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wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. it's to die for. now you won't miss a thing. this is the way. xfinity internet. made for streaming. amna: good evening. geoff: tonight, donald trump reverses course and agrees to debate vice president harris, who is gaining in the polls.
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a look at the changes in the changing electoral map. amna: nancy pelosi on the chances of victory in the upcoming election. >> we felt confident before would happen the last few weeks, but since this new campaign, members are even more encouraged. geoff: one year after fires devastated parts of hawaii, residents are rebuilding, but still see a long road ahead. ♪ >> major funding has been provided by -- ♪ carnegie corporation of new york. working to reduce political polarization through philanthropic support for education, democracy, and peace.
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more information at carnegie.org. and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. ♪ this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. thank you. amna: welcome to the news hour. a debate has been set between former president trump and vice president harris. abc news says it will host the two candidates in a head to head matchup on september 10. geoff: that news came as the presidential hopefuls and their running mates continued on the campaign trail today, from a
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michigan union hall to the gilded halls of mar-a-lago. donald trump today held his first major campaign event since vice president kamala harris announced her pick of minnesota gov tim walz as her running mate. >> there's never been people as liberal like these two. geoff: for nearly 10 minutes, the former president ticked through a litany of now familiar grievances and unfounded and false claims. taking particular issue with a reporter's question about the harris campaigns crowd sizes. >> i have 10 times, 20 times, 30 times the crowd size. geoff: he compared the crowd size of his ellipse speech on january 6th to that of dr. martin luther king jr's famous i have a dream speech. >> i'm leading by a lot and i'm letting their convention go through. and i am campaigning a lot. i'm doing tremendous amounts of taping here. we have commercials that are at a level. i don't think that anybody's
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ever done before, plus in certain cases i see many of you in the room where i'm speaking to you on phones. i'm speaking to radio. i'm speaking to television. television is coming over here. excuse me, what are we doing right now? she's not doing any news conference. you know why she's not doing it because she can't do a news conference. she doesn't know how to do a news conference. she's not smart enough to do a news conference. geoff: trump, who previously backed out of a presidential debate with vice president harris, today proposed three new dates for debates including one with abc news to which harris already committed. trump today was decidedly less on message than his own running mate jd vance, who took aim at walz' military service. reminiscent of the 2004 republican effort to discredit the war record of then-democratic presidential nominee john kerry. a tactic orchestrated by trump's now campaign adviser, chris lacivita. vance at his campaign event yesterday, used the controversial term stolen valor often used to describe people who've lied outright about serving in the military.
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>> when the united states of america asked me to go to iraq to serve my country. i did it. when tim walz was asked by his country to go to iraq, you know what he did? he dropped out of the army and allowed his unit to go without him. geoff: there is no evidence that walz retired to avoid a wartime deployment, and it's a line of attack that may not work. walz has faced similar attacks from republicans before and during his successful campaigns for congress and governor. >> this guy doesn't know first thing about unity or service. and his running mate just as dangerous and backward as he is geoff: at a united auto workers event in detroit today, harris and walz pushed back on the trump campaign's attacks. >> we believe in our country, we believe in each other, we believe in the collective, not falling for folks trying to divide us, trying to separate us. so, michigan, i ask you, are you ready to make your voices heard? geoff: their michigan event today follows a campaign rally last night outside detroit that
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was moved to an airplane hangar to accommodate a crowd of nearly 15,000 people, according to the harris campaign. >> this election is going to be a fight. we like a good fight. when you know what you stand for, you know what to fight for. we know what we stand for. geoff: as harris emphasized a message of unity, a familiar divide. a small group of protesters chanting what appeared to be a pro-palestinian message interrupting harris' speech. harris spoke with leaders of the uncommitted national movement before her rally, and acknowledged the protesters at first. >> i'm here because we believe in democracy, everyone's voice matters, but i am speaking now. geoff: but her patience ran thin after repeated interruptions. >> y'know what? if you want donald trump to win, then say that. otherwise i am speaking. geoff: as the harris campaign continues its battle ground
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blitz, it's out today with a new ad campaign tailored to latino voters, emphasizing harris' background raised by an immigrant mother. after michigan, harris heads next to make the case to votes in arizona and nevada. as the two newly-cemented tickets continue to make their case to voters, the recent shake-ups in the race have led to a reshuffling of the electoral math to win. the cook political report is out with updated ratings for the presidential race, moving the 3 battleground states of arizona, georgia and nevada from lean republican to toss up. amna: in this new assessment there are now 6 states and 77 electoral votes up for grabs. amy walter is editor-in-chief of the cook political report with amy walter and a member of our news hour family. let's talk about your analysis today. he wrote this, you said things look a lot better for democrats today than they did a few weeks ago, but trump is looking stronger now than he did in
