11/14/23 11/14/23 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> weapons from u.s., germany, australia, u.k., many of whom likely been used in war crimes against gaza now. there are serious questions about implicit in israel's war against gaza. amy: as the world health organization warns gaza's

largest hospital is turning into a cemetery, we will look at how the united states and other nations are helping to arm israel in its assault on gaza. we will speak to antony lowenstein, author of "the palestine laboratory: how israel exports the technology of occupation around the world." we will also speak to a land and palestinian journalist ahmed alnaouq. and we will talk to the prize winning journalist jazmine hughes who was forced to resign from the new york times magazine after signing an open letter criticizing israel. we also speak to the writer jamie lauren keiles who is leaving "the new york times" as well. close when the war broke out, a letter began to circulate amongst journalists.

for me as a journalist, it was a no-brainer to sign. the only reason to be a journalist is to be in the business of talking about the truth. shortly after i realized there would be retaliatory action on me and i thought, if i can't speak the truth and the job of a journalist, then why be a journalist at all? amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. united nations agency for palestinians for refugees has its help will grant to halt if there is no fuel. the warning from unwra came on the 30th consecutive day of relentless attacks on the besieged palestinian territory with dozens killed and wounded in the latest strikes on the southern city of khan younis. this, despite israel's order to

gazans to evacuate to what israeli leaders have called a safe zone in the south. the united nations says more than 200,000 northern gaza residents have fled their homes over the past 10 days. this is an 80-year-old forced to march south on foot. >> we have no food or water and we are displaced from our home. our building was destroyed with our belongings inside. we are all without clothing and don't know what to do. what can we do? amy: president joe biden called monday on israel to scale back its attacks on civilian targets saying its military should take what he called less intrusive action at gaza's main medical center, the al-shifa hospital. biden added, "the hospital must be protected." his remarks came after doctors without borders reported israeli troops fired on medical teams and an ambulance attempting to

retrieve injured people from al-shifa's gates. at least one israeli sniper fired into the hospital, hitting patients. others reported they'd been struck by gunfire from low-flying israeli drones. israel claims hamas has a command center below the hospital but the claim has been denied by hospital officials. human rights watch has called for israel's attacks on gaza's hospitals to be investigated as war crimes. in february, biden signed an executive order barring the u.s. from supplying weapons to countries that would likely use them to target civilians. i just last week, the biden administration approved a $329 deal to supply israel with precision having bombs. -- precision-guided bombs, and biden is seeking a further $14 billion on top of $3.8 billion in annual u.s. military aid to israel. the armed wing of hamas said monday it is prepared to release up to 70 women and children held

hostage in the gaza strip in exchange for a five-day cease-fire. in an audio recording, a spokesperson accused israel of stalling on implementing the deal. on monday, family members confirmed the killing of 74-year-old canadian-israeli peace activist vivian silver in hamas's attack on kibbutz be'eri, near gaza. she had been missing since october 7. her family had believed she might have been taken hostage. silver co-founded the arab-jewish center for equality, empowerment, and cooperation and was a member of women wage peace. in 2017, she joined a march of israeli and palestinian women to the shores of the jordan river to call for an end to israel's occupation. >> we must reach a political agreement. we must change the paradigm that we have been tied for seven decades now where we have been told only war will bring peace.

we don't believe that anymore. it has been proven it is not true. amy: israeli military strikes on southern lebanon killed two people near israel's border on monday. separately, an israeli electric power company employee died from wounds sustained from a hezbollah missile attack on northern israel on sunday that injured at least 13 other civilians. also on monday, several journalists came under artillery fire from israel as they reported from the lebanese border village of yaroun. the attack wounded an al jazeera cameraman and damaged equipment. a lebanese television crew was broadcasting live during the attack. amy: the committee to protect journalists reports 42 media workers have been killed in israel, lebanon and the occupied palestinian territories since october 7. most of them were killed in israeli strikes. the center for constitutional rights has filed a lawsuit

against president biden accusing him of failing to follow his obligations have international and u.s. law to prevent genocide in gaza. the complaint was brought on behalf of palestinians, including residents of gaza, who are asking a federal court to block biden, u.s. secretary of state antony blinken, and defense secretary lloyd austin from providing further military funding, arms, and diplomatic support to israel. katherine gallagher, a senior attorney at the center for constitutional rights and one of the lawyers who brought the case, said in a statement -- "the united states has a clear and binding obligation to prevent, not further, genocide. so far, they have failed in both their legal, moral duty and considerable power to end this horror. they must do so." and washington, d.c., dozens of rabbis were joined by spiritual leaders and hundreds of others for a morning prayer and reading of the torah in front of the u.s. capitol monday calling for a ceasefire in gaza.

