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geoff: kamala harris outlines her economic plan. amna: negotiators for a gaza cease-fire deal make significant progress, but sticking points remain. geoff: and amid a horrific civil war in sudan, the country's vice president defends his unwillingness to participate in u.s.-led peace talks. >> major funding for "the pbs newshour" has been provided by the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of "the newshour" including jim and nancy build there and the robert and virginia schiller foundation, the judy and peter bloom coppola foundation, building freedom -- promoting freedom by strengthening democracies at home and abroad.

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plan to respond to issues for voters. today, vice president harris on the trail in north carolina. >> costs are still too high and on a deeper level, for too many people, no matter how much they work, it feels so hard to just be able to get ahead. amna: focus, they say -- lowering costs for everyday americans. new data shows inflation cooling year over year, but a recent swing state voter survey shows on economic issues, harris' republican opponent, former president trump, still has an edge. 48% of respondents say they trust trump more to get inflation and the cost of living under control compared to 42% for harris. trump's lead, however, is shrinking compared to how he fared against president biden on the same issue. meanwhile, the trump campaign

event in new jersey thursday night -- >> we would not have had inflation. we would not have had the israeli terror attack. >> the republican candidate veered off message. he praised a republican mega donor. last night, he acclaimed the presidential medal of freedom was better than the highest decoration for members of the u.s. military. >> it's actually much better because everyone gets the congressional medal of honor -- that's soldiers. they are either in very bad shape because they have been hit so many times by bullets, or they are dead. >> the remarks were called insulting. trump's running mate, ohio senator and military veteran jd vance, defended trump at the milwaukee police association today. >> this is a guy who loves our veterans and who honors our

veterans. i don't think him, limiting and saying a nice word about a person who received the presidential medal of freedom is in any way denigrating those who received military honors. >> it was a second stop in wisconsin this month after being named trump's running mate at the republican national convention in milwaukee in july. the democratic national convention will begin next week in neighboring illinois, where harris is expected to roll out additional detailed policy proposals. for more on the specifics of harris' economic policy proposals, i am joined by economics reporter from "the new york times." thanks for being with us. let's start with harris campaign's plan to address what they call price gouging and what they blame in part for harry grocery prices. the harris campaign says she would implement the first ever federal ban on corporate price gouging and will work with the ftc and congress to do so. what exactly are they proposing that they would do on this front? and knowing what you do about why grocery prices are where

they are, could this approach actually worked to bring those prices down? >> what exactly is the key question here, and the answer is we do not know yet. we do not know what this policy would look like, and i think the devil is in the details. we do not know how to go about preventing price gouging or even how they are defining price gouging at this point. what we do know is profits went up quite a lot in the grocery sector during the sort of aftermath of the 2020 pandemic. in 2020 one, we saw profits shoot up at grocery stores, and they stayed up for a while. we saw companies make in a lot more profits because they were charging more. as costs shot up, they were charging more to try to cover costs and actually charged a bit more than what was necessary to cover costs that period, so there are a lot of people out there who have been saying things like this was an example of price gouging, this was an example of what happens when you have been in perfectly

competitive marketplace, and really saying that we need to see some sort of response from the government on this, and that is what we are potentially seeing here. you get economist on the other sites i think that this was an economy that worked like you would expect. we had shortages for things. we had shortages for eggs, shortages for a lot of grain-type things as a result, and companies were charging more because things were in short supply and they could charge more, and that resulted in more production, and prices came down. some economists are saying this is econ 101. this is how economies work and some sort of price mechanism to stop economies working the way they would on their own, you might not have that come online, and at the same time, progressive economists are really celebrating this. amna: the devil, as you say, is in those details. move on to housing, a big piece of this policy proposal and addressing the harry -- housing

