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so often felt hopeless. so we wrap things up, as we always do on this show with music. this song is from my all time favorite artist, bruce springsteen. here is the risin, which is about rising up to new heights after what once felt like a knockout blow. thank you all for watching this show is thank you all. thank you for what you do. thanks for the inspiration. we'll see you all next week. polarizer. the night. la la la la la la la la la la la la l ♪ >> shannon: i'm shannon bream, is milling to remove him -- americans joy this -- enjoy this memorial day weekend and remember those who paid the ultimate price, president biden president trump give their competing views on the role of the us military.
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>> thanks to the us armed forces we're doing only what america can do. as an indispensable nation, the world only superpower. >> he believes the job of the nine states military is not to wage and this regime change wars around the globe senseless war. >> feet on the campaign trail as they are dominated by finger-pointing over a second veiled border voting congress. the increasing isolation of israel as the war in gaza drags on and bipartisan angering congress how they have handled student protest. >> taxpayer dollars have no business finding universities without principles that align with the principles of this country. >> we will talk with two members of congress the member of house oversight and jared moskowitz on house foreign affairs. then... >> there is no evidence. >> the new york jury in the hush money case begins deliberations
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this week. are panels on verdict watching also looks ahead to the hunter biting gun trial. and... >> did you ever send information related to covid-19 to doctor fauci's personal view? >> eight are fight did i might have. >> a former top advisor grilling congress over allegations he may have tried to hide and potential destroy smoking gun records on the origins of covid. our panel breaks down what it means for americans faith in our institutions. all this week on -- all this week on fox news sunday. ♪ >> hello from what fox news and washington. headlines, a tornado touched down across the interstate causing damage to homes, power lines, entries. part of the severe storms that went through texas, oklahoma, and kansas killing at least five people. in taiwan a bipartisan us
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delegation of house members has landed to meet the island's new president. it comes to days after china held wargames in the taiwan strait which the state department is calling deeply concerning. in the middle east, thomas says they fired a series of rockets at tel aviv this morning and they are his reports of rocket sirens in central israel for of casualties or damage. in a moment we will talk with the congressman and byron donald's,'s first return to the fox news correspondent at the white house covering the latest on the 2024 presidential race, hi mark. >> hello shannon. president biden this week returned to the campaign trail key will be in the battleground state of pennsylvania showing still locked in a very tight race with former president trump who's making an overt effort to win over black voters who body needs in november. ♪
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>> speaking at the military commencement by the and said you would continue the military and economic support for ukraine even as the war with russia stretches on for more than two years. >> betting against the men that i have known well for many years. brutal tyrant. we may and will not walk away. >> be here at home the political future remains uncertain. university poll finds voters are split with biden leading for president trump by only one, 4018 47% to well the margin of error. trump, the presumptive republican nominee spent saturday night courting libertarians. >> i'm asking for the libertarians party endorsement or at least lots of your votes. >> recent events shows campaigns going effort to win over minority voters. >> doesn't matter weather you are black or brown or weights or whatever the hell colour you are, it doesn't matter. >> the body campaign says they
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are determined to hold onto black support last week the president adjusting graduates at morehouse college. >> starting at colleges as george floyd was murdered. there was a reckoning on race. it's natural to wonder, democracy if you hear about if it actually works for you. >> his tone was far different from president obama's address 11 years earlier. >> you are uniquely poised for success unlike any generation of african-americans that came before. >> the body campaign was also recently dealt a blow after the former um ambassador nikki haley, a vocal critic of donald trump came out to say she will support trump over biden who she called a catastrophe. the biden campaign had been making very public attempt to try and win over her supporters. >> shannon: i before in policy question as well, the issue of israel, the bye demonstration, what are they saying about the pushback on the icc and the
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warrants issued, not only against the leaders of hamas was really leaders as well? >> they have been quite outspoken, the president has been calling for the arrest warrants for the israeli leaders outrageous and how the ministration is even say they have poked -- been open to possibly sanctioning the icc down the line. >> shannon: reporting for the white house, thank you very much. joining us is the 40 democratic minister, will québec congressman! >> thank you for having me shannon. >> i want to start with the icc. you have called these weren't outrageous, you have condemned them as the white house as well. you heard mark they're talking about the potential sanctions. and onto the truck administration icc officials were sanctioned and there was restrictions on the phone numbers for the visas and even a counter investigation into alleged corruption. president biden lifted those, should he have left those in place? >> obviously, hindsight is trying 20 we are here where we are today. i'm for putting sanctions back
