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missiles between israel and hezbollah militants based in lebanon, plus campaign 2024 enters a new phase. in what israel is calling a preemptive strike against hezbollah targets inside lebanon and with what iran-backed hezbollah militants say is a retaliatory response, this morning there remains hope of avoiding a wider conflict in the middle east. a report from tel aviv and h.r. mcmaster will also be here. plus, how will the harris-walz campaign keep their momentum going following their glitzy chicago convention? the record $540 million raised in the last month will certainly help. but how will they tackle tough challenges on the economy, the middle east, and immigration policy? >> a strong middle class has always been critical to america's success, and building that middle class will be a
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defining goal of my presidency. meanwhile, former president trump struggles to find the right tone for his campaign. >> they say to me, sir, please stick to policy. don't stick to personality. >> we'll check in with two congressional democrats, summer lee from the all-important swing state of pennsylvania and pat ryan, who's defending his battleground district in new york. oklahoma republican governor kevin stitt will also be here. with new covid vaccines arriving at the end of a summer surge, ahead of the fall, we'll check in with former fda commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." overnight, there has been a
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military escalation in the middle east with what could be the long anticipated opening salvo in an expanded regional conflict. the u.s. did not participate in the israeli strike against hezbollah, but president biden's top military adviser general cq brown is expected in israel today. the escalation has not disrupted the diplomacy under way in cairo where cia director bill burns continues to broker a cease-fire in gaza as well as a hostage and prisoner exchange between israel and hamas. here in the u.s. the developments are being very closely watched from the campaign trail as the countdown to election day continues. we begin with cbs news foreign correspondent imtiaz tyab in tel aviv. >> reporter: israeli missile defenses intercept rockets in the skies above northern israel. the iran-backed hezbollah movement in lebanon says it fired over 300 missiles and drones into israeli territory. israel's military said the attack could have been much
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larger had it not carried out a massive overnight preemptive strike inside southern lebanon apparently involving around 100 fighter jet. hezbollah has said its strikes were in retaliation for the assassination of fouad shukur, one of the group's most senior commanders in beirut last month. we were at his memorial service shortly after he was killed. >> the calls to avenge fouad shukur's death and israeli assassination are only growing. people here want revenge. >> reporter: a revenge attack that took hezbollah nearly a month to carry out. this is a contributing writer at the atlantic and author of "black wave". >> it feels to me as though everybody is in a way taking their time to make sure that everything is choreographed, telegraphed, in a way that i a louse it to be to be contained. >> reporter: at least three fighters were killed in the
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israeli strikes on lebanon and hezbollah says it killed one soldier in israel. while it's hoped the threat of an all-out regional war stays contained, margaret, hezbollah is warning this morning's attack was only the first phase. >> imtiaz tyab in tel aviv. we're joined by the israeli ambassador to the united states. good to have you here. >> good morning, margaret. >> we heard about the casualties. tell me, was this friendly fire? did hezbollah, as they claim, actually cause some israeli casualties? >> so what happened yesterday is we identified concrete planning and preparation by hezbollah to launch a massive missile and drone attack into israel, and we carried the real-time operation in order to degrade those capabilities that were about to be launched to israel. we were successful. and nevertheless, they launched
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several hundred rockets into israel and also drones that were aimed at central israel and we intercepted all of them. one of our soldiers was killed by the debris of israeli intercepters. >> do you assess at this point that we are escalating towards a regional war, or that we are taking a step back? is there risk of escalation? >> i believe that the success of our operation yesterday prevented an escalation to a major war. this threat is still there. we still need a settlement with hezbollah in lebanon. they followed hamas by launching a war towards israel on october 8th and have been firing thousands of rockets into israel since then. we give a chance for diplomacy and we hope it works, but if not, we have nearly 70,000 people in israel, northern israel, away from their homes,
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refugees in their own country, and we have to make sure they can go back safely to their homes. >> and many in southern lebanon unable to return to their homes. it's being reported that israel and hezbollah have been trading messages back and forth, not to escalate. i know that the qatari prime minister is headed to iran tomorrow with a message not to escalate. do you believe that you can avoid a direct attack by iran on israel? >> i believe so. i think the iranians are contemplating an attack on israel, but decided for now to put it on hold. i think the main reason for that was deterrent messages from israel and u.s. and a very strong u.s. posture in the region, which tells you that you can deter them. >> there are 40,000 u.s. troops now in the region. what is it that you think
