12/13/23 12/13/23 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> we have come to the conclusion the course correction needed has not been secured. we have made in a criminal advisement over business as usual when what we really needed is an exponential change in our actions and support. amy: phase down but not

phaseout. the u.n. climate summit in dubai has ended with nations pledging to transition away from fossil fuels, but critics says the deal is filled with a litany of loopholes that will undermine efforts to combat the climate crisis. we will go to dubai for the latest. then the united nations general assembly votes overwhelmingly for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. the united states joined israel and just eight other nations opposing the ceasefire. in an exclusive interview, we will speak to a palestinian u.n. diplomat whose recent remarks on israel went viral. >> every person, according to israel, falls into one of these three categories -- a child, journalist, doctor, u.n. steph, newborn baby in an incubator. according to israel, it can kill them and then have the audacity to come to this room can tell the world with a straight face,

we are acting in accordance with international law. amy: we will speak with palestinian diplomat nada tarbush. then congressmember greg cassara president biden appears to be caving to republican demands for hardline border measures in exchange for funding the war in ukraine. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in gaza, witnesses say israeli soldiers shot displaced people that put blank range -- point-blank range after they raided shadia abu ghazala school in the northern al-faluja area. newborn babies were reportedly among the victims. heavy bombardment continues throughout the gaza strip, including in rafah and khan younis, where homes, businesses, and schools were leveled in israeli attacks.

in rough, resident -- in rafah, mohammed obaid joined rescue efforts tuesday as residents searched the rubble of a destroyed building that was attacked by israeli rocket fire, killing at least four children. >> help us. who is very is left will battle hunger, thirst. there is no electricity, no fuel, no water, no medicine. even the hospitals are suffering in dire need. even first-aid kits are not present in hospitals. the situation is disastrous in every sense of the word stop truce or note truce, we are busy with the daily battle with the water supply, electricity, medicine, fuel, the humanitarian situation this harder than they were with the rockets. -- war with the rockets. amy: at the kamal adwan hospital in gaza city, a doctor says over 70 medical staff were taken by israeli forces when they stormed

the hospital earlier this week. meanwhile, save the children announced a staffer and his family were killed by an israeli airstrike in gaza. sameh ewaida was 39 and the father of four young children, aged 2- to-12 years old. this comes as raids continue in jenin, killing at least six people tuesday. in east jerusalem, israeli forces bulldozed a palestinian residential building that housed 30 people. a haaretz report on a telegram channel said to be managed by the israel defense forces and provoked horror and comparisons to the abu ghraib military prison in iraq. the channel is called "72 virgins -- uncensored," posts graphic videos and images showing the killing and torture of palestinians. the images are usually accompanied by racist, such as "exterminating the roaches" and

joyful emojis. the u.n. general assembly on tuesday voted overwhelmingly to call for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. 153 u.n. members approved the resolution, 23 abstained, and just 10, including the united states, voted no. though non-binding, the u.n. vote is another indication of the mounting isolation of the qs as it continues to support israel's assault, which has killed at least 18,000 palestinians in a little over two months. australia, which abstained from voting for the general assembly ceasefire resolution in late october, is one of the latest u.s. allies to split with the biden administration's position. this is foreign minister penny wong. >> in doing so, we joined

canada, new zealand, japan, france, and india and many other countries. in israel doing so, we have said israel must respect international humanitarian law. amy: president biden delivered his sharpest criticism yet against prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying at a donor event the israeli leader "has to change" and that israel is losing international support, citing it's " indiscriminate bombing" in gaza. indiscriminate bombardment is a war crime. biden is meeting at the white house today with families of u.s. hostages abducted by hamas on october 7. for the first time ever, the u.n. climate summit ended with a global agreement to transition away from fossil fuels. the deal was announced earlier today in dubai as negotiations went into overtime and hailed as historic by cop28 president sultan al jaber. while the agreement was welcomed