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in place, i am for congress asked -- acting in a bipartisan basis. let state facts here. when asad killed 300,000 civilian using chemical weapons if you recall which was a redline for this country to the icc go after them? no, they didn't because they said syria was not a party to the icc. people have asked them to look at the human rights violation in china, have begun after china? no. the icc has specifically said china is not a party to the icc. but is israel a party to the icc? they are knots and yet they are now going after israel. this is totally political. they have no jurisdiction we might as well call them the harry potter and ministry of magic. they are relevant because israel is not a party to their treaty. so this is pressure unfortunately from the international community that wants to see no more israel. they are using the icc to go ahead and do this and i think they need to respond in a strongly partisan way which is
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why you were seeing democrats and republicans in the house and the senate and the biden ministration coming together hopefully we will get this done when we come back from break. >> there is lot waiting for you as you know when you come back when the most recent bills you struggled with with your votes is ultimately voting for this bill in the house that would force the white house essentially to hand over all the weapons and up and approved in a bell the president himself signed you had concerns with the bill but the president has talked about withholding certain things from israel. you will ultimately, 16 democrats and you were among them you decide to vote for this bill. where do you think there has been daylight, or are you worried there is someone in your party maybe even the white house a descendent confusing or mixed messages not only to israel but to its enemies as well? >> the reason i was concerned about this bill is there was issues and their beyond israel potentially with all the administrations in the future. on this issue, on israel, my biggest problem is wright now
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the reason there is no cease-fire is because of hamas. period, stop right there. there is no other conversation. hamas will not agree to one. we need more pressure on hamas, not less. any time there's any delay between the united sates in israel, hamas has a reason to not come to the table and agree to a cease-fire. we also reports unfortunately that israel agreed to the terms between the united states yet the egyptians might have changed some of the terms in favour of hamas on forsling right now the cease-fire conversations are an absolute complete mass but make no mistake about it, the reason why there is an operation is because hamas is not agreed to a temporary cease-fire to release the hostages. >> we want with this as well. officials along with many in the cutie are worried about getting eight into the people, the civilians in gaza. there is trouble for that. they are already saying the pentagon is seeing a logistical
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nightmare we're getting worried that four ships that were attached to the pier have become on more in bad weather and two of them were running aground on a nearby beach. the new york times adding little relief has reached palestinians in the strip. several trucks were looted as they made their way to a warehouse in the world food program on tuesday warned that the project could show if israel does not do more for the safe distribution of eight. you and i talked about this. they were threatening to kill people and yet the onus saws on them to get it done. what could they be doing with highways and checkpoints to get to the civilians? >> israel right? none of the problems on getting eight have anything to do with the fact that the un is having issues getting the aid around because it's an unsecure area because hamas is attacking the
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eight. where is the pressure on egypt to get aid and more eight through the crossing. we saw the state department announced they are trying to get the egyptians to get more aid to the crossing. so it's always israel right? the reason weathers no humanitarian aid is it unsafe and hamas attacking the convoys because they want to steal the aid. that occur with the people. they are worth billions of dollars they invent with the product know, they stole this money from the palestinian people and they buried themselves underground while they left all their civilians exposed in a war that hamas started. okay? it's no different with the humanitarian aid. israel is doing what they can obviously without putting their soldiers in harm's way to get this aid to the palestinian people. it's very important we do this. there is innocent civilians there. women and children we need to make sure we do get aid because you need to make sure we don't have a famine but we need the un
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in egypt to do more. >> you have been somewhat critical of the president's position on the border and some of these foreign-policy issues as well the recent polling shows americans agree with you they give the edge to president trump on immigration and the economy and on crime foreign policy. they are tough swing state polls this week as well and nate silver, or the top holsters said if you're still struggling with this by august they should consider leaving the tickets, is this conversation worth having if your goal is to make sure president trump does not get back to the white house? >> no, it's not conversation worth having. this is ridiculous. we are well past the conversation you know. president biden's going to be the nominee, we will have our convention and he will win in november. this will be between two people right? either the whale of the election is you want from backward do you not? that is the crux of the issue i thing that to people ask themselves is do you want
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president trump backward do you not want him back? that will depend on what is important to each solitary person. if you are for a woman's right to choose you will not be voting for president trump. if they wanted the rights to contraception, they will not be voting president trump. on immigration i think both parties are to blame a what is going on democrats i've said this before, they were late to come to the table and when we came to the table and got a bipartisan agreement with a conservative bill coming out of the senates then republicans walked away because trump wants to use it in the election right? he said blame me. so at the end of the day, the election is very close and we are kind of a half time now. we will get all the summer and all of a sudden will be september and october as we go into the election and people will look at what is the state of the economy at that moment and how they feel about the country. but it is down to a couple states. >> right now they are not feeling about the economy but we appreciate your time, thank you for dropping in. >> thank you shannon.