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general c.q. brown will do when he arrives in israel today? is this further planning for potential attacks? >> well, as i said, we do not seek war, and we don't believe that they seek war. however, there's room for miscalculation and i think part of his visit is to make sure everything is under control. again, the u.s. posture in the region is very strong. i think played a role in deterring iran. >> in cairo, you mentioned the diplomacy that is under way. the cia director, bill burns, is there. one of the president's top advisors as well. hamas has sent a political delegation to cairo. now we know it is yahya sinwar who is the ultimate decider here, but do you see there is momentum in these talks? is a breakthrough that brings home the hostages possible? >> we certainly hope so. as we speak we have an israeli
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delegation in cairo along with all the mediators and hamas representative and we hope to make progress. as secretary blinken said a few days ago, the u.s. put forward a bridging proposal, which was accepted by israel, and now it's up to hamas to say they accept it or not. so they did send their representative. we still are not 100% sure that they are in the game. we certainly hope so. if that is the case, we can make progress towards a deal. >> the secretary of state sdb say the bridging proposal is accepted but your prime minister has said things publicly that seem to contradict that in terms of the specifics, particularly among that corridor. what is realty? >> the realty is that we are not obliged to leave the corridor at this phase. we are reducing our forces there. we had constructive talks in egypt a few days ago. we are well coordinated with the
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u.s. administration. we are awaiting for hamas to see if they are in the game. >> when you say in this phase, are you being specific in saying that's not part of phase one of this multiphase diplomatic deal the u.s. is trying to broker. >> the deal is multiphase but we are focusing on phase one. phase one we hope to get as many live hostages out as possible. it comes with pausing our military operation for at least 42 days. in that period, we hope that, again, we can get out as many live hostages as possible. every day that passes endangers their lives. >> ambassador herzog, thank you. >> thank you. >> i know it's been a long night. i appreciate you being live with us this morning. >> thank you. >> we are joined by cbs news foreign policy and national security contributor retired lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster, a new book out, "at
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war with ourselves: my tour of duty in the trump white house." about his service there as national security adviser. welcome back to the program. just on the news of the moment, centcom has about 40,000 u.s. troops in the region. this real muscular show of force. how concerned are you about miscalculation and blowback to those u.s. forces? >> yeah. well what i'm concerned about, margaret, those forces will be constrained in what they're able to do in response. i think what we've seen is a reluctance to act like we know what the return address is for this violence. the return address is iran. i think all americans -- >> what do you want to do -- >> iran is pursuing a strategy in which it is willing to expend every arab life, every palestinian, lebanese life in pursuit of its objective of destroying israel. iran is continuing to funnel weapons not only into southern lebanon, but to essentially a
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proxy army in syria, into the west bank, this is why the philadelphia corridor is important to israel, keep hamas isolated from a resupply as well. at the same time iran is racing to produce a nuclear device, so i think what we have to recognize is this horrible situation in the region that's been going on for 40 years, right. it's important to remember that the hezbollah commander who was killed and who the -- hezbollah is trying to launch these attacks in retribution for that, he was responsible in part for the 1983 bombings that killed 241 marines. 1983. this has been going on for decades and i think the narrative that you constantly hear about turning down the temperature, escalation management, the reluctance really to confront iran directly, that actually gives iran license to escalate on
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their own terms with impunity. >> well, this is just one of many extremely serious situations that the next commander in chief will be walking into. it doesn't go away in january. and that's why i want to get to some of what you wrote about in your book. you had this front row seat. you advised donald trump on very sensitive national security matters. you write, he found it difficult to distingush, quote, between those who brought him sound analysis and those, real or imagined, who brought hem hackneyed bromides. he would say things like go bomb the drugs in mexico or why don't we take out the whole north korean army during one of their parades. if trump wins re-election, will he be able to recruit high-quality advisors who can actually help him make sound decisions? >> margaret, i think so, especially in confirmed positions. if it's a trump administration. >> congress would stop him from putting someone who isn't quality? is that what you're saying
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>> i think so. there are people willing to serve who can help do what we tried to do in that first year. the narrative around that first year was all about chaos, but we got a lot done. in fact, the story is largely about overcoming that kind of infighting, that war with ourselves, to produce policy outcomes that advanced america's interests. one of those was a dramatic reversal of the obama administration iran policy, which, sadly, the biden administration has put back into place. >> well, iran continued with its nuclear development after trump exited the nuclear deal against the advice of his secretary of state and his defense secretary, so -- >> i'm talking about the sanctions relief, and the degree to which not enforcing the trump-era sanctions had really resulted in about $100 billion transferred to the iranians which they've used to intensify their proxy wars in the region from iraq to yemen, to syria and lebanon and gaza with the october 7th attacks.
