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scientists monitor the latest signs. welcome to world news america. the world health organization says the main hospital in gaza is no longer functioning and nearly a cemetery. they say the cemetery -- the situation is dire as it is almost without power. a doctor there says some premature babies have already died and 30 more need to be moved to egypt urgently if they are to survive. hamas officials say seven premature babies have died because of a lack of power. there is fighting around the hospital in gaza city. israel says hamas built command centers under hospitals and insists it is not targeting the hospital itself. hamas is designated as a terror organization by the u.k. and the
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u.s. president biden spoke to reporters about the situation in gaza. he told them the hospital must be protected. >> it is my expectation that there will be less intrusive action relative to the hospital. we are in contact with the israelis and there is an effort to take this pause to deal with the release of prisoners. >> the israel defense force said they discovered a command center under a hospital that is home to gaza's only pediatric cancer ward. we saw press conferences from the israeli defense force spoke person talking about what they say they found under the hospital. what do we know about what was discovered? >> they set the expectations high from the outset, saying they would prove to the world
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that hamas uses hospitals as a key part of their operation. over about 10 minutes we were shown videos, maps and photographs. this is a hospital that is now being cleared of patients. the israeli forces were saying there is evidence that not just hamas had been using this as a base but hostages had been there. there was a piece of rope next to the chair and they said there was a ventilation shaft that was created and a makeshift toilet, and these were signs people were held there. there was a video that appeared to show curtains and there were no windows. the suggestion was thisas somewhere hamas could have been filming and this obscured the true location of this place.
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the bbc has no way of verifying what was displayed but this is what the israeli defense forces have been putting forward. >> this comes as there are more calls for the fighting to slow particularly because the situation in the hospitals are dire. how are the hospitals operating? >> it is difficult to get a sense of what is happening from the al shifa hospital, the biggest hospital, because communications are difficult. we have been able to get snippets of information. they have come from international charities and crucially from doctors that are still in the medical complex. there is no food, no electricity, no water. they say at the entrance to the hospital, bodies have piled up and there are injured people in the hospital that can't be read
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-- retrieved. rescuers are scared to go out because they think they will be shot. it is worth pointing out israel says it hasn't fired on the hospital, it doesn't targeting civilians, but israel claims underneath the al shifa hospital is a big hamas bunker, center they set up. this is why the israelis say they are focusing attention on this but it is a dire situation in the hospitals. it has been the fate of more than 30 babies that has taken people's attention. the latest we have heard is that sadly, it seems seven babies have died after the neonatal intensive care unit lost power. there was one person in the hospital told the bbc that today, he saw the bodies of seven babies. >> thank you for the update. the hamas run health ministry
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says over 11,000 people have been killed in gaza since the start of the conflict. it says more than 4500 of them were children. israel began the strikes after the hamas attacks in october where about 1200 people were killed and over 200 taken hostage. as fighting continues, so do diplomaticfforts to find a resolution. we have a special report from our international editor looking at what could happen next. >> beds were full when he was brought in wounded. gaza's medics have tomprovise. a photo of premature babies at a hospital, swaddled to stay alive after incubators stopped working when the power ran out. all come aboard in the cruelty of war. in other words it would be time for a cease-fire. and back to the same uneasy status quo until the next explosion.
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news teams can't cross into gaza so they come here, the nearest is really town, to -- the nearest israeli town, to look in. who will be in charge the day after? israeli occupiers? an international force? palestinians? if so, which palestinians? this time it is different. the cost in lives from the hamas attacks to israel's response has thrust the conflict into unknown territory. with israel on the attack, prime minister netanyahu rejected america's day after plan. the u.s. wants the palestinian authority rivals to hamas, to run gaza after the fighting and a palestinian state alongside israel. netanyahu opposes palestinian independence and wants israel to control security. once the israeli spy chief, he says that is why the prime
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minister snubbed their more important ally. >> secondly, it will not be able to leave the gaza strip unless all the abductees are back in a peaceful situation, and we warn -- we win the war against hamas. what does it mean to win? i would define it as the collapse of hamas as a body, as an organization. losing its chain of command. >> israelis are united behind their army but not their prime minister. these demonstrators outside his office in jerusalem believe he is pandering to the hard-line
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jewish nationalists who keep him in power. another question for israelis is the future of netanyahu. he was a divisive figure before the attacks in october and since then a lot of israelis blame him for the security and intelligence and military errors that allowed hamas to attack with devastating consequences. there is anger that after hamas killed and abducted so many mostly israeli civilians, military and intelligence chiefs accepted their share of the blame and the prime minister did not. pressure is growing for a cease-fire in exchange for hostages. >> what is fighting hamas? of course the hamas needs to be taken down. but the question of how to do it is also significant. before i want to kill one single terrible wrist, i want every one of these people home.