as a step forward, climate activists and nations worst hit by the climate catastrophe warned it doesn't go nearly far enough. anne rasmussen of the alliance of small island states called out fellow delegates for passing the agreement, while representatives from the 39 states in her coalition were not in attendance and noted some of the deal's weaknesses. >> we have come to the conclusion that the course correction that is needed has not been secured. we have made an incremental advancement over business as usual when what we really needed is an exponential change in our actions and support. amy: we will go to dubai for the latest on this new agreement that says phase down, not phaseout fossil fuels. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy ended his high-stakes day in washington, d.c., tuesday with little progress on securing

additional war funding. president biden vowed the u.s. would support ukraine "as long as we can" and urged congress to pass his spending request of over $100 billion, which also includes funding for israel and taiwan, and further militarization of the u.s. border. pres. biden: need to first pass the supplemental funding for ukraine before they break for holiday recess, before they give putin the greatest christmas gift they could possibly give him. amy: house speaker mike johnson has tied continued ukraine fighting to hardline border requests that have been rejected by democrats. but reports have emerged the biden administration is considering yielding to republican demands in exchange for the funding. these include expanded immigration detention and deportations and a new border authority to expel migrants without due process. meanwhile, house republicans are expected to vote today on a

resolution to formalize an impeachment inquiry into president biden. in russia, prominent dissident and marxist theorist boris kagarlitsky has been released from jail. he was detained in july and accused of justifying terrorism for comments he made about the war in ukraine. his arrest sparked international condemnation. a court this week found him guilty and fined him the equivalent of $6600 but allowed him to walk free. prosecutors had been seeking a five-year prison term. to see our interview with boris kagarlitsky in december of last year, go to democracynow.org. in poland, donald sisk was put into -- tusk to become poland's new prime minister. in a speech tuesday, tusk expressed unwavering support for ukraine against russia's invasion and vowed to usher in smoother relations with the eu.

>> poland is and will be a key to strong, sovereign link of the north atlantic alliance that poland will be a loyal stable ally to the united states, confident in its reasons, important that poland will regain the position of leader of the european union. amy: hours before lawmakers voted tuesday to confirm tusk, and extreme right lawmaker used a fire extinguisher to put out the candles on the polish parliaments menorah, sparking widespread outrage in poland and beyond. india's supreme court upheld a 2019 move by the government revoking special status for indian-administered kashmir. the disputed muslim-majority region previously enjoyed a certain level of autonomy, but the government of hindu nationalist prime minister narendra modi scrapped article 370 four years ago in order to bring jammu and kashmir further

under the central government's control. pakistan rejected the ruling from india. this is the caretaker foreign minister jalil abbas jilani. >> the final disposition of jammu and kashmir and united nations and in accordance with the cashmere people -- hasmiri people. india has no right to make unilateral decisions on the status of this disputed territory against the kashmiri people and pakistan. amy: the arizona supreme court heard arguments tuesday over whether a civil war-era, near-total abortion ban should be reinstated, overriding the current 15-week abortion ban. this is democratic attorney general kris mayes. >> this specific case is about

the need to harmonize arizona statutes to ensure women aren't saddled with an 1864 law that was passed before arizona was a state, before women had the right to vote, and while the civil war was still raging. amy: after roe v. wade was overturned last year, some arizona counties reverted to the 1864 law which remained on the books but was not enforced since roe passed in 1973. the so-called zombie ban does not make exceptions for rape or incest and also bars anyone from assisting a pregnant person in getting abortion care. meanwhile, the new mexico supreme court is hearing arguments today over whether local governments can impose their own abortion bans even as the procedure remains legal in new mexico. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!,

democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman in new york, joined by democracy now!'s juan gonzález in chicago. hi, juan. juan: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: the u.n. climate summit in dubai has ended with nations pledging to transition away from fossil fuels, but critics says the deal is filled with a litany of loopholes that will undermine efforts to combat the climate crisis. the final text fails to explicitly call for a phase out of fossil fuels, which was backed by over 100 countries. instead, one key passage of the deal reads -- "transitioning away from fossil fuels in energy systems, in a just, orderly and equitable manner, accelerating action in this critical decade, so as to achieve net zero by 2050 in keeping with the science." the cop28 president sultan

