i don't think most people were expecting the verdict to come this soon the jurors were only in really for less than 2 full days of deliberation for they came back and when the court said today that they were going to wrap up at 4:30. our time here. uh to me that meant that was going to go at least another day, but then they got the note they did have a verdict. our counterpart. inside the courtroom told us it went. dead silent. tense moments as they locked down the hallways with police. locked down the outside of the outside of from ktvu, fox two news. this is the four. we didn't do a thing wrong. >> i'm a very innocent man, and it's okay. i'm fighting for our country. i'm fighting for our constitution. >> donald trump, the first former president to be convicted of felony crimes in american history. a new york judge

unanimously finding him guilty today on 34 counts of falsifying business records. the former president, now a convicted felon, leaving the courthouse just a short time ago, getting into his motorcade and heading to trump tower there in midtown manhattan. welcome, everyone to the four. i'm heather holmes, and i'm alex savage. >> today's historic conviction does not prevent the presumptive republican nominee from running for president or holding the office, and for more on the verdict today, we're joined here by our political reporter, greg lee. quite the day, greg. >> yeah, i mean, truly a remarkable moment in american history. no matter how you slice this, this jury deliberated for 9.5 hours over the course of two days, and they came back with a unanimous decision convicting former president donald trump on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. the former president, defiant outside the courtroom. >> and i think it's just a disgrace. and we'll keep fighting. we'll fight till the end and we'll win because our

country has gone to #### we don't have the same country anymore. we have a divided mess this jury found mr. trump falsified business records to cover up a hush money payment made to adult film star stormy daniels, who said she had an affair with mr. trump. >> the $130,000 payment made by mr. trump's former attorney, michael cohen, to daniels in the days before the 2016 election. trump pleaded not guilty to all these charges and denied an affair. the jury heard more than four weeks of testimony, including from prosecutors, key witness michael cohen and daniels. trump's defense team has vowed to appeal this decision. here's manhattan district attorney alvin bragg, who brought these charges, speaking within the last 15 minutes while this defendant may be unlike any other in american history, we arrived at this trial and ultimately today at this verdict in the same manner as every other case that comes through the courtroom doors, by following the facts and the law

and doing so without fear or favor. now the white house and president biden have generally remained mum on the trial this afternoon, the biden campaign communications director wrote this quote, there is still only one way to keep donald trump out of the oval office at the ballot box. convicted felon or not, trump will be the republican nominee for president. mr. trump, sentencing has been scheduled for july 11th. the felony conviction carries a punishment from probation up to four years in prison. we should remind people this is one of four criminal cases mr. trump is facing, but likely the only one to take place before the november election. so obviously huge implications to this conviction today. >> yeah, absolutely. we will talk about the political implications in just a moment, though. >> we want to talk about this verdict and how we got to this moment for more insight on the jury's decision today, we are joined now live by lori levinson, professor of law at loyola marymount university. and, professor, we appreciate you taking the time today. let's start with just your broad

reaction here to these verdicts from this new york jury. why do you believe the jury voted to convict donald trump? >> well, it really is historic. and i think the jurors did their job. they voted to convict because they listened to all the witnesses and look for that corroboration of michael cohen. and they found it. they found it in the documents. they found it in david pecker. and so from their perspective, this wasn't a political act. they were doing their job as jurors. and they did it in a way that they thought was fair and consistent with what the court instructed. >> and, professor, throughout this trial, we saw the trump team really hinge its defense on discrediting michael cohen. i mean, do you think that was a good strategy, or do you believe they could have done more? >> i think that was their best strategy. but in the end, they had the facts to contend with and some of the facts that were really harmful to trump was, you know, cohen was the person he picked and cohen was the person who he kept closest. and as hope hicks described, trump was a

micromanager. it's not like he really could claim i had no idea what was going on. some other conspiracy pulled this off behind my back. so even though cohen is not somebody you'd ever want to have to call as a witness, he was the person who was closest to trump. >> professor, the prosecution needed to connect the dots beyond a reasonable doubt from the hush money payment to intent to commit a different crime, like a campaign finance violation. how were they able to get there? >> i think they were able to get there in part by these other witnesses, especially pecker, who said, look, this was a scheme to help donald trump get into office. and in that part, they said to violate some of these election laws. so they had various theories. and the court said they didn't have to be unanimous on the unlawful means, but they had an easy one right out of the chute. >> all right. this trial is not over. even though the jury has returned with these verdicts, we will now move on to the

