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minister about is how we get there, how we end this wear. >> mr. netanyahu will meet kamala harris, the vice president but also the likely presidential nominee. her position becomes increasingly important. sarah: they are two leaders battling to retain political authority in their respective countries. what will president biden his israeli counterpart, benjamin netanyahu, have to say to each other. next on the israeli prime minister's schedule, a meeting with a woman who wants to be the next president of the united states, kamala harris. we have an exclusive report from the front line in ukraine, where the widespread use of drones is set to change the way wars are fine. a police officer is suspended after footage of a man being kicked and stomped on the head at manchester airport sparks
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protest and appeals for calm. we start in the u.s., where president biden has been meeting benjamin netanyahu at the oval office amid ongoing protests during the israeli prime minister's trip to washington. it is the first meeting between the two since mr. biden visited israel shortly after the hamas attacks on october 7. president biden is expected to put renewed pressure on the israeli prime minister to secure a cease-fire deal in gaza and to free the remaining hostages held by hamas. let's hear what the pair had to say as the meeting beg. pres. biden: welcome back, esther prime minister. we got a lot to talk about. the floor yours. prime min. netanyahu: mr. president, we have known each other for 40 years, and you have known every israeli prime minister for 50 years from golda meir. from a proud jew zionist to a
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crowd irish-american zionist, i want to thank you for 50 years of public service and 50 years of support for the state of israel, and i look forward to discussing with you today and working with you in the months ahead on the great issues before us. pres. biden: i look forward to it as well. sarah: let's go to washington and our correspondent tom bateman. very warm words between the two of them as they started that meeting, but relations have been strained between the u.s., between israel. what will the tone of the conversation be like? tom: well, i think is going to be pretty tricky. this has been the most contentious foreign policy crisis for the united states in recent years. it has weighed on the very end of president biden's presidency and is potentially a legacy issue for him, aside from the ongoing crisis and loss of life and hostages, all of this is brought as well an awful lot at
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stake. we know the cease-fire deal and at the same time trying to release hostages in return for palestinian business held by israel being released -- palestinian hostages held by israel being released, all that will come to sharp focus in this meeting. a few weeks ago all i was hearing from u.s. government officials is it was hamas that was the biggest block to signing off on a deal, that they were being obstructive, failing to engage in the closing part of his. now the moon has changed completely and the tone is that benjamin netanyahu -- the mood has changed completely and the tone is that benjamin netanyahu is the one dragging his feet, and perhaps the closing moments of this is trying to get a tougher deal. that is a message we have heard from some of the hostage families as well. mr. biden is going to push him on that and is going to tell him to sign off on this thing, perhaps to drop some of those more recent demands that he has been making so they can get this
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thing over the line perhaps in the next few weeks, even. remember, there is a very fraud and fractious relationship between these two men personally underpinned by the fact that joe biden is historically extremely pro-israel democrat and has been as president. you heard mr. netanyahu described him as a proud zionist. this relationship has been underpinned by the ongoing military assistance, $3.8 billion worth of weapons going from the u.s. to israel every year. and at the same time, mr. biden has been boxed into a corner because he has been unable to cajole the israeli prime minister into doing virtually anything as asked through the cour of this war, particularly on the issue of humanitarian aid. israel's siege around gaza made it extremely hard for any aid to get an adult, to the point where just to get in at all, to the point where -- hard for any aid to get in at all, to the point
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where the u.s. was pleading with them to do it. all of that comes into the mix. he didn't get a totally enthusiastic welcome when mr. biden sat down there. sarah: tom bateman for the moment in washington, thank you. joining me now is middle east analyst aaron david miller. thank you for joining us on bbc news. interesting analysis from our correspondent in washington tom bateman. when the meeting was a plan, no one could have predicted the political upheaval there would have been in washington in the days leading up to it, and i just wonder whether this changes the dynamic, whether it changes the conversation at all and the power dynamic between president biden and prime minister netanyahu. aaron: physical, thanks for having -- first of all, thanks for having me. prime minister netanyahu's rule is defined by political survival. he has been on trial for bribery in jerusalem court. he is due to testify in december
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of this year unless he can get it postponed. maintaining himself in power is critic lee imported just to his legacy, but to his freedom, because if he loses power he could be faced with conviction or the need to do a plea deal which would force him out of power. the magic number is 64. that's the number of seats in his coalition. you need 60 plus 1 to go. he has been navigating a fine line for months trying to satisfy the american constituency, meet the requirements of his own military, hostage families, in an effort to figure out a way to survive. his primary constituency continues to be his right-wing base, and that is what he did here. he's brought up relations with republicans and will see president trump tomorrow in florida. i think there probably will be a deal in the next several weeks.