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2020. explain that to us. what are you seeing now in the race and in the polling? amy: if you think about this now from where we were in the pre- july 3 first world, if we think about this as a contest, as a game, the contest was very lopsided against biden. he was behind by a significant number, not just at the national popular vote but in those individual states, those individual battleground states. you can see on the six points in a state like georgia and nevada. just in the time that harris has been in the race, you've seen those numbers move pretty significantly toward harris. a shift in those battleground states which is mirroring what were seeing in the national poll as well. it hasn't turned those states from one set favor trump to ones that now favor harris, it just means that the race is no longer as lopsided in trump's favor as
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it was in late july. that is why we are calling this race a tossup. geoff: we have three months left until the election. what do they need to do to shift the race in their favor? amy: the most support thing to talk about is what has happened in the three weeks since harris got into the contest. when you think about where we were before that, think about republicans as a football team. they had every number on the field. maybe 70% of their members were on the field. now what has happened with harris, the enthusiasm, the energy, where she is campaigning in these battleground states means both teams have everybody on the field. which means it's a battle of inches, not of yards. they are both lined up they are , evenly matched teams.
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there could be a fumble on one side that wins the game to one candidate getting a surge at the end. the battle right now was in the piece that you introduced the show with. it's the battle to define the harris-walz ticket. even the vice president isn't as well known. the one benefit she is getting is that a lot of folks assumed because she is the vice president, she would come in with all the same baggage that biden had. instead, we have seen her favorable number shift 10% more than they were. she was much more tied to opinions of biden than she is today. that is the good news for her. republicans are trying to fill in those gaps. calling her dangerously liberal. they have ads up going after her specifically on things like the
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border. but also police reform and her opinions on some issues where she moved to the left in some cases during the 2020 campaign. the is a check -- dnc is where she gets a chance to tell her story. there are still republicans try to make the case about who she would like. amna: what are the down ballot indications for that? we know democrats are really fighting to hold on in tough states. amy remember when we were : watching this dance. is biden going to stay in or get out. the number of candidates who started to come out, we started -- we saw that number start to ratchet up especially in some of the states where voters knew that a decreased enthusiasm would mean that they would find fewer voters coming
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and turning out. their overall numbers have not changed. what has change i think is that they feel more confident that the voters they know are already for them and will show up. what they were worried about is that the voters who were for the senate candidates were not excited about biden so they might stayed home. geoff: we are seeing the impact of that in some of these battleground states. amy when we were at the : republican national convention and before that you had president biden coming to the state of wisconsin, senator tammy baldwin, for example, democrat there, she did not appear with biden, and in michigan, also did not want -- did not want to appear with biden, they are more than happy to appear with harris now. geoff: there also 435 elections across the country that will
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determine control of the u.s. house of representatives. republicans are hoping to expand their narrow majority. congressman hudson joins us now. thanks for being with us. democrats need to flip four seats to win back control of the house. where did the republicans see the possibility to expand? >> there are 435 members of congress but only 35 who won their seat with 5% or less. so there are very few seats up for grabs if you look at the total map. of those 35, it's been said there's probably about 22, 11 on each side that are really up for grabs. when you look at what's the battlefield, where are we actually out there trying to pick up seats, what are the seats we have to hold, there are very few. having said that, we feel like
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the environment is in our favor. we feel like the quality of candidates we recruited as challengers around the country are very good. we are in a strong position to pick up seats. geoff: the current congress has been one of the least productive in decades. republicans with their narrow majority have been locked in high-profile fights, many over the speaker's gavel. how do you make the case to americans that republicans not only hold the majority but govern effectively? >> i think the american people aren't reall worried about who holds what gavel in washington. they are worried about safety in their neighborhood. there worried about the open border, and inflation. the things they want to buy are too expensive. that is what is on voters minds. they have decided kamala harris and joe biden, tir policies have made them less prosperous and less safe. they trust republicans on these issues.
