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thank you. amna: welcome to the "newshour," in one of the most anticipated rulings of the year, the supreme court declared that former president trump is immune from criminal prosecution for any so-called of official acts but not unofficial once taken as a candidate. it was split and will delay trump's federal subversion trial until after the november election. the former president cheered the decision. to discuss this historic ruling and how it reshapes presidential ruling, i'm joined by supreme court analysts. start us off here, this was a ruling that so many had been waiting for. chief justice roberts who wrote the opinion tore the majority. what is the essence of that

ruling? >> the chief justice said very basically that certain core presidential powers are absolutely immune from prosecution and those powers would include things like the pardon power, the recognition of foreign nations, the appointment of foreign ambassadors, for other official acts, the court said there is a presumption of immunity and as you know from criminal law, the presumption of innocence, presumptions can be re rebutted and the court said that the prosecution would have to show that the application of criminal law here to an official act did not interfere with the execution of the branch. mr. trum did not get what he asked for but an awful lot of the the chief justice said not all acts of the president are

official acts, there are unofficial acts. and for those, the majority sent it back to the trial court in mr. trump's case and future cases for judges to sort out in a fact-intensive review what is official and unofficial. here we have in his own words the chief justice said, the president may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for his official acts. this opinion is undergirarded by concerns for concerns of separation of powers and what the chief justice said what the framers' desire and vision of an energetic and independent executive. amna: this was a clear split

along ideological lines. what did the dissent say? >> she pointed out that there was nothing in the text, history or supreme court precedent that envisioned, applied, recognized the kind of immunity that the supreme court, majority was endorsing today. she wrote a very impassioned dissent, partially a summary from the bench. it was her most impassioned dissent. there was nothing for her the grant of immunity a the criminal justice system we have would work just fine for the prosecution of a president. she said here in her own words, when he uses his official powers in any way under the majority's reasoning he will be isolated

from criminal prosecution, orders that may be sale team 6 to assassinate a political rival, immune. organize a military coup, immune. muslim meun. immune, immune. >> william, help us understand, the immunity claim was brought by donald trump for the federal charges he is facing. now that we have this ruling, what does it mean? >> it means that it is all but impossible for a special counsel jack smith to bring this case to trial before the november election. the court in its ruling today sliced off one part of his indictment and that was the charges that smith had brought that donald trump in the aftermath of the election tried to get his justice department to basically affirm his bogus

claims that there were widespread fraud. that is carved out. everything else that has to be determined the judge here in d.c. has to d.c. what is an official act and what is not an official act. that is pretrial motions and hearings and take up a lot of time before you can begin a trial that itself was not going to be a short trial. there are five months from an election and no way it will happen in time. amna: it now applies to president biden and future president. what does it mean tore the scope of presidential powers going forward? >> this was something picked up in the dissent. justice soto mayor that the majority left this shield for any president to pick up if that president wanted to act criminally while in office, they

have this cloak of immunity and veil. we talked to a scotus supreme court scholar at georgetown university and he said that this ruling quite significantly tilts power away from congress towards the president, and also said this -- >> most importantly it tilts the power away from we the people and we have become left only to the impeachment process and all of the works for that for accountability by misdeeds by presidents, a process that is weak enough on its own and hard to imagine being effective in a late second term of a presidency as we saw it ineffective in president trump first presidency. >> they would be writing a rule for the ages and absolutely

true. this applies decades forward and a lot more power has been given to the president of the united states and that will be that way for decades to come. amna: there were other rulings that came out of the supreme court today, one that dealt with state laws governing social media companies and moderating content. how did the court handle those cases coming out of florida and texas? >> the social media platforms were sensorring conservative thought. they decided that lower courts did not apply the proper first amendment analysis so they sent the case is to the two federal circuit courts of appeal to do just that. >> thank you so much to you both to help us understand it all. >> always a pleasure.