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i don't think it will get beyond phase one. that won't just be on mr. netanyahu. that is because hamas and israel's endgames here are probably mutually irreconcilable. the prospect of a deal is high. hamas is under pressure, netanyahu is under pressure. they may -- there may well be a sense of urgency we haven't seen. sarah: you mentioned he will be visiting donald in florida tomorrow, and he is also, we understand, going to be meeting with kamala harris potentially today. is that a different conversation than he has had with the administration of until now because of the position she is now, as the woman that wants to be the next president? aaron: i think that until november, assuming she is elected, that the conversation with netanyahu and the public tone will be more or less what the president's has been, which
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is to avoid sustained public acrimony. she's been very tough in some of her public statement, but i don't know if you noticed the statement that her office issued in response to the pro-palestinian demonstrators protesting mr. nin the -- protesting mr. netanyahu's speech. she came out pretty hard, it was an extremely pro-israeli statement. she is very sensitive as a moderate mainstream democrat to the realities of the downsides of tackling with the prime minister. the republicans are ready to pounce. they have. speaker mike johnson blasted the fact that the vice president wasn't there behind the prime minister for the speech. my view is until november, until she becomes president if that happens, she will more or less follow joe biden's line, and that will probably be trying to avoid a major or sustained break
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with mr. netanyahu. sarah: some of the hostage families have accused the prime minister, prime minister netanyahu, of dragging his heels until november, until there is perhaps a change of administration, or perhaps president trump. do you go along with that theory? aaron: i think buying time for the prime minister, as i mentioned when we first began our conversation, is survival, not those of the hostages, is paramount, his political survival, his freedom. it's that simple. to expect anything other than mr. netanyahu's performance where he in a very moving way brought the hostages here, and yet he's been accused by benny gantz, by the hostage families, yair lapid, of basically dragging his feet.
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israelis estimate out of 116 hostages in gaza, 44 died, either killed on october 7, their bodies brought back to gaza by hamas to trade, where they died in captivity. the urgency here clearly is the redemption of the living and dead hostages, including the americans. and they seem to be taking a backseat, not surprisingly, to mr. netanyahu's political priorities. sarah: aaron david miller, we really appreciate your time. thank you for joining us on bbc ws. around the world and across the u.k., this is bbc news.
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sarah: the police watchdog says it has received a further referral from greater manchester police in relation to a man seen in the video being kicked in the head by a police officer at manchester airport.
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a lawyer for three people involved in the incident says one has been found to have a cyst on the brain. greater manchester police have suspended one officer from all duties. there have been protests over the incident. our u.k. editor ed thomas reports. ed: chaos inside manchester airport. police, some with tasers. watch the male officer. first a kick, then a stamp. the men on the ground in likely was motionless, his mother sitting over him -- the man on the ground in light blue is motionless, his mother sitting over him. men who kicked move to the man on the bench. he looks like he is hit with a taser. blood appears to be coming from this officer's nose. in distress, she is later taken away from the confusion. then later, this happened. we understand these men witnessed the first incident.
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they're approached by different armed officers. one is pepper sprayed, before two were handcuffed and taken away. >> we are headed to rochdale police station -- ed: this video was posted on social media by the solicitor of the brothers involved in the stamping first incident. today he told us the man being seen kicked on the ground had been rushed to hospital. what is the health situation on both brothers? >> one was taken to hospital, cyst on his brain. let's hope he makes a full recovery. the mother is going through some sort of posttraumatic stress disorder, and so are the children. let's hope they are making full and complete recovery. ed: what are the thoughts about the police? >> they are scared of the police. ed: he also said the brother of these two men is a serving greater manchester police
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officer. >> brother and family member and son is a police officer. ed: what does he say about what happened? >> he is scared of going to work because he thinks it might happen to him. ed: what did the brothers want to happen? >> justice. the brothers want justice. this was a joint enterprise criminal offense. they need to be prosecuted. they need to be -- ed: that is what the family wants? >> that's what we want, that's what the family want. they need to be arrested, interviewed under court, charged and taken to a court of law. ed: we are still not clear about the moments before the footage that has been posted on social media. greater manchester police said they were called after reports of an assault and that three of their officers needed hospital treatment, one for a broken nose. one police officer now been suspended. today the prime minister gave
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his thoughts on this incident. prime min. starmer: i understand the public's concern, i've seen it myself there have been i think a suspension of one police officer this morning. ed: this is the mayor of greater manchester today, andy burnham, responding to the footage. mayor burnham: it is not clear cut, i would say, and there are issues for both sides in the situation. that said, and here's where i want to be really clear, it is right that the officer has been suspended. that is the right action. i would ask for calm, because what i can assure people is that the right and proper steps have been taken. ed: today the police watchdog said it was investigating the level of force used by officers and would examine all the circumstances surrounding the incident. ed thos, bbc news, rochester. sarah: to ukraine, where the air
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force says it shot down dozens of russian drones during a second wave of attacks in as many days targeting ports in the southern region of odessa. the latest strikes, made a virtual stalemate in the wider war with russia making limited gains in small pockets in the east. drones have changed the way the war is fought. quentin sommerville and a camera journals have been with one ukrainian drone unit on the front line. quentin: russia's invasion has cast ukraine into darkness. a new, deadly threat from above has thrown its people deep into war's bleak future. hidden in underground command centers in kharkiv, drone teams battle day and night to keep the danger at bay. >> a drone can take one or two kilograms bomb that h the enemy shelter, enemy infantry,
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enemy armored vehicle. quentin: they are cheap and devastatingly precise. the team cons of russian soldier.-- hunts a russian soldier. >> there is no way after a drone hitting. quentin: and another threat, glide bombs allow russian aircraft to attack from beyond the battlefield. literally gliding onto their target. they are turning it to dust. with drone-jamming equipment on the vehicle, he takes us for a closer look. we are going very fast. why is that? >> because of the drones. because of the drones, yes. quentin: it's dangerous here? >> there is a lot of russian drones. a lot of them.