al-jaber, who is the head of the abu dhabi national oil company, described the deal as historic. >> we have confronted realities and we have set the world in the right direction. we have given it a robust action plan to keep 1.5 within reach. it is a plan that is led by the science. it is a balanced plan that tackles emissions, bridges the gap on adaptation, reimagines global finance, and delivers on loss and damage. amy: cop28 president sultan al-jaber declared consensus on the final document early today even though a grouping of 39 island nations known as aosis,

the alliance of small island states, was not even in the room. the samoan negotiator anne rasmussen who is the chair of aosis criticized the final text. >> be just gaveled the decisions and the small island nations were not in the room. we worked hard to coordinate the states that are disproportionately affected by climate change, so we were delayed in arriving here. the questions we have considered as the alliance of small island states is whether they are enough. zoning in on paragraph 26 of this decision, we have come to the conclusion that the course correction that is needed has not been secured. we have made an incremental advancement over business as usual when what we really needed is an exponential change interactions and support. amy: critics have called out the

allowance of ill-defined transitional fuels as a major loophole of the deal, which also opens the door to false technological solutions they say to combat the climate crisis. african activists say the deal does not provide sufficient funding from wealthy, high polluting countries like the u.s. and european nations for poorer nations to shift away from fossil fuels. joining us now from dubai where we just came from at the site of the cop28 is asad rehman, the executive director of war on want and lead spokesperson for the climate justice coalition. welcome back to democracy now! as we see you now as the final document has been accepted, can you respond to overall what said and explicitly your concerns? >> first of all, thank you. the document has been accepted

and there's been a lot of discussion on the words around fossil fuel and whether this would signal the end of the era of deadly fossil fuels. while the word is there, the signal clearly is not. what we have seen is a lot a very weak text, lots of loopholes. you mentioned the transition fuels. they include one of the most polluting fossil fuel gas. none of the transition is funded, so that scale of the transition, particularly for developing countries, will be unable to be met. there are loopholes in terms of so much in risky technology. if you are in oil and gas parent and ceo, must be rubbing your hands with glee. this continues to be a license to pollute. words on the text might be --

the reality is you cap fool science and the reality that we actually need to transition fairly and equitably and speedily away from fossil fuels. but also addressing the real challenges many developing countries have with poverty and energy poverty as well. juan: i am wondering if you could comment on the presence and influence of industry trade groups, think tanks, and public relations agencies with a track record of climate denial is some , participating in this summit? >> after -- anybody who comes to these climate negotiations would be surprised probably how big a trade fest that sits alongside the actual negotiators. when company ceos and lobbyistss s peddle their influence on governments and negotiators but

also striking does with each other. the reality is it is not just here in dubai, they are also at work in the capitals in washington and london. that is why many negotiators, particularly from developing countries and climate justice groups, look at the fact the european union, the unit states and united kingdom were all making speeches saying one point five degrees is the north star their commitment to tackle fossil fuels while being responsible for over half of all new fossil fuel expansion all around the world. people know the reality. but what is being said here is empty words. reality back home is an expansion of those fossil fuels. there is a lack of trust that exists here. people realize over the decades, there have been plenty of broken promises whether it is on finance, whether it is on the united states send we don't want to cut even -- even discuss the fact we have not met our

previous pledges. what is happening here at these negotiations is the ripping out and guiding out of the responsibility and shifting responsibility to developing countries. that is an interest of these private companies. if you mentioned they are about climate finance, all around private capital. private capital is about making profit. and what they're proposing is governments who are deeply in debt, small public fiscal space, commit their public money to basically underwrite private corporations to be able to make profit. where they want to make profit is not in helping poor people be able to adapt to the realities of climate or adapt the fact we face huge economic, social, cultural losses from killer floods, fires, and famine. they want to take control of what little remains of these

countries and other public systems. juan: what about this whole issue of the most polluting nations assisting developing -- the developing world and global self in dealing with the climate catastrophe? >> that has been i suppose a big fish are running through all of these climate negotiations for the last 28 years. whether rich countries -- still overwhelmingly are responsible for the majority of the emissions in the atmosphere and per capita, that is overwhelming. 11% of the population is in the global north. overwhelmingly responsible for the majority of carbon in the atmosphere. those countries not only cut their missions but provide support in technology and finance.