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>> fellow florida congressman byron donald's, welcome back on me just start there and let you get a chance to answer back. trump says he does not want to touch contraception but all these other questions and arguments congressman says if you care about these things you cannot vote for your party? >> first of all my colleague is just simply wrong. we don't trump did when he was president of the united states is he did change the supreme court, they did overturn roe be weighed which was the right decision but now it's left to the states. so president trump has been asked this question multiple times and he does not want to wave from the federal level, you want the states to make decisions for themselves because every state's different. every group of citizens in each state they have different philosophies. when it comes to summing as personal as abortion, at this point the president's position is the philosophies of people in the state's needs to be what governs, not federal laws and definitely not the supreme court.
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with contraception that's just a plea not true. you want to be able to have people and have them be able to take advantage of this and use them and personal lives. >> we talked with the border little bit. he said both parties take blame for not getting something done. there was a bill offered up this week in the senate and everyone or just what everyone said it was kind of a show and was not going to go anywhere. but it provides this talking points saying that the congressional republicans do not care about securing the border or fixing the broken immigration system he says he would've voted for it if you did, they put partisan politics ahead of the country's national security. republicans under president trump did control the house and senate. if you run the table and all those things align again,'s promises or plans could you offer to the american people about republicans fixing the border? >> a couple things. trump had the border secured when he was president of the united states, when joe biden came in the first thing he did
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was rip up the border policy simply because they are put in place by donald trump. it was a very stupid decision by joe biden the country has suffered as a result. so now what we are going to do is go back to ending catch and release and go back to remain in mexico. we will have to deport millions of people who should not be here because our cities and states simply cannot handle the flow of all these illegal migrants. may have people going in trying to breed quant -- breach quantico under joe biden you saw what happened on the southern border in california where they were trying to scale the wall in california get over that wall there. to a president trump is going to do is put back the policies that she had a country secure and we will deport millions of people and it needs to be done. then in congress, a policy like hr two, if you have the votes in the house and the senate, we are going to move large part to this to become federal law which gives the president more authorities to secure the nation. >> we will wait and see, that result in november have
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everything to do with these plans, let's talk about this, president trump is taking his argument to nontraditional places this week, you are part of his trip into the bronx. he has people who love that idea and those who hate the idea but you were there with him on stage and it reignited a conversation you and i have had previously on the show about racing critics who say republicans are using black and brown people there is one news personality out there who says you are being used as a prop. here is joy reed. >> the one black guy that republicans love to roll out as fake proof that black people are maga. it's a joke. they were knocking to make him speak of the house. >> you think she's making a
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statement about republicans are about you? >> first of all i find her comment to be nothing more than grabs in a -- grabs in a barrel. just because of a different way of looking at the white world in politics i'm now being used? you can make an argument that msnbc is using her. the rally in the bronx was amazing at a very diverse crowd of people from the bronx puerto ricans, dominicans, black people, white people, all are supporting president trump because they have seen the disaster that is new york city, they have seen the disaster that has become the nicest america because of the master of disaster joe biden himself and they want donald trump back. this would be a decision for the mayor can peel between two did the better job and it's without question donald trump that was a significantly better president on every metric and that's what he has support in the bronx and that's why when the president want -- went to minnesota he had
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supported minnesota and there's more support and a lot of blue areas that is for president trump coming back. we're looking at expanding the political map not shrinking it based upon race or anything else because that's what joy breeden joe biden and the rest of them want to do. they want to shrink this map based upon racial lines. is not what president trump's focus is. 's focus is on all of america. >> that sound like someone who could join him on the ticket and be out there campaigning in making this conversation and argument. when i first interviewed you in 2021 you are brand-new congressmen and clearly you had campaigned on approach trump agenda and you were pro- trump but, as with anyone on the vp shortlist i like to ask about the fact that you add some point had not been a huge trump fan or you had reservations you said he was a self promoter, you're glad he wasn't running against president obama years before but i think it's important to ask where your evolution happens. especially if you are on the ticket you'll be out there