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as the republican house we passed a number of bills at the senate decided not to take up, but they demonstrate our positions on energy, on the parents bill of rights to give , parents more decision-making in education. measures to bring down inflation. these are the policies we will run on. that's why think we will be successful. geoff: there are more than a dozen republican held seats that biden ran on in how should they run? 2020. aligned with donald trump or so they try to distance themselves? >> i think donald trump will be an asset for all of our candidates. i think donald trump is going to win this election. the issues we are running on our the issues voters care most about. inflation, the border, crime. republicans have the solutions. the policies of the biden-harris administration have been wrong.
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they have put the country on the wrong track. we are running on the issues and the voters trust us on those issues. geoff: a question about money and resources. democrats say they have seen a surge in recent weeks. do republicans have the money they need right now to be competitive? >> we do. we have done a good job of fundraising. we broken a lot of fundraising records. it just so happens democrats have done better. democrats historically have raised more money than republicans. they have some structural advantages that allow them to do that. i don't need to match the democrats dollar for dollar but we do need to continue to raise ur candidates to tell theirhe stories and to connect with the voters. geoff: ballpark how big of a , majority are you expecting in november? >> i will not give you a number.
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i feel very confident that we will pick up some seats. within that cap yacht there are , not many up for grabs. you won't see the huge swings we have seen in the past 20 seats go one way or the other. every single one of these 35 seats is going to be very close. geoff: chair of the national republic will congressional committee, thanks for being with us. stephanie: i'm stephanie sy would news hour with -- west. here are the latest headlines. we begin with the latest on what is now tropical depression debbie. the sub -- slow-moving cyclone return to shore, hating the carolinas today. it is expected to remain inland as it moves up the east coast, where it could dump several inches of rain as far north as
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vermont, this weekend. officials in north carolina said today a seventh person was killed when a tornado hit wilson county, east of raleigh. it tore through this middle school overnight. residents woke up to a scene of destruction. >> you could tell it changed from heavy rain to something else. when we came out we found out that it had damaged the school. but it was so dark because all of the yard lights were out. and you really couldn't tell how badly it was damaged until the sun came up this morning and it's just, it's a mess. stephanie: meantime, neighborhoods in florida like this one in sarasota are still submerged in floodwaters, 3 days after debby drenched the peninsula. thousands of floridians are still without power. federal food officials say a third person has died from a listeria outbreak linked to boar's head deli meats. 43 others have fallen ill. late last month boar's head recalled 7 million pounds of
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deli meats after a liverwurst sample in maryland tested positive for listeria. that included more than 70 products, including liverwurst, ham, and beef salami. consumers should not eat the recalled meats, and should instead discard them or return them to a store. experts also advise people to thoroughly clean and sanitize their refrigerators to prevent contamination. 15 states filed a lawsuit against the biden administration today over a rule that would allow roughly 100,000 immigrants brought to the u.s. illegally as children access to federal health insurance. the states, led by republican attorney generals, argue the rule violates a welfare reform law and encourages illegal immigration. the rule is set to take effect november 1. turning to the middle east, israel has ordered more mass evacuations in the gazan city of khan younis. the idf says it will carry out military operations there soon in response to recent
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palestinian rocket fire. large clouds of smoke rose from the city today following the sound of explosions. that's as thousands of gazans packed up and left. many were not sure where to go. >> the situation is that the army called and warned us, and sent leaflets, so we left the area which was already full of displaced gazans. there are no homes left to stay at. stephanie: to the north two schools were hit today. palestinian medics say the buildings were sheltering civilians, and at least 16 people were killed. israel says hamas fighters were using the schools as command centers. bystanders rushed to the scene of one attack and combed through the rubble. amateur video showed medics carrying children to a nearby hospital. it was a big night on the track at the paris olympics. and spoiler alert, that includes an upset in the men's 200-meter final. team usa's decorated sprinter
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noah lyles finished third, and fell to the ground after crossing the finish line. he was carried away by medics. it was revealed later that he has covid. elsewhere, sydney mclaughlin-levrone defended her gold in the 400-meter hurdle final, beating her own world record in the process. on the men's side, hurdler grant holloway won gold in the 110 meter final. those showings helped the us maintain its lead atop the medal board, with 103 medals overall. and katie ledecky has been selected as a flag bearer for sunday's closing ceremonies. she became the most-decorated us women's olympian of all time in paris, with 14 career medals. she'll be joined by gold medal-winning rower nick mead. and as we find ourselves in the throes of a heated presidential race, we take a moment to mark 50 years since richard nixon became the first, and only, american president to step down. nixon of course had been caught up in the watergate scandal.