a promise was made in 2009 for $100 billion. that has not been met. there is a big discussion that is going to have to take place next year whether climate finance is going to be on the base of need. the recognition that we're are really talking about is not just hundreds of millions, but billions and trillions. what was striking at the beginning of these negotiations was the united states pledged merely a few million into the loss and damage find. -- damage find. making request for hundreds of billions for bombs around the world. there's a disconnect between the reality of what is happening, the crisis developing countries face not just from climate but being trapped in unjust debt repayments, from broken economic system, from harming the resources being exploited. it also the reality rich

countries who have gone wealthiest are turning their back. this requires everybody to take action, but developing countries can only act if they are given support. amy: this is u.s. climate envoy john kerry speaking earlier today at the closing session of the u.n. climate summit. >> the fact is this document sends very strong messages to the world. first, the document highlights that we have to adhere to keeping 1.5 degrees within reach . that is the northstar. and we must do those things necessary to keep the 1.5, everything we can to achieve this goal. amy: that is john kerry. asad rehman, if you can respond? also, i think gore said on the draft final text, this is an agreement by and for petro states.

next year it is going to be in another petro state. can you talk about why this particular u.n. climate summit in the uae was so important? some are more important than others. >> the reason why this summit was very, very important is back when the paris agreement was signed by every country in the world, everybody recognized the promises that were being made particular by developed countries were so low that they were not going to keep the 1.5, the threshold and guardrail which we know as we begin to face runaway climate catastrophes, the impacts get deeper and faster and affect more people. after five years, we were meant to assess how much progress countries have made. how much they have cut their

emissions. how much finance they have provided. how much support they have given to countries to be able to adapt the fact climate is happening much faster than we thought with much more severely than we thought. and that conversation -- what we have seen is a document with the fingerprints of the united states, the u.k., and european union because what it talks about is only about cutting emissions but not about responsibility. so the idea of fairness, the idea of providing climate finance -- public climate finance is being frittered away. the only mentions of finance are about private capital. and a push to make developing countries have what they call an enabling environment. we have seen in real life what that enabling environment looks like. we have seen it in sri lanka,

pakistan, other countries that have faced these crisis of both debt and climate. it means you are lowering your environmental standards, your workers rights, making your economy much more attractive to private capital. that private capital needs to make profit. and what private capital wants's guarantees it will make that profit. so now the responsibilities for developing countries to guarantee that profit is utter madness. this is just one part of what was being negotiated here. we were meant also to negotiate a goal on adaptation. again, how would -- will countries, particularly in the global south were on the forefront of climate impacts, how will they be able to adapt? will they be provided with technology support? african countries have been severely impacted stop they wanted real concrete goals. they wanted a goal of finance,:

technology. how could they begin to plan? developed countries have said, we don't want that discussion. there will be no discussion about actual concrete action. incredibly, the one window of hope there is is that we know if we are able to transition away from fossil fuels, if we are able to transition from our broken system and from this unequal economic system, we will make people's lives better, fairer, or just where many people are struggling to make ends meet, where they cannot feed their families or heat their homes. that is called the just transition pathway. the united states does not want any country conversation. they just want -- amy: asad rehman, i want to end by asking you about what you are wearing. you have a lanyard on that is the color set the palestinian flag stop you have a pin of a

watermelon, the colors of the palestinian flag. we last saw you on friday when you were holding a news conference saying you are not allowed to protest about gaza or have signs that say "ceasefire now," get on saturday there was major demonstrations there that you were a part of. explain the issue that you tried to raise, the historic nature of what you did during this u.n. climate summit to the mentioning of political prisoners in the uae itself. >> the climate justice movements have always recognized the climate struggle is not simply about carbon. it is about these interwoven issues of justice. we are fundamentally -- what buys this movement together is the idea of solidarity.