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trying make the argument other people who might be sceptical about president trump and they want to know what your evolution on him was. >> i'm glad you bring this up, we are trying what is probably facebook messages from 2012 and 2015, where yes, i did have scepticism. would you have an opportunity to watch the 2016 campaign unfold and see don't trump's positions on the campaign trail against hillary clinton, thank god he beat hillary clinton, the country is better off for it and then you saw him do the job. i will tell you myself like, like sunni americans have seen don't trump president and now they've seen the country without donald trump as president and they want to go back to the years of 2017 and 2018 and 2019. our country was significantly better on every metric. joe biden and the crazy left will bring out covid-19, but listen, covid would have been a terrible -- terrible for any president to get through and don't trump still did a great job getting us through covid."
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told him this -- tell you this. if you look at anyone starting 2015 you probably had some sceptics, no doubt about that. but there is no scepticism when you look at the job he did as commander-in-chief, the world was less safe -- this world was safer, no new wars, everyone was getting ahead. it's not the case today. >> shannon: okay. you folks at their home of heard both sides of the argument, we thank you for years congressman and we will see you again soon. president trump's criminal trial is coming to an end, closing charles will go tuesday in the jury could had a verdict out as early as this week. we are here with predictions next. as we take time through this memorial day weekend in our show to remember the fallen. including a look at them moving world war ii memorial which just happens to be my favourite here in washington. ♪
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♪ >> shannon: the first kernel case against former president donald trump is coming to an end. tuesday the defence and prosecution may their closing arguments to the 18 jurors that include six alternate to could be asked to step in and for the 12 primary jurors is disqualified are otherwise unable to serve out their commitment. falling those summations, the judge will give the jury instructions telling them what the law means and how they are to interpret and apply it to prospective all the charges against president trump. in the end they will have to decide if the form president falsified business records with the payoff facilitated by the one-time fixture an attorney michael cohen and then falsify those records with the intent to cover up a separate crime.
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how will this work? let's bring in the fox news contribute or, former assistant us attorney for the southern district of new york. and the former south carolina congressman and sunday night in america betrayed gaudi on the fox news channel, gentlemen, welcome i'm happy to have the brain trust of the former prosecutors with us to help break this all down. okay, all of us have taken turns attending the trial will be back there this week, i want to read the analysis of a couple folks were thank you could argue how they see the trial. from the first day of testimony, this is hairy with the los angeles times, the prosecution is presented a tight persuasive tail. the prosecution's cross-examination of costello it was crisp and clear in textbook demolitions of the defences points going into the final act i like the chances he will be found guilty. lawrence, heavil-- having closing followed this to deceive voters in the making him president, i'm convinced he is guilty as charged with the during altercation i think
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you'll be a convicted felon soon after memorial day. andy, as it's played out to the decisions that have been made in the rulings thus far, what do you think? >> well it is the story, is just not a that violates the law. but i think to the extent that those left of centre legal commentators how are are predicting a conviction, they maybe right because of the way the case has been pitched to the jury. it's one thing for us to be here pronouncing the various legal laws are and there's a author of them, which of the try and see the case that weigh the jury is seeing it. and in this instance i think the jury is seeing it through the lens showed the judge who has been very indulgent of the prosecution's dodgy theories here. and i can said here and poke holes in them all day. does make a difference because we are not there speaking to the jury. >> yes, it comes down to them
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and what's important is the jury instructions it's kinda wonky last week as they're hammering it out but we all know that these are critical when you put together a case then you go to the jury, here is what the law professor says is proper jury instructions will look at the separate legal elements of the crime that must be proven for a conviction. improper jury instructions will go over the legal issues and make it more likely that a jury who might not like the defendants will convict. so what do you make of the back and forth we had over the instructions and what do they give the jury by way of making a decision? >> i'm a little bit of a minority here. i've gone to a hundred different judges giving jury instruction and half the time he didn't know it here she were talking about. they are incredibly complicated, lawyers have a hard time following them. i know is to lawyers on the jury but usually there is no lawyers on a jury. i think what jurors usually do is they go with their common sense. they go with their intuition.
