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jeff: the first child to get polio in a displaced nation. amna: and women in afghanistan, women describe the brutal repression in the taliban re regime. >> it is like being in jail but the prison is your who. ♪ >> majoring funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by -- the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of the "newshour." including jim and nancy bildner and the rob and virginia foundation. the kevlar foundation, upholding freedom by strengthen democracies at home and abroad. >> the john s. and james a

alknight foundation fostering community. more at kf.org. >> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. and friends of the "newshour." >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. stephanie: i'm stephanie sy with "newshour" west. here are the latest headlines. we stewart the race for the white house. vice president kamala harris in her first sitdown interview since capturing the democratic

no, ma'am. during the 27 interview alongside tim walz harris thread a thin line between being a changed candidate and carrying on the legacy she forged with president biden she announced he would bring in a republican into her cabinet something that has not been done since the obama administration. >> i've spent my career inviting diversity of opinion. i think it's important to have people at the table when some of the most important decisions are being made that have different views, different experiences. i think it would be to the benefit of the american public to have a member of my cabinet who is a republican. >> also in that interview harris was pressed on why her economic proposals had not already been implemented. >> you have been vice president for three and a half years. the steps that you're talking about now why haven't youone them already? >> well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy. and we have done.

that i'm very proud of the work that we have done that has brought inflation down toless than 3%. i'll say that is good work. there's more to do. but that's good work. stephanie: harris's rivals donald trump campaigned in johnstown, pennsylvania. earlier on social media she described the harris interview as boring. he said the interview was hardly a test. >> kamala who is a total lightweight. did you see her on television last night? this is going to be the president. this is going to be the president of our country. i don't think so. sitting propped up in a desk. and it's the first interview she's done in like -- nobody's ever seen -- stephanie: a russian attack on ukraine's second largest city killed at least five people and injured dozens more. authorities said the bombs hit five lotion lowe cases across the city including a playground where at least one child died.

others were killed in a nearby apartment building that caught fire as a result of the attack. meantime, in washington, defense secretary lloyd austin met with his ukrainian counterpart today and condemned moscow's recent wave of strikes on civilian infrastructure. >> let me be clear, it is never acceptable to target civilians. and ukraine's resilience will help it prevail over putin's atrocities. stephanie: an f-16 fighter jet crashed earlier this week. u.s. experts have joined the investigation into what brought the jet down on monday. the israeli military said it killed a top commander during the third day of operations in the occupied west bank. video today caught smoke rising over the city of jenine as really police vehicles patrol on

the ground. israeli police said 19 people were killed. residents returned today finding their homes reduced to rubble. >> here where you are filming was the house of an old moment. since the first moment of the raid they destroyed the house and entered the house behind us. there were walls, no road here. they destroyed them here too. >> in gaza, an aid group says an israeli air strike killed several people when it struck a convoy that was carrying medical supply. they said the dead were employees of a local transportation company and the strike came without warning. gunmen were thing at the of the attack. investigations are ongoing. a judge in brazil has ordered x formerly twitter to be shut down across the country for undermining democracy. today's order came after the social media giant refused to name a legal representative as required under brazilian law.

the judge and x's owner elon musk have clashed over free speech and misinformation on the platform. about 1/5 of brazil's population uses x at least once a month. maryland supreme court has order add redo of the hearing that freed adnan s dayid. it's the latest twist in a legal drama that was the focus of this serila podcast. sayed was convicted two years ago for killing his high school ex-girlfriend. he was freed in 2022 only to have his conviction reinstate add year later. one of the dissenting judges in today's ruling wrote that the case is a pro zeal seed your zombie that has been rean nateed. sayecl remain free as the legal machinations continue. and we have results from the second full day of competition