affordability problem in america. they say a potential president harris would call for the construction of 3 million new housing units over the next three years and that the government would provide first-time homebuyers with up to $25,000 in down payment assistance. from the experts you talk to who have looked at these plans, how viable are plans like this and what is their potential impact? >> i think there are two big questions, one is political viability and the other accounting viability. when it comes to the political viability side, this would have to pass congress. in order to get those new homes built, he would have to have a lot of support. the lady harris campaign proposes to do it is through at lot of incentives -- the way the harris campaign proposes to do it is through a lot of incentives for homebuyers. on the backside of that, you have to say, would it work and would it work in the timeframe

the harris campaign is talking about? it is a pretty ambitious, pretty accelerated timeframe they are laying out. she is saying those 3 million units would go up in the first four years she is in office. the flipside is if we are not building enough supply and you are giving first-time homebuyers $25,000 as a credit, is there a risk that home sellers can just charge more given that buyers can afford to pay more? i think this is a big, 90 -- knotty set of questions. amna: another set of proposals that would also have to go through congress has to do with the child tax credit. they harris campaign says she would propose not only restoring the child tax credit introduced during the pandemic of $3000 per child under the age of 18 after $36 for each child under the age of six, but expanding the

provision for children under the age of one work building families. what kind of a difference could that make and what is the viability? place there really is a lot of bipartisan support for the child tax credit, in fact. we saw jd vance over the weekend to talk about how he would love to see a bigger child tax credit. i think there is some possibility the republicans would reach across the aisle on this one. they could get something through congress on the child tax credit. i think a huge question, though, is how you pay for it. it obviously is expensive to do these things. the harris campaign has not laid out in detail how they plan on paying for these kinds of policies. they do mention in campaign briefings, things like wealthy americans paying their fair share, but at this point, we do not have a detailed explanation of how this would be supported in the budget, so i think that is the big question going forward. >> briefly, if you can, when you

look big picture at some of these policy proposals, how do they compare to the policies we have seen from the biden administration? is the harris campaign going in a new or different direction or more of the same? >> i think a lot of this builds on the harris and biden agenda for goes a step further, more dramatic, maybe a little more populist in some cases likely price gouging. it tries to tackle a lot of kitchen table issues surrounding costs and price increases that have really bedeviled the biden-harris white house. these have been real issues they have struggled with and it seems she is really tackling them head on here. amna: thank you so much. good to speak with you. >> thanks for having me. geoff: turning our focus now to the middle east where mediators working on a gaza cease-fire wrapped up talks and by some indications wrapped on a hopeful note.

nick: as you say, u.s. officials are hopeful, even optimistic. senior officials met with reporters and here's phrases like, the process is now in the indie game, deal that is ready to close, the package is basically they are, there is still no israeli and hamas agreement to the agreement mediators called a bridging proposal. recall there is an overall agreement on the framework of the first phase of this deal, six-week cease-fire, release of more than 30 hostages from hamas, and 700 palestinian detainees released by israel. a humanitarian aid search alongside a phase israeli withdrawal from gaza. the senior official said on israel's insistence to control the corridor between arch -- egypt and gaza, that if she was moving the right way. uncheck once inside gaza that

israel insists on, officials say the agreement aimed to block gazans who move from the south to the north. in the coming days, working groups will examine which israeli hostages and palestinian prisoners will be released and in what sequence. u.s., egypt, and culture -- qatar said they would aim to conclude the deal next week in cairo when they reconvene. president biden said we are closer than we have ever been, but again, there is no confirmation from israel or hamas, the two sides fighting this war, that they will agree to language that not only pauses the war but blocks iranian intervention. they are worried because they have seen iran make preparations for an attack. president biden explicitly said no one should launch an attack that could derail negotiations. so holding out hope -- if holding out hope for a gaza cease-fire is a kind of carrot

to iran, the administration also delivered a stick, and explicit warning to iran. a senior administration official said of iran's warning that it might strike israel, "we would encourage iranians not to move down that road because the consequences could be quite cataclysmic, particularly for iran." that is not language this administration often uses. secretary of state tony blinken will travel to israel again tomorrow to meet the israeli prime minister, a visit designed to underscore the u.s. message on iran but also try to make sure that netanyahu agrees to the cease fire language that is coming out today because, again, that other administration official warned israel today, if you continue to negotiate for months and months and try to get the perfect deal, you risk having no hostages left. geoff: thanks for that.