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and those i committed this crime. i will say this to andy's point, the jury identifies with the judge. i don't want to say it stockholm syndrome, but it's a little bit like that because they were at the back and the call the judge and the judge protects them and feeds them, a look at this trial through the prism of the judge's eyes. and look, i've had some prosecution judges in my life but i've never seen a judge like this. he essentially walked in and asked the defence are you ready and then he looked at the proof -- prosecution said are we ready. i was in the courtroom twice! two days and that's what i felt like is he was a member of the prosecution team! >> while he says this, to find trump guilty of a falsification of business documents the jury must unanimously find that trump falsify the documents in order to commit or steal a separate crime, with jurors do not have to agree on what that separate crime was according to the way
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the judge ruled so andy, i'm not sure i fully understood and articulation for the prosecution about what the underlying crime is? >> that's exactly right. your question before shannon about the jury instructions, i agree with trey that very often they are very dense to follow but usually it's not a problem because by the time you get to the end of the case, everybody knows what has to be proved and what the jury will be tolled. here, we finally are getting something in the way of telling us exactly what the charge is at the end of the case really we still don't have a copy of the jury instructions, with the notion that the jury can convict by agreeing to various items on a menu and they don't have to be unanimous about what that last item is, which we think is some variation of a federal campaign finance violation which they
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don't have the authority to enforce, but i think the notion that they don't have to be unanimous on it might be the 12th reason why this case should be thrown out. >> shannon: and quickly trey, if there is a holdout or two we'll the judge's on them back? what is an allen charge,'s that come into play here do you think? >> it's essentially go back and i'm going to keep you held hostage until you reach a verdict. they are actually frowned upon now we have what is called a modified allen charge, but look, no one wants to spend weeks and months and get a hung jury so the judge will say go back and reconsider your position but i haven't seen alan charges work that often and my prediction is a hung jury for some of the reasons andy laid out. i still don't know what that other crime is. so how can you defend yourself if you don't know what the other crime is? >> shannon: well it will soon be in the hands of a jury. to interesting pieces diving and breaking into the minutia of
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this case and trey, we will see you tonight! thank you both! >> yes, ma'am,, thank you. >> shannon: up next, last night trump with voters at the libertarian convention, he wants to persuade them to support him in november but some of them appeared unconvinced. we will bring in our panel onto the nontraditional sweating -- settings four days this week but first when the pentagon, thousand the motorcyclists are assembling to remember america's military heroes. particularly those missing in action or prisoners of war. ruling to remember, soon in the streets of dc on this memorial streets of dc on this memorial day weekend.
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>> from the very first day we take back the white house, i believe we are going to have the four greatest years of the history of our country. >> the guy running against once all the prospects and crop -- progress we made. >> with contrasting visions on the campaign trail. time for the group with the political reporter. the editor and chief former obama policy advisor and the media critic and host of the media buzz on the fox news
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channel. good to see you all in memorial day weekend. thank you for coming in, president trump is getting a lot of attention -- attention for the space is not just the bronx but the convention and if you see there was little bit of an undercurrent if not that full agreement. i wouldn't say flat out but definitely some backlashes on the things he said. how is his willingness playing? >> the mere fact he went there, he's not going to win new york city. he will not win new york state but he sends a message with urban decay in the south bronx that he cares with the minority voters. it surprised a lot of people said he was going to rebuild new york city with a college speech that kind of played on the politics of victimhood and they said what is the democracy killed on the street and what's the democracy if you have to be
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ten times better than anyone else to have a fair shot? this is a guy who served on the nation's first black president. >> the new york post really did that too. they say biden street -- speech wasn't victimhood saying that they always will be a racist nation and trump's pitching opportunity of a better life and people don't just want a litany of what's wrong they want to know how you will improve the lives and they said that's what his matches was. >> was striking to compare the speeches that happen to be during the same week and it really does explain why president trump is getting so much more of the black and brown vote than other republicans are. his messages one of opportunity focus on an economic opportunity and saying no matter what your skin colour is a shallot was a dark divisive racial grievance speech. with how dark it was it has been working really well for them.