at the paralympic games in paris in is it's shot put, lala tulili won gold. francis alexandra luta secure add second medal for the host nation winning the 3,000 meters by two seconds. teamsta won its first gold medal of the tournament thanks to gia pergalini's backstroke. and brazil takes the first golden parra athletics which includes running, jumps events. and we have a passing of note from the world of sports. nhl player johnny gaudreau and his brother were killed last night by a suspected drunken driver. as they were riding bicycles in their home state of new jersey. known as johnny hockey, gaudreau played 11 seasons in the nhl. most recently with the columbus blue jackets. he was known for his speed on the ice, his positivity and his

love of the game. gaudreau was in new jersey to be a groomsman at his sister's wedding this weekend. johnny gaudreau was 31 years old. his brother matthew was 29. still to come on the "newshour," how a new report finds insurance companies may impede american's access to therapy. david brooks and kimberly at atkins-store weigh in on the week's campaign headlines. and we hear from young afghan musicians who were forced to flee their country after the taliban takeover. >> this is the pbs newshour, from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> the world health organization is leading an earth to start vaccinating children in gaza this sunday against polio. israel and hamas have agreed to have three-day pauses in the

fighting in different zones so health workers can distribute the vaccine. it comes amid the massive destruction of gaza's healthcare infrastructure and after health officials detected the first polio case there in 25 years. in a refugee camp in the central gaza strip, a once vibrant baby boy now sits paralyzed in his car seat. 10 month old abdul rafman is the first confirmed case of polio in a quarter century. the anguish clear in his mother's voice. >> he's my only baby boy. it's his right to walk, run and move like before. it's his right to get the proper treatment, travel, get out and get his chance in life. >> nearly a year of displacement and destruction prevented her child from receiving a polio vaccine. >> we were displaced from the north to the south from one place to the other. abdul rahm man did not get his vaccinations. >> now as fighting drags on in

the death toll in gaza eclipses 40,000, authorities are scrambling to prevent the full blown outbreak that the united nations and health officials have been warning for months. >> we're calling for calm and human tear pause that is will allow the vaccination troops pass and be implemented successfully. israel and hamas have agreed to a series of humanitarian pauses in the fighting as the u.n. attempts to vaccinate more than 600 palestinian children under the age of 10. over one million dose of the polio vaccine have been ship into gaza. and more that 2,000 health work will conduct the operation. the w.h.o. says at least 95% coverage during each of the two vaccination rounds conducted four weeks apart is necessary to prevent the spread of the disease. >> this is a massive operation. the security, of course, is is

paramount. we urge all parties to insure that protection of them and of course of the families as well as the health facilities and children. but for palestinian families after nearly a year of sustained bombardment, the vaccine while welcomed offered little comfort. >> we are asking for a humanitarian truths. just have mercy on us, on the children so that we can give them the polio vaccine. the schools have been bombed, the camps have been bombed. the streets are bombed. there's bombing everywhere. there's bombing everywhere in gaza. >> for a deeper perspective now on the total collapse of health infrastructure in gaza, and the growing polio crisis we turned to dr. tammy abugne who returned from nassar hospital where she volunteered with the rescue committee as a rescue physician. >> thank you for having me. >> gaza is seeing its first

confirmed case of polio in 25 years. how big a threat does this pose? >> i think it pose as tremendous threat to the population of gaza but tools public felt that the region. the healthcare system has been under direct israeli bombardment in the last 11 months and the destruction of infrastructure mean that epidemic will become a common thing. this will be one of many epidemics. the decimation of the healthcare system by israeli forces will mean that it will be difficult to tackling. humanitarian pauses an truces and the gymnastics of coordinating a vaccination program made extremely difficult by the fact that there is still ongoing bombardment of civilian areas. >> a question about that because this w.h.o. noon inoculate more than 600,000 children against polio based on what you know of

the region and its disintegrated healthcare system, is this even feasible? >> it's the best that the world health organization is going to be able to do in the absence of cease-fire, this vaccination program is really the only patched up solution that we have at this point. in an ideal world we would be able to get a cease-fire and get all of these children vaccinated. >> it's important to know too that just because israel has outlined certain areas in certain times that sit not going the be bombarding these vaccination centers does no mean that it's going to make it easier. there are lots of logistics that go into these programs, transportation to these centers. the roads in gaza have been destroyed by israeli force. the areas around the vaccination center will still be subject to aerial bombardment by israeli forces. so all of the logistics of -- of