i appreciate it. stephanie: i am stephanie sy "newshour west." russia is looking to score a major military victory. authorities in the eastern ukrainian city have urged residents to evacuate as russian troops draw near. the city is one of ukraine's main defensive strongholds and a key logistics hub in the domestic region. meantime, ukraine's army chief told president volodymyr zelenskyy in a video call that his forces are advancing a little over a mile into russian territory. ukraine says it controls more than 140 square miles of russia's kursk region. thousands of people protested in cities across india today amid growing national anger after a trainee doctor was raped and killed as a government hospital last week. >> we want justice! we want justice! we want justice!

>> at want to rally in new delhi, medical workers in their right coats join protesters. the protest began a week ago when police found the bloody body of a 31-year-old at a medical college in kolkata. an autopsy later confirmed she had been sexually assaulted. >> women of this country are being wronged daily. if you are a rich or poor woman, educated or uneducated, predators can do anything they want to women in this country. there is no justice, there is no action. stephanie: final hurricane preparations are underway in bermuda as ernesto turns closer to its coastlines. the category two storm is strengthening as it moves at the atlantic, packing maximum sustained winds of 100 miles per hour. ernesto could drop a foot of rain on the british territory starting saturday morning. meantime, in puerto rico, power has yet to be restored to some

250,000 people nearly three days after the storm made landfall there. another 178,000 are without water. the outages in puerto rico have prompted health and safety concerns for the island where more than 40% of the population lives beneath the poverty line. palestinian health officials report the first case of polio in gaza today since the war began. in unvaccinated 10-month-old child contracted the highly contagious virus. health and children's agencies have called for a week long cease-fire to allow for vaccination of gaza's 640 thousand children. a jury in florida has convicted a woman who shot and killed her neighbor in a dispute over children playing near her home. the all-white jury found the 60-year-old defendant guilty of manslaughter after two and a half hours of deliberation. the children's mother was killed when the defendant fired a single shot through her front

door in june of last year. she had tried to use florida's stand your ground law in her defense. she now faces up to 30 years in prison. president biden designated the site of an infamous 1908 race right -- race riot in illinois as a national monument today. mr. biden was joined by lawmakers and civil rights leaders in the oval office as he signed the proclamation making the site federal land. it covers 1.5 acres and serves as a reminder of the riot by white mobs that resulted in the deaths of several black residents and destroyed dozens of homes and businesses. at the white house today, president biden said it is important that such history does not fade away. >> we are not going to a race history. we are allowing history to say what really happened so our children and grandchildren and everybody understand what happened and what can still happen.

stephanie: the naacp was created in the aftermath of those riots. the new jersey governor picked his former chief of staff today to replace senator bob menendez. the democrat plans to resign later this month following his federal bribery conviction. at a press conference in newark today, governor murphy said george kelly will serve in the senate until shortly after the november election. once a winner is certified, murphy will appoint that person to fill the role until the new senate is sworn in early next year. democratic congressman andy kim is running against a republican real estate developer for the seat. and public broadcasting has lost one of its own. former npr chief executive john lansing has died just months after leaving the job. in his foreign a half years at the helm, lansing saw npr through the covid pandemic, staff layoffs, and a financial crisis that he himself described as existential. before that, lansing enjoyed a long career in broadcasting.