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>> with how president trump went they showed six to 5% hispanic and probably about 31% of black residents in that area. but what we heard from a lot of them as they are concerned about what everyone is concerned about, the economy and providing for the kids in the future and all those things. economy is one place the polling continues to be very tough or president biden. but the new york times tells us that the economy is not actually bad, in fact it's in remarkably good shape but somehow there is a pervasive sense the economy is bad and in that sense in the economic railyard and personal experiences what's hurting biden's campaign. had they feel about in the white house because they feel he doesn't get credit for the good things that happen. >> biden sympathizers are frustrate by the fact they feel they have seen the economy starting to improve and starting to see some of these numbers they point to the job growth, they see it as an improving that it's not as bad as it was a
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couple years ago. and they want more credit for that but the reality is, when it comes to how people view the economy, inflation is the biggest indicator and people feel they are spending more than they used to and this will be a huge issue for biden, summing he will have to overcome before november because you look at the fast food prices they've covered this and that's a huge issue for biden, when it comes to working class americans, they feel their money is not going as far under biden, and you know, they don't care as much about the big economic trends, they carritt being able to buy fast food for the kids, go out on a sunday afternoon. >> that's true. here is foxbusiness newly 80% of americans now consider fast were the luxury due to the high prices in our fox news polls says is this a prom for your family? so this gets the question if there is a perception the country is having trouble versus you are acting having trouble, grocery prices, a 9% of people in this poll says its a prom for them. followed by the gas prices with 84 percent you can go through
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the whole list there. we can talk foreign policy, that your specialty but you know people go to vote, someone said it's the economy. >> i agree, the economy is good and it's been good the entire biden term. >> weight, 9% inflation. >> inflation has come down. >> okay but you can't say its good the entire time of its 9%. >> also agree with paul that people don't think it's good. president biden has six months to make the case that is actually better than people think and he will have to be able to do that in order to win. i'll think it's a big deal people aren't able to go to fast food, i think it's a big deal or grocery prices are high and that's impacting them. but you know, biden's recent visit he was at west point yesterday talking about foreign-policy and i think foreign-policy is more important in this campaign that has been in any recent presidential election because at the end of this campaign, people will be looking for instance of ukraine they have trump that says he
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will end the war in ukraine and will not provide support to ukraine and president biden needs to be at -- is a steadfast supporter of ukraine. also have trouble with china will see a big comparison between biden and trump on who is tougher with china. >> that's bad news for trumpet with how chaotic things are but you reference shannon that famous line for the bill clinton campaign its the economy stupid james carville who came up with that said democrats will not win with this strategy which is you are stupid for caring about this. >> he also said recently as we've talked about with looking at the bottom polling numbers it was like seeing your grandma naked it was scary and you can forget it. [ laughter ] i credit him for that not me. >> joe biden is harley the first president to use federal goodies to try and buy votes. what is particularly egregious is this forgiving student debt because courts have blocked it and he found a legal workaround but it doesn't do anything people that didn't go to college or people who have already repaid their student debt.
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>> still get that economic question. more the panel put up next week congressional showdown, a top adviser to doctor anthony fauci confronted with e-mails that appear to show him talking about getting around the freedom of information act in hiding key indications in the heat of the battle to find out what led to the covid pandemic -- pandemic. and then images of the fleet in new york harbour, thousands of sailors, marines and coast guard members in the big apple this holiday weekend. ♪
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don't miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! >> government -- government officials hiding from we the people is not the american way. >> want to take the fifth amendment? you just don't seem to remember anything. i find that amazing. >> are public and congressmen and democratic congressman during a fiery house hearing on wednesday. lawmakers grilling doctor david morris. you saw him there he's a former top advisor to anthony fauci after releasing several of his e-mails that seem to reveal alarming covid era communications. we're back now with the panel. that's what a couple of these up to people know what we are talking about here. one of the e-mails comes from his gmail and it says we had to be careful, i learned from our
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foil lady, freedom of information act, how to make e-mails disappear after i've done this up before the search start so i think we are all safe, plus i deleted most of those earlier e-mails after sending them to gmail. here's another e-mail from him produced by the house committee saying this, i learn the tricks last year from an old friend who heads our office and also hates them. so the person who's most make you comply with transparent key indications, going to these e-mails looks like was telling how to get around it. >> definitely looks about from these e-mails would show sort of what a permanent unelected bureaucracy can do to control information in these really control so much of what happens here. but it's also where we don't forget what the e-mails were about. they were about how we were funding some of the work that was happening in china that related to covid in suppressing any discussion of the origins of covid. that is a very serious issue!