human tear pause in an operation like this are extremely complicated, made more difficult by the fact that it's hard to plan around what is -- israel will actually do during these times. >> you have been to gaza in the last few months. you've served in elaxa and in the south. how how have you described the humanitarian conditions? >> i would describe it in the same way that every worker has described it. it's catastrophic. there seems do be an idea that the healthcare system is december made it, incapacitated, crippled but it's still somewhat functional. but it's not nearly at the capacity that it should be. and sit not this spontaneous natural disvaster that's happened to gaza. it's the result of deliberate targeting and strikes. the things that we're seeing at el axa hospital are shortages of

supplies because israel restricts the amount of entry both of supplies and personnel that can come in. so on any given date when i was in the emergency department, we didn't have sufficient number of tourniquettes. we were reusing supply that is technically should not be used, intubation stylets. we were using rubber bands as tourniquettes. a lot. oh these patients require surgical intervention and there's simply not able to get it. and these are all the district result of israeli imposed restrictions. >> what do you carry as a health professional having worked in gaza? >> i mean, having worked in gaza and come back for my second mission the things that stay with you are really the stories of the people. besides the horrific trauma that you witness every single day to innocent civilians, you also see the stories of those civilians, the stories of the mothers, the

stories of the healthcare workers. any time i sit down in the emergency department on a shift i make it a point to speak to my palestinian colleagues about what their experiences have been. many have been kidnapped by israeli forces during the siege of the nassar hospital. and they tell me horrifying accounts of torture that they suffered because they were healthcare workers. human watch rereleased report on in the targeting and the torture of healthcare workers throughout the gaza strip. and their stories are in line with everything that's described in cash in that report. so really the scars that you carry coming out of gaza doing humanitarian aid work is the scars of the stories that people will tell you of the suffering that israel has inflicted on them. >> dr. tammie, thank you for making time first in between your shifts back here in illinois. i appreciate it. thank you.

♪ amna: more than one in five adults in the u.s. live with a mental illness but only about half receive treatment. many struggle to find a therapist that will accept their insurance. an n.p.r. pro republica report figured out the reasons why. stephanie sy has the story. stephanie: the report finds many therapists end up leaving because of difficulties getting reimbursed by insurers that leaves a lot of patients paying out of pocket or being unable to access care. i'm joined by annie waldman. annie, thanks for joining the "newshour." for this report, you and your colleagues interviewed i understand hundreds of psychologist, psychiatrist, therapists and you found that it's insurer who is decide the

length of care and ultimately who gets covered treatment, is that right? >> yeah, that's right. and the most simple terms, we wanted to understand that why sit that even when you have insurance, it can be so hard to access mental treatment. and what people don't realize is that insurance companies play a big role in this and have a big say in how much treatment you get, how often you get treatment. how frequently you get treatment and what kind of treatment you get. and providers told us that they experience a loft red tape dealing with insurers, delayed in payments, audits and reviews. therapists told us they try to commit to their patients and healthcare. but these practice from insurance companies are squeezing them out. significant so there's red tape. there's bureaucracy in having to file these -- sign stephanie: so there's red tape and there's bureaucracy in having to file these.

we all know inflation has been a factor, but that reimbursement rate has stayed the same. >> that's right in a lot of our interviews therapists told us that their rates have been stagnant and low. they earn about $98 for an hour of therapy. but if they went out of network they could get double that. so a lot of providers say that it's just not sustainable for them to stay in network and get these rates that are low in which all of their expenses of their office, their own health insurance. they can't keep up with them. >> so there are many claims that get denied on the basis of what the industry calls medical necessity. you spoke to a therapist who experienced that. here's what ana denoteo who provides therapy for children with autism had to say. >> they started to say that the amount of time we spent with the patient wasn't supported by the documentation.