>> "newshour" west, we have an update, president biden spoke from the white house this evening about the supreme court's ruling. he he assailed the decision saying trump will be able to scoot the law. >> now the american people have to do what the courts should have been willing to do. they have to render a judgment on president trump's behavior. the american people must decide his assault on american democracy makes him unfit for public office. the american people must decide trump's embrace of violence to preserve his balance of power is acceptable. >> hurricane beryl has made

landful in the eastern caribbean with winds 150 miles per hour and strongest storm to ever form this early in the atlantic hurricane season. the national hurricane center has warped of extremely dangerous and-life then yeting situation. the foaming hours will be vital in determining the storm's impact. >> i want to re-emphasize that the state of emergency remains in place and for your own safety. >> the storm is expected to remain a powerful hurricane as it moves across the caribbean. all of jamaica is under a hurricane watch and other islands may avoid a direct hit. it is expected to hit mexico. most of new mexico is under a flood watch this evening as heavy rainfall continues to threaten much of the state.

100 people had to be rescued over the weekend. the second natural disaster to hit that city in a matter of weeks. it was damaged by wildfires in june and covered in mud and debris. flooding is expected to thras through withins. steve bannon turned himself to begin four-month sentence. the former adviser to president trump told the crowd he was proud to be a political prisoner. he was found guilty for defying a congressional subpoena. republican lawmakers have sued merrick garland. the recorders from special counsel hur's probe in which he said the president has a poor memory. the justice department has provided transkripts but not the

recordings. house judiciary republicans argued that the audio can provide insight into the president's mental state. israel should a potential return of i. d.f. troops. much of the city was destroyed but many palestinians have returned fleeing violence elsewhere. meantime, prime minister netanyahu told cadets that israel has nearly destroyed hamas' military capabilities in gaza. >> i returned yesterday from a tour of the gaza division and i saw great achievements and nearing the end of the elimination phase. there will be a continuation to strike its remnants. >> in northern gaza large tanks were seen in a neighborhood east of gaza city. the israeli army found large

amounts of weapons in its fifth day of operations in that area. a number of new laws took effect on july 1. florida alone has more than 180 measures that kick in today. some laws highlight divisions in america. in california, a new law requires credit card companies to give banks special codes to track gun store purchases to flag suspicious sales to law enforcement. new laws in georgia, iowa, tennessee and wyoming do the opposite banning the use of ban codes. fallout from the presidential debate. oklahoma's top education official on why he is requiring public schools to teach the bible. and a new book chronicles the history of reality tv. >> this is the pbs "newshour" from weta studios in washington

and from the west at arizona state university. >> the weekend did little to settle concerns inside the democratic party after president biden's debate performance. questions about whether the president should step aside have only intensified. >> the debate over the debate continues. >> there are very honest conversations taking place at every level. >> president biden'sal jies -- >> the only democrat who has ever beaten donald trump is joe beaden. >> to defend his place. >> the question this morning is not what is joe biden going to do but the question who has donald trump ever shown up for, other than himself. i'm with joe biden and it's our assignment to make sure he gets over the finish line.

>> but behind closed doors, the party is in panic, with many democrats suggesting that the president should drop out of the race before next month to give the delegates the opportunity to nominate someone else and there are replacement names, josh shapiro of pennsylvania, governor of california and governor of michigan. whitmer called the biden campaign and delivering a stark winning. winning michigan is out of reach in november. democratic voters are split on what mr. biden should do. in a new poll, 55% said the president should keep running but 45% said he should step aside. secretary of state blinken asked how u.s. allies responded.