sentencing phase, which is going to happen on july 11th. and as we have talked about here, the potential sentences for mr. trump range from probation potentially up to four years in prison. professor, do you see any scenario in which former president trump is actually given prison time for these guilty verdicts? >> i've been saying all along that it's very unlikely, but today i'm pausing only because trump could be his own worst enemy right now. this type of crime would not end up having somebody go to jail. but how he reacts to it, what he says, whether he intimidates people or threatens people or lies about things, those are all factors the judge could keep into account. so right now, i think it's very unlikely he would go to jail. he's a 77 year old man with no prior criminal record. but with trump, you never say never. >> and also the president, the former president also hinting at an appeal throughout this process. do you think that the defense does actually have

grounds for an appeal? >> i think the grounds for appeal they're going to try to raise are those jury instructions and try to challenge those. i think it's going to be harder to make other challenges. obviously they didn't love how stormy daniels testified, but in part they forgot to object. and that will make their appeal much more difficult. >> professor, this is one of four criminal trials. >> could this verdict color impact or provide any clues to other prosecutors moving forward ? >> i think that it will give heart to other prosecutors. you know, up to now, the question was, is donald trump such teflon that you could never convict him , and the answer is, well, maybe you can, but you need the evidence. and it probably did help that this was tried in new york. each case is going to have its own challenges and those may most likely won't even happen before the election. >> yeah, that's what is expected here. we appreciate your insight here today. laurie levenson from loyola marymount university.

good to have you on. thank you. the real verdict is going to be november 5th by the people. and they know what happened here. and everybody knows what happened here. you have a source that's former president trump late today railing against that verdict. and the trial itself, this unprecedented criminal conviction of a former us president now plunges the country into uncharted waters. >> it certainly does. for more coverage of this breaking news this afternoon, and a look at the potential political fallout from all of this, we want to welcome to the show david mcewen, political science professor at sonoma state. david, always a pleasure to see you. so the big question that really everyone seems to be asking this afternoon is, does this conviction does the outcome of this trial hurt former president trump's chances come november? >> it absolutely does. there's a couple elements to this. we have to pay attention to. one is that there's a there's a set of habitual regular gop voters who won't vote for a convicted felon

. this number is small, but it's important on the margins if you're a candidate like donald trump, who's tapped out at about 46 or 47% of the popular vote, you're going to have to do something about turnout and worries related to that. so what you do is you're worried about those people who won't vote for you. those aren't nikki haley voters. those are like, light independents and light republicans who who might move away from you. so you got to worry about that. you know, you're not going to get democrats and you're going you're going to have to worry about the appeal, particularly in three states pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. in addition, the timing and the calendar really hurts you. and then there's the added benefit that he's a resident of florida. and under florida law, if he's a convicted felon and he hasn't served out a sentence, he can't vote for himself, so there's that element as well, then there's additional components. so if he's getting classified briefing. so those stop, all of which changes the whole parameter, i think you should pay close attention to what republican elders, folks like mitch mcconnell, what they do, what they say, and whether they put any space between themselves

and donald trump. we haven't seen that. we've seen an embrace of him. we would imagine that would continue. >> yeah. speaking about how other republicans are reacting here, we have a tweet that came out late today from senator lindsey graham. and this is what he tweeted. he said, quote, it will be seen this verdict that is will be seen as politically motivated and unfair. and it will backfire tremendously on the political left. obviously, trump and his supporters will downplay the significance of this conviction. but at the same time, they clearly want to try to sort of seize on this decision by the jury. how are they going to try to capitalize on the guilty verdicts to rally support within the base? >> so it's hard for me to say this, but i think there's a little bit of insight into lindsey graham's, tweet there. and the reason for that is, look, they're going to double down on this. they're going to go on the offense because they see victory in this type of supposition, this type of development. they see victory in this idea of grievance politics. that works great for their base. it works great for motivating

them. but they have to motivate the margins to win on the margins. and that's where this becomes difficult and that argument becomes difficult. they tried to do this with african american men. they've tried to do this with latinos and latinos, to cut in to those overwhelming kind of numbers that joe biden had and that barack obama developed. and we're very successful for them, in 2016 against hillary clinton. but this isn't that election. and so they have to also think about expanding and what they can do and converting some of those voters, not just speaking to the faithful and lindsey speaking to the faithful on that. they already have those people. they have to grab the people that are on the margins or on the bubble, if you will. >> dave, we've talked a lot about the calendar. you just did. the sentencing is scheduled for four days before the republican national convention, where trump is expected to be formally nominated by the by the party. how does that complicate again, the courtroom to the campaign trail for him? >> yeah. look, i mean, democrats are really worried about going back to chicago in 1968. and, you know, they're going to have elements of their convention that are virtual because they