for those on the frontlines of crisis whether indigenous movements, whether it is antiracism, fighting for black lives matter to the palestinian people, we are in the region where a few hundred miles away people are facing ethnic cleansing, indiscriminate bombing, and many of our colleagues and partners are there in this place where huge restrictions were put on us about whether we could even make the call about ceasefire now. whether we could raise the question of palestine. but i have to say the power of our movements organizing here said we refuse. we will stand for pakistan. we will make the call for ceasefire now. we will say it with us wrong voice -- with a strong voice. just as we did in egypt, we raise the issue of political prisoners here in the uae. alternately, this is a struggle about justice and an illegal and

unjust world where the powerful can do what they what against the powerless. what was shocking was yesterday john kerry said he tried to push through this text and said, we have never been in a position where the decisions we make will have life or death impact. all of us gasped. this is where politicians and our governments are so disconnected from the demands of realities of people. amy: asad rehman, thank you for being with this executive , director of war on want and lead spokesperson for the climate justice coalition. speaking to us from dubai. coming up as the u.n. general simile votes for humanitarian ceasefire in gaza, we bring you an exclusive. we will speak with the palestinian u.n. diplomat whose

recent remarks in geneva on israel went viral. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "lament for a dying ocean" by small island big song featuring putad. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. the united nations general assembly has voted overwhelmingly for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. in tuesday's vote, 153 nations approved the resolution, 23 abstained, just 10, including the u.s. and israel, voted no. though nonbinding, the u.n. the is an indication of the mounting isolation of the united states as it continues to support israel's assault, which has killed over 18,000 palestinians in a little over two months. the vote came just days after the united states vetoed a u.n. security council resolution calling for a ceasefire. meanwhile, president biden has delivered his sharpest criticism

yet up prime minister benjamin netanyahu. during a donor event in washington, d.c., biden criticized what he called israel 's "indiscriminate bombing" of gaza. in a moment we will be joined by nada tarbush. first, let's turn to a speech she gave in november at the u.n. in geneva. it went viral. >> israel said something that should make all of you shutter. it effectively said, i can count any and every person in gaza. the 2.3 million people in gaza are either terrorists or terrorist sympathizers or human shields and are therefore legitimate targets. every person according to israel falls into one of these three categories. a child, journalist, doctor, u.n. staff, a newborn baby in an incubator.

and so according to israel, it can kill them and then have the audacity to come to this room and tell the world with a straight face, we are acting in accordance with international law. the death of each of the over 11,350 people killed over the past month, be it children, journalists, u.n. staff, sick, elderly -- according to israel, it was justified. think about that for a moment and let it give you pause. anyone espousing this warped logic has no shred of humanity, no sense of morality, and no knowledge of legality. but guess what? your carpet explanation for carpet bombing will not fly. people are not fooled. the people in this room are seasoned diplomats who are well read, have the knowledge of

history, and many of whom have seen your governments make the same arguments during your previous military aggression on gaza in the past 15 years. they have seen you resort to collective punishment, targeting of palestinian children, journalists, medical staff, aid workers before. they have seen you forcibly transfer our communities, colonize our lands, demolish our homes, and evict families from their own properties since october 7 and for the 75 years that preceded it. amy: that was palestinian u.n. diplomat nada tarbush speaking november 17. at the time, the death toll in gaza from israel's assault was about 11,000. today it is over 18,600. nada tarbush is now in an exclusive interview from geneva

where she serves as counselor the permanent observer mission of the state of palestine to the united nations in geneva. i am wondering if you can start off by responding to the you in general simile is overwhelming call -- u.n. general assembly's call in response to the u.s. vetoing and the u.n. security council on friday, the ceasefire call, at the same time that looks like president biden is intensifying his criticism of netanyahu and the israeli bombardment criticizing indiscriminate bombing -- if you can just take that on? >> absolutely. first of all, thank you for having me. with regard to the unga vote, i want to put it in context for