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the delays we have had in getting the full information we -- meaning we cannot hold china fully accountable and it really showed here and some of these e-mails come no behaviour by some of our own people. >> and how concerned are you david about the national security and formulations indication of china and beyond! >> yes first wallace was shameful. that's a federal act you could be convicted of a crime for violating this and he's just speaking openly about how he's going around this. but i also agree with molly that the substance of what he was potentially hiding is about whether china reacted appropriately when it discovered the virus and weather china is at fault for safety measures in this lab. i don't think covid is going to be on the ballot in 2024. however,, i do think that one thing that remains in american people deserve to know is weather china acted appropriately, and if they didn't that needs to be disclosed for everyone so china doesn't do this in the future.
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>> and i think the american funding stream part of the question is what people would like to know about as well. i like to play the doctor after he was confronted with these e-mails, it was his explanations. >> some of the most obscene you will have provided look pretty incriminating, i don't know what they are, and i remember them, but, yes,, it looks like i made a mistake on more than one occasion. but certainly was not my intention to do that. >> so with the question of intention looks like he is saying this is how we get around this or someone tout -- tell me how to do it. >> yes nessman who has some of these requests as a journalist at the very frustrating process and it takes a very long time and it's hard to believe that these agencies are actually following the rules and providing information you want to in some ways rings of these e-mails it was kind of confirming to me that yes, they don't always take this seriously and there are ways to get around this and it is frustrating. i think seeing both republicans and democrats really criticized over these e-mails was notable. we so rarely see that bipartisan agreement on issues like this.
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so this is a serious thing. it's about subject matter and also just the fact that this exists to allow journalists and the public to understand how the government is working and this is clear evidence, it appears very clear, that they are at least joe -- joking about getting around it which is also not appropriate and potentially actually preventing information. >> 's any bus to have tomato request and you came back in its all-black data civilly one sentence is a frustrate process. >> looking from name because it is! that's my favourite life of the correspondence is where the doctor says by the way, tony and i, fauci,'s got a huge information request recording the institute and the irony here is the government now acknowledges there was at least a very good chance that the state originate in that chinese lab. in other words the deep dark secret that he was trying to keep now everyone has changed her position on. many people have changed your position on. >> the s. they had when they see e-mails and hearing sick this i'm sure it is a painful. time for all of us, you want to
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move past a there's a lawmakers on the hill who feel they're still some questions that need to be answered. lawmakers also working a bipartisan we also thing else with the americans being held in turks and caicos, the first one, brian came home last night. maybe friday night in pittsburgh, this was the scene as he was reunited with his kids. i have two mid-day when i watch as the first time i was very teary-eyed but we still have three americans in turks you under their laws are being held for violation of those laws but we're trying to that them home. >> yes, a moving video they are. i think the state part -- department worked really hard to get him released. the promise we go to a foreign country as you have the make sure you comply. you should be treated worse are better than the citizens. they have very strict gun laws, in part because they want to attract tourist. they don't want crime and they don't want americans to fear going to the caribbean's because of crime. but unfortunately, he is caught up in this, he did this buy mistake and he just had some
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ammunition which can happen especially if you are a hunter. it was resolved appropriately which is he was sentenced it was a suspended sentence that allowed him to go home and hoping the other three will be coming home soon as well. >> some don't think the state worked hard enough on this we got one home but the others are still there. >> and i stayed still had some in authority and influence here i do think people wish could have been applied sooner, this man was facing a minimum of 12 years in jail. you do have the respect these laws and you also have a have some common sense and we did not see that here. >> i fail to understand why anybody would show up with ammunition in their baggage. i mean, they must know this is illegal under the laws and it's a sovereign nation, we can't tell them what to do but i think it's a very encouraging sign that this gentleman was able to return home and i hope we'll see the others home soon. >> and the woman there have partly she got a bag and didn't realize it was a bullet that got caught in the lining of a bag or
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something so it's a lot of explanations here but we will see whether she gets the same level of deference. >> lawmakers on both sides of the aisle also visited very -- really pushing for this and raising awareness and to the points made they have an incentive to also release these americans and show they are willing to work with our government and encourage american tourist to continue. >> i was there earlier this year it was beautiful but i'm going to intrude's jack what i take with me. thank you very much will see next sunday. up next very import work when group is doing for fallen servicemembers and their families this memorial day weekend and there is a way you can get involved and we will tell you about that. we are also remembering those at rest at arlington national cemetery. appeal full day there just across the river from us here in washington. ♪ >> it's a memorial day sales event.