don't want to revisit any of those bad images from 68 chicago republicans have to think about they want a made for tv event as well. so if this happens with the july 11th before they go to wisconsin on on the 15th, do they have more virtual events and what does that look like? and so do those virtual events. do the zoom events breed, if you will, and lead to elements that help donald trump secure the nomination and rally the faithful because they're worried about what can happen? milwaukee is a very difficult city, but in a key state for them. and so there's elements of this. do they manage that a little bit more. and they're going to have to do that on the fly. depending on what happens on july 11th and sentencing. just four days before they end up in milwaukee for the convention. >> yeah. all eyes on what happens in just a few months. all right. david mcewen, i know you're going to hang tight. you're going to stay right there because we have more questions for you coming up in just a little bit. so we'll talk with you in just a few minutes. >> all right. we are looking forward to that. we will also want to know what you think about today's verdict. you can

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trump convicted today on all counts. related to the so-called hush money trial. the new york jury deliberating for roughly ten hours. former president trump defiant following today's

verdict, calling it a rigged trial. mr. trump will be sentenced, as we mentioned, coming up later in july. all right. back with us now is professor david mcewan from sonoma state university to talk about the political ramifications of today's guilty verdict for former president trump. >> and before we get to professor mcewen, we're going to take a quick look at the results of the poll that we have put out there, asking whether you think the guilty verdict today will affect trump's chances at reelection. you can see right now 49% of respondents believe that today's decision by the jury will hurt his chances at reelection. 33% say it will help his chances, and 18% of respondents say it will make no difference at all. all right. we want to bring back in david mcewen now to talk more about the biden campaign strategy moving forward. we have seen all along, greg, you've talked about this, the president, the white house, they have essentially remained silent here as this trial has unfolded. we're seeing the same thing today. nothing from the white house or from president biden directly here.

but but you have to imagine the campaign is working behind the scenes to figure out how they respond to this guilty verdict for former president trump. does this shift the strategy for the biden campaign moving forward? are we going to see more of a focus on trump's criminal conviction? >> you know, in the last couple of weeks, privately, democrats have had their hair on fire about what's going on in those swing states. they've been really worried about this, particularly the state. three states. they have to win those michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. and they've been worried that things have been too close after today's events. obviously, they're going to be in quite a boldened move, and they have to worry about overstepping the difficulty for the biden team is that they seem to respond slowly, there are some real challenges for them that they have to deal with. the age issue. they have to deal with the lack of enthusiasm for core constituencies that supported them overwhelmingly, in 2020. and they have to deal with the problem about gaza, and young people and what that looks like, all kind of key constituencies. so they're,

they're going to turn up the heat. you saw that already this past week, with what the president and vice president were doing and talking to african american voters because they're absolutely critical, for democrats, they believe that they will come home, if you will, and provide support for them in november. but nonetheless, we're still going to have a close election. remember, there hasn't been a democratic party presidential candidate who's received more than 54% of the popular vote since 1964. so that bodes for a divisive close election even as we head to november 5th. regardless of today's events. >> okay, so with all of that being said, david, do you see other democrats surrogates out there really, really driving home this issue that now, president biden is facing off a convict facing off against a convicted criminal? >> yeah. i mean, the democrats do have some superpowers that they can harness here. and those superpowers are people like steph curry, draymond green, lebron james right? nba players, they can talk about what's at stake here, for democracy. they have george clooney, they we've

already seen robert de niro. they can activate hollywood in that sense. but republicans and trump and his team have been worried about this. they obviously have elon musk, but they also have billionaires who've devoted this last week, a set of cash and will support donald trump and will close that fundraising gap that's happened. what that all sets forth, i think heather, moving forward is a really divisive, negative race. that's what we have to pay attention to. that's what we can anticipate. so what today's events really fold into is we have legal consequences. we have political consequences, and we have constitutional consequences, all of which reverberate beyond november 5th, the election held in 158 days. yeah >> dave, quickly going back to your first answer, is this enough? the chaos and sort of the campaign and what we're seeing with president trump enough to help joe biden overcome some of the economy, the gaza, the abortion issue, or do they need to hearken harder on those issues and maybe lean away from this? >> so right there is contrast, which is the playbook that they're have going so far with those issues, greg, that you