and so it's things like that where they say, well, you're not demonstrating medical necessity. but they won't give you what the rubric is for medical necessity. >> annie, in disputes over what is medically necessary, i understand that there are not clear guidelines in mental healthcare the way there may be in physical healthcare. is that the crux of the problem? annie: yeah, the term "medical necessity" is frequently used by insurance to deny claims. many asume that if your mental health provider needs that if you need a length of treatment that they're the experts and they have the final say. but that's not true. insurance companies face few limitations on how they define what kind of care is necessary. they sometimes create their own internal standards instead of relying on the ones developed by nonprofits or professional medical societies. and these standards can be used to challenge diagnosis know

cease or treatment plans which can lead to denials of care. >> you also report instances where the therapist were told by insurers to spend less time with patients who the therapist as you call them the experts felt needed long-term care. again, here is what ana denoto said. >> it's really concerns and unethical because it's like saying to a surgeon we're going to give you four hours to be able to do open heart surgery. and sorry, not sorry if you can't firn. we don't know what to tell you. >> ana was not alone. you interviewed dozens of therapists some of whom felt that insurers reducing care for patients who were on the edge of self harm even suicide. so what impact did the therapist describe these insurance policies could have on their patients? >> yeah, you kno what's so striking from what ana experienced is that under the mental health pariy and

addiction act it's a federal law that requires insurance companies to provide the same access to mental health and physical healthcare. but we heard numerous stories about how mental healthcare was discriminated against and often scaled back in way that healthcare isn't. if you had kearns, they would not say if you try a less aggressive, less costly medication first and show that it doesn't work. but with mental healthcare, we heard stories of scaling back care for acute disorders often, someone in the midst of a mental health crisis who needed intensive treatment and would only improve coverage for a less intensive treatment first. such limitations risks patients could ricks bodily harm or even death through suicide. >> what do insurance companies tell you in the way of explaining these things?

>> rereach out to several and they told us that they are committed to insurer access to mental health providers. they emphasize that their plans are in compliance. they said that they have practices in place to make sure reimbursement rates reflect the market value for providers whih they're trying to recruit. >> annie walledman with pro publica. thank you for sharing your reporting with us. >> thank you for having me ♪ >> today marks three years since the chaotic withdraw of u.s. and nato allies from afghanistan. it marks three years of intense

fight pressure of women turned taliban regime what the u.s. has described as a strikeer resure from women. we spoke to two afghan women inside the country about their lives today. >> once the hub of u.s. troops in afghanistan, bag gram air force base is now the taliban stage. a show of force with a band in u.s. and nato equipment in 2021, a different scene here as desperate afghans clung to airplane wings during a chaotic u.s. withdraw. this month, the taliban draped the secretes with their flags marking three years in power, missing from these scenes, afghan women who say they're being erased from public life in a wave of taliban restrictions. >> it is like being in a jail. we're calling this woman sarah to protect her identity. women in afghanistan including

girls as young as 10 are now banned from attending schools and colleges, a new law passed last week states women are forbidden from looking at men they're not related to and banned from being heard in public. sarah spoke to us from an u undisclosed location in afghanistan. >> you're not allowed to go to restaurant or university because they say the best place for women is their home. >> but sarah, a teacher refuses to relent. she found an organization that runs secret schools like this up with. >> we are teaching them english instead of islamic studies. we take actions very conservatively over classes, numbers are significantly low. the number of students are low because we have to let those students to join the class that is are very trustable. >> hello, good morning, guys. >> good morning.

>> the risk, she says is always there because the taliban are always watching. >> their officials and their agents came into our classes and they found english books. they -- they saw us teaching english instead of islamic studies. and they arrested our man cleric. we have to be very carefulful but they have that inspiration and motivation to do something for girls. >> and she decrys the taliban's worked view of her faith. >> i'm a muslim. you can see the paintings behind me. that's a verse and a verse of koran. and i believe in islam. i haven't read in koran any banning on woman's education. what the taliban are not islam, you know, they're not muslim.