john lansing was 67 years old. still to come, how the city hosting next week's democratic national committee venture has been handling a migrant surge. and david brooks and jonathan capehart rate down the week's news. -- break down the week's news. >> this is "the pbs newshour those quote from weta studios in washington and in the west from walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. geoff: chicago, the city hosting the democratic national convention next week, has been at the center of the discussion on immigration policy. >> concorde missionary baptist church on chicago's southside was transformed in the last two years. the historically black church

now offers live translation during its services to accommodate a growing number of spanish-speaking congregants who fled their homes to the united states. like they are here, they are hungry, and they are hurting and they are in our community. from a christian standpoint, we have always welcomed visitors and strangers. >> people who are strangers no more. she now lives in a studio apartment with her two daughters after spending six months in a city shelter when they arrived from venezuela. >> it's good to feel that you have peace, and pastor phelps has helped me a lot with that. any problem we have or anything we need, he always tells us to let him know and that he will take care of us. i feel at home. >> but the integration of these new members has not been easy. >> many of the community were

not welcoming. >> phelps says community outrage erupted early last year when the city opened a shelter for migrants at a defunct elementary school around the corner from the church. the community had been told it would be a job training center. >> we were told that the city did not have resources to do that, and then somehow, mysteriously, magically, you find monday's to put up a shelter. it just did not sit right with the community. >> over the last two years, chicago has spent nearly $500 million on editing migrants, one of several u.s. cities targeted by texas governor greg abbott, who has sent more than 100,000 migrants in a politically motivated move to shift the nation's attention to migration. >> i ship the border to them, and those buses are going to continue to roll until we secure our border.

>> the drop in the number of migrants in chicago has coincided with a massive drop in the number of people being seen at the border for asylum. chicago's deputy mayor for immigrant, migrant, and refugee rights as is the city is looking for more action from washington. >> this is a federal responsibility. what we have done here is billed and asylum-seekers resettlement program. it has been tense at times, but we have managed to do it without taking away any programs or other committees. >> trump has increasingly demonized migrants. >> they have poisoned our country, that's what they have done. they have poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world. >> trump's campaign posted a

meme on social media, saying, "import the third world, become the third world." he is also using the influx of migrants to win over black voters at the margins. >> i will tell you that coming from the border are millions and millions of people that happen to be taking black jobs. >> jaime dominguez is a professor at northwestern university. he says the large numbers of migrants to chicago and other cities ignited a broader discussion among democrats. >> it has forced the democratic party to begin to have a conversation about going forward, what kind of platform they were going to put forward. >> as a border state prosecutor, she took on drug cartels. >> recently, the harris campaign began running ads in arizona and nevada that relate to her background as attorney general in california and includes a

pledge to hire thousands more border patrol agent. in rallies, vice president harris has attacked republicans for killing a border security bill. one of the most conservative to be considered by congress in decades. >> earlier this year, we had a chance to pass the toughest bipartisan border security bill in decades, but donald trump tanked the deal. >> despite polls showing harris ahead and gaining momentum in nearly all battleground states, a recent poll found registered voters favor trump on handling immigration. 53% compared to 47% for harris. the former president has made the deportation of undocumented immigrants a central tenet of his campaign's immigration proposals. >> we will start the largest mass deportation in the history of our country. >> that worries at 24-year-old

who arrived in chicago 24 months ago with her partner and children. >> we feel very hurt. we understand the damage they would do to us. there may be some people who come to do harm, but we are not all the same. in venezuela, my 13-year-old brother was killed. that's why i fled to the united states, to look for a better life for our children and for ourselves. >> a client on one house on the city's northwest side, a nonprofit sorting -- supporting asylum-seekers in chicago. despite fewer people arriving in recent months, this caseworker says the organization is still scrambling to provide services. >>e actually have more than 1000 on the waiting list, so there's a very high need. >> he says many clients are aware that their ability to make a life in the u.s. may be upended if former president trump wins in november. >> they are very well informed on what is going on.