just mentioned. but you also provide vision, you have to provide a reason for what things look like. and we're in the middle of a dramatic change with the electorate and with the two parties. and what those what those party leaders look like. so that's an element where someone like gavin newsom, for example, becomes hugely important, or those that can get out the vote in key battleground states, particularly those cultural or pop icons that will be really, really important, as we enter in the return of the nfl season and the return of a fall election season that really began before today and could continue in other courtrooms, depending on what happens in those other cases. >> all right. david mcewen, sonoma state. always appreciate your insight, especially on such a historic day as today. david, really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. nice to see you. the dream team there. >> all right. >> hey thank you. we're going to coin that. thank you. appreciate it okay. be sure to stay with us folks right here on the four. we're going to go live to new york in just a few minutes and check in to see what the situation is like right outside of that courthouse. but now we

want to go over to weather and get a really quick update from mark. >> and as we take a look outside, here's our live camera towards san francisco, completely in the clear.

of a former u.s. president. all right. >> we want to go now to fox's connor hansen, who was alive outside of the courthouse in

manhattan as former president trump was found guilty by that new york jury today on all 34 counts of falsifying business records. connor we know there was a huge crowd gathered just across the street from the courthouse. what was the reaction from people in that crowd as they learned about this decision? >> alex and heather, we've really seen a wide range of different reactions as this verdict came out. not long after we heard it was guilty on all counts. we saw people flowing out into the streets behind me. a lot of people celebrating the verdict, holding signs, chanting. but there have also been supporters of former president trump here all six weeks of this trial. they're protesting it as well. right at this moment, a lot of them have dispersed from right behind me, but closer to the courthouse, i'm told there's still a lot of people hanging around, you know, making their voices heard out there. but taking you a little bit before then, as soon as we found out the jury had reached a

verdict, we're told by a counterparts inside that courthouse how quiet it got, how tense it was as they waited about a half hour before they actually heard what it was. now, the jury was only in for less than two full days of deliberations before they came to that guilty verdict on all counts, all felonies. now, we did hear from d.a. alvin bragg. he said. i did my job. our job is to follow the facts and follow the law without fear or favor. we obviously heard from former president trump as he usually speaks after trial every day. he was railing against the verdict, saying they were expecting it the whole time. we're expecting a full, speech from him tomorrow morning at trump tower. we're even hearing from president biden and his campaign. both sides already fundraising off this as we head closer and closer to that election. now, former president trump's sentencing won't be until july 11th. notably, only a few days before the republican national convention. that's when

we'll learn his true fate. it'll be up to judge juan mershon alone to decide what that sentence is. and again, these are felony charges. that sentence could range anywhere from something like probation, even up to jail time, even though that's highly unlikely here. of course, we're expecting trump's legal team to appeal this. they have 30 days to do that. >> and connor, you mentioned what it was like as that verdict was being read outside of the courthouse. just curious, though, how people reacted to actually seeing the former president's motorcade pass by and what that interaction was like. >> that was very interesting. you know, people saw him leave the courthouse, and when he arrived at trump tower, we heard a mix really like we did out here. people were cheering the verdict, yelling at the former president, but also some of his, his supporters were cheering for him, clapping, you know, so it'll be fascinating to see what

the impact is on the actual election. you know, it was a really interesting poll that came out last week on how this would affect how people vote. and i guess we'll have to update it next week. but just so you know, people who voted who said they'd be more likely to vote for him in november, 15% less likely to vote for him, 17% will make no difference at all. 67% in that poll. so it'll be fascinating to see what impact this has on the election season. >> yeah, we will have to wait and see what this means as we head toward november for fox's connor hanson. live there in lower manhattan outside the courthouse after an historic day in this country. connor. thank you. >> okay. from new york, we want to bring it back home a little closer to home. take a live look now at beautiful mount diablo. our meteorologist, mark tamayo is back with us with a look at what lies ahead. just a really nice thursday as we get ready to close out the workweek. >> yeah, that's right heather, a bit of a warm up today. some 80s, even a few spots, right