after the special shacharit service, rabbis and supporters marched to congressional offices where they met with elected officials. this is congressmember cori bush. >> we are rabbis. we are pastors. we are congressmembers. we are surviving family members. we are human beings and we are bound by our faith to demand a cease-fire now. to demand an end to the violence now, to demand that love and peace and justice and humanity reigns and is at the center of all of our work now, not tomorrow, not next week, not in a month, not in a year, now. cease-fire now. amy: mexico's first openly non-binary magistrate and respected lgbtq+ rights advocate jesús ociel baena has been found dead in their home in the state of aguascalientes.

officials said monday there's an investigation underway into baena's cause of death. lgbtq and human rights i just are demanding they investigate this as a hate crime as they had received death threats. hundreds joined in a march demanding justice for baena. >> what happens to one of us happens to others. we don't one more person to lose their life and hate crime. amy: the u.s. supreme court said it has adopted a new code of monday conduct following a series of high-profile corruption scandals. in april, propublica reported justice clarence thomas failed to disclose lavish gifts and payments from billionaire and conservative activist harlan crow.

more reporting revealed that justice neil gorsuch sold property he co-owned to the head of a major law firm that has since had many cases before the supreme court and the wife of chief justice john roberts was paid over $10 million in commissions as a job recruiter placing lawyers at elite law firms. the supreme court's updated, 14-page code of conduct contains no enforcement mechanism. the anti-corruption group revolving door project blasted it as a "unenforceable public relations document serves absolutely no purpose other than to permit the media to revert to pretending that our unaccountable and unethical supreme court retains legitimacy." a former attorney for donald trump has revealed an aide to the ex-president said in december 2020 that trump did not plan to leave the white house under any circumstances. on monday, "the washington post" published video of four defendants who have accepted

plea deals in the georgia election interference case answering prosecutors' questions as part of cooperation agreements that brought them reduced sentences. this is former trump attorney jenna ellis recounting a conversation with former white house adviser dan scavino. >> he said to me in an excited tone, we don't care and we are not going to leave. i said, what you mean? he said, the boss -- min president trump -- and everyone understood the boss, that is what we called him, he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances, we're just going to stay in power. amy: despite his legal woes, president trump remains the front runner for the republican party's 2024 presidential nomination. on monday, he stoped fresh outrage with these remarks at a veterans day rally of supporters in new hampshire. pres. trump: we pledge to you we will route out the communists,

marxists, radical left thugs that lived like vermin in the confines of our country. amy: on monday, the white house condemned his remarks, comparing them to the language of adolph hitler and mussolini. amy: in atlanta, georgia, police attacked peaceful protests with tear gas, pepper balls, and flash-bang grenades monday as hundreds rallied against the construction of a massive $90 million police training complex known as cop city. over 400 protesters marched toward the sacred weelaunee forest, the proposed site for cop city, where activists spoke to the crowd, including the parents of environmental defender manuel esteban terán, known as tortuguita, who was fatally shot by georgia state troopers in january. and the argentinian-mexican philosopher and theologian enrique dussel has passed away at the age of 88. his work in decolonizing philosophy and formulating a latin american liberation

theology has grown increasingly influential in recent years. he challenged eurocentrism's influence, writing -- "modernity elaborated a myth of its own goodness, rationalized its violence as civilizing, and finally declared itself innocent of the assassination of the other." and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman in new york, joined by democracy now!'s juan gonzález in chicago. hi, juan. juan: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: the united nations says more than 200,000 palestinians living in the northern gaza strip have fled their homes over the past 10 days after being forcibly displaced by israel's massive bombardment. since october 7, more than 1.5 million palestinians have been displaced. that is more than three quarters of gaza's population. many fear they will never be allowed to return home.