the audience. this resolution was brought to the general assembly following the united states' veto on a resolution at the security council on friday that called for an immediate ceasefire. states invoked tools available in the united nations to whenever the security council is deadlocked to take the discussion to the general assembly. on a matter of international peace and security. so this is what happened. and the vote was unsurprisingly overwhelmingly for an immediate ceasefire. the significance this vote was that not only is it showing that the support israel had from many western states, especially, for its military assault on gaza is eroding and even staunch supporters of israel like australia and canada are now saying we need a ceasefire.

so what this shows is that israel is isolated. the united states is isolated. the general assembly, which is the world's parliament and which is the most democratic organizations, the united nations, says we overwhelmingly want an immediate ceasefire. at the same time -- and this is where sometimes we feel there is a parallel reality -- you hear the united states voting against -- using the united states voting against the resolution and at the same time where it is from the biden administration about israeli indiscriminate bombing. my comments on that would we believe in actions and not words when it comes to the u.s. government. i have heard words in the u.n. anyone would have thought were a good thing for the american suicide look we care about palestinian civilians. but this will not -- americans same look we care about

palestinian civilians. millions of dollars in military aid using american taxpayer money which it could use on other things like homelessness and health care and sending that aid to help israel commit a genocide. so i am not convinced that the biden administration has changed course. it is still voting against the ceasefire, vetoing security council resolutions, sending aid and giving israel diplomatic cover it needs. juan: nada tarbush, before october 7, both israel and the united states were comfortably -- comfortably believed the issue of palestine have been forgotten by the rest of the world. i'm wondering your sense of how the world has rallied in the recent two months in support of the palestinian cause?

>> i would say the world has never forgotten palestine -- unless by the world we mean the powerful militarized states like the united states and other european states or other states from the global north, let's say. the international community has year after year said -- called for a solution, called for an end to occupation, for an end to apartheid, into the settlement colonization project we see in the west bank. it is only a handful of powerful states that have been trying to get palestine off the agenda. and blocking any avenue to push for the rights of the palestine people under international law. juan: could you talk as well about your own family history as

it relates to palestine? your family fled in 48. in your powerful speech, you also talked about how relations between jews and palestinians were before the creation of israel. >> yes, absolutely. my family are refugees from 1948. my father was from a village near jerusalem which is one of the more than 450 villages that were completely destroyed during the nakba, which is the catastrophic events that led to mass ethnic cleansing of palestinians and to the most protracted refugee crisis in the world. and my mother also is from a city that became part of israel after 1948. palestine's history is one of

diversity, it is a multiethnic, multireligious land historically, which has hosted and welcomed all faiths, which has welcomed people of various ethnicities. it has always been a culturally diverse mosaic. and so this is why it is not surprising to me that many people don't see this land can be transformed into a state which is only for one people. and you have seen even in the early days of zionism, you had many jewish intellectuals like albert einstein, sigmund freud, and others who were against the idea of an exclusively jewish state in the historic land palestine. they thought that would cause

issues like ethnic cleansing, like not respecting and indeed violating the rights of the indigenous inhabitants. amy: in your speech that you gave at the u.n. in geneva, you refer to these remarks in march fight israel's far right west bank settler finance minister bezalel smotrich. >> there's no such thing as palestinians. there's no such thing as palestinian people. do you know who is palestinian? i am palestinian. amy: that is the finance minister, part of netanyahu's government smotrich. ,saying there is no such thing as palestinian. saying, i am palestinian. i am wondering if you can respond? >> yes, i can.