around 90 degrees tomorrow, another warm day. but then we'll definitely cool things off as we head into the weekend. take a look at the numbers in most areas today. a bit warmer than yesterday. that means some more 90s to report for healdsburg out toward brentwood, walnut creek and saratoga so far this afternoon. so it has been somewhat of a warm stretch. it started yesterday, continues today, and still somewhat in your friday forecast. and then definitely we'll have that temperature drop as we move into the weekend. the satellite showing you where the fog is and it's not here. it's mainly to our south down towards southern california. as we come in closer to the bay area, you can kind of interesting here. there's a fog bank here closer to santa barbara. but we also have a bit of a north wind. so as a result kind of keeping that fog out of here for right now. so we are enjoying mostly clear skies and some warm to hot temperatures. so getting toasty in a few spots out toward fairfield 92 degrees right now. san jose 87, san francisco in the upper 60s and a bunch of 80s up in the north bay for novato and in santa rosa as far as the winds right now, you can see a calm wind out toward

fairfield. oakland. we have northwest wind at about 14, and sfo winds out of the northwest at about 16 miles an hour. so here's our live camera looking above san francisco so you can't see looking out toward alcatraz. there's a fort mason and lots of clear skies with a bit of some haze up above, but still a warm afternoon even around the city as far as overnight temperatures. we'll bring in back down into the 50s, so partly cloudy skies, some patchy fog near portions of the coast and right around the bay. and here's the forecast model showing you where the cloud coverage could be. so a little bit more in the way of some fog. tomorrow morning and tomorrow will be a bit cooler right near the immediate coastline. so some lower 60s, their warmest locations inland under mostly sunny skies will be in the upper 80s to right around 90 degrees. so another warm to borderline hot day inland, but we are trimming back on those temperatures for your friday. more cooling as we head into the weekend. and what's interesting about a week from today? long range. some of the forecast models suggesting another robust warm up and maybe a few neighborhoods inching closer to 100 degrees. we'll have more on

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yeah. of course. today, a new york jury convicted former president trump on 34 counts of falsifying business records.

greg, obviously, we can't say it enough. an historic day in this country here after this verdict, what are some of the major implications of this decision today? >> i think the big thing, this was a test of the judicial system, right. you had unchartered waters. a former president being charged and convicted in a criminal case, something we've never seen before. and i think that was part of what made this case extraordinary. ultimately, like alvin bragg said, the jury did their duty. whether it was guilty or not guilty, they decided guilty. so that is one part of that. the other part of this is that there will be a legal appeal and that will take some time. it could take months. it could take up to a year. and that is certainly a process that we will see play out and obviously those are the political implications. and another thing to keep an eye on is that we will see former president trump. we will see his supporters question the validity of the justice system. and that is something that americans have to prepare for that that is going to be part of. the question is, you heard him saying today that the system was rigged against him. when we know

that everything played out the way things are supposed to play out in a court of law. >> yeah. so, greg, as we look ahead to november, how do you see this campaign season playing out? >> yes. and there's no saying what the next several months could look like, because a couple of months in political time is an eternity. and so obviously we will see what the biden campaign does to either use this and move forward. both campaigns or fundraising off of this verdict. trump saying he's a political prisoner. biden saying we have to go to the ballot box and we will see how that messaging kind of continuing forward. but we will see how they attack the core issues of what is happening in gaza, the economy, abortion. those are issues that voters continue to want to hear about, and perhaps less so. the chaos and the uncertainty of what happens in court with former president trump. >> all right. and as we talked about here, his sentencing is happening in early july, you know, early to mid july 11th. and how important it is, sort of the political timeline going to be as we move toward november. >> well, and one of the things we saw former president trump

say throughout this trial is that i should be on the campaign trail, in his words, saying this is election interference, because the more i am in here, i'm unable to talk to voters. i'm unable to court their favor. and the bottom line is that both president biden and former president trump are looking at those key swing states where former president trump leads biden across the board, but it is how you address those purple voters. the independent voters. what did they say? what did they think? and how does this impact them? >> yeah, it really has been interesting to see throughout the trial, the polling really not change a whole lot in regards to tipping to either former president trump's favor or president biden's favor. we actually are conducting our own poll of people here in the bay area about what they think and what they think about today's decision and how that might affect the election come november. so we asked people at home, do you think the guilty verdict will affect trump's chances at reelection? will it hurt trump? will it help him or will it may make really no difference? and greg, some political insiders have said that they don't see this, the