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♪ >> that's alive looking arlington regina as thousands of bikers prepared to take part in rolling to remember. participants from across the country gather at the pentagon nearby and they will ride through the mall area in washington to honour veterans and those missing in action. prisoners of war as well. first the lieutenant was killed protecting his fellow marines in an ambush in iraq in 2007.
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's courageous actions led every other member of his patrol to survive that day. travis manion foundation was started to honour his service and bring together thousands of veterans and families of fallen heroes. each your memorial day they assemble their honour projects were volunteers across the country paws and reflect and honour those sacrifice their lives in the line of duty. i sat down to travis' sister ceo of the foundation to talk about the mission of the organization and the expansion of this year's honour projects. it's on this week sunday special. >> let's talk memorial day, it's one of the reminders is your foundation is focused on your brother in the sacrifice he made, you have touched on the other people and families and for people who cannot visit the grave site to their loved ones, here were many other places, you have the honour projects would tell us about that. >> the honour project started out as one young woman who
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during covid started visiting gravesites and people started tweeting her saying could you visit my grandfather, could you visit my brother, whatever it was. so she ended up visiting hundreds of gravesites. she came to us and said listen, this is something i think we could really expand so the travis foundation took over her original initiative, we coined at the honour project and today we have 46 cemeteries were dissipating were volunteers can go and patron be to our fallen servicemembers and families know that their families are of his seat -- being visited on more moral day. >> there's a lot of time where they may we can't go because the distance or wealth or health. i'd be surprised with the asking for this and how the input has grown since they had this first idea during covid? >> i don't think i am surprised. i think for a long time people up and looking for a way it's
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always we drive in indo forget what memorial day is about. but there is not a lot of tangible things that we can do is americans to honour that. to teach the next generation. this is what memorial day means. and enjoy that poll in the afternoon. and as a gold star sister myself i will not be at arlington on monday. but i know somebody is going to walk up to my brother's gravestone and say his name. and he's going to be remembered in that way and it's a goldstar sister that means everything. if someone can physically be there then they will say that naaman remember that person. >> i say i remember memorial day weekends when my brother was here and we were doing the things all of us enjoyed we were at the beach kicking off the
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unofficial piece of summer. but today i recognize that although summers i had the opportunity to do that because of the men and women who have given their lives in service for our country. so i think we have an obligation as americans to take one moment out of that entire weekend and showing up in that position, go online and learn the story of a fallen servicemember. and as you are cracking open a beer at the pool with your friends and family share that story with your neighbour. and make sure that the stories and the stories my brother and all the men and women who have died in service to our country, that their names live on. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> you can find it a lot more information and offered to help if you want by visiting and it's not too late for this memorial day. a quick note, my podcast drops the day -- today, i sat down
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with a journalist and education advocate who says the report cards you are getting wright now, they are not actually telling you the full story of how your kids are doing. talk about the questions you should be asking. livin' the bream anywhere you like to get your podcast. that's it for us today, they were joining us i'm shannon bream, river how blessed we e this memorial y we end.d.
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festival and parade kicks off in san francisco this morning. we'll show you how the city is preparing for hundreds of thousands of revelers. and across the country, people are honoring our nation's fallen
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