>> what the world has experienced over 3 1/2 years, not one night, is the kind of leadership he has brought to bear. >> democrats are committed to the fight after hudling with his family yesterday. first lady and son urging him to stay in the debate. his campaign took aim at donald trump's performance and record as president and using his speech in north carolina to make the case for his campaign. >> when you get knocked down, you get back up. >> for more it's time for politics monday with amy and tamara. much of the reporting, much of ours, show strong concern about

president bidden's performance. four days after the debate, where is the conversation? how real is the panic? >> the public statements have come behind president biden. i was talking to the chairman of the state party in wisconsin today and you know, he is closer to the ground. what he said is yes, absolutely, the debate was terrible. his phone was blowing up. the people who have been closing attention and watched the state of the union address or watched his speeches where he was on fire like he was in north carolina. he said most voters who weren't paying attention are seeing debate joe biden on tick tok. the guy they are he running is the guy who showed up on the

someone who stumbles on the steps. amna: do we net know how much of an impact the debate had both on democratic voters who had concerns but also on republican and independent voters many of whom president trump has to win over snr. >> that's right. and really good point. democratic voters have been saying now for months and months and months, one, they do have concerns about his age and they wanted to see an alternative to president biden in the democratic primary and what we are seeing in your piece, the very people who could have provided that, governors or senators decided that they didn't want to challenge the sitting president. and that was the choice they made. and that's why we are here now four months before the election,

there is not going to be a replacement. that replacement conversation has been happening in periods of time before this before the state of the union. we are seeing it now. it is set. unless the president of the united states decides himself that he is stepping down, there is no replacement for him. the delegates are going to choose him as the nominee and the party -- this is the choice in front of them. now what are the polls showing post-debate? we don't have anything up to date right now because i think it's going to be a week or so before we see some of the fallout. i suspect that trump is going to gain a little bit based on everything we have seen the past four days because the reality of this reaction today isn't different than it was before the debate. in order for president biden to be re-elected the election has

to be much about donald trump or even more so about umh trump than biden. and the debate failed and all about biden and that is a problem for the biden campaign. amna: we heard william and marsha talking about the major supreme court decision that president trump do have some kind of immunity and entitled and ends any chances former president trump facing charges, what is your take-away? >> president biden is expected to speak about that later tonight. that decision raises the stakes in the election. that is how the biden campaign sees it. their view and leaning into it as amy said, this election, if this election is about joe

biden, it is a problem, but if it is about former president trump, that is better for biden and running harder than ever and this decision is the latest example they say and raises the stakes because their belief and many voters believe that former trump is a threat to democracy and gives him more power. amna: president biden will speak about that later tonight. amy, as you saw that ruling come down, what were your key takeaways? >> the ruling that we would see kicking it down to the lower courts and what it means is that there will not be any other trials for which donald trump will be sitting. and that is something that we long suspected but now is the

reality. and as tam pointed out, the issue for the trump campaign is making the case that this election is about the economy, is about immigration and not about what the supreme court or other courts may say in the future. amna: i know you have been reporting how former president trump's campaign has been presenting some kind of a platform later this month. why is it important? >> we have been talking about democrats in disarray and what my reporting shows is that republicans are coming behind trump. his top advisers have a plan to cut back the party platform considerably to make it shorter, more streamlined, clearer, more concise and more importantly,

more trump sen trick. and he has pushed forward to win the primary. and they are trying to avoid drama or anything in that platform that gives their adversaries anything to go after him on. so they are going to move the process which has been in front of cameras behind closed doors, not open press. this is a break with tradition. however, it is part -- they believe they are winning, they are winning based on the polls and don't want to mess with that with the platform document that is a vision document for the party. amna: amy bear in on that. this is the party oming behind him and the platform coming behind him. and this is a stark contrast that used to be done at the kon

vengs -- convention. >> looking to get endorsements from donald trump and where the republican party is. i have been thinking of how much where democrats are right now and reminds of where we were at 2016 and questions going into that convention about whether donald trump was going to get the elites and establishment behind him because there were concerns about his elect tability and voters were saying this is who we want. in this case, voters are saying we would like an alternative and establishment is saying this is the person we are sticking with. these conventions are going to be quite fascinating to see what the rank and file take from this and independent or swing voters take away from those two events. i think that is going to be