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i want the 10 month old home. i want the 86-year-old home. i want that more than i want dead terrorists. once they are home we can finish the job. >>he pain and hatred unleashed since october might overwhelm all those who believe in peace, not permanent war. almost every day in the west bank they bury more palestinians killed in israeli raids. this side of the occupied territories is becoming the next battleground. the only answer, western leaders say, is to revive the two state solution, independent palestine alongside israel. a failed idea that survives only as a slogan. an advisor to the palestinian president has heard it all before. >> i think it is empty, meaningless if it continues to be this way. if you want to do things, do not just walk, do not just talk.
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you need to walk and you need to implement things. if we continue this sloganeering without results we are getting nowhere. >> when the war started, joe biden warned israel not to be blinded by rage as america was after the 9/11 attacks after -- by al qaeda. israel's tactics are alarming americans. they reiterate support for israel but say too many palestinians have been killed by the war machine they helped israel build. inside gaza, israeli military censors say we can't show the faces of soldiers. senior western diplomats told the bbc that ending the war and dealing with the aftermath would be difficult and messy. the wall between jerusalem and the west bank is a monument to the death of the last peace process. so what do we know?
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events since the attack of octor 7 have shown this conflict is not something israel can manage and the rest of the world can ignore. there is also the history of a century of conflict between arabs and jews for control of this land and that shows there is no military solution. if the current bloodshed doesn't lead to a new and serious attempt to make peace, there will be more wars for more generations. but war hardens hearts. in gaza today, thousands more palestinians fled the israeli offensive. >> we want to talk about a grassroots effort towards peace. with me here are two leaders standing together, movement mobilizing jewish and palestinian citizens towards peace and equality.
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you are visiting washington to talk to policymakers and groups on the ground. let's talk with one step back. how did this group come about? >> standing together was built under the notion that the status quo is not working. we need a new story, a new political protagonist that understands that all of us have the interests in ending the occupation and in real peace and equality for jews and palestinians in our homeland. we do that through organizing people on the ground and building a new political narrative. through organizing and mobilizing people around social justice and anti-occupation peace efforts. >> in the past few weeks you have brought people together precisely under this message. >> every three days we have rallies in different cities. could be a palestinian or jewish city. citizens are coming to those rallies, participating in
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activities of solidarity and resisting the status quo, demanding and israeli-palestinian peace and it is reassuring to see we can create a sense of hope in this very terrible reality, and second, that we can hold, we can do something rare, hold the pain of both people, palestinian and jewish people. >> how do you do that? this is a time of such pain. what does that piece look like in your perspective? >> it looks like as long as we are continuing with the status quo, the reality of war millions of palestinians living on land without fear -- without freedom, we have a problem because it is not maintainable, it is not manageable and we need to go in a different direction. the direction we are pointing at is a direction in which every person lives freely on the land. where we understand the basic fact about this reality is,
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there are millions of palestinians living on this land and they aren't going anywhere and there are millions of jewish people on the same land and they aren't going anywhere. if we understand it is a shared homeland for all of us, we can base the solution on that. >> there are both is really is and palestinians -- israelis and palestinians who say we saw a horrific attack, we have seen the bombing campaign in gaza were more than 10,000 have died. how can you call for peace? what is your answer? >> our answer is that we are exactly at a junction where we really need to decide. we are seeing calls for palestinian people from our leaders, we are seeing a reality where we have ministers and politicians who are calling for the annihilation of palestinians and the same thing from palestinian leaders like hamas and the horrific attack against israelis.
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it is not manageable. it is very hard to navigate and contain the experiences of both. i think in many ways, that is our advantage, our vantage point. there are jewish and palestinians who are experiencing the duality of the experience as citizens, and also as palestinians. >> are people ready to hear that message at a time when it is so deeply polarized and split? >> listen. we are not here to entertain people's feelings. we acknowledge the fear, even the feelings of revenge. we understand the attack of hamas was a terrible thing we are suffering ourselves, but to whomever calls us traders, we would say our message and our struggle is the most patriotic thing you can do at this moment and it is to fight for peace and partnership and understand that
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there is only one solution to achieve security, not out of solidarity to the palestinians but to me as a jewish citizen, it is to achieve israeli -palestinian peace as a thing that will guarantee a safe life. >> this isn't the naive thing to say, peace. it is a necessity. there is no other way. we understand that and we are at a place where we deeply understand that this status quo of retaliation and maintaining and managing the conflict by the israeli government is not sustainable. >> how do you convince people of that? >> i think the first thing you need to do is acknowledge the pain. a lot of people especially here, within the american and global discourse, we are seeing people arguing with the emotional state and the righteousness of each side, which has created this polarization. i think as jewish and
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palestinians who work together in our cities, in our workplaces, we are able to understand the emotional state without having to justify or understand the context of that emotional ate. >> one more question to you, you will be meeting with lawmakers in d.c. tomorrow. what is your message to them? >> we are seeing with great concern the polarized discussion in the u.s., in campuses come on the hill and we are coming to those people, even lawmakers in your country, with a simple message. if sally is a palestinian and me , as a jewish citizen, if we can hold the pain of both people and understand both people are losing from this reality, and only both people will win from a different reality, only then can we work towards solutions. it doesn't help when it is polarizing.