and they're just extremists. they're radicallists. >> sarah is not alone in her defiance. online, video surfaced of afghan women defying taliban law and singing in public. the lyrics to this song, you made me a prisoner in my home. the united nations says 2/3 of afghan women suffer from mental health. a stolen future left this woman we're calling roya with dim hopes. >> all of my education become nothing. i cannot use my knowledge, and i can not continue my edge cases. i cannot work in society. >> once an economic student, she's now a teacher for an online school. banned from public life, she was forced to take up sewing

lessons, a permitted activity by the taliban. but she's not abandoning her dreams. >> one of my biggest dreams is that i become independent girl. and i be head of my own campaign. and i never give up for my trying. i try my best to achieve my dreams. >> sarah says secret schools like this are one way to fan the flames of a generation of young girls' dreams. that's why we have to take the risk. it could be a punishment. it could be a -- maybe a death trade.

welsley colleges center for women. you had to flee after afghanistan reclaimed power. but you're in contact with women there. you heard what they had to say about their lives today. what else to you hear from women and girls on the ground? >> i think of the one thing that i really want to highlight is the fact that women and younger still want to go to school. they still want to work. they still want to be -- enjoy going to salons and stu. but the only thing that you hear from them is how supplicating it is. how it's an open air prison and how they're not allowed to do anything but breathe. >> somehow, you found a way to continue to run your schools in secret in afghanistan. not on the scale that you could when you lived there when the taliban weren't in power. what are you able to do? >> rye now we have schools -- right now we have schools in

kandare and heran. we're hoping to expand. we have around 661 students since last we spoke. but the sad reality last week we had to close down or kandare school because of the current surveillance and because of the intelligence reports and how they're being surveilled. so we find ways to work. and we continue to do so. but it is not an easy job. having a school in afghanistan is the toughest thing to. do >> the longer they're in power, it feels they're the most restrictive that the taliban get. what does that mean for the future of your schools? >> the first is that after began women given that we're very resourceful we have to be more innovative. education, healthcare, human rights, women rights, mental health spaces. afghanistan is the country that has the highest rates for women.

it's all of. that but at the same time when we look at it to other countries do immediately need to fight for education instead of just being able to go to school or teach in a school or just go to work just like other muslim countries are allows their own women to do that. so it's two things. but at the same time, i'm also thinking the taliban are not clever enough. they're coming up with weird ways to impose their power. i mean, tell me one single woman who has been in the past three years tell me about women who have been loud about any of the things? i also find it very funny when they come up with these things. it's restricting. it's going to get more restricting. but they're running out of things to ban any more. >> what it comes when it comes to international pressure or u.s. pressure? does anyone that you talk to there on the ground or do you you yourself think that the kind

of pressure that we haven't seen especially in the u.s. can get the taliban to reverse course in anyway? >> as long as it doesn't do anything outside of afghanistan whatever they do that uses anything, it's ok for them. and i think that has been the attitude towards afghanistan so far for the past three years. and it's going to continues because the u.n. literally brought them into exact qatar and talked to them without recognizing and bring that up to women. that has happened. they have offices being recognized in all these countries. so i think the u.s. is complacent in many ways. like they don't want to even -- they're turning up like every time an ambassador is accepted. the u.s. doesn't say anything or do anything. i don't think their engagement will bring any changes either. >> when the taliban came back to power and they threatened you, we should point out which why you were forced to leave and i

know you were reluctant at the time. we've spoken before and since. but when you look at what's happened under taliban rule in the last three years, do you ever think about what it would have meant if you stayed? what would have happened? >> i -- this morning there was -- one of my friends posted this and it said imagine another time where we didn't leave home and it was all beautiful sceneries in the national flag of afghanistan. i thought imagine if we would have all stayed but the taliban not in power. afghanistan could have been a different place. but if we all have stayed would we have made out? would be doing all the things that we do right now? would i be running schools or begging for documentation in the neighboring countries? would i even be alive? all of those things. it's hard to imagine but it takes a toll on you. >> founder of learn afghanistan currently at wellsley college