important. amna: conventions just weeks away. amy and tamara, great to see you both. today, it is closer than it is ever been to be being governed from the far right. the country's most consequential and will have implications across europe and the united states. nick. >> the far right national rally received more than 10 million votes doubled the number it has ever received before. marine le pen celebrated last night. >> it's a form of great emancipation for the people and taking back their freedom and determined to defend themselves

against political powers that have hurt them, weakened them. >> france's parliamentary elections and the new popular front and the party of president macron could adjust their candidates and have the ability to block the far right government. we turn to senior policy fellow at the european council on foreign relations. welcome to the "newshour." why did the national rally do so well? >> it was a foregone conclusion when macron decided to call tore snap -- to call for snap election. the reality is that the national rally has been gaining strength very much over the past two years. mostly because larger part of

france is agreeing on the substance with them and even larger part of france is tired with this government and president macron. >> he will remain the president. if national rallies were able to secure and hold the prime minimumsership, what would be their platform? >> their platform cannot be further than macron. he is a pro-european liberal centrist versus this national rally party that is a nationalistic, protectionist in nation antinato and the platform will be on immigration initiatives on power will certainly clash very soon with

president macron's. >> le pen inherited the national who was an antisemite who was convicted on racist language. is she different? >> they are different in one way. made the decisions 15 years ago that she wanted to dedemonize her party like her regular mainstream radical right party but someone that should be in a position to govern at some point. however, her ideology, the content of her policies, those have not changed and still pushing forward antiimmigration and ant foreign policies and antieuropean and antiamerican.

her platform remained this nationalist radical right platform. >> explain the mechanics what americans might see this could le pen and the national rally be blocked? >> in this election you can win in the first round or you make it to the second round which usually is too adversaries fighting each other sometimes three. if you have three candidates there has been a call for all forces outside of the far right. >> and it's going to be talk of the week and surely have a

strong results. >> one of the topics that american officials are concerned that french support of ukraine and opposition to russia. with the national rally reduce bilateral support for ukraine or weaken some of the west's punishment on russia. >> it is very strong in the french population and a national rally would stay the course for the moment because they know how much president macron cares about it and rest of europe cares about it and might not be the first fight that they fight. and may want to wait to see whether president trump makes it back into the white house and maybe he will be the one imposing a change on ukraine policy to the translick --

translick -- tr transatlantic. and lifting sanctions and eventually maybe even returning to relationships with russia. >> thank you very much. amna: a drone fired from lebanese hezbollah wounded 18 soldiers, one of the highest since hezbollah opened fire on act 8 one day after hamas attacked. and nick joins us. >> more than 60,000 israelis are still evacuated from the border. secretary of state blinken said israel had lost its sovreignty there.

95,000 lebanese are displaced. and tensions are very high as we saw beginning right on the israel-lebanon border. >> the northern israeli town has no residents. only a null built home damaged in a newly built neighborhood abandoned and we use his first name. >> able to destroy the whole house. it hit the foundations, completely destroyed. this happened a month ago. >> once prided its view. that's lebanon beyond the wall. its proximity is the greatest threat. >> after five minutes -- >> video shows meun munitions destroying homes. >> come to this side and go through it one wall and a second

wall. you see the hole. that's from the missile. >> a clock frozen in time. back on october 8, the family who lived here were given minutes to flee not to pick up their laundry still on the line. >> this is a civilian family that because we evacuated them. if they were here, they would have been killed. you duck or you run away. what we demand is hezbollah stops firing at us. >> hezbollah has launched 5,000 rockets into israel killing more than 10 civilians and 15 soldiers and helping to unite wildfires. forests that used to be popular in the summertime are now silenced and scorched. >> right now we are in a war.

>> since october, israeli strikes have killed 350 militants in lebanon. officials have visited hoping to calm tensions to move hezbollah back to the river, an average four to six miles north of the border as the u.n. security council demanded. >> one is to being prevent a hamas-style attack and number two, to get the homeless away from the ant ti tank missiles. >> he and senior military officials say ground operations in southern gaza are beginning to end. israel is expanding enlistment. >> the less troops fighting in gaza. it is ready for the next mission.

