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washington and this is bbc world news america. president biden announces a proposal to end the israel-hamas war urging both parties to accept. donald trump hits back railing against the u.s. justice system. further russian attack as the u.s. allows ukraine to use u.s. weapons and limited strikes on russian territory. hello, welcome to world news america. i am caitriona perry. joe biden is urging leaders of israel and hamas to accept an israeli cease-fire proposal, saying that it's time for this war to end. in a speech on friday he set out a roadmap for peace broken into three phases, including a permanent cease-fire, with the withdrawal of israeli troops
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from gaza, the return of hostages held by hamas, the rebuilding of gaza. the u.s. has been working to negotiate an end to the war in which more than 36,000 people in gaza have been killed according to the hamas health ministry. an attack by hamas and palestinian armed groups in israel on armed -- on october 7. he called on the group to accept it well urging israeli leaders to stand behind the proposal. with the u.s. president says is a decisive moment. pres. biden: i know that there are those in israel who won't agree with this plan. they will call for the war to continue indefinitely. some are even in the government coalition. they have made it clear, they want to occupy gaza. they want to keep fighting for years. the hostages are not a priority to them. well, i have urged leadership to stand behind this deal despite whatever pressure comes.
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caitriona: after president biden's beach, prime minister netanyahu's office said that he authorize negotiators to present a gaza truce deal but added that this war will not end until all of its aims are achieved including the return of of that these and the elimination of hamas military and capabilities. hamas released a statement saying that a few positives included in the speech. this comes as the top u.s. congressional leaders have formally invited mr. netanyahu to address a joint meeting of congress. let's talk about all of this now. we are joined by the former u.s. ambassador, david satterfield, who until recently was president biden' special envoy for middle east humanitarian issues leading the effort to address the humanitarian crisis in gaza. think you for joining us. this is a significant move by president biden calling for this cease-fire, laying out the proposal in this way.
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is it the moment that the president says it is one piece is within grasp? >> it is a critical moment. the military capacity of hamas is a result of israel's military actions. to repeat the events of october 7 has been eliminated. it is essential now that the work come to a close. come to a close in a manner which produces the release of all of the hostages, those remaining alive and the remains of those who have passed. that the ability to reconstruct and establish a gaza under a different type of governance than that of hamas be launched. this is going to be a very difficult effort. it is complex. it will require support from the entire international community, but it has to start. the terms under which such a start could begin the president laid out. caitriona: what do you think are the potential sticking points in
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led the president laid out. he called on negotiators who have the power to make adjustments as needed. >> the first requirement is of course that hamas agreed to the deal. many of the elements contained in what the president outlined our positions that have already been expressed by hamas receiving negotiations that they have withdrawn from. if hamas can accept the phase i proposal, then the opportunity presents itself, as the president described, to go into phase two, the illumination of hostilities and return of hostages. there are different conditions. the different conditions under which this has to be achieved has to be outlined. understandings on how it is that an end state is to be created in which the opportunity for the stabilization of gaza and reconstruction of gaza but not under hamas governance can take place. all of that will have to be worked out. but it can be done.
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hamas has the responsibility to accept this as the premise for the sake of palestinians, for the broader sake of the region, certainly for that of israel. it needs to be undertaken. caitriona: do you expect to see that sense of urgency coming from the negotiators working on the humanitarian side of things? there is not a moment to spare for people in gaza who are in that dreadful situation at the moment. >> the humanitarian situation in gaza absolutely needs to be immediately addressed. it needs to be addressed in ways that can only be accomplished during a cease-fire. we made that clear for many months now. the cease-fire is important. it is important that it comes as rapidly as possible. i turn this back to the question that the president raised. if hamas wishes to see, for the
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sake of the people of gaza, their needs met, this situation that the president described his hellish -- as hellish, it is incumbent on hamas to accept this. caitriona: if you were to put a timeframe on when the six weeks of phase i could begin, what would you estimate? >> it has to happen as soon as possible. our negotiations, israel's negotiations have always been focused on trying to achieve this cease-fire and the release of hostages as quickly as possible. it is hamas that has refused to accept the terms under which such a thing could happen. caitriona: this proposal allows for 600 aid trucks per day within the phase i, first six week period. that is far in excess of what we are seeing in the last number of weeks. it is not at the pre-october 7 ovals either. -- levels either. what difference do you see that
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figure making? >> it indicates that with the cease-fire, with a completely permissive environment, not only for the entry of goods into gaza but distribution within gaza, north and south to all of those in need, a much greater capacity as possible. look at what has been accomplished. as a result of our leadership over the course of the last months, you have two crossings into the north. so-called gate 96. expanded capacity. all of these land crossings. added to that are the maritime charter which we hope to have in operation in the coming week again. all of this provides the capacity to deliver aid at the scale the president named. remember, as of the beginning of may we were seeing almost 500 trucks per day, commercial plus humanitarian, entering gaza.