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>> you detail specific examples of china's xi jinping, vladimir putin, even israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, manipulating donald trump and you saw it as it happened. you wrote that trump's lack of historical knowledge made him susceptible to xi jinping's efforts to generate sympathy. so what is the scenario you fear that in a second term donald trump pulls u.s. troops out of asia or brokers a transaction to give up taiwan? >> i write in the book, margaret, ability this dissonance that donald trump carries with him. opposing ideas that sometimes he finds it difficult to reconcile. that's why i think it's important he has a competent team around him to help him identify his own agenda. i mean the story in a war with ourselves is in large measure an effort to guard his independence of judgment. in any administration there are people who try to manipulate a president into decisions. they don't want to give a
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president options. what my experience was during that first year and the period in which we put into place a lot of big shifts in policy, if you give him best analysis, give him multiple options, it's in comparison of those options that he can consider the long-term costs and consequences and make sound decisions. also in the book, though, i write about at times he finds it tough to stick with those decisions because people know how to push his buttons, buttons associated with maintaining the complete support of his political base. >> manipulate him. you also wrote a specific example where trump wrote a flattering note to vladimir putin in 2018 and happened to be the same time that this poisoning had happened on the soil of a u.s. ally by russia. >> right. >> when you got home you said to your wife after a year in this job, i cannot understand putin's hold on trump. >> yeah. >> how do you explain that now? >> i explained it in the book. i try to place the president's belief he could have a good deal
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with vladimir putin in context of the two previous presidents who thought they could have a good deal with putin. but also, you know, president trump, people know this, he likes a big splashy deals. he was pursuing that with putin, with xi jinping, and of course putin is the best liar in the world. so i struggled, should i write about how putin tried to manipulate president trump or not, and i thought, well putin knows how he was trying to do it, maybe in writing about how putin was trying to press donald trump's buttons, that will make a future president trump if elected less susceptible to those tactic sdpls he on the campaign trail argues that putin was afraid of him, putin wouldn't invaded ukraine. >> he has a point in a couple years. in that first trump administration i tell the story of how he imposed more sanctions on russian entities in the one year than the previous eight years of the obama administration and the really critical decision, i think, was to provide the ukrainians with
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defensive capabilities especially in the form of javelin missiles. in the area of inconsistency i tell the story about how that support was suspended, you know, to get evidence of the biden family's, you know, corrupt activities in ukraine. >> the grounds for impeachment which you're saying were justified. >> so there is -- there's an element in the story about how he can make really sound decisions and disrupt things that need to be disrupted in terms of foreign policy and national security, but often times struggles to hang on to those decisions and see them through. >> h.r. mcmaster, thank you. it's an interesting read. >> thank you, margaret. >> we'll be right back. introducing, ned's plaque psoriasis. he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. otezla can help you get clearer skin. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression, suicidal thoughts, or weight loss.
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upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. live in the moment. ask your doctor about otezla. we turn now to pennsylvania democratic congresswoman summer lee. she joins us from pittsburgh. good morning to you, congresswoman. >> good morning. >> our cbs polling shows that a majority of americans, 59% of them, think the u.s. should
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encourage israel to stop or decrease its military actions in gaza. at the democratic convention, vice president harris received loud applause for these remarks. >> president biden and i are working to end this war, such that israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in gaza ends, and the palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom, and self-determination. >> now that is largely just restating existing u.s. policy. do you think that's sufficient outreach to those who felt the administration hasn't expressed empathy? >> you know, i think that, you know, i think people who are experiencing this, right, who
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are outside of the arena, who have been organizing since october, you know, that is a step, but i think what they were really asking for was, a, of course, the opportunity to speak for themselves. felt like all people when you are experiencing something, you want to be able to tell your own story, and a lot of the people who -- palestine american, arabs and muslims were asking for that opportunity. while we all, obviously, believe that there should be a cease-fire immediately and permanently and that palestinians, just like israelis, deserve the right to self-determination, we have to do more than just say that we believe that. we have to actually take steps that are going to evidence that, take steps that are going to show we're willing to start to listen to people who have been outside of the political i would say conversation for so long. it's been a third rail. and there's going to be a lot more work that we have to do to show to this demographic that the democratic party is -- includes them in its big tent, in our foreign policy
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considerations, and also includes them in our conversations around humanity and human right sgs. >> you're talking about the decision to take the stage. congressman ro khanna said it was a mistake. why do you think democratic leaders resisted it and is it a self-inflicted wound? >> i think that there has been -- and i think if you you really look at this long before october 7th, it was almost taboo to talk about palestinians, the experiences that they have, and that they continue to have in our politics, and i think if this was a continuation of it. to put on stage, first of all, i think it's important that we recognize that even the way we talk about the movement, is in a way that sometimes is a little -- is broad. it doesn't always take into account what folks are arguing
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about. whether the black lives moment or movement for palestinian rights always a rush to say their movement, the way they protests, tactics, strategies are inconvenient and i think that that's just the way that we've done it, especially when we're nervous about a presidential election that we all know is incredibly important. defeating trump is the top concern. but we can do that and we can also get space, create space, for people voices that are marginalized. we missed an opportunity to do that here. in doing so what we are essentially saying is every palestinian thinks the same way, that all folks who are protesting who are voicing their concerns are one group, and not individuals, not all folks who are coming with different perspectives. i think there were room and space to say there is room in the democratic party to say thre is room for that as well. >> this was a historic nomination of vice president harris as the first black, first south asian nominee of a major party. she's chosen really not to talk
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about the historic nature of that. do you think she should? >> i think that it speaks for itself. you know, i think that there is, you know, zero chance that folks all across america dor not recognize that she would be the first black woman, the first south asian woman and person to be not just our party's nominee, but hopefully our president. so to talk about it it's almost a filler. i think that what they're doing and what they should be doing is talking about the issues, talking about the things that are not just unique to women, black women, asian women, but make her qualified for the job. >> okay. >> her resume, the policies that bring democrats to -- >> yeah. >> to vote on november 5th. >> let's talk about those things. >> we know there's history here. >> let's talk about those things on the other side of this next break. stay with us. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight.
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