this is, again, not a surprising narrative. it is a narrative that we have been hearing for decades which is that israel does not want a palestinian state. a former israeli prime minister said there is no such thing as the palestinian people. palestinians have been dehumanized since the creation of israel and even before. in order to try to justify the settler colonial project. there was the myth of a land without a people and the people without a land. but there are people on this land and they are the palestinian people. for us to hear these kind of racist and colonialist slogans is consistent with what israel has been doing in terms of action throughout these years, which is to try and get rid of

the maximum a palestinian inhabitants from palestine, from the west bank, from gaza. and to try and replace them with israeli settlers. they are just saying explicitly what they have been doing. i think in gaza now, what we are saying is the continuation of this lissy of mass ethnic cleansing, of forced displacement, of trying to get rid of the palestinian population in order to take over the land. even the -- delight amy: you also note in the speech in september that netanyahu held up a map and what he called a new middle east that did not show palestine during his speech. it did not shut the west bank, east jerusalem, or gaza. explain what he is putting forward and then president biden now say to this group of donors

that -- he is criticizing netanyahu saying he is doing this in gaza because he does not want a palestinian, two state solution. >> indeed, yes was stuck again, this is not the first time the israelis have shown maps which completely delete the west bank and gaza and incorporate them into israel and call them israel . this has been done consistently. east jerusalem, west jerusalem were annexed. there are annexation policies happening with the construction of the wall and the whole settler colonial infrastructure. and in gaza, this is -- a similar project is underway. gaza and the west bank have been

occupied for 56 years. palestinian possession has taken place for 75 years. it is an ongoing nakba, a continuation of mass ethnic cleansing. the problem with them formally annexing these lands is they would have to give the right to vote for the palestinians, whose land they would be annexing. so instead they try to get rid of the palestinians before annexing the land but the land has been cleared and it is a plan to take over what remains of palestine -- which is very little. what remains of historic palestine, 22%, with the settlement that has reduced dramatically. they are trying to take over whatever little bits are left. amy: we want to thank you for being with us. nada tarbush, counsellor to the permanent observer mission of the state of palestine to the united nations in geneva. this is her first broadcast

interview since the video went viral of her address to the u.n. speech she gave in geneva. coming up, we speak with greg gosar as president biden appears to be caving to republican demands for hardline border measures in exchange for funding for the war in ukraine and beyond. back in 20 seconds. ♪ [music break]

amy: "cloud's teardrops" by terez sliman and yazim ibrahim. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we look now at how president biden appears to be caving to republican demands for hardline border measures in exchange for funding for the war in ukraine that also include a new crackdown on asylum-seekers and immigrants nationwide. this is cbs reporter camilo montoya-galvez. >> these changes include a new authority that would allow border agents to summarily expel migrants back to mexico or their home countries no questions asked without a some screening. similar to the title 42 policy that ended in may and also propels mandatory detention for the migrants who would be allowed to make a case for asylum. and finally, they would be open

to a nationwide expansion, something called removal which is a fast-track deportation process that is currently limited to the border region. amy: as negotiations on the request continue, we're joined from the canon rotunda on capitol hill by democratic congress member greg casar of texas. our co-host juan gonzález just joined congressman casar for a congressional briefing tuesday on u.s. latin america policy. welcome back to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. congressmember casar, if you can first respond to what is being negotiated at this point? progressive democrats send a president biden, you not only have to negotiate with republicans, have to negotiate with us, which includes you, congress member casar. >> good morning. thank you for having me on. it is a scary time here on capitol hill where republicans

in the senate are asking democrats to cave in and hand them some of the worst changes to our immigration system in decades. republicans and democrats have both said they support continued assistance to ukraine, but the republicans have held that hostage and have said, first, you have to throw immigrants families under the bus. this would mean closing legal pathways for migration here. and accelerating deportation and separation of immigrant families. in the mainstream media, this is often being reported as, well, are they going to trade border security for ukraine money? this has nothing to do changing or adding a situation at the border. what republicans are demanding is making it less easy to legally migrate and therefore fuel more irregular migration. they're talking about punishing families already in our cities and communities, dismantling the asylum system.

it is sick. what we are asking is for the biden administration to stop encouraging these talks come asking leader schumer to step in and say, if we want -- which is no we can't have democrats doing the republicans dirty work here. juan: as we discussed at the briefing yesterday, the united states has spent over $330 billion in the past 20 years on agencies that do border enforcement and yet we have record numbers of people attempting to cross the border. what can be done to get congress to finally address the issue of a much more comprehensive reform of our immigration system?