not having to run the risk of being deported, the clients are very afraid. >> in chicago, the promised influx of migrants from texas to coincide with the democratic national convention has not materialized, and today, u.s. customs and border protection announced that encounters were down 32% from june to july, the lowest monthly total since september of 2020, and that's the first full month of data since president biden signed an executive action restricting asylum-seekers. geoff: thank you. days before she formally accepts her party's nomination at the democratic national convention in chicago, vice president harris is unveiling key policy proposals. for that and more, we turn to the analysis of brooks and capehart, "new york times" columnist david brooks and jonathan capehart. vice president harris hopes to sharpen her economic message

with a focus on cutting costs. your paper referred to as an aggressively populist economic agenda. she's talking about eliminating medical debt, a 25,000 dollars subsidy for first-time homebuyers. give us some of your takeaways from her speech and the policy rollout. >> well, clearly, as we know from the polls, the economy is either issue number 1, 2, or three for the american people, so it makes sense that she would use her first policy speech to focus on not just economics or a piece of economics -- she did say at the top of her remarks that there are a bunch of other things she will roll out later, but she wanted to focus on this very narrow issue, which are issues that the american people say is top of mind for them -- cost of living and everything that relates to that, if it is drug prices or rent or grocery prices, and so, if she will be

able to fulfill a lot of these promises remains to be seen. a lot of it has to do also with the makeup of the next congress, but the thing that is top of mind for me is that not only is she using prices and consumer prices and what the american voters are thinking of where the economy hits them hardest in the pocket book, this comes after "the financial times" university of michigan ross school of business put out a poll -- i think it was on saturday or sunday, just over the weekend -- that showed that the vice president is one point hire -- 42% to 41% for donald trump in terms of how the people surveyed who they trust to guide the economy, and that is no matter who they wanted to vote for. the momentum we have seen the vice president have at her back since taking over the top of the ticket is now -- she's got the momentum at her back when it comes to policy issues and on the economy in particular.

geoff: on this matter of economic policy, the vice president is also proposing the first ever ban on price gouging for groceries, a particular issue that pulls well with swing voters, but economists say the underlying reasons why prices are higher, it's a more complicated argument. >> she had some new policies. i think the child tax credit is a good thing. she wants to get more homes. the price gouging -- catherine, and his editor, said it is impossible to overstate how bad this idea is. if you're opponent is calling you a communist, maybe don't lead with price controls. first, it's trying to address a problem that does not exist. grocery prices, inflation has been less than 1% for the past

year. it's over. we had a surge, but it's over. the problem does not exist. the real, core problem is it expresses a level of economic illiteracy, which is kind of surprising in a responsible democratic candidate. the idea behind rhe inflation is we had all these years of low inflation under obama and bush, and suddenly biting gets in and magically, they all start price gouging. and she thinks she can prosecute it. that is not why inflation surged. inflation surged because of the pandemic which screwed up supply chains and productivity, and the biden administration overstimulated economy, too many dollars, too few goods. officials said at the time this would cause inflation. lo and behold, it did. that is what causes inflation. that is solid, basic economics.

geoff: what about that, the parts of the harris policy speak to an economic illiteracy? >> i take issue with the use of the word illiteracy, but we will just have to agree to disagree on our word choices, david, but catherine van pelt raises a very good point. her column i found to be rather persuasive, so now it is incumbent on the vice president and her team to flesh this out a little bit more, but if we are going to talk about economic illiteracy, can we talk about donald trump and his proposal that he talked about at his press conference, i believe it was last night, talking about a tariff on all imports? we don't talk enough about what that tariff on all imports would mean to the american consumer. that would mean higher prices, but the former president does not talk about that. i think when you're talking about the vice president's plan

on price gouging and if she would be able to get that done before we talk about the former president's plan of tariffs on imports, let's have this robust conversation, which i think we will have because the vice president still has to flesh out other portions of her agenda. geoff: let's keep our focus on donald trump because he is facing backlash for his comments about veterans. here is what he said at an event . >> sitting so proud at the white house when we gave miriam the presidential medal of freedom. that's the highest award you can get as a civilian, the equivalent of the congressional medal of honor for a civilian person. it's actually much better because everyone gets the congressional medal of honor, that's soldiers. they are either in very bad shape because they have hit -- been hit so many times by bullets or they are dead. she gets hit and she is a

