratings in israel at a time when he and his extremist colleagues are not prioritizing the return of the hostages. they're not prioritizing a cease-fire and return of the hostages. so they encouraged me, many of them, to express my views in support of the people of israel by not participating in what they saw was a political ploy by prime minister netanyahu. so that's what i did. >> you said they told you to not be used as a prop. do you believe congress was used as a prop by netanyahu? >> i do think prime minister

netanyahu accomplished his goal of using congress as a prop to boost his support in israel, especially among his right wing extremists. if you saw the people who gave two thumb's up to his speech, they were ben go vir. these are right wing extremists. >> was it a mistake for democrats to support him coming to congress? >> i believe it was. i've expressed that view, but the reality is, obviously, he came so for those of us who thought it was a mistake to have him here, we expressed our views by not participating. and again, that was the message i got, not only from hostage families, but i also met robert, with a lot of israeli families whose loved ones were victims of the october 7th hamas attacks, who told me that neither prime minister netanyahu or any member of his government had come to see them, had reached out to

them, and their message to me, as i said on the senate floor in a speech last week was, before he comes to the united states congress, have him come look us in the eye and explain his responsibility in the intelligence failure that made the hamas attack even worse. >> if you're frustrated with prime minister netanyahu should the president refuse to meet with netanyahu in the future? he met with him this past week. where should the line be traun with netanyahu? >> my view is that we need to really stand up and confront the extremist policies of prime minister netanyahu and knowtrich and ben go vir. that's the message we're getting from many in israel. while you had people in the congress standing up and giving netanyahu big applause -- >> real affirmation. >> you had people in the street, israelis in the street, protesting the fact that netanyahu and his right wing

extremists, they've been clear they don't prioritize the return of the hostages, you had israelis protesting that fact and the message to me was, if you really want to take a pro-israel position right now you have to confront the very extreme positions of netanyahu. this is not just their refusal to prioritize a cease-fire or a return of the hostages. also, many see some of the extremi extremi extremist measures on the west bank where they're pushing palestinians off their lands allowing extremist settlers to assault palestinians with relative impunity, all of this is going to add fuel to the fire. >> you have a political antenna, a policy antenna. i have been listening to vice president harris this week speak about israel and what's going on with the war with hamas. you've been listening as well. do you believe there is any daylight between her position and articulation of the policy

on israel versus president biden's? >> i don't know. what i think about vice president harris' approach here is that all the elements of president biden's approach are there. she supports them. she's been part of that. so israel's right to self-defense, the fact that how the war is conducted matters. hamas can have no control or governance after this war no more october 7th, but also, very importantly, that the palestinian authority has to be the nucleus of governance in a postwar gaza. they have lots of flaws. they need lots of help to reform. they also need resources. very importantly, you mentioned this with congressman mccaul, a path, although he left out this part, a path to a two-state solution to assure that the great majorit of the palestinian people who have nothing to do with hamas, can

have some light at the end of the tunnel. we need equal security, equal dignity, equal rights of self-determination for israelis and palestinians alike and the president has coupled that with what you did talk about, a normalization agreement with saudi arabia which look very good for the security interest rates of israel. >> she will remain president biden's vice president for the rest of the term but also now the presumptive democratic nominee. 100 days between nownd at election. would you counsel her in any way to separate or differentiate herself or define herself on the israel issue on her own terms quickly or keep going along as is? >> i believe the elements of her policy are the same. but the question is, how we succeed in achieving the elements of the policy. i have been critical of the biden administration at times for not using all the levers of influence we have to achieve president biden's stated goals.

including what a postwar gaza looks like. i was pleased that after her meeting with prime minister netanyahu, the vice president made a statement, a public statement, not a written statement, and she did it with clarity. >> senator chris van hollen of maryland, we appreciate you coming by "face the nation." we will be back in a moment. ok, 500 deluxe garden gnomes. wow. i only meant to order five. there's not enough money in my account for these.