>> israel is issuing an explicit threat that cannot be restrained. >> the fire power that the i. d.f. will use is greater than what happened down south. they need to understand that the pictures that they see in gaza is going to be a preview of a feature film. lebanon will not be recognized and go back to the stone age. >> the threat is mutual. iran tweeted should israel embark on aggression and obliterating war will ensue. israel tries to block hezbollah missiles by jamming g.p.s., including ours. >> g.p.s. doesn't work. >> israel has evacuated residents 2 1/2 miles from the

border. i went c.i.a.y the first few months. i was out of place and i couldn't decide on what to do and my brain was de-organized. it was a very difficult time in the first few months. >> last month she graduated from high school and her classmates sang a song, the next chapter for all of them is the military. >> if i get accepted, i will study law and i will enlist as a lawyer to the army. >> the town has a population of 275. one of the residents who was taken hostagology october 7 and

rescued last month in the daytime raid that killed 200 palestinians. last week, he and his daughter returned home to a hero's welcome. homecomings for the rescued or displaced will remain scares. >> do you see an end insight? >> no. >> israel is preparing for war on a border that remains hot and intense. oklahoma top education official requires all public schools to touch the bible and 10 commandments in the fall. >> after weeks louisiana law mandated the display of the 10

commandments in classrooms, oklahoma is now requiring the bible in lesson plans but quote, ensuring they grasp the core values. for more, we are joined by the author, oklahoma state superintendent of public education ryan walters. welcome to the "newshour." let's start right and this is effective immediately, all oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the bible which includes the 10 commandments. it also says immediate and strict compliance is expected. what does compliance mean, because that is wide open for interpretation. it could mean referencing how shakespeare employs scripture in his plays or member rising bible

scriptures. >> we issued this guidance and additional guidance in the upcoming week. what we have standards. we have seen they are not doing that and not talking about in their classrooms the role that the bible played in american history and offering additional guidance that districts will have to comply with that the teaching of our standards that the bible played dating back to preconstitution, the pilgrims all the way up to martin luther king junior and civil rights where he repeatedly quotes the bible. >> your critics charge this is a clear violation not only of parental rights but of the constitution. american you needed had to say.

>> not about teaching religion or inspiration for literature which is all permissible and teach comparative religion but claiming that america is a christian country and this is also about preaching and not teaching. when ryan walters announced the policy he made clear he was requiring teachers to have a bible in every classroom and teach from it. that is not teaching but indoctrination and unconstitutional. >> the bible is not banned in any schools. it is allowed to be taught in oklahoma schools. and yet, your own constitution says the school should be open to all children and free from sectarian control. given the recent decision

against funding a charter school, are you making a political point? >> the left, they can be offended and mad and upset, but they can't rewrite history. we the bible was cited more than any documents in the 1600's political writings and clearly a historical source and bring it back to our schools and continue to battle and we feel and president trump's nominees to the u.s. supreme court if we get sued and challenge we will be victorious because the justice are organizationallists and not what a left wing professor said so we feel confident. >> the constitution itself does not mention god or jesus or christian in its text. but going back to your memo you

say immediate and strict compliance is expected. what do you mean immediate and a teacher has to teach like trained teachers. are you going to have bible classes for teachers. and what if they don't? >> the declaration of independences said the right came from our creator and change in world history and the separation of church and state does not appear in the declaration of independences. you continue to cite people who don't know what they are talking about. we want our kids to see citations and quotations and see directly from individuals that bible impacted their decisions. they can find another job. the same way if a teacher said i

don't want to teach the civil rights movement. we will make sure our kids in oklahoma understand american history and not by left-ring extremists. critics believe like this lead to more division and heat and that could be bullying students. >> that is absurd. we have been clear what our goal. our kids to understand american history. the left has been at war with the bible. it is academically as honestly it is incredible to have an academic course and not include the bible's influence. and our kids need to understand and founders why they found it