outcome of this trial making an election. before we got today's verdict, what are you seeing? what are you expecting now? >> i mean, what we're seeing nationally is that people sort of had their results baked in no matter what happened in court today. they were with president, former president trump all the way, or they were always against him. the question is sort of those middle of the road, and they are getting fewer and fewer people who have not decided how they would vote. and will this keep certain republicans at home because in a protest, they will not vote for him because of this? and that is the question we will continue to monitor moving forward. right. >> i really appreciate it. political reporter greg lee, thanks so much. thank you. >> my investing in our children and our families, we are investing in the future of our city, san francisco mayoral candidate mark farrell today unveiled a plan he says will ensure every family in the city has access to affordable, high quality child care. >> the former supervisor, who was briefly appointed mayor, is laying out a proposal to

subsidize child care services for middle and low income parents. farrell also says his plan would help to recruit more child care workers and raise their wages, while turning vacant spaces across the city into child care centers. >> yeah, well, we spent a big portion of this afternoon talking about the presidential election. there is this really important election coming up in san francisco. so we want to talk more now with mark farrell. he joins us now live to discuss this plan. mark that you unveiled today. all three of us parents, we know the high cost of child care. obviously our children are a little bit older now. but what explain a little bit more about your plan to help middle and low income families afford child care. >> look, i want san francisco to be the best city in the world to raise a family. and it is no secret that the cost of living in san francisco is incredibly high for families in particular. right now, the average cost of child care or preschool in san francisco is approximately $20,000 a year for families and, you know, for families in particular in san francisco. what we have seen is that child

care is often the straw that breaks the camel's back and causes them to leave the city of san francisco. i want to change that. i want to be mayor. that is incredibly proactive for our families, to make sure that they stay in san francisco and thrive in san francisco. >> all right. >> so the plan is to subsidize these child care services for middle and low income families. what does that subsidization subsidization program actually look like, and how much do you anticipate it will cost to help all of those families who need assistance? look our plan and my proposal for universal child care that i came forward with today is multiple prongs. >> one is about making sure the space is available so they have child care facilities available throughout every single neighborhood in san francisco. we need to make sure we train workers and have a pipeline of people staffing these child care centers. and then it's about affordability. as you mentioned, alex. and from my point of view, what we need to do is make sure the subsidized low and middle income families here in san francisco to make child care universal and affordable in

every single neighborhood. what that means specifically, is that child care subsidies should be portable in san francisco, because for parents, depending upon where they work, where they live, and where the child care facilities are, parents have different family circumstances about carpools or taking the bus or walking or riding bikes. we want to make sure people are able to use these facilities in whatever manner that works for that family. specifically any more flexibility? absolutely. 100. okay, so where does the money come from to fund these subsidies and how many families do you think you will actually be able to help? so the money comes from funds that are sitting unused inside of our city coffers, hundreds of millions of dollars that were collected through a proposition tax back in 2018. it should help literally hundreds of families across the city of san francisco. and i want to do it immediately. >> all right. >> you some of your the other candidates in this race, as well as current mayor london breed weighing in on your proposal here. and i want to put up on

the screen here what mayor breed had to say in response to the plan you're laying out here for a child care programs in san francisco, the mayor said. mark farrell, who has contributed zero new policy ideas since launching his campaign, is now desperately trying to poach mayor breed's child care and early education platform. how would you respond to the mayor, who says she has done a lot to try to improve access to child care programs in the city? >> i find that quote incredibly comical coming from mayor, who has failed the city of san francisco across every single metric that i can tell, you know, from my perspective, what we need to do is have a mayor that is incredibly proactive, focusing on families in san francisco. i will be that mayor. you know, as someone who is raising three children in the city, i see families, we see our children. we know the different pains that families go through in the city of san francisco. child care is certainly a big part of that. and the reality is we have hundreds of millions of dollars of unspent funds sitting in our city coffers. it's great

that other candidates and our current mayor has done some work on this issue, but the reality is too little, too late. we haven't done enough. and i also find it comical and rich reading criticisms from other candidates. nobody has articulated a single policy idea around keeping families in san francisco. i have been very specific about education, about now universal child care and more policies to come, by the way, because i believe families are the backbone of our city of san francisco. and i will fight as mayor to make sure that we stay that way. >> okay, mark, you mentioned this idea of trying to get more child care providers. we've been reporting on the shortage and especially in san francisco. but how specifically do you plan to get more people in to the child care industry and to provide this vital service? >> yeah, great question. so two ways specifically, number one, i believe we have to work with our public school district and our department of early childhood inside of city hall to ensure that we talk to former staff members within our school district that have left, that will want to come back and serve