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he initially denied any involvement in the 1972 break-in at the democratic national committee headquarters. but ties between his white house and those responsible eventually emerged. congressional hearings followed. nixon himself was implicated in the cover-up attempt. that led to impeachment hearings, and finally his address to the nation on august 8th, 1974. >> therefore, i shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. stephanie: his departure closed a chapter on the scandal, but opened up a new era of cynicism and mistrust of government in america. just a month after leaving office, richard nixon was pardoned by his successor, president gerald ford. still to come on the newshour. where recovery efforts stand one year after hawaii's destructive fires. investigators provide new details about the terror plots that forced taylor swift concerts to be canceled. and what's happened to homeless , parisians during this year's olympics.
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>> this is the "pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington, and in the west, from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. amna: after nearly 40 years of working in the nation's capitol, speaker emerita nancy pelosi has played a central role in some of the most consequential american events of the last two decades, and that is the focus of her new book, the art of power: my story as america's first woman speaker of the house. speaker emerita nancy pelosi, welcome back to the newshour. thank you for being here. nancy pelosi: always a pleasure to be here. amna: so you have said this new book, the art of power, but it's not a memoir, but it does have a number of very personal, very intimate moments in it. it's also just a sweeping collection of big moments through your leadership, through american history.
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9/11, the war in iraq, the 2008 financial crisis. how did you arrive at these moments? what's the common thread? >> well, i actually you said it. well, it's not a memoir, but when i was in the leadership, i these were four areas that i wanted to show our side from the house democratic side where we were on the issue. so i intended to write this book a long time ago. i just had no time. so by the time i wrote it, when i was no longer speaker and had the time to do so, people said, well, you have to write about january 6th and trump, and you have to write about what happened to your husband. and so i have some other things there, but there are other subjects that i will write about ukraine. , i will write about climate, the climate issue and the rest. but that's for another book. amna: you talk about this in the book about male colleagues discouraging you from seeking leadership, saying that there was a pecking order. and you write when the women members spoke out in favor of having a woman in the democratic leadership, the same gentleman said, quote, why don't you just make a list of what you want to do and we'll do it for you? it's
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often said power is not given, that it has to be taken. so how do you do that? nancy pelosi: well, they also said at the time when i was running who said she could run? who said she called me, who said so? and all of this is in this century. this is in the 21st century. well, it was just their old way of thinking. bless their hearts. the fact is, i said to them, i don't want you voting for me because i'm a woman, but i don't want you voting against me because i'm a woman. i just want you to show you well, why i think we can win back the house. the reason i ran is i was 94, 96, 98 to say we kept losing the house. and i said, i know how to win elections. i want to show with policy and the politics how we can serve the people. amna: when it comes to women in positions of power, do you think that america is ready for a female president today in a way
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that maybe many people believe we were not back in 2016? >> well, i think america is ready. i always thought, i mean, i never aspired to be speaker, but then when i wanted to be in the leadership, i thought i'd be number two or number three. then i became the speaker because i won the election and that was it. but i always thought we'd have a woman president before we'd have a woman speaker, because the congress is a very male dominated marble ceiling kind of place to break a marble ceiling. but i think we're very ready, and i think we will. kamala harris is a person of deep faith, of great patriotism, personally, of deep faith and patriotism, so i think from a political, from a personal and from a an official standpoint, she's prepared to lead us. amna: and now she has a new running mate who you know very well from his time in the house as well. what's your assessment of what governor tim walz brings to the ticket in terms of how he
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complements kamala harris? who is he bringing in who might have otherwise been a challenge? >> he complements her very well in that he is patriotic. he's, has a sense of humor. he has a sense of duty. and he he knows the issues. i mean, 12 years in the congress, that's good preparation to be the vice president of the united states. and he's loved, beloved by the members of the of the the democratic members of the house, even someone on the other side. amna: does this harris walls ticket help down ballot? i mean, i should point out. last time you were here was on election night in 2022, and you rightly predicted there would be no red wave. so i have to ask for your prediction for this year too. what do you think happens in the house? do republicans keep their majority? >> no, i don't think so. and thank you for remembering all these. washington, new york. we're saying all the red wave, three to 30 to 40 seats. so they don't even know what they're talking about. so we knew that we had real
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opportunity and we came very close, except we lost five seats in new york, and that's the amount of votes we lost. so this time we'll win them. i have no doubt about it. and it's all of course, we felt confident before what happened the last three weeks. but after that, and since this new campaign, members are even more encouraged. amna: that change in the ticket came after a series of events. one i know that you've been asked about ad nauseum, which was the interview you gave on morning joe, which a show we know the president watches. and you said it was up to president biden to decide if he was going to run. that if turned into a turning point of sorts. and i know you have said that you never intended to even talk about that in the interview, but you did just say in a recent interview to the new yorker that you'd never been impressed with his political operation. and you said they won the house. bravo. but my question was, was this the white house? correct. but this ain't happening is what you said you were worried that a decision had to be made of some kind.