centers for women. good to speak with you. thank you. ♪ geoff: vice president harris sits down for her first interview since launching her presidential campaign as former president donald trump tries to change the narrative on abortion access. we turn tonight to brooks and ate atkins store. jonathan capehart is away this evening. it's great to see you both. so it would appear that donald trump is having trouble stake out a consistent stance on abortion access and reproductive rights. just yet in an interview with nbc news he slammed florida's six-week abortion ban saying it's too short. he said i want more weeks. that was a direct quote. today, he tells fox news that he's going to vote to uphold

that same ban when it comes for a ballot -- vote as a ballot measure come november. he's struggling to find an answer for this environment that he's created. >> yeah, well, donald trump has two principles here. one is the republican party is pro-life. and two, it's not a good way to get elected president. and so he seems to be toggling between the two. and if i were him i would stick to the pro-life position. you know, he apointed the judges that did dobbs. he's effectively a pro-life person. his party is a pro-life party. he can't help it because he wants to position more favorly he shifts but this is the first time when he shifted saying six weeks is too short or trying to push the republican party in a pro-choice position. this is the first time social conservatives furious and putting tremendous pressure to not do this. but this time they were really

mad. geoff: what about that, kim kimberly? kimberly: we've seen since the election since dobbs was handed down that every time an abortion access question was on the ballot, the abortion access wins. and we have not just in florida, but in some 40 other states, some measure on november's ballot that's going to be about abortion access. and if you have donald trump saying oh, i think this is a problem, it's going to do a lot of damage to the conservative that is are pushing those matters. so you're thinking thinking about his own hide and clearly talking to somebody and trying to hold that back. but it goes back to what he said which is leave it to the states. he was telling states it was too short. so he's struggling his lane here. >> he's talking about access to i.v.f. because in that same interview, saying that if he's recollected his administration would not

only protect i.v.f. but have the government or insurance companies cover the cost. take a listen. >> under the trump administration we are going to be paying for that treatment. so we are paying for that treatment -- >> >> all american who is want it? >> all americans that get it and all americans who need it. >> neither he nor his company have offered any specifics about how this would work or how you pay for it? i.v.f. is not cheep. it's roughly $20,000. >> what's he trying to accomplish here? >> get elected. he tweeted out a couple -- truth socials out saying women will have complete reproductive freedom under his administration. on the i.v.f. issue that's an issue where americans are more supportive. he's a salesman. and he's trying to sale himself. he will say whatever will help you buy. he's lost the salesman mode.

>> is this a gift to the harrison campaign? >> when he po po posted that reproductive healthcare -- when did he do that? he did that on thursday after kamala harris gave her acceptance speech and made that a central theme in her campaign protecting reproductive choice for women. so what he's doing -- well, he's lying first of all because he has worked throughout his tenure to vowing to repeal obamacare. tried to do that. never put forth replacement plan for what would replace obamacare. and now suddenly he's talking about mandates. he's trying with all of his might to say anything. he's throwing spaghetti at the wall or ketchup at the wall in an effort to try not have this be the torpedo of this campaign. >> let's talk about that cnn interview with kamala harris and his running mate tim walz. it's evidence that the vice president is trying to establish

herself as the change candidate even as she's the sitting vice president trying to make this election a referendum on donald trump. she said last night that the country is ready to turn the page. >> i think that people are ready for a new way forward in a way that generations of americans have been fueled by -- by hope and by optimism. i think sadly in the last decade we have had in the former president someone who has really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as americans. really dividing our nation and i think people are ready to turn the page on that. geoff: so what about that, david? can she have it that way be a change candidate while serving as vice president. >> first of all, she did a very

creditable job. could someone look at could she be president, i think she passed. she was in control. i think she's right to -- to drop all her 2019 positions basically. she should just do that ruthlessly. i'm personally glad to see her move toward the center. obama did it. george w. bush did it. and it's a gesture toward the center. as for the changes i do think there's peril here. it's a tradition. a lot of vice predents run -- sitting vice president run for president. that happens a lot in person history. most of them lose because they're not willing to break with the current administration. if you want to be a change agent you can say there has to be a substance to it. it's not a change. and so i think eventually she has to show some substantive change and not rhetorical change. >> think it's a little