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the target of 600 is not unreasonable by any means. caitriona: briefly, ambassador, the speaker of the house has issued an invitation to prime minister netanyahu to address congress.no date is set . do you expect him to come? >> it is an issue you need to address with netanyahu and the government of israel. caitriona: ambassador satterfield, thank you for joining us on bbc news. donald trump is now the first-ever u.s. president to have been convicted of a crime after a jury in new york found him guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to conceal hush-money payments to adult film star stormy daniels. mr. trump's attorney say that they will appeal the verdict. on friday the former president repeated his claim that he is the victim of a political witch hunt. mr. trump: it was a rigged trial. we wanted a venue change where we could have a fair trial. we didn't get it. we wanted a judge change. we wanted a judge that wasn't
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conflicted. obviously he didn't do that. nobody has ever seen anything like it. caitriona: many people may be wondering what exactly will happen next. we have some answers to some of those most pressing questions. first, can donald trump still run for president as a convicted felon? yes. there are no rules blocking u.s. citizens with criminal records from running for the nation's highest office. what sentence could he face? it's possible donald trump could go to prison and could technically serve his presidency from jail, but it is unlikely he will serve times behind bars. he is facing the lowest level felony charges in new york state for a nonviolent crime. as a first-time offender he may receive a lesser punishment, like a fine. could donald trump pardon himself? no. presidents can only issue pardons for those who have committed federal offenses. his case was a new york state matter. it would be out of his reach if
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he is elected again. let's go to new york and speak to our correspondent. john, you were in trump tower. how was the former president? he is pledging to press on with his appeal and campaign. john: it was a sometimes rambling speech. as so often with mr. trump, one that displayed a freewheeling, fast and loose relationship with facts whilst hammering home a central message of personal grievance.mainly that the seismic verdicts delivered in the courtroom in lower town were nothing short of a white house orchestrated block to undermine his campaign. the danger for america is the constant undermining of the integrity of the justice system. his first comments on the verdict call that out himself. there is something else i
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noticed today. that was a sense that mr. trump was sometimes more weary than angry. might that be a sign that the weeks in the courtroom have taken their toll? a sign that the verdicts were getting to him? might it be, as some people will wonder, be assigned that there is political advantage in mr. trump a training himself as something of a victim? he said himself in his speech today that in a few hours since the verdict was delivered his campaign has raised almost 40 million u.s. dollars in funds. caitriona: thank you. the jury verdict marks an unprecedented moment in u.s. history and puts the presidential election season into uncharted territory. so far opinion polls show that it hasn't move the needle much for voters. the poll today showing president biden leading trump by a marginal 2% according to a
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national reuters poll carried out hours after donald trump's conviction. 41% of registered voters say that they would vote for joe biden. 39% are in favor of donald trump. the rest of the voters are undecided with 20% leaning towards third party options. let's talk about all of this. joined by the former u.s. congressman and chief of staff to donald trump, mick mulvaney. you know donald trump on a personal level. how do you think that he will be affected being a convicted felon? >> thank you for having me. my guess is, an educated guess, he is extraordinarily angry. no one wants to be convicted of a crime. it is bad, as we used to say in the white house, for his brand. as was being impeached a couple of times. he is not happy about that. i don't agree with the correspondent that he is weary. this is the type of thing that
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energizes him. my guess is what you will see is an invigorated campaign. he will take the message of victimization on the road in a way that he was going to do anyway. certainly, he will be more fired up about it. the message is simple. look what they're doing to me. i am rich, famous, and white. if they can do it to me, they can do it to you. that has been a winning message for him since the first charges came down. my guess is, you will see that amped up considerably now that the convictions have been handed down. caitriona: he is awaiting sentence on july 11. he has pledged to launch an appeal when the sentence has been handed down. will that impact how he carries on with his campaign notwithstanding what you are saying about the energy it will give him? >> i don't think so. other than the time, energy, and money it will take. we knew that these things were hanging over donald trump.
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four criminal charges. one in new york, one in georgia, two federal charges. we knew that those were hanging over donald trump for several months now. that won't change because of the conviction. it may change the minds of some voters. some simply can't bring themselves to vote for a convicted felon. but he may have picked up some votes as indicated by the huge fundraising overnight results if those turn out to be accurate. i don't think that you will see a dramatic change. one way or the other there is not that much difference other than the conviction versus what we had 24 hours ago. caitriona: if we take a step back from donald trump himself, you are a proud republican and proud american. do you want your party to have a convicted felon at the top of the ticket, a convicted felon as your country's president? >> i would prefer that. i would prefer the charges never to have been brought in the first case. the previous elected district attorney for manhattan chose not to bring the charges under the same facts, be it federal
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government through the elections commission chose not to bring charges for campaign violations, and the southern district of new york federal courts chose not to bring actions against president trump under the same facts and circumstances. the da ran, a democrat elected under our system, that if you elect me i will get donald trump . he didn't do that right away. several members of his staff quit. i perceive this as a political event. i perceive it to be a political witch hunt. i would prefer not to have a convicted felon at the top of my ticket, but i would prefer not to have these charges brought against someone in what would appear to be a political attack. caitriona: we are aware of that phrase. do we think that the republican party should consider removing donald trump or anyone to make a move against him at the convention in july? >> you are not going to see that. my guess is when you see the data come out over the next
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three to four days, donald trump will either have stayed where he is, treaded water on his polling, or will have gone up. the interesting thing to watch will be the money. we heard the overnight fundraising totals are in excess of $30 million, an ex sounding amount in 24 hour period. is it previous donors giving again or giving more? that would be good. or is it new donors? people who haven't given in the past but identify him as a victim and want to come to his defense and are voicing protest by giving him money for the first time? if that is what happened over the last 24 hours, that is a huge swing towards his favor. the data will tell us a great deal of how the public perceives the last 24 hours. caitriona: we will wait for those statistics. mick mulvaney, former congressman and chief of staff to donald trump during his first presidency. thank you for joining us on bbc news.