in this child care capacity. that's number one. but i think longer term and more importantly, we need to partner with our universities and our institutions inside of san francisco to create training programs to make this a career that is worth fighting for, because another component to all of this, mark is also the pay for child care providers is how do you plan to address that? >> okay. it's great that you're able to subsidize and help on the family end, but what about trying to get people into the profession and staying? >> yeah, absolutely. and these funds that we have sitting on our coffers inside of city hall unspent today for years, can also go to increasing wages for child care workers in san francisco. and to your point, we have to make sure this is a well-paying profession. we see it across teachers and other people that serve our community in san francisco, that they aren't paid enough wages. and i want to make sure as mayor that as it relates to families, as it relates to children, and certainly my proposal for universal child care in our city, that we make sure that we have workers that are paid well enough to make sure this is a

career that is sustainable. >> before we before we wrap this up, i want to ask about one other aspect of your proposal that you laid out today, and that is to try to turn vacant spaces across the city of san francisco into child care centers. >> you want to revitalize vacant spaces across the city and incentivize property owners to fill those spaces with child care centers. how do you plan to incentivize those property owners to put a child care center there, as opposed to maybe a business that maybe would pay more money? >> yeah, thanks for that question. and the reality is we have so much commercial vacancy throughout the city of san francisco, in every single neighborhood. and i believe these child care facilities need to be in every single neighborhood in our city. that's what i mean by universal. and so from my perspective, what we need to do is incentivize property owners, one, to lease a facility to child care providers through property tax incentives and otherwise, but also provide low interest loans. so if they want to remodel their facilities to then lease it out to child care providers, they can do that

as well. i believe san francisco again, should be the best place in the in the country to raise a family providing universal child care is a big step in that direction, and i can't wait to see it come to fruition. >> all right, san francisco mayoral candidate mark farrell really appreciate you coming on and fleshing out your plan with this. i know w l help

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wins. so i welcome this beautiful shot of the oakland estuary. yeah. >> it's good to have you back. i mean, you can't beat bay area weather on on most days. i that's true. what a gorgeous shot here we've been enjoying. yeah. just nice warm weather, you know, maybe for some folks, it's kind of bordering on getting a little bit hot, right, mark? i mean, especially in those inland areas and in the coming days, it's going to kind of crank up a bit. >> that's what my daughter would say. she she'd be saying it's too hot out there. but yeah, we are cooling things off though definitely into the weekend. and by the way, welcome back, heather, to thank you. glad to be back. yeah a bit of a warm up today, but no crazy heat to most areas. the hot spots in the upper 80s to right around 90 degrees. but it has been somewhat of a warm to hot stretch, which kind of developed yesterday. continues for today, somewhat for tomorrow for your friday. although we'll shave off a few degrees and then some cooling as we head into the

weekend. what's interesting, though, is we head into june, the long range forecast model showing you a clear signal out here, out across the west. and that is we will have temperatures well up above the average. and that means temperatures tomorrow. actually a week from today could be a bit warmer than today. we could be tracking maybe some triple digit temperatures across portions of the bay area. so warmer than the average could be hot. as we head toward next week. so we'll be watching out for that change over the next several days. right now, though, the cool conditions down to our south down towards southern california, you can see that fog bank kind of trying to make it around this bend here near point conception here. but we have a bit of a northerly breeze trying to kind of keep that fog out of here overnight. tonight into tomorrow morning, some patchy fog resurfaces and that will begin to cool us off tomorrow for your friday current numbers though we are thinking some 90s for today and we have some 90s for concord and fairfield 90 to 92, santa rosa, upper 80s and san francisco 68 degrees. here is our live camera. look at this. those hillsides here. this is the foreground here. really starting to dry out. so of course with these dry days and these warm days. but that's the

view from our south bay camera. overnight temperatures starting out tomorrow morning will be in the 50s. so partly cloudy skies, some patchy fog coast side and also right around the bay as we put this forecast model into motion. these brighter colors do resurface lower 60s a bit cooler for the coast, upper 80s to maybe 90 degrees well inland. and that's what our little temperature sensor for tomorrow is showing. as you can see, the flight across the bay and the inland spots eventually on track to reach the mid to upper 80s tomorrow afternoon. and maybe a few spots could be flirting with the 90 degree mark for your friday, but definitely cooling things off into the weekend. so it is a warm friday. this area of high pressure is out here, but this system wants to drop in from the north as you can see into the weekend. so definitely a cool down for both saturday and into sunday. and that's going to be kind of aided by the low clouds and the fog. so as we put this model into motion there we go. the more fog into your weekend. and i'll definitely send that cooler marine air across the bay. won't be a cool weekend, just not as warm as today or tomorrow. forecast highs 6070 warm spots still in