different. vice presidents have not done well when they run for president. but that's often after eight years of the other president running. this is after four. this is with a lot of people who i've spoken to who were relieve because they voted for joe biden thinking that he was a transitional president and were freaked out by the idea of him not. and so now they are encouraged no by not just kamala harris but the energy that her candidacy has created with democrat who is say they haven't felt this since obama, right? this really being change. so it is a change. she does have position. she is taking position that is are didn't from the president's even in centering reproductive rights in the way that she has and really taking on the issue of immigration as much as she can in five weeks that has allowed her. i think that is a change. we've been reintroduced by donald trump after being able to forget about.

about him a little bit. that makes this needle she's the leading between change andic couple pansy tough but she seems to be hitting it right on the mark. geoff: she was asked to explain her shifting policy stance on matters like the green new deal, medicare for all, her position against fracking. those were at the time big progressive measures. here's how she explained herself. >> in 2019, you said "there is no question, i'm in favor of banning fracking." do you still want to ban fracking? >> no. and i made that clear on the debate stage in 2020. >> what made you change that position at the time? >> well, let's be clear, my values have not changed. what i have seen is that we can -- we can grow and increase a thriving clean energy economy without banning fracking. >> that line, my values have not changed even though her stance on policy has changed. >> opportunistic in 2019 and

opportunistic now. the democratic moved left in a way that was suicidal decriminalizing the border, defunding the police, the ban on fracking. it wasn't just her, it was all sorts of people on that debate stage. there were 20 people running that year. jim clyburn said no, we can't be there. and nancy posi said joe biden it became a political option for her to go back toward the center, talk about being a prosecute or, she went that way. so she's not the only opportunist to be a politician. but it was opportunist. >> in the time that remains, i want to put a mark, the u.s. army issue ago stark review over this incident at arlington national cemetery. the army said in a rare statement the company was made aware of federal laws prohibiting political activity at the cemetery. and they confirm the reporting that a campaign trump staff

pushed a female employee who according to the times didn't want to press charges because she was afraid of retaliation from trump supporters. kimberly your thought on all this. kimberly: there was a way that being disrespective at arlington cemetery would have put an end to a political career. but we have seen donald trump time and time again disparage members of the military, gold star families. and so this seems par for the course i would love to return to a time where people would look at this and in a bipartisan way and nonpartisan say this is absolutely outrageous. he's not an official. he is a civilian. he had no business trying to shoot a -- a video -- a campaign video that would have knocked kamala harris for not being there. i mean, it's really one of the lowest political moment that is i've seen in my 20-plus years in covering politics. >> lost political trump moment i've seen in the last 48 hours.

you know, within of the things that strikes me obviously is to transgress arlington is a serious thing. but one of the things that strikes me is will it have a political effect? and the answer is no. that's partly because people used -- they like trump. but partly because it's the change in our politics. when george h.w. bush ran, he went into his convention 17 points down. he went on to win. that's when you can have these big public swings, that's no longer the case. geoff: it's great to see you both. have a great labor day weekend. >> you too. ♪ >> since it's founding in 2010, the afghanistan institute of music has provided a unique

education and music training to afghan children. back in 2013, the group made a try am fant visit to the u.s. three years after the taliban retook control of afghanistan. they returned amid a completely changed world. senior arts course upon dent jeffery brown reports for our arts and culture series "canvas." ♪ >> a recent evening at washington, d.c. ' kennedy center for the for forming arts. young musicians from afghanistan age 14 to 22 joined by members of the d.c. youth orchestra playing a mix of western and traditional afghan music. ♪ >> joyful sounds, a hugely appreciative audience. but never far off says the founder of the afghanistan national institutes of music