and the role it played in american history and number one best selling book in american history. if that doesn't meet the test, i don't know what would patriotic that criteria. >> superintendent of public education in oklahoma ryan walters. thanks for joining the "newshour". amna: reality tv dominates television today. it estimated 80% of adult viewers watch. how did we get here? i spoke the author of a new book which traces the rise of reality television and broader impact on society as part of our arts and culture series. >> this is a bowling bowl.

>> from elaborate cake decorations to a luxury yacht, so-called reality television now captures an endless array of subjects. while it is derided by critics and fans, it is undeniable. >> stop taking pictures of yourself. it has launched a billion dollar dynasty. remade cable tv networks. and arguably reshaped american politics. a new book from emily nussbaum traces the history of this. i sat down with her and asked her why she started thinking about writing this book 20 years ago. >> i was obsessed watching the first season of "big brother" on

video streaming. i was into the real world and what seemed an entirely new genre and i wanted to write a book about this new growth of a hollywood. i started looking into the history and i assumed frankly the way i had at the time that it was a modern phone no, ma'amon and there was a real back history to reality television and that's where this book came from. origin story. >> you traced deep roots and radio shows of the 1920's, 1930. game shows and prank shows. when it moved from radio to tv, how did it change the dynamic? >> late 1940's, the audience

participation shows and created the same moral backlash that tv did. there was outrage about the tackyness. there was a show that people are familiar with which is "candid camera." when you frank somebody on radio, they have anno, ma'amity. on tv, you can see them angry, sad, overwhelmed, giggled. so i would say the biggest change, it was a change for what these kinds of shows met to the audience and being rivetted and sometimes guilty and as though they were colluding with the prank that was happening. >> i was fascinated to learn pbs created a documentary series and

documented the lives of the loud family in california called "american family" back in 1973 and the mom and her son walking around new york. >> i dyed my hair silver and it was energy being wasted. i don't know, it was like being a little mouse and trapped in a box. >> why were moments like that so revolutionary? >> that episode about his relationship with lance who is gay and about the love for him and fears for him and the reason this was startling is because of lance. there had never been an openly gay man on television and this was a scandal and made as a

documentary, but when it came out it was received as reality division. people were scandalized and during the course of pat, asked her husband for a divorce. her divorce and lance's homo sexuality allowed themselves. >> you write in great details about "survivor" and they want to be the last person standing. this moment in the very first season finale watched by 57 million people. >> the winner of the first "survivor" come competition is rich. congratulations, rich.

>> "survivor" is supercharged reality tv, how? >> that finale. i interviewed more than 300 people. one of my favorite interviews is with ramona a member of that cast and left the show early but stuck around on the island and with the camera people and had a description describing people's inner thoughts and the guy ends up winning and accomplished a format that woaive together soap operas, game shows, prank shows in an unbeatable format. reality shows resulted in the creation of the industry. >> what the audience is watching producing and what about the

folks that take part? what is the tradeoff to have their live filmed in this way? >> for the cast and crew members, there is a range of experiences and some experiences being traumatized. but i don't want to simplify it. on a regularly unstripted show, people watch the show. in a reality show there is a collaboration between crew members which are the field producers for the show and cast members. when you see the results and see it as real life and residue of this workplace relationship. >> you do end the book with "the apprentice." and made donald trump a household name. >> the "pren ties did mark -- it

rebranded donald trump and made him president. the point at which the genre it would affect from personal relationships to the government. there are a lot of negative things to say about ""the apprentice"." and it was made by professionals because at that point it was an industry. people knew what they were doing. not like the spaghetti on the wall. it was one of the most successful marketing schemes. they took a raw new product and polished him up and sold him to the world. >> the author is emily nussbaum. thank you for being here.

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