07/10/24 07/10/24 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> we were by the school gates. i went to get things for my children when the strike hit. people were flying in all directions. there were no ambulances. it took about an hour and 40 minutes to arrive. civilians who are not affiliated

with hamas or any other faction. amy: israel has ordered all civilians to leave gaza city a day after an israeli airstrike on a school near khan younis killed at least 30 displaced palestinians, including many and -- many women and children. we will go to gaza. then d.c.. dozens of world leaders are in d.c. to mark the 75th anniversary of the nato military alliance. we will speak to a german lawmaker who came to d.c. to protest the summit. >> we need peace instead of nato. we need to stand up for democratic and popular sovereignty and to reject indignity -- which is about all we have got from the ruling coalition in berlin.

peace, not nato. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. israel's army has dropped leaflets across gaza city ordering all residents to leave their homes and shelters immediately, setting off a fresh wave of panicked evacuations. on tuesday, at least 30 palestinians were killed in an israeli airstrike on a school housing displaced people near khan younis. eyewitnesses said the israeli attack resulted in body parts flying through the air. most of the dead were women and children. >> suddenly without warning, rockets were fired toward a number of people. they are not fighters. they did not have any weapons and were not involved in any resistance operations. they were civilians and mostly

children. i was there. the people killed were critically wounded. none of us had any weapons or anything related to the resistance. it was an khan younis at the gates of the school used as a shelter. amy: the palestinian ministry of health in gaza decried the attack as a "a heinous massacre against displaced citizens." it was the fourth israeli attack on a school over the past four days in gaza. on tuesday, a panel of 10 united nations independent experts declared in an open letter that israel has engaged in a campaign of starvation and genocide in gaza. michael fakhri, the u.n. special rapporteur on the right to food , and others write -- nine "we declare that israel's intentional and targeted starvation campaign against the palestinian people is a form of genocidal violence and has resulted in famine across all of gaza. we call upon the international community to prioritize the delivery of humanitarian aid by land by any means necessary, end

israel's siege, and establish a ceasefire." after headlines, we'll go to gaza to speak with journalist akram al-satarri. in the occupied west bank, mourners laid the body of 13-year-old palestinian ghassan gharib zahran to rest tuesday. the boy was good when israeli troops fired live ammunition at several children during a raid in rafah -- problem. it brings the number of dead to more than 570,137 of them are children. members of the united nations security council have condemned russia's assault on civilian sites across ukraine monday morning that killed at least 42 people and injured 300 others. among the dead were two adults killed when russia bombed ukraine's largest children's hospital in kyiv and seven people who died when russia struck a maternity and fertility clinic in kyiv. this is u.n. emergency relief coordinator joyce msuya. >> let me remind this council

that hospitals have special protection under international humanitarian law post intentionally directing attacks against a protected hospital is a war crime and perpetrators must be held to account. amy: russia's u.n. ambassador, who chaired tuesday's security council meeting, blamed ukrainian air defenses for the explosion at the children's hospital. that's a finding contradicted by a u.n. human rights monitor that -- monitor. the u.n. says more than 11,000 civilians across ukraine have been killed and 22,000 injured since russia's 2022 invasion. healthcare facilities and medical workers have faced nearly 1900 attacks. president biden has welcomed heads of state from nato memberr talks marking the 75th anniversary of the nuclear-armed military alliance. biden opened the three-day summit tuesday evening with a speech that celebrated nato's

expansion from 12 nato states in 1949 to 32 nations today. biden pledged further nato support for ukraine against russia's invasion. pres. biden: will provide ukraine with the equipment for five additional strategic air defenses. in the not moving -- in the coming months, provide additional tactical air defense. the united states will make sure when we export critical air defense interceptors, ukraine goes to the front of the line. amy: on tuesday, president biden awarded the presidential medal of freedom -- the united state'' highest civilian honor -- to outgoing nato secretary general jens stoltenberg. we'll have more on the nato summit later in the broadcast. indian prime minister narendra modi has wrapped up a two-day visit to moscow, where he met with russian president vladimir putin. it was modi's first visit to russia since putin's 2022 invasion of ukraine.

modi has so far refused to condemn russia's actions and has abstained from u.n. votes denouncing the invasion. india remains the second-largest purchaser of russian oil after china. after the talks, modi offered limited criticism of putin's attacks on ukraine. >> war, conflict, or terrorist attack of any person who believes in humanity feels pain when they see death, especially when innocent children are killed. the sight of innocent children dying shatters your heart. that pain is terrifying. i did discussion on the issue with you. amy: on tuesday, putin awarded modi the order of saint andrew the apostle, russia's highest civilian award. ukrainian president volodimir zelensky blasted modi for his literal embrace of putin. on social media, zelensky wrote --

"it is a huge disappointment and a devastating blow to peace efforts to see the leader of the world's largest democracy hug the world's most bloody criminal in moscow on such a day." marine le pen has joined hungary's prime minister viktor orbán in a new conservative coalition in the european parliament. the alliance, dubbed patriots for europe, is the largest-ever far-right bloc in the parliament's history. this comes just days after a newly formed leftist coalition defeated le pen's national rally party in sunday's final round of a heated snap parliamentary election in france. jordan bardella, who was poised to be the national rally's candidate, is now president of the new eu far-right bloc. italy's far-right leader matteo salvini also announced plans to join the alliance, which also includes members of spain's vox party. this comes as french prosecutors have launched an investigation into marine le pen's 2020 coup campaign finances -- 2022 campaign finances. the west african bloc ecowas

says the region is facing disintegration after three military-ruled countries established their own bloc over the weekend. burkina faso, mali, and niger -- which all experienced military takeovers in recent years -- have formed the alliance of sahel states, or aes, holding their own weekend meetings as a counterpoint to the ecowas summit in abuja, nigeria. this comes amid further moves to cut military and other ties with former colonizer france and other western powers. on sunday, the u.s. military withdrew from niger's air base in the capital niamey ahead of its upcoming withdrawal from a $110 million u.s. drone base. niger ordered u.s. troops to depart the country in march. two top democratic senators have called on the justice department to open a criminal probe into supreme court justice clarence thomas on potential violations of ethics, false statement, and tax laws. senator sheldon whitehouse of

rhode island and ron wyden of oregon are urging attorney general merrick garland to appoint a special counsel to investigate thomas' failure to disclose lavish gifts and luxury travel and other perks gifted to thomas by wealthy friends, including billionaire conservative megadonor harlan crow. the senator said in a statement, "no government official should be above the law." another democratic congress member has called on president biden bow out of the presidential race following his disastrous performance in a debate against donald trump last month when biden appeared disjointed, confused, and frequently lost his train of thought. on tuesday, new jersey congressmember mikie sherrill said in a statement -- "because i know president biden cares deeply about the future of our country, i am asking that he declare that he won't run for reelection and will help lead us through a process toward