healthy, beautiful woman. they are rated equal. >> when i worked for the mccain campaign, he had a whole group of medal of honor winners. i was in all -- in awe to be around those guys. they were great guys. throughout his career, donald trump has had trouble with military valor. he has attacked mccain about it. he attacked the people in cemeteries. he attacked people here because that's what real manhood looks like and it bugs him. geoff: there are republicans who have pointed out that at a time when you have the republican campaign targeting tim walz's military record, this gives the harris campaign fodder and at donald trump -- aimed at donald trump. >> absolutely.

what did misses abelson do that was in service to something other than herself? the people who get these metals, particularly members of the military, who the former president disparaged, gave something -- either they gave their lives or they gave their limbs, or they gave their mental health -- they gave a lot in the service of this country. these are the biggest patriots there are, and i agree with david. i think donald trump is broken. he is broken when it comes to anything related to -- i don't know, human feeling, something or someone does something for someone other than themselves, and it's too late for him to fix it, but it's not too late for the american people to ensure that he is never put in a position to give another presidential medal of freedom again. geoff: is there a risk that

voters grow tired of what is now very familiar. i raised the question because megyn kelly, the former fox personality who has a podcast, said trump's rambling -- that's the word she used -- she said the rambling is boring and probably age-related. >> i wonder about that. trump has been saying stupid stuff for a long time. but trump is still doing better than he was in 2020 or 2017, so he is still a very viable candidate, and all the stupid comments, which now run into the zillions, don't seem to have hurt him. because people think he gets them. you can tell a lot of, but if people think you recognize america, they will work for you. >> i have been watching the rallies. he is less funny than he was, certainly as an entertainer, so i think megyn kelly is onto something.

geoff: what about that? earlier, you mentioned kamala harris' momentum. does the energy and enthusiasm on the democrat side mask the fact that this is still a competitive race? >> this race has always been statistically tied, but you cannot deny that you would rather be the democratic ticket right now with momentum and enthusiasm at your side and pushing you into your convention and hopefully pushing you out of your convention, even if you are statistically tied, but this is probably the one and only time i will agree with megyn kelly. his shtick, it is not funny. it is boring. it is tiresome, and even if there are people who support the former president, even those who are on the periphery, which those are the folks he has got to worry about.

those republicans are folks who might think, i don't know if i want to vote for this guy again, i don't know if i want to go through another four years of vengeance and name-calling and tearing this country down -- i watch just about every rally and speech and press conference he has done since the change of the top the democratic ticket, and it's like watching an old cover band play the same old -- what they view as their hits over and over again. at a certain point, donald trump is going to have to give not just his supporters, his diehard followers something, he's got to give other people a reason to vote for him, and so far -- maybe i'm biased, but i don't see it. geoff: next week, it will be democrats' turn to cheer on their presidential nominee and her running mate, minnesota governor tim walz. what will you be watching for?

what do you want to hear? >> a few things. one, i will be watching to see how the democratic party treats president biden on his big night on monday. the other thing i will be looking for is if the protests related to gaza, if they make their way inside the hall and if they make their way inside the hall, how big they will be, how disruptive they will be, and what the reaction will be. then, the vice president's speech -- i'm sorry, the vice presidential nominee's speech, and in the presidential nominee's speech and what they say, how they say it, and how they rock it or do not out of chicago. >> it's a little confusing when you have a vice president who is the presidential nominee and as presidential candidate all in the same party. >> usually one party knows they are down, but when republicans had their convention, they were winning enough democrats are in

a fantastic mood. i will be watching for the biden speech, other the big names, the obamas, but mostly i'll be watching to see if the country is ready for an emotional change of tone. >> her approach and use of the word joy and tim walz's approach, too, why do you think that might be effective in this cycle? >> i watched the montana rally that prompted, and she was out in nevada, and i just turned off the volume on youtube and just looked at her face. she is exuberant, sending out waves of positive emotion. trump, evenhen he's talking about how much people love him, he looks scowling and angry, and we have been in a very pessimistic mode, and maybe the country is still there. i was in the rocky mountains recently, and i met a lot of people that are very pessimistic.