over 1500 displaced palestinians remain at al-shifa, the largest hospital in gaza, which has run out of fuel and has stopped functioning as a hospital. the world health organization has warned al-shifa has become "nearly a cemetery" as dead bodies pile up outside the hospital. heavy fighting has been reported just outside the hospital. israel claims hamas has a command center below the hospital but the claim has been denied by hospital officials. many palestinians in gaza are comparing the recent events of the 1948 nakba, the catastrophe, when 700,000 palestinians were pushed out of their homes and turned into refugees during the creation of the state of israel. this is 80-year-old abla awad. she grew up in a refugee camp in gaza, had been forced from her

hump is a five-year-old in 1948. now she has become a refugee again. >> we came here, we fled from the camp and came here to escape the bombing. and now we are here. flies are everywhere. there's no food. it has been a while since i've had any bread. i want. -- i want to eat. it is the same thing happening. we were displaced and ended up in gaza. it is the second nakba. what do we do to them? every few years they bring another new nakba on to us. i was five years old and i remember being displaced. our families carried us along with airbags and they took us to gaza. i swear it is the same as what is happening today. just like they displaced us the first time, they're doing so another time. the two situations are alike.

i have never seen a war like this. people are being displaced. amy: the words of abla awad, an 80-year-old palestinian woman in gaza. we go now to london where we are joined by ahmed alnaouq. he is a palestinian journalist from gaza who lives now in london. co-founder of we are not numbers. at least 20 members of his family have been killed in gaza since october 7, including his father and several siblings. his recent piece for the nation is headlined "palestinians just want to be treated like human beings." welcome to democracy now! we are so sorry for your loss. if you could talk about what happened to your family? >> thank you for having me. what happened in my family happened to another palestinian family, hundreds of palestinian families. it is what has been going on for the past 75 years. my family was living in their home.

there was my father, three sisters, two brothers, my cousin, 14 nieces and nephews. they were sleeping in my home october 7 when israel bombed my home and killed all of my family members. except for three. one was a kid who was 10 years old. she was severely burned and spent a few days at the hospital and then succumbed to her wounds. the rest is my nephew, three years old. my sister-in-law survived. 21 family members were killed. this is what is happening in gaza. this has been going on for the past 75 years. only since october 7, more than 200 other families have suffered the same loss i suffered right now. juan: you left gaza in 2019. have you been able return? when was the last time you saw any of your family members? >> unfortunately, i left gaza

2019 and have not been able to meet any of my family members ever since. for the past four years, i have been trying my best to meet with my father, to see my father. he was an old man. he was 75 years old but he looked older than he is. he was very sick. for the past four years, i have been dying every day 100 times because i miss my father and could not meet with him because of the borders and the blockade. unfortunately, i have not seen him ever since i left gaza. i never have met with any of my siblings who i lost ever since i left gaza. juan: your reaction to the enormous protests around the world? there was a huge one in london this saturday. what do you hope might come from these mobilizations? >> actually, london has been protesting for the past four

weeks. not only london, but also edinburgh and capitals all over the world. people are protesting in the thousands and hundreds of thousands. the protests we saw on saturday in london, people estimate the number between 800,000 to a million people, one of the biggest protests in history after the protest of the iraq war in 2003. these hundreds of thousands of people come everyone called for one thing, a cease-fire, cease-fire now. he gives me a heartwarming feeling that my family, that children in gaza -- people follow the news coming care about the palestinians in gaza. and most importantly, no longer the mainstream media that seeks to dehumanize and demonize and provide a cover for israelis to

commit atrocities against the palestinian people. it gives me a heartwarming feeling that people care about us and we'll keep protesting against israeli occupation coming against this aggression. i think these protests are doing a great job. we have seen many of the politicians have changed their tone when it comes to gaza. we have seen calls from president macron which is very good and i think it is in the right direction. people, when they protest, i think eventually the government will have to listen to them and stop its onslaught on gaza. amy: can you talk about the politics of what is happening in london? this massive protest, what are the largest britain has seen in london this weekend, and then the ousting of the foreign