ahmad sarmost a sense of grief and pain. >> we come here to let the world know that afghanistan is today a silent nation a. silent nation? >> yes. because afghanistan is the only country today in the world where its people are denied all their music -- >> from its founding in 2010 until the taliban regained power and reimposed its ban on music and a crack down on women and girls, the institute offered afghan children a free secular, co-educational curriculum and musical training. the only such school in the country. >> afghanistan instituting music back is called the happiest place in afghanistan. >> students studied violin, cello and other western classical instruments. also ruvav sitom from the afghan

tradition. >> there are two things that encouraged them to learn their own music to show them that the after began instrument is capable to be used in any context. we wanted the world to know that afghanistan is committed to musical and cultural diversity. ♪ >> from afghanistan's ethical population 20 year-old girls who's childhood experience was common for girls with parents desperate to find a path to a better life. >> i don't want to be grow up my girls like other girls that they're thinking, oh, when i grow up, i have to cook. i have to make a baby like those things. because of that, she sent me to the orphanage to grow up here. >> and now the percussionist

from ja la bad. >> we're from different cities but we come together and we play together. so that's why we say music has power to bring people together. ♪ >> among the boys, 16 year-old samir akbari from kandahar who fell in love with the vie yoela. it was a new instrument but also a very new experience >> everyone was the same class boys and girls. they were eating together, playing together, making music together. ♪ >> soon, ensembles were formed. first the afghan youth orchestra. sarmost took a tour to the u.s. in 2013. >> we apted to show to the world that how far they have moved after the taliban regime has

been ousted in afghanistan. >> then crucially the zoro women's orchestrate. >> i think the men -- orchestra. >> i think that girl can do without taking help from them. they can do everything. >> they can do anything without the men? >> yeah. >> and they can make music to? >> yeah, of course. they can do everything. >> but on august 15, 2021, everything changed. >> i went to my school. there's a lot of people running and they said that taliban is now in kabul. they -- they're in kabul. go to your home. >> within hours, the invading taliban targeted the school burning books and destroying instruments. a week later, the ransacked buildings were turned into a taliban barracks. >> even to the safe house -- we

went to the safe house. and we were there for one month. i couldn't see outside. it was too hard for me i had a hard depression. >> after several months in hiding, he negotiated theer evacuation of students and staff most leaving family behind. first to qatar. then to portugal where it has been based since. first in lisbon and now in brahmin. there the musical director began working with them. he knew nothing about afghanistan but was completely transformed at the firster meeting. >> i first cried because it's so special to be around them. >> you started to cry? >> yeah, yeah. it was really, i don't know. it was too much. because you see people were like suffering a lot in a different country in a very difficult situation.

but they found through music something that could make them happy. >> happy, yes, but also says shagufa safey a deep sadness. >> my father said you're a musician. you're a girl. there's no future in afghanistan for you. but i accept that. and i left afghanistan first of all to do my own life and save the music of afghanistan. >> with the world's attention turned elsewhere, that focus on preservation is an even more urgent goal of the musicians. >> for all these speeches and the interviews and publicity and media publicity that goes around, it helps to bring back afghanistan today. -- in the community. >> it was a message they brought this time to carnegie hall in new york and to the kennedy center where they were joined

joined on stage by intern internationally renowned american soprano and longtime supporter rene flemming. >> i know you're having a wonderful time because i was in the audience listening too. you sound fantastic. >> and fay they per formed from an audience that ex-highed from the afghan community >> i feel really, really good that they support us and clap for us. it's a symbol of hope. >> he's now working bring several hundred family members to portugal including younger siblings he hopes will take up instruments and keep the music alive. ♪ >> for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffery brown at the kennedy center for the performing arts in washington, d.c. ♪

amna: well, be sure to tune into "washington week" with the atlantic tonight. geoff: and par olympic wheelchair winner hannah mcfadden on making history. that's the "newshour." i'm geoff bennett. amna: and i'm amna nawaz. thank you for joining us. and have a great weekend. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by -- >> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of the "newshour" including kathy and paul anderson. and camilla and georg smith. the wallton family foundation working for solutions to protect water during climate change so people and nature can thrive together. >> the william and flowa hewlett

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