the mid to upper 80s. and here's a look ahead. your five day forecast cooling things off for saturday. not too much change for sunday into next week. we're tracking that warm up by tuesday and beyond tuesday. we will continue to bump up those those temperatures and maybe approaching 100 degrees. we'll keep an eye on that potential heat about a week away. >> all right. yeah, we will certainly track that. mark. thank you. much more news headed your way this afternoon here on the four. but up first let's check on the roads around the bay area. and we head to the east bay. a live look at the traffic here. and it is stacked up in both directions here along the east shore freew . as yo co

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of tobacco. ahead of world no tobacco day, which kicks off tomorrow. the organization accusing the tobacco industry of targeting young people. the allegations laid out in a new report titled hooking the next generation researchers finding that roughly 37 million teens between 13 and 15 years old actively use tobacco. medical experts blame the marketing of tempting flavors for the increased use. >> bubblegum, you know, vanilla ice cream cookies all aimed for children. they're paying ads and product placements with streaming services, and they have partnerships with food delivery services so that you can get your e-cigarettes through the app right at your door. we are calling on

governments to ban all these flavors. >> well, the cdc says tobacco use is the leading preventable cause of cancer and cancer deaths. >> construction of a new clubhouse for san francisco nonprofit united players is now officially underway. congresswoman nancy pelosi, mayor, london breed and da brooke jenkins were among those who attended a groundbreaking ceremony today for that new facility. the project will renovate united players existing two story building on howard street and also add a new community center. >> this building will be a manifestation of the respect that we have for the dignity and worth of every person, that it is our responsibility to help meet their needs and to understand the resource that they are to the community. >> that new facility will be over 7300ft!s. it will include a community hall meeting rooms and offices to expand family literacy and adult reentry

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rejected a deal that would have given them partial control over tiktok. a compromise that tiktok thought might help them avoid an all out ban. but it didn't ultimately solve the problem, which is tiktok is owned by a beijing based business, which means the chinese communist party has influence over it, the washington post reports. the deal on the table would give the us government veto power over each new hire at tiktok, let a defense contractor monitor tiktok source code and give the feds a kill switch to shut down the app if anything were to go haywire. but a senior biden administration official telling the post the only acceptable option is completely cutting off tiktok from china for national security concerns, saying they, quote, determined more than a year ago that the solution proposed by the parties at the time would be insufficient to address the serious national security risks presented. it became clear that divestment from its foreign ownership was and remains necessary. republicans say this half measure fix floated by tiktok would have made the us operate

just like the ccp. >> why would we choose to do what tiktok has already done? and that is to give the government access? time is ticking for tiktok to put themselves up for sale and find a buyer if they want to continue to be on smartphones in america. >> but instead of doing that, they are busy suing over the divestment order signed into law by president biden. a u.s. appeals court in d.c. will be hearing the case and is fast tracked. the process to get a ruling by december 6th, leaving time for the supreme court to weigh in if needed. now, tiktok has until january 19th to divest to an american company or face a ban in washington. hillary vaughn, fox news. >> ktvu, fox two news at five starts now. a historic day in new york city. donald trump guilty on all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records in a scheme to influence the 2016 election. moments after the verdict, the former president calling the jury's decision a disgrace. >> the real verdict is going to

be november 5th by the people, and they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here. >> donald trump, the first former us president to be convicted of a felony. good evening everyone. i'm mike mibach and i'm julie julie haener. >> those 34 felonies are 11 counts related to invoices, 12 counts related to ledger entries and 11 counts related to checks. >> we're joined now by ktvu political reporter greg lee. historic day. indeed. >> yeah. julie. mark. mike. excuse me. truly a remarkable moment in american history. i mean, this jury deliberated for 9.5 hours over the course of two days, and they came back with a unanimous decision convicting former president donald trump on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. the former president, defiant outside the courtroom. >> again, i think it's just a disgrace. and we'll keep fighting. we'll fight till the end and we'll win because our country has gone to #### we don't have the same country anymore. we have a divided mess