when --geoff: we will see you both in chicago. visitors to a new art installation in the caribbean will need to take masks and oxygen tanks. called "a world adrift," the underwater sculptural installation is the work of a british artist who wants to highlight the dangers of climate change for the west indies. >> in common with every artist, whose vision begins with a blank canvas. his latest is more exotic than most, the chalets of the caribbean. >> for me, it is very important, a way of telling stories, a way of looking at nature and looking into this fascinating space where colors are different,

refraction is different, textures, formations, evolution, even how you feel is completely different. >> his studio in the county of kent is currently empty. the sculptures and the message they convey are being installed on the seafloor. what's left behind are his preparatory notes. >> we try to replicate the water, the surface texture, how light will penetrate through that and how, again, the organic transformation will adhere to the figures and change how they look. >> this is where you will be able to find the installation, sitting in the turquoise waters of one of three islands that comprise the small nation of grenada. >> they are small boats, made to look like they are fabricated in origami. they are actually made of green stainless steel, and they encompass these local schoolchildren.

they depict messages about climate change, but overall, it is meant to show this fragile future that we are building for communities and how imperiled they are. >> climate change is a constant theme of taylor's work. inside britain's parliament, the four horsemen are speaking to power. not far from his studio on the north kent coast is the sculpture's -- sculptor's expression of anger exacerbated by climate change. just like the caribbean, britain is suffering from climate change in that it is raining even more than ever before, and when it

rains, britain's antiquated sewage systems cannot cope. the water companies are pumping record levels of sewage into the rivers and the seas. how can art affect climate change? >> i'm not sure how it can affect climate change, but it can certainly change our attitudes towards it. with this particular installation, i'm hoping that will demonstrate how fragile some of these small caribbean island nations are and how at risk they are from hurricanes, rising sea levels, warming sees, would have a detrimental effect to the coral reefs. quick warming sees also have a detrimental effect on making hurricanes stronger. >> yes, of course, the hurricanes have become much stronger and earlier in the season. this recent hurricane, hurricane beryl, was the first time a category five hurricane had been recorded this early in the year. >> hurricane beryl caused devastation in grenada. three people were killed.

70% of buildings on the side of taylor's work were either damaged or destroyed. it's because of such natural disasters and the fear of what is to come that the government of grenada commissioned the sculpture. what is the purpose of doing sculptures underwater were relatively few people can see them? >> many different purposes. first and foremost on a basic level, they are a habitat for marine life, so they are designed with textures, formations, surfaces that actually attract marine life, so that then becomes a platform for coral, for crustaceans, for different types of creatures to live within. it also helps draw people away from natural settings, so the visitors go to different regions, it helps take them away from natural sites and brings them to these artificial areas. >> but who will see them apart from the squid? >> well, you would be surprised. now we are in the digital era,

so thousands of people see it by their screens. we are never going to engineer or negotiate ourselves out of this process. that's only part of the solution. for me, it is about changing our values and belief systems. reclaiming space gives me a sense of hope and a real sense of healing. if we can reconsider our relationship to nature, to revere it, be reminded that we are nature ourselves, we might see who we really are and what an incredible world we are part of. >> the coming few months could underscore the relevance of taylor's work. climate experts predict this hurricane season will be particularly severe. ♪ amna: sudan has been caught in a