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you have to stand with israel or palestine -- stand with both people on the ground. >> thank you for joining us in the studio and sharing your perspective today. we will move on to other news now. former prime minister -- british prime minister david cameron is becoming britain's new foreign secretary. his appointment as the top diplomat came as rishi sunak reshuffled his government amid sinking poll numbers and internal party strife. it is just over a year before the prime minister has to hold a general election. new ministers traditionally parade up downing street, giving reporters a glimpse of who is in or out. they have been surprise appearances in the past but few have elicited this sort of reaction. >> it has been another extraordinary day in british politics. we have had a few over the last seven years but this one is a dooz. i guess i should start at the
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beginning to unpick it all. it starts with swallow brethren -- it starts with one of the most controversial secretaries britain has had, a right-wing populist tough line on immigration, recently described pro-palestinian demonstrations in london as hate marches but clearly, rishi sunak takes the view that she is in danger of becoming an unpopular populist. so she is gone. the real headline grabber is bringing back davi cameron. absolutely extraordinary. everyone is surprised. this is a place where normally everything leaks. nobody is ever surprised by anything here. they were this time. why has it happened? one view would be rishi sunak, it is an act of desperation that conservatives are so far behind in the opinion polls that it was worth giving this a try, worth
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doing a bold headline grabbing move. downing street i think would say the other reasons for bringing him back are that he brings experience, contact and i think mr. sunak hopes by bringing back david cameron, that sends the message that all of the drum of the conservatives had over briggs at, we are over them now because rishi sunak, i am a brexiteer but david cameron was in favor of remain. i think it may be about shifting the image of the conservative party if not the substance, away from the right, back to the center where david cameron used to be. i don't think it will change foreign policy much, by the way. will it work? a lot of conservatives on the right of the party are like, why are we bringing back this guy? he was a loser and he backed remain. the opinion polls suggest david cameron is not massively popular with ordinary voters.
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it is a risky move to put it mildly. talking of the polls, which i guess is the best place to conclude, overall, the opinion polls suggest conservatives are in a deep, deep hole and short of something like a miraculous upturn in the economy or the main opposition labor party imploding, they are going to get a hammering out the next election due sometime between now and january 2025. that is why people might say bringing back david cameron or reshuffling more generally, it is a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic in terms of british politics. >> in the u.s. the supreme court announced its first code of ethics on monday after sustained criticism over undisclosed gifts and trips to some justices. lower courts in the u.s. are bound by an ethics code but the top court has never been required to abide by those rules because of its constitutional
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status. a statement by the justices didn't say how the code would be enforced. almost a 1000 earthquakes rattled the southwestern peninsula of iceland since sunday night, shaking houses and prompting hundreds of evacuations. the tremors are concentrated around the volcano, indicating an eruption may happen. the impact may depend on where an underground magma river reaches the surface. a town has been evacuated. authorities fear a possible repeat of the disruption caused in 2010 when a volcano caused the cancellation of 50,000 flights. >> we are in the southwest of iceland. this road leads to the famous blue lagoon spock, which has been closed and the town of grindavik has been evacuated.
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there are a couple reasons as to why this is causing concern. the number one, the amount of magma underground and the proximity of this activity to the town. they won't be allowed to return tonight. >> have appeared in roads and officials say they are monitoring the situation. seismic activity has decreased but there are real fears there could be disruptive lava flows. nobody knows what is going to happen but iceland is bracing itself. >> kenya is attempting to plant 100 million trees today as part of the country's new national effort to combat climate change. monday was declared a national holiday in kenya to kickstart an ambitious plan to plant over 15 billion trees within the next
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decade. the government made about 150 million free seedlings available to plant in designated areas. each kenyan is encouraged to plant at least two seedlings. the environment minister hopes 500 million trees will be planted by the end of december. you can find more on the day's on our website, bbc.com/news. thanks for watching world news narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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