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so is it is it fair to say, even as you were fielding worries from everyone else about the ticket, that you yourself had your own concerns that biden was losing to trump? >> well, i thought that he could beat trump, but there had to be a different approach than what we were seeing recently. god bless him for winning the white house in that. but in this race, in a different set of realities that were out there, that the lack of communicating what he did as president, most one of the most consequential presidents of our time, but as the campaign was unfolding, i thought that justice wasn't being done to him as to how everything was being presented. so it was his decision whether his campaign would change or accelerate the pace or whatever, or there would be a change in the candidate, and that's the course that he chose. amna: you've talked about you've known him for so many years, for decades. you love him. you've said this repeatedly.
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my understanding is you haven't spoken with him since he ended his campaign. is that still correct? >> yes, but that would not have been unusual. that's only three weeks. yeah, we're not talking about that much time. our whole family for three generations. my husband paul and i, our children, our grandchildren all love joe biden. yeah. amna: mr. biden also recently talked about his concern about more political violence. if former president trump does lose this next election, are you worried about that as well? >> of course, this is a president who, as president, a person as president of the united states, instigated an insurrection against the constitution, against the congress, against the capitol, the beacon of democracy to the world to desecrate, to defecate, to disgrace. the people who work there treat them with scorn and the rest of that and danger. so certainly we don't trust him
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to be, responsible in the, in a start transition. with amna: that political violence, of course, landed on your doorstep when your own husband was attacked in your san francisco home. you start the book with that story, and it's clear that it still has such an incredible impact to this day on your family. how how much does that day still loom over you, your work, your family today? >> well, they didn't just land at our doorstep. they came inside of our house. imagine invading the privacy of your home in a very dangerous way. where is nancy? where is nancy? just what they were saying in the capitol on january 6th. coming for me, so it's something that it was horrible for our family. physical damage still to be completely recovered from, but trauma that will be with us for a long time to come. but part of it is also we don't want other people to back away
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from their political or governmental participation because they have fears for their family. this is america. it's a democracy. we exchange ideas. we compete in, ideas. that's what a democracy is about. so so it is you don't anybody to back off any decision to go on. i have tremendous guilt because he was coming for me and my husband paid the price. i'm very political. i take pride in that. amna: you still feel that guilt today? >> oh, sure. as long as my husband is in pain, i feel the guilt. but also just the trauma. amna: madam speaker, you have eric been at the table on some of the most consequential moments in american history. you have broken barriers in your own way. you've now overseen a generational transfer of leadership in the house as well. you've been doing this for almost 40 years and you're running again. >> well, what is to use at the end of this term? amna: what is left to do? what's
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on your list? nancy pelosi: well, first we just have to restart where we are. we have to win the election, and, we make a decision to win. and a decision has been made as to a candidate for president and vice president will be me. we're very proud of that. decision decision to have the resources, the money, to do these things. the most important decision and that is the candidate, and a decision has been made as to the president and vice president. we are very proud of that. now we've decided to put one good day in front of another, to mobilize the message. also, well, so i had my three nos, no waste of time, no underutilized resources, and no regrets the day after the election that we could have done more. some elections are just a few votes. difference in a state makes a difference. i always compare to the olympics
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since we're in the season. gold. silver, bronze. happy to be olympian. like within one second. yeah, within one second. these elections are that close. we have to all do our part, to win. and that's what we intend to do. so that's my purpose for running this time is to be sure to be in place and fortified to do, to help. we want the candidates to be themselves. be themselves, be ready. take pride in who they are. but we have to help them get across the finish line. that's what's important to me right now. make sure that he never stepped foot in the white house again and that we have the house and senate to support our democratic president and vice president. amna: nancy pelosi, thank you so