secretary braverman saying that pro-palestinian marches are hate marches so she was thrown out and cameron, the former prime minister, was made secretary in the discussion of tony blair being brought back as well? your response? >> what i think the message that the protesters all over the kk to the government is that we do not accept to be called hate marches. we don't expect the false allegation that people who protest are anti-semitic. unfortunately, we have seen comments from politicians, the former home secretary describing these marches as hate marches. unfortunately, we, the palestinians and pro-palestinians, people from all over the u.k., -- you could

rarely find someone who once israel to continue the massacre against palestine. the government is not living up to its responsibility as a democracy. they are not living up to the aspirations of the people. i think the people were kind and generous and pro-justice and came from all across the u.k. on saturday, from all across the u.k. and traveled for hours to participate in this protest. the message was they do not accept these allegations, do not accept that they are hate marches. people from all colors, all faiths came to london and protested calling for a cease-fire. this is a love march. people who came here came out of love, out of humanity.

they came to say enough is enough. these people do not accept their home secretary says they are hate marchers. i believe the power of people is very -- people are very powerful . i think eventually the government will have to listen to them. i think this is a step in the right direction for people to ousting suella. i hope -- i have hope they will do a better job with the next home secretary than the previous one. i make a we were showing video of this massive march -- amy: we were showing video of this massive march. there are large group of jews arching saying jews against apartheid, the jewish star with "not in our name." i went to get your response to what is happening in the united

states was the president biden speaking monday saying al-shifa hospital must be protected. pres. biden: you know i have not been reluctant in expressing my concern. it is my hope and expectation there will be less interest of action to the hospital. with the israelis come also there is an effort to take this pause to do with the release of prisoners and that is being negotiated as well. i remain somewhat hopeful. the hospital must be protected. amy: "the hospital must be protected," president biden said. your response? and previously, to the large jewish population speaking out against what israel is due in gaza and separating their condemnation of anti-semitism

from condemnation of the israeli state? >> the jewish people in this country and america actually has been playing a pivotal role in this struggle against occupation, struggle against the apartheid and occupation of palestine. we in london, for example, in this protest, more than 1000 jewish people came to protest. their calls were the same as everyone at the protest. the jewish people are part of the struggle, of the palestinian liberation movement. they have been doing a great job. i believe one of the most vocal voices for palestine are jewish voices. we have seen in organizations in the u.s. and u.k. with jewish voices for peace and many other organizations who are calling or

fighting day and night for the liberation of the palestinian people, who are fighting against occupation peacefully. they can't be anti-semitic while they are jews. the smear campaign is fierce. they do not distinguish between the muslims, jewish, christian as long as we're pro-palestine, against occupation, then we are anti-semitic. that is absurd. i am very proud. all of us are very proud of the jewish community in the u.s. and u.k. who challenge the stereotypes or challenge the western media, challenge the misinformation about what is going on in palestine and israel and came out and said in one word that they are pro-justice, pro-peace, and they are with cease-fire now. as for biden, he says al-shifa

hospital should be protected. i what to believe him but i don't think he is genuine. he is supporting israel. he has been aiding israel with money, with weaponry. he has doubled the money he gives to israel to bomb us. for example, my family was bombed by an american-made airplane. biden provides israel with whatever it needs, with weapons, with whatever it needs and then say al-shifa hospital should be protected. unfortunately, the hospital is not protected. most of the refugees who came to a shifa hospital already left. we have seen -- i wouldn't say -- i witnesses say stray dogs eat from the bodies of palestinians.

unfortunately, these comments from biden should be -- i will only believe these comments if he does an action but right now i do not trust his words. i do not trust his calls. i believe he is complicit in the war crimes that israel is committing against the gazan people, including the targeting of hospitals. they have been targeted because israel had to cover to do what they're doing now. juan: i wanted to ask you, you are mentioning al-shifa hospital and the u.s. being complicit. the terrible images we have seen in the past two days of the premature infants cut off from their incubators and all together to be group surrounded

by aluminum foil to protect them. i can't understand why even in the united states or in the west there are still people who don't recognize the enormous war crimes that are being committed here. your sense of what it will take to stop -- to allow at least a cease-fire in gaza right now? >> i don't know what it takes to force a cease-fire. after everything we've seen, the targeting of civilians, targeting of hospitals, schools, refugees as they are going south -- more than 15,000 people already killed, including the 2000 or 3000 under the rubble. entire areas have been wiped out. neighborhoods have been destroyed. people are starting. people are literally starving in gaza. they don't have food or water or medical supplies or electricity.