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as the nato foreign ministers convene in prague to bolster support for ukraine, secretary of state antony blinken confirms reports that washington is allowing ukraine to use u.s. weapons to strike targets inside russia on a limited scale. u.s. officials told the bbc that the directive is meant for counter fire purposes to help ukraine repel russia's assault in a northeast city. it came under deadly missile attacks hours before the nato conference began. this report is sent from ukraine. >> this is what ukraine has been so desperate to stop, an onslaught along the northeastern border. russia has been able to bombard the city with impunity, launching attacks from russian soil and seizing ground. overnight it struck an apartment block in the capital. 20 miles from the border. at least six people were killed.
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elayna's husband and mother were inside and are still missing. president zelenskyy has pleaded to be allowed to properly defend his country by using nato weapons to strike russia. washington has finally agreed but with strict limits. ukraine can only target russian positions along the border. >> this is some step forward to that goal which we discussed before. to defend our people, who lived in the villages through the borderline. >> russia is pushing on multiple fronts. earlier, the united states hinted at having changed his mind once president biden could do it again. >> we will continue to do what we have been doing. as necessary adapt and adjust.
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>> since the start of the war, president biden has been weighing out on one hand his support for ukraine and the other the need to stop this escalating into an even bigger conflict between russia and the west. he has been nervous about how moscow with its nuclear weapons would respond to this move. as the situation on the battlefield has changed, so to have mr. biden's calculations. the u.s. has changed the rules of this war. russia, despite its threats, has yet to make its next move. bbc news, kyiv. caitriona: we are joined by the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine who recently served in the donald trump administration. thank you for coming to talk to us again. president zelenskyy has been pleading for some time to be allowed to use the weapons from nato countries. why is that so important to him?
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>> it is important because without that ability to shoot back at the russians, the russians can fire at his troops, ukrainian troops and ukrainian citizens, without being in jeopardy. our weapons in ukrainian hands cannot shoot back at the russians who are shooting at the ukrainians. president zelenskyy is very eager, and very pleased i will tell you, at this change of policy in the united states. other nato nations have followed suit. some nato nations were in front of us and had already given president zelenskyy the authority to use their weapons against the russians in russia. when we made the change, others followed. caitriona: the u.s. permission comes with limitations. it is not a carte blanche. what immediate impact you expect to see? >> the russians stopped as they try to move towards the city. i think they already have been stopped. this will ensure that they do not have the resources,
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capabilities, by amassing just on the other side of the line in the russian territory. now the ukrainians can go after those russian troops and russian equipment and fuel and ammunition. i believe that has stopped the russian attacks. caitriona: what will have been the calculations or conversations within the state department at the u.s. administration to take this move? >> there has been a long conversation in the government. secretary blinken, when he was in kyiv a week ago, came away convinced of the importance of allowing the ukrainians to shoot back at the russians if they get fired on. he came back and that went to the president. the president agreed. as you pointed out, this is one of the conversations and
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decisions that gradually raised the threshold on how we can provide assistance to the ukrainians. caitriona: if there is the success that you have described and a pushback against russia, do you expect to see those limitations lifted on how the weapons could be used? or is this the limit to which the u.s. is prepared to go? >> i don't think this is the limit to which the u.s. is prepared to go. all of the decision so far have been to increase the abilities of the ukrainians to use weapons. increase the weapons that we provide to the ukrainians. this has been an ever increasing willingness to provide these kinds of capabilities. caitriona: do you expect any response to come from president putin? >> no. president putin over and over has said don't do this or else you will regret it and nothing has happened. i think that we have learned -- caitriona: so far.
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could there be something more strategic going on? >> that means attacks on nato members. president putin knows that that is the end of him if he were to attack nato. he is not going to do that. i think it works, and our deterrent is keeping him from doing something he would regret. caitriona: this is not that we will speak about this i'm sure, but for the moment bill taylor, thank you for joining us. before we go, a 12-year-old boy has won the national u.s. spelling bee by correctly spelling 29 words in 90 seconds. he was nine words better than the runner-up who correctly spelled a string of unusual words to take home a $50,000 prize. [quickly spelling words]
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caitriona: you can practice those around your dinner table later on and see how you get on. as always, you can find about the days news on our website, bbc.com/news. we have live pages running. you can see what we are working on at any time by checking the bbc news profiles on your favorite social media platforms is it for the moment. i am caitriona perry. from the team, thank you for watching bbc world news america. take care. bye-bye. announcer: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... financial services firm, raymond james.
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