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much for coming by. it's been a real pleasure speaking with you. nancy pelosi: and my pleasure. thank you for the opportunity. and thank you for talking about the art of power, my book. thank you. ♪ geoff: today marks one year since the deadliest wildfire in modern u.s. history tore through the town of la'haina on the island of maui. the fires killed 102 people, displaced thousands of families, and destroyed a precious place in hawaiian history. even though the state just reached a $4 billion settlement that will help pay for the ongoing cost of rebuilding, as william brangham reports, one year later it's still a very slow process. william: from the air lahaina looks like a ghost town , this once vibrant community by the sea, a place steeped in hawaiian history now a patchwork of empty lots and charred debris
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but on the ground however slow there are signs of progress. >> a lot of folks said they want to come back to west maui. they want to be in west maui. and we took that seriously. william: one year ago today, flames broke out on this island. driven by hurricane force winds. which fed on fields of dry invasive grasses it came on so , fast, and so violently. the main road out of town was choked off. in just hours thousands of structures were consumed. to escape the flames, some people jumped into the ocean but many weren't so lucky. over 100 people lost their lives in that inferno. >> it's been so hard, very hard. never, i think in my life, would i have imagined that we would have something like this. william: left behind are broken hearts and a monumental recovery effort.
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hawaii senator, democrat brian schatz, >> one year later, people's lives are nowhere near back to normal. national headlines may have moved on. but life for survivors has not. they still need help. william: still, officials say they are ahead of schedule. 300,000 tons of fire debris and hazardous materials have been taken off island. the army corps of engineers has cleared almost 1500 burned lots, readying them for rebuilding. fema's bob fenton is coordinating the federal response. >> there's already 40 houses there are in some part of being constructed right now. the majority of those properties have turned, turned back over so the permits can be pulled. so we have done everything we can to ensure that we're returning back to its pre-disaster condition and that it's safe to rebuild. william: but for survivors, like josephine fraser and her two sons, that progress has felt disjointed and very slow >>
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there were times where we had a 24-hour notice that we had to get out of the hotel. william: fraser and her family had to move nine times in as many months after the fire, shuttling from one hotel to another as federal disaster officials struggled to house so many people who'd become homeless in an instant. fema estimates its spent nearly $400 million overall on housing assistance. and fraser is one of the luckier ones. she recently became the first resident in a new modular home community even though its an , hour's drive from lahaina. >> it's awesome to have a roof, somewhere to call home, at least for now, until we go back into lahaina. william: lahaina had a shortage of housing even before the fire. but now, in this remote town on a remote island where labor and materials are in the highest demand the costs of building are even higher. hawaii's governor, democrat josh
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green, says local homes for local people has to be the priority. >> building housing is going to be critical in the second year. we're changing the laws around short-term rentals, hoping to bring as many as 7,000 short-term rentals back to the market for local families on maui. william: there's also lingering questions of how to rebuild. who gets to decide what comes back? how does the city prepare for rising sea-levels? can officials build evacuation routes, so, if there's another fire, people aren't trapped again? kuhio lewis is with the council for native hawaii and advancement. >> when you start to see mass exodus of the people, you start to change the fabric of hawai'i. and that's what's at stake is the future of who hawai'i is as an identity, as a people, as a place. william: that's the struggle the people of lahaina are working through, how to build smartly for the future while honoring their historic past. for the pbs news hour, i'm
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william brangham. ♪ amna: taylor swift's eras tour has been called off in austria, after officials arrested two teenagers accused of plotting a terrorist attack. the concert promoter barracuda music said quote: we have no choice but to cancel the three scheduled shows for everyone's safety. roughly 200,000 people were scheduled to attend the sold-out vienna concerts. for a closer look i'm joined by juliette kayyem, professor at the harvard kennedy school of government and former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. thanks for joining us. the fact that these organizers had to cancel the shows, what does that say to you about how serious and imminent these threats were? >> it says two things, first that not only was it serious, but that this was disrupted likely hours before there could have been extreme violence.