they don't have internet connection. a genocide is taking place as we are still seeing some politicians and governments who refuse to push israel for cease-fire. i don't know what it takes to stop that. we have seen what is going on in the hospitals is a crime come a crime against humanity. i don't know how these people -- they are humans. how do they feel for the brothers and sisters that allow this to happen. the israelis are targeting al-shifa hospital and other hospitals not because there is a hamas base in it. they know there is not. these are public areas. there is no hamas inside al-shifa hospital but israel was to destroy the hospital in order to force everyone who lived north of the valley to go south. people are taking refuge in the hospital so israel is bombing the hospital so they end all the

shelters for the refugees and they will be forced to move south. all of these allegations that hamas members or military bases in hospitals is absurd. a country or army that is willing and capable of killing 5000 palestinian kids when they were sleeping in their homes, including 14 of my nieces and nephews, capable of lying and saying there is hamas in the hospital. the world should know better. now we have social media. we see the truth. i do not give any excuse for anyone who believes or buys the israeli narrative about what is going on because this army is a killer and they are capable of lying as they have light for many, many years. amy: ahmed alnaouq, thank you for being with us, cofounder of we are not numbers. at least 20 members of his family have been killed in gaza since the october 7 hamas attack, including his father and

several siblings. his recent piece for the nation is headlined "palestinians just want to be treated like human beings." we will link to it at democracynow.org. next up, we speak with two journalists, the award-winning jazmine hughes, forced to resign from the new york times magazine, after signing an open letter criticizing israel. we also speak to the writer jamie lauren keiles who is leaving "the new york times" as well. back in 30 seconds. ♪ [music break]

amy: "wednesday morning" by macklemore. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we turn now to look at how israel's bombardment of gaza is creating turmoil in some newsrooms. the new york times magazine's award-winning writer jazmine hughes was recently forced to resign after signing an open letter condemning israel's siege on gaza. in an email to staff, the editor of the magazine, jake silverstein, wrote -- "while i respect that she has strong convictions, this was a clear violation of the times's policy on public protest. this policy, which i fully support, is an important part of our commitment to independence." jazmine hughes is an acclaimed journalist who won a national magazine award earlier this year for her profiles of viola davis and whoopi goldberg.

she also worked on the times' prize winning 1619 project about the role of slavery in the united states. her last piece was about danny devito and his daughter lucy starring in a broadway play. meanwhile, contributor at the new york times magazine who signed the same letter criticizing israel, jamie lauren keiles, has announced he will no longer write for the publication. he describes himself as a religiously observant jew. in a message on social media, he said "a personal decision it was "a personal decision about what kind of work i want to be able to do." they said we stand in opposition to the silencing of dissent and to racist and revisionist media cycles further perpetuated by israel's attempts to bar reporting in gaza where journalists have been both denied entry and targeted by israeli forces we condemn those in our industry who continue to enable apartheid and genocide.

we cannot write a free palestine into existence. but together, we must do all we possibly can to reject narratives that soothe western complicity and ethnic cleansing, they wrote. jazmine hughes and jamie lauren keiles join us together in their first broadcast interview. we welcome you both to democracy now! jazmine, let's begin with you. talk about your decision that led to your forced resignation from "the new york times" is on the letter. why did you choose to sign on? >> i signed on to the letter is mostly a conscientious person. i felt so overwhelmed by the media was seeing, the reports i was hearing. i don't purport to be an expert on the situation by any means. i wanted to personally hold myself accountable. what stuck out to me, the letter

was addressed in part to other news organizations, other journalists that spoke about workplace violations, spoke about the ways in which the conflict is being covered. i considered it a conversation within the industry that i wanted to be a part of. juan: couldn't you talk a little about what your concerns were about how it was covered by the times? >> i don't know particular ways it was covered by the new york times, but in general, i felt as if i wanted to be part of the conversation that really held the industry itself to particular standard. i felt personal input -- implicated as a taxpaying american and what i do for myself accountable. with regards to the times coverage, -- i did not have anything particular about the