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my statements had anything to do with what's played out, but it is clear to me or was then, that there was a shift and new mexico is a bellwether state, the largest percentage of hispanic voters per capita in the country and that there was a bit of a, if you will, stalling out, and that i found very concerning. that was confirmed by national polling that had biden beating trump by 1 percentage point among hispanic voters. and since his personal decision to certainly put democracy first, i will say i'm seeing a re-energized, particularly with young voters, with i think is now playing out in national polling, showing harris beating trump with hispanic voters by 19 percentage points. >> how is vice president harris playing out on the issue of immigration and the border in your state? a border state.

you heard senator graham earlier in the program kept coming back to the issue of the border with vice president harris. are democrats ready to counter the republican attacks and are you confident that she personally can address this issue in an effective way for new mexico? >> well, let's do a couple of things. first, i'm going to answer the question. yes. there's renewed enthusiasm because what the hispanic voters here want is a prosecutor who's got a history in a border state, dealing with border immigration areas that can cause risks like her prosecution of transnational gangs on drugs and guns. but they also want someone who is going to be balanced on immigration policy and that's what the biden-harris administration brokered with congress and this is the second time we've seen trump and his cast of characters be really clear they don't want immigration reform. they want fear, division. they're going to continue to

demonize hispanics and latinos and immigrant communities. they see someone who is tough, fair, balanced, pragmatic, and somebody they can relate to in terms of her own family. that motivates hispanic voters. >> senator graham called vice president harris the border czar. that wasn't her title. she was given responsibility to deal with the root causes of migration when it comes to the border. your voters in new mexico i've spoken to them. they see you as a straight talker. what's your grade, straight talk, politically speaking, of how she handled the issue of migration during the last three and a half years? >> well, as a straight shooter, thank you, robert, thank you new mexico voters, we have to be engaged in better diplomacy in central america and south america. she did that very effectively. in fact, we had meetings of the americas and latino leaders from south of the border and those

have been incredibly promising. they're trying to create a label that really belongs squarely with the president and stephen miller themselves. they want to be dictators. they want to be dictators on the border. they want to demonize immigrants. they have been incredibly racist. they're gaslighting. and they have done absolutely nothing on the border that makes any sense in the last administration, they want to do mass deportation. here's something that i think is really important and telling about this issue. right now, border crossings are as low as they've ever been. certainly lower than they were in the trump administration, and we've seen a 55% decrease. and we've seen the right public safety activity at the border in this administration. >> but what about more border patrol agents? there has been reported including a leaked phone call you need more from dhs, more

border patrol. you've been positive about the administration so far in this conversation, but you've often been urgent about your need for more resources at the border. does this administration need to do more for you and your state in erms of allocation of resources and agents or not? >> they do. and they're going to get that opportunity if republicans in congress weren't directed to make sure that they did not do anything to pass a bipartisan border deal that put 1500 more border patrol and 1200 more i.c.e. agents. you bet. and the shift of border patrol by president biden into ports of entry, is exactly what we needed so that we can focus there and then you minimize, right, you can't seek asylum if you're not coming in a port of entry. that gets that coyotes and those inappropriate crossings. they both did something based on

my urging, and on the right side of this new border deal. which will get done when harris is president. we take the house and we keep the senate. >> on the search for a running mate for vice president harris, senator mark kelly from the sun belt, your region of the country u is at or near the top of the list based on our reporting. how much of a help would it be for arizona, for new mexico, to have someone like senator kelly on the ticket? would you recommend he's picked by vice president harris? >> well, my recommendations really shouldn't matter. this is a personal decision by candidate harris and the vice president and i respect that she's going to make a perfect balanced ticket choice. look, this is one of the highest per capita enlisted and veteran communities in the country, new mexico. you've got a veteran, you've got an astronaut, you've got someone who's got a very strong public safety record, you've got someone who understand the west,

when understand water. it's not just immigration. he would be an incredibly strong pick. you know, the very first images from space were captured from new mexico in the '40s. this would be a very strong pick. but she's got a really deep bench, which is i think another really important facet in this race. the democrats have people who are ready to move the country forward. she's about progress and the future and trump is about none of those things. >> governor, we really appreciate you taking the time. that didn't seem like an endorsement of senator kelly, but something close to it. we'll have to check in. >> he knows i love him. come on. he knows i love him. all right. >> governor, we'll be right back and thanks again. ♪ “billathi a”" by björn jason lindh ♪ [metal creaking] [camera zooming] ♪ [window slamming] woman: [gasps] [dog barking] ♪

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