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i think they canceled for two reasons. one is there was an insider threat, one of the two teenagers had some association with one of the sub vendors, may have had credentials that would've allowed him to go in and out. once you have an insider threat, you close the thing down. you have no idea who else could be in the room. the second is the threat appears to have been in the soft outside perimeter rather than inside the concert hall. there's lots of people without tickets who want to hear her and be part of the taylor swift movement. those parts are not protected. i think they were correct, given what we know right now about the insider threat and talk -- targeting the soft areas of the concert security that you would want to shut it down until you
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understood what the threat was. amna: as we mentioned, two people have been arrested. bomb making materials reportedly found in their home. one suspect had a job inside concert operations. what do we know from what authorities have shared so far about what they were trying to do? what was the threat? >> i will put this in terms of the global threat right now. ever since the war in israel has started, everyone has known that a global terror threat has increased. part of that is in response to the war itself. part of it is a radicalization movement inspired by what is going on in gaza and israel. we knew that already is -- exist. almost every area is an elevated threat. the paris olympics understood this. they are at a higher threat level. then you have recruitment efforts by an organization like
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isis, trying to get a high profile event but very difficult to get people to move. 15 or 20 years ago, the tactic was they used to want people to come fight in a war. there is no more war like that anymore. they are trying to recruit young men. isolated, may be getting radicalized online. and they radicalize them in a very short time and telling them, do something catastrophic in your country. you don't have to move across borders and risk getting caught. that is what we know right now. they will continue for the foreseeable future targeting these high profile events to make a statement and show their relevance in an environment that has changed in the last couple of years. amna: when you say they were radicalized, what do we know about the links between these groups?
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and these teenagers? actually were they actually directed to do something or was it more vague than that? >> what we understand now is one of the teenagers was known to law enforcement at the time. something had gone on. on in which she is at least known to intelligence agents at the time. there is some reporting that the u.s. understood there was a threat against the concert. there was something public or at least part of the surveillance that was captured that the specific individual was arrested with the explosives. he was relatively unknown to law enforcement. is radicalized from what we understand from family members in a relatively short time. he is probably just going down the rabbit hole of radicalization. they find you, bring you into back channels, websites, the dark web that we don't even
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follow. and basically launch what could have been a terrible incident not just for europeans and others. we know how international concerts are. taylor swift is an american icon. this was a focus on an image of and a reflection of america's openness and talent and youth. everything that she represents. we are pretty lucky that it was stopped. amna: thank you so much for joining us tonight. we really appreciate your insights and time. >> thank you. geoff: the olympics are coming 2024 to an end. in the lead up to and during the
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games, french authorities cleared thousands of homeless people out of paris. police have cited security reasons but homeless advocates see it very differently. we have this report from paris. >> this is home for a night. he and his wife share this small tent. one backpack is all they have. the tents were set up by migrant support group that got permission to use an empty building on the outskirts of paris. >> right now i would it's hard to integrate if you don't have somewhere to sleep. it's difficult, it's difficult. >> in 2018 mamadou came to work in france from one of its former colonies: senegal, in west africa. after years in immigration limbo he now has his legal papers, but says he and his wife are traumatized by how they are treated. earlier this year, she suffered a miscarriage when the couple was attacked here in paris.