>> we have to actually want to improve the system for folks in the united states and for people migrating here. unfortunately, the right wing wants to keep the system is broken as possible so they can complain about it. it is classic case of the arsonist trying to blame the firefighters. in this case, republican policy -- frankly, even some conservatives and illiberal democratic policies -- has only fueled greater challenges. those policies are things like sanctions, imposing harsh sanctions in cuba, venezuela, nicaragua, forcing people were starving to migrate and then complaining about it. instead we should make sure people if they want to be able to stay at home stay in the home countries if they can't and open up legal pathways for migration. instead, the republican proposals, they would mostly

help cartel profits. they want to close legal pathways for migration, force people we're helping start have to move and oftentimes having to pay criminal organizations, then the republicans get to complain about it. we should say, let's open up more legal pathways for people to migrate here. open up the ability for people to ask for parole and get on a plane and fly here and get a work permit quickly. that would relieve a lot of what you're seeing on the tv at the border, things better for latin america and the united states. instead, we insist on punishing latin america, and people out of their home countries, and the not opening up legal pathways for them to migrate. amy: juan, you and congressmember greg casar were part of a panel yesterday called 200 years is enough, moving past the monroe doctrine toward a new era in u.s.-latin america relations.

the push at this moment, because they house speaker says they go home at the end of the week if they don't get their way on the border, biden is desperate to get money for ukraine, so we don't know at this point what is going to happen. mcconnell says there's no way they can do this before christmas. but put this in that broader 200 year context. you wrote that incredible book that is now textbook in so many college classes called "harvest of empire." talk about how this fits in with the monroe doctrine and what that was. juan: the monroe doctrine for 200 years has been the basic policy that the united states has pursued in the entire western hemisphere, but especially toward latin america, telling european and other colonial powers, you stay out of the western hemisphere, this is our backyard, in essence, that has been reused repeatedly by u.s. presidents and congress to

invade countries in latin america, to foment clandestine or covert operations, to remove leaders that were not sufficiently obedient to the united states. it never has really been repealed or refuted by u.s. leaders. there was a small attempt by john kerry during the obama administration to claim it was over, but president trump backtracked on that and went back to the bullying of the united states and latin america. i am wondering, congressman casar, your sense of the prospects for being able to have a new policy for latin america in the future? >> it is time for us to leave that 200 year monroe doctrine legacy behind us. and i think a small number of progressives who start open up a window to a new relationship

with latin america are going to carve the path forward here. because instead of spending our limited resources on things you have covered, juan, overthrowing the government in guatemala and the invasion of cuba, army contra rebels in nicaragua, currently continued to starve and said a few people places like cuba and venezuela, instead of engaging in that does not help latin america or here, we can create a new partnership. i was just in chile for nearly the anniversary of us helping overthrow the chilean government allende. part of the reason we did that is because we wanted to protect the united states and chilean elites in the copper industry. that was disastrous. 70 people died. it helped no one. finally, can have a conversation about how to support one another and rising authoritarianism? how as we head toward a renewable and more resilient future they have instead the resources for us to create

batteries -- how to create those together a major working-class people in chile in the united states benefit, not just big corporations? there is a real ability for us to work together to address migration. that would benefit our constituents and our communities. i think folks would get reelected on that kind of work in latin america rather than continued invasions. amy: do you think president biden hears you? what do you think is going to happen, your prediction? >> what i can tell you for sure is that you're going to see increased pressure coming from hispanic, black, and asian members of congress, progressive members of congress. you will see us delivering letters and press conferences to say no vote on this package. amy: congressmember greg casar, democrat from texas. we will also link to tuesday's congressional briefing, 200 years is enough, moving past the

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