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that is why we are using now our jamming system. quentin: but it doesn't stop all drones, and once out in the open, they are exposed. so we have to move fas this is what drones and glide bombs have done. crossing open ground can be deadly. getting to shelter, moving deep underground is the only protection against these weapons. what kind of mission is this today? surveillance? >> no, it's attack on a probable position of russian army in forest. command center. quentin: drone after drone is sent forward to attack. >> we should go to a safe place. go go go go go. go go go! quentin: we watch in real time, they have a russian vehicle in their sites. >> every day, about 100 enemy
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died because of these drones. only in our front line. quentin: this is a battlefield, a war being transformed by technology. >> detection, one drone, multiple pilots. quentin: unseen t identified above, a russian drone. it is time to head for cover. going far. along these frontlines, ukrainians have gained about 500 meters of territory from the russians. it's not a lot, it's been hard-fought. the commander here says when it comes to drone warfare, the ukrainians have the advantage. but as far as glide bombs are concerned, well, russia has the serious al-burhan.
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but now we can hear -- russia has a serious upperhand. now we can hear drone directly above us. everyone freezes. it's looking for any kind of movement both for its strikes. just before it strikes. -- it is looking for any kind of movement before it strikes for some eventually we get the all-clear. that drone we heard as passed overhead. we need to get out of here fast. drones were barely a factor in this were a year before. now they are everywhere always. >> detection, multiple trends, multiple point -- multiple trends, multiple pilots. quentin: any journey over ground is nerve-racking. a game of chance. but here in closer to the front, russian glide bombs are a greater threat. >> 10-kilograms bomb. russia calls it bogeyman drone.
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quentin: the bogeyman is big enough to take out an armored vehicle or command post. it has to be launched fast before the rusans find their position. we fly manually while keeping watch for question glide bombardments -- russian glide bombardments, and soon they come. >> you can see it in the camera. they are hitting the trenches with soldiers. quentin: what happens in russian -- if russian glide bombs strike the area? ok, let's go. and now russia responds with drones, too. >> move fast, drone is coming back. quentin: on ukraine's battlefield, the rules of war being rewritten, d they
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say soon all war will be fought this way. sarah: that was quentin sommerville and darren conway reporting from the front line in ukraine. joining me is a senior advisor at the center for strategic and international studies. thank you so much for joining us on bbc news. a fascinating look at how war is changing. tell us a little bit more about these drones. is there one particular type, are the lots of different types? why are they bts were effective in this conflict -- being seen as it so effective in this conflict? >> there are a wide variety of drones. some of them are cruise missilessome of them are, because you drones, some of them are led -- some of them are kamikaze drones, some of them are like small aircraft to come and then there are these viewing drones that are flown by particular operator. they become particularly
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important in ukraine because the front lines have stabilized, and these short-range drones, particularly the first-person viewing drones, can be used, they have very short ranges, but the lines are stable, they can get on the other side and they can understand the terrain and they have a profound effect, as we saw in the last report. we have to keep in mind, though, that both sides are developing countermeasures, and those are some of the drones lessh makes effective than they were before. sarah: the technology is part of its appeal in that it is relatively simple, relatively cheap. mark: it is. the first-person viewing drones, those cost a few pounds, a few euros. ukraine says they are going through about 10,000 in a month. have to keep in mind, too, that their effectiveness is limited.
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they carry basically a hand grenade. most missions fail. but sometimes they do succeed. sarah: when our correspondent quentin sommerville talking about this is the future of warfare and it is transforming it by technology, is he right? can you see drones being used elsewhere in the way they are being used in ukraine at the moment? mark: well, drones have become a part of modern warfare, and integral to what militaries do. on the other hand, when we look at ukraine, we still see armored vehicles being used, we still see infantry can we see trench lines, we see artillery. so they've been integrated into warfare. they haven't replaced warfare. sarah: it's really good to talk to you and to get your expertise on an aspect of warfare that, as you say, is becoming more prevalent in the ukraine
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conflict at the moment. thank you for joining us on bb news. there is plenty what a come on -- plenty more to come on "the context." we will bring you more analysis of that meeting between president biden and the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu. and straight after the break, we have all the latest ai news, looking particularly at how ai technology is being used in modern warfare. do stay with us for that. announcer: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... financial services firm, raymond james. announcer: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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