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>> it's hellish. sometimes we sleep in the streets, sometimes at train stations. we can be assaulted. our belongings were stolen, the only bag i have today is one backpack, one pair of shoes and just what i am wearing. >> there are 100,000 homeless people like mamadou living in and around paris, but not near enough shelter to house all of them. last year the french government began busing the homeless, many of whom are migrants, to temporary shelters across the country. activists call the months-long campaign social cleansing. those who remain in paris often live in tents like these. activists built this demonstration as a protest to try to force the government to provide more support to the homeless community. this is the image the french government sought to avoid as they prepared for the paris olympics. now every night activists from
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aid organization utopia 56 meet the homeless in paris to find a place for them to sleep. they say they do what they can when state support falls through. nathan lequeux is the group's accommodation coordinator. >> government policy on emergency accommodation and housing is non-existent. it is even damaging and totally aggressive towards these people. in other words, these people end up on the streets, and that's a political choice. it's a choice made by the government. >> in northern paris, police cleared the area that used to be a homeless encampment. it's now an empty lot. boats meander past what used to be a tented community. the french sports minister denies social cleansing is taking place. amelie oudea-castera told french media before the games that emergency accommodation policy decisions have nothing to do
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with the olympics. some people still live in this district, in tents partially hidden behind a hedge. harder for police patrols to spot. and paris works to keep community support systems like this open for them: offering free showers. anyone can come, no questions asked. but city authorities argue more respect should be shown to vulnerable people. lea filoche is the deputy mayor of paris for refugee protection. she says the french government's policy is hostile to migrants. >> the policies today force people to stay on the streets, where they can't access their rights, where they don't have any dignity for the last four years, the government's migration policy has not been welcoming to migrants. in fact, it's been quite the opposite. olympics or not, i am against this policy because this is not how we should resolve the situation. >> and activists say authorities silence any mention of
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displacement. 'the other side of the medal' is a collective group of associations and activists focusing on the social impact of the paris olympics. this week, they staged a collage of portraits of people who used to live on the streets. while we were filming, law enforcement arrived. the presence of dozens of police officers underlined the tensions surrounding anything concerning migrants in paris, including art. >> usually, when we see the police it's to move on people living in tents on the riverside. today, it's to prevent us from expressing something about that issue. >> these olympics have impacted homeless immigrant niclette. french authorities transferred her out of paris before the games began. but everyday, she has to make her way back to the capital to access food, for her and her five-month-old daughter. >> unfortunately, due to the
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olympic games, when i called the emergency support number they said you can't remain here, they offer the suburbs or different towns far away, not here in paris. >> niclette came from kinshasa, in the democratic republic of congo, on a grueling path that led through turkey to greece, and eventually made it to france seeking a chance at a better life. >> i'm looking for an apartment where i can stay, and then i will look for work but how can i work if i have nowhere to stay. i am stuck. >> and even as the olympic games brings joy to millions of spectators. for people like niclette, the rare moments of happiness she enjoys are coupled with an uncertain future for her and her daughter. for the pbs newshour, i'm ross cullen in paris.
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amna: fabiola moreno ruelas is a first-generation college graduate currently working for the california state legislature. she is also the founder of the ruelas fulfillment foundation, which aims to help high school students pursue higher education. tonight, she gives her brief but spectacular take on how anyone can give. >> i was born and raised in california, that's in the central coast. a lot of people, their parents are farmworkers, their families are living paycheck-to-paycheck. when i was 16, it was one of the roughest times for my family. unfortunately we cannot pay rent anymore. both my mom and my stepdad at that had lost their jobs. point it was really hard because that summer, i was going into my junior year of high school. i could not let this experience
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repeat itself in my life. i was the first one in my family to go to college. i knew that i wanted to go and explore more of california. see what the world had to offer. i knew it would help myself and my family, my nieces, my brothers. i knew it would have a domino effect in my family. when i was 14 years old, my friends and i decided to go to the movies. we were driving down the 101 when a big rig hit the van we were in. we went into a ditch. it absolutely changed my life. i ended up with a fractured skull, back, and wrist. we ended up suing the company. we settled, and at that age i , knew i would get some settlement funds when i turned 18. it was more money than i had ever seen in my life.
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i knew i would use some for college, obviously, but i knew i wanted to give back. i reached out to my school counselor and ask her how i could get a scholarship started. i give out the scholarship and i select the recipients based off their involvement in any start of community. they want to do better and be better. not only for themselves, but because they know that will have an impact on the family as well. now i am a legislative aide. i live in sacramento. i work for an assembly member. i like to say that i give in two ways. i give through the scholarship and change systematic barriers that hinder people from going to college. cindy agee lark is a first-generation student.
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she graduated from berkeley. the scholarship allowed her to buy school supplies. and settle into college. inherently, human beings want to give. they feel a sense of happiness when they do. i could've lost my life at that point, and for one reason or the other, i didn't. think i didn't because i was meant to do this. this is my brief but spectacular take on how anyone can give. amna: you can watch more of these videos online at our website. that is the news hour for tonight. geoff: for all of us here, thank you for spending some of your evening with us. >> major funding for the pbs news hour has been provided by -- the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions.
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