bloody war between the country's army and the militia, the rapid support forces, for 16 months with tens of millions of sudanese civilians caught in between. this week, the united states mediated peace talks. they sudanese armed forces refused to attend. in the first of her reports from a rare trip inside the country with the support of the pulitzer center, special correspondent leda milana allen sat down with sudan's president in port sudan on the red sea. >> five years ago, elated sudanese, young and old, danced in the streets after country-wide protest brought down sudan's 30-year dictator and indicted war criminal. democracy had arrived, but just two years later, the sudanese army and a rehabilitated militia, the rapid support forces, united under the army

chief and took power in what sudanese civil society calls a coup against the people. sudan's vice president and deputy head of the military junta that has ruled the country since 2021. a former insurgent leader, he has been a leading political and military figure for decades. before the explosion of the conflict, the rss leader was vice president. the rss broke away from sudan's army and began to against it. the war erupted seemingly without warning, making -- taking most sudanese by surprise in its speed and ferocity. "the newshour" sat down with the vice president to discuss the prospect for peace. in the latest on the fighting. >> they pulled the sudan

government army into a position of defense. after one year, the sudanese have wanted to change the tone of the war. quincy has been an outspoken critic of international attempts to mediate the conflict and encourage negotiation with the rss, saying the only solution is the complete military destruction of the militia. >> anyone who negotiates with rss -- rsf is committing political suicide. how do you kill people, how do you rate girls and women? they will have no control over these forces.

>> the interest in the conflict has resulted in a study flow of weapons and mercenaries on both sides. in june, he met with russian president vladimir putin. we asked what he hoped to achieve. >> [indiscernible] >> attention to the conflict has been muted in the west, but news they have brokered a deal with iran has raised alarm. he says if they are worried about where sudan gets its weapons, they should sell to sit and themselves. human rights groups have documented evidence that weapons being supplied by the uae,

russia, and turkey, among others, smuggled into rsf territory via neighboring chad. the united states is a leading arms seller to the uae. what impact are those foreign weapons having on your ability to fight this war? >> definitely, they have a great effect. the sudanese army never had such weapons. these are being supported by the uae and hamas. the uae has a lot of economic interests. number one of them is coal mining. >> what do you want the united

states to do in terms of taking responsibility for the use of those u.s.-manufactured weapons? >> one thing the u.s. government is stop supplying the uae. then they have to decide, do they want a war in sit and or do they want, as they talk about, democracy and human rights? >> do you believe that these efforts to try and become involved in peace talks for sudan are simply political posturing ahead of the election? >> yes. definitely yes. they are not serious about it. >> the u.s. is mediating talks

aimed at improving the humanitarian situation, but both of the chief parties to the conflict are absent. leaders say they have little faith in the process. what is it that makes you feel this u.s. administration is not a serious partner? questing way they are behaving. -- >> the weather behaving. [indiscernible] >> u.s. engagement has been patchy. special envoy to sudan has never visited the country in his role. a plan visit was aborted after the u.s. team refused to travel any further inside sudan and the airport, citing security concerns. what does that say to you about their seriousness of being

involved in peace talks in sudan ? >> if you are serious to solve a problem somewhere, while you don't go and visit this country? >> meanwhile, civil political leaders say they have been cut out of the peace talks and plans for sudan's future. is it the intention of the sudanese armed forces to immediately give power to a democratically elected leader when the war is over? >> if they are ready to take the country to the elections and hand over power. >> and that is what will happen? >> that is what is supposed to happen. >> for now, as the war rages on, democracy has been perched on the back burner.

geoff: we had hoped to bring you an interview with former u.s. ambassador to russia john sullivan about his new book, "midnight in russia" but we experienced some technical difficulties, so we will have that conversation for you next week. amna: also be sure to join us for special coverage of the democratic national committee and. that begins monday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. geoff: and tune in to "washington week" for a preview of the convention. thanks for spending part of your evening with us and have a great weekend. >> major funding for "the pbs newshour" has been provided by -- and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of "the newshour" including kathy and paul anderson.

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