times coverage. i just wanted to speak to the matter at large. juan: and this whole issue of objectivity within mainstream or commercial journalism, your sense of how it has been applied over the years? >> i think that objectivity is a wonderful, beautiful project for a world that does not exist. i think i guess specifically within the times but in mainstream media at large, the recent diversification of newsrooms has been a great movement to both coverage and people's egos. but what happens when we suddenly have an influx of people with different identities, different experiences and different wants in newsroom? i signed the letter as an employee of the new york times, but as a black person, queer person, woman. all these identities have -- all

of those identities and the communities thereof have been awarded the rights by education, by protest. i as a person at the core of all of these identities wanted to amplify that effort. i think that -- that's it. amy: you have talked about the award you have won for the writing like the national magazine award, being from a very subjective point of view and that that is your power, that is what you win the awards for. can you amplify on that? >> sure. i have -- i had 13 awards there my tenure as a writer. what for being under 30, which i'm no longer, one for writing a story about coming out as a lesbian and one for writing these stories on viola davis and

whoopi goldberg. these were predicated in some part on my identity. i think the biggest difference or what i want to make, i saw the letter -- i wasn't working in the newsroom. i wasn't doing stories were you take authoritative stance where you were presenting unbiased and unfiltered facts. every story ever written for the new york times has been my experience. i am already in a situation where i did not report to try to write or continue to sort of -- the standards of the newsroom, the actual new york times. i think all of the stories i wrote have a particular voice and i think that is why

translates as the letter because it is me. amy: let's bring jamie lauren keiles into this conversation. you also resign from the new york times magazine. you are a transgender jewish writer, self-described observant jew. you were a new york times magazine contributor. talk about your decision. >> first and foremost, sign the letter as a person. i feel like growing up as a jew in america, you're as all the time, what would people do if there was another holocaust? this is the time when you're supposed to speak out. this is the moment you have been hypothetically asked your entire life. i resigned because i think it is the right thing to do. i would not supporting ethno-state for any other group and i don't support it for my own people. that was first and foremost want to send the letter. the secondary question of why did i signed it as a journalist has to do with questions about

what to expect of contingent labor. i am a contributing wruiter so i don't have benefits or protections. i think there's a bigger question of if an institution is not willing to give you job, what do you owe them? a someone who does not have job security and is not protected and doesn't have access to labor rights that are union grants, it is incumbent upon me to be owning my own platform as much as possible. i own nothing to the institution of the times if they give nothing to me. to me the commitment to sign the letter beyond the fact i just think it is the correct statement to make, it is a little bit of a protest of this idea that just because you are person who produces news and like jazmine -- i cover celebrities. this is not my main topic but the idea the magazine or the times as a whole would have some hold on my speech seems ludicrous to me. in some way was a small amount

of protest over the labor conditions of the industry at large. juan: in other words, you're saying the times holds you to the code of conduct of an employee but then does not provide you the benefits or the protections of an employee. what did the editors say to you once the letter had come out? >> it is a little less clear than that because there's not formal statements saying what contributors and workers can or cannot say. when you say, where is the line? what is the political speech and what is statement of fact? it is hard to get a clear answer on that. this was the second letter i signed. i signed an earlier letter regarding the paper's coverage of trans issues and i was reprimanded. they said you cannot sign this because it singles out the work of other writers specifically within the institution. i said, i don't work here so i don't know what you're talking to be about. basically i signed this letter

and resigned shortly after because i felt reprimand was coming. the biggest frustration from the labor perspective is when you ask, what are the guidelines and the hard boundaries of what speech is accepted for contributor or not, there are no written guidelines. people will tell you vague things on the felt like my editor did. like to me it is a bit of a question i've are there clear rules about this, what types of objectivity are we maintaining to be like the requirement for doing this job. it is then incumbent upon me to accept or reject those things. as long as it is the faked regulation of their is a vibe about what types of speech are ok, as someone that is trying to do honest work and be in pursuit of truth in some sense whether or not there's a totally objective position possible, i think it is important especially as the industry becomes more and more centered on people who do

this kind of 1099 contingent work, clear guidelines for what is expected of journalists doing this work. amy: i was wondering your response and if you're part of the protest last week that was just after jazmine had resigned, the large group of media workers who led a march to the new york times and later occupied the paper's building entrance for over an hour denouncing what demonstrators call biased reporting toward israel. protesters read the names at the time of at least 36 journalists, now over 40, killed by israeli fire in gaza. 40 altogether, also involving lebanon. and just redid mock newspapers with the words "the new york crimes" accusing the times of complicity and laundering genocide. also people like nan rubin announced -- rather, nan goldin announced she would end her

collaboration with "the new york times" the well-known artist. jamie, your thoughts? >> so i did attend the outside march in support of the action led by writers against the war on gaza, the group that produced a letter that jazmine and i both signed. i don't necessarily think my anger is focused specifically on "the new york times." while they are indicative of a broader problem, this is an industrywide problem. while the times is the paper of record and the center of this conversation, by no means is exclusive to "the times." my employment situation there is not critical anything about the broader situation. to me it is the media questions around. critical thinking skills journalists would be expected to apply to any other situation and stuff like providing historical context or thinking about the semantics of power within

certain language chosen, even things like the times naming the vertical to israel-hamas war versus the israel-palestine war. i was disheartened to see cnn -- there are these ideas about journalistic objectivity but when it comes down to the level of news being produced, things we would expect of news coverage on any other topic are totally being forgotten here. i think any attempts to silence journalists pushed back to this seems to be in some ways and endorsement of israel's actions. all i think -- beyond a cease-fire, which is my personal demand, as far as industry demand, i am asking for fair, reasonable coverage would expect of any other topic. amy: i want to thank you both for being with us in this first broadcast interview you have done. jamie lauren keiles resigned from the new york times magazine as to jazmine hughes.

jamie lauren keiles is a contributor and jazmine was a staff writer for "the new york times magazine." next up, we look at how the united states and other nations are helping to arm israel in its assault on gaza. we will speak with antony loewenstein, author of "the palestine laboratory." stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: the irish gaelic song "an phailistin" by sharon shannon. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. the weapons israel is using in its assault on gaza have become a major focus of protests calling for a ceasefire. in the united kingdom friday, hundreds of demonstrators blockaded the country's biggest weapons manufacturer, bae systems, to call for the end of weapons sales to israel. >> bae, what do you say? amy: this comes as union members in belgium and spain have refused to handle shipments of military material over the war in gaza. here in the u.s. peace activists , nine were arrested monday for blockading entrances to the engineering complex of general dynamics in connecticut where

nuclear submarines are designed and said -- "we are seeking to make connections between general dynamics' preparation for nuclear war here in new london and israel's ongoing genocide in gaza." meanwhile, in australia, hundreds of pro-palestine protesters blocked the israeli zim shipping line from docking at sydney's port botany, saying it is a major shipper of arms to israeli forces currently waging war on gaza. over the weekend, hundreds of thousands of pro-palestine protesters took to the streets of sydney, melbourne, and brisbane to call for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. australia has reportedly approved over 50 military export permits to israel this year alone, and three palestinian human rights organizations in australia and the u.k. have filed legal challenges to suspend them. for more, we are joined in sydney, australia, by antony loewenstein, an independent journalist who has investigated

how israeli weaponry and surveillance technology is used on palestinians and exported around the world. his most recent book was published in may, "the palestine laboratory: how israel exports the technology of occupation around the world." he was based in east jerusalem between 2016 and 2020. we welcome you back to democracy now! if you can start off by talking about this issue of weapons and also speak from your background as a jewish reporter. >> thank you for having me. what has been happening since october 7 to israel in some way fits into a long pattern. since that day, the u.s., u.k., germany, just a, netherlands, many other countries, rush huge amount of weapons to israel, including a fighter jet israel has been using and a global

supply chain in many countries, including u.s. and netherlands and imparts to israel which almost certainly being used in gaza as we speak was to germans arms exports to israel has expanded 10 times in the last month since 2022. massive increase. i think what you see is a growing global awareness of the connection between israeli militarism and the arms industry. that might be obvious to many on the left. that has been the case for many years long before october 7. but i think you see as i was a growing public awareness and anger. the longer this conflict is going on, the death toll is so staggering. the amount of civilians being killed so overwhelming. the footage we are all seeing -- understanding the connection between how that is happening and who is funding. yes, israel is the one doing the killing in gaza but there's a

deep global connection to many western partners that are funding, backing income and arming it. finally i would say, there's a growing jewish awareness. i speak as someone who is jewish. i am australian but also german citizen. it is clear there is been criticism for sure. in the last year, particularly since the gaza war in 2014, especially this year, the devastation we are seeing with the horrific hamas attack october 7, growing jewish voices -- not just in relation to protesting israeli action but the arms as many western countries are sending to israel to fight its war. juan: could you talk about how israel and especially gaza have become laboratory for surveillance states? you write, for instance, the system is most extreme the city of hebron where facial

recognition and numerous cameras are used to monitor palestinians, including at times in their homes. instead of the extreme jewish settlers who are routinely attacking them. can you talk about that? and also what has been happening in gaza even before the war. >> one of the things i talk about a lot in my book and the west bank and gaza for years, israel regularly tests and trials of new weapons that could be drones, spyware, she say -- in gaza for years framed as the ultimate laboratory. 2.3 million palestinians. a fence was constructed around the entire perimeter. it was almost impossible to break out. ultimately, their huge amounts of technology. but one thing you find after over seven -- october 7, in some

ways this was a tech failure, tech lack of imagination, tech arrogance. israel had believed arrogantly for years that it was possible to take -- kate 2.3 million people indefinitely and they would never break out and resist. in the year before the attack, hearing reports of israel and the nsa stop listening into hamas walkie-talkies. believe they did not need to. but certain jewish communities near the gaza border were given information they were hearing back to israeli military intelligence which the government or. in the one hand, it was intelligence catastrophe. unlike 9/11 in the u.s.. it was a political failure. yet yi talk about it in the boon

have all the repressive technology want in the world, repressed people, surveilled them, monitor their homes, documented in any way possible -- israel is a tragic global leader in this. ultimately, it won't work. it can work for certain amount of time and you can convince other countries that it does work. that was something like october 7 happens, you see the complete failure. having said that, and an important caveat, ultimately will have no impact on the israel arms industry. i think it will help. let me explain. the failure was clear but i think many countries will want to support israel now moving forward after the russian invasion of ukraine, israeli arms sales have soared massively . i think what you'll find is like after 9/11, the u.s. industry by sibley -- massively benefited.

life testing new weapons in gaza, showing it on social media xavier becerra. not just for domestic and international public also other countries that might want to buy those weapons. juan: in terms of the country selling weapons to israel, talk about the difficulty in australia and even finding out what the government is doing in terms of its exporting of arms to israel. >> the market arms industry is hardly when you call world, but i do know after the biden administration has it huge amounts of weapons ukraine, there is a degree of listing what weapons are being sold. whereas with israel, there is barely any acknowledgment of what america is selling to israel but we have certain

suspicion. australia is an interesting case. we are pro-israel stop sadly as a government. for years and years, the straley and arms industry has been boosted by both sides of politics in my country. it sold weapons to saudi arabia used in a genocidal war against yemen. a number of activists, lawyers, journalists including we have tried to find out some details about what exactly is going on with the australian arms industry to israel. i should say i'm one of the cofounders of declassified australia. we recently published an amazing report which details how -- key u.s. intelligence in australia is being used by the americans to provide real-time intelligence to the israelis in their war against gaza. it has been used for decades in

u.s. were making in iraq and afghanistan but the idea that you have a key and american intelligence asset in the center of australia giving information to israel which directly implicates australian officials and government in what israel is doing and gaza. this report went viral a few weeks ago. it explains how there is so much concern u.s.'s presence in australia and assisting israel and its war against gaza from australian shores should concern all of us deeply. amy: antony loewenstein, thank you for being with us. antony loewenstein is an independent journalist who has investigated how israeli weaponry and surveillance technology is used on palestinians and exported around the world. also a filmmaker and the author of many books, including his most recent, "the palestine laboratory: how israel exports the technology of occupation around the world." he was based in east jerusalem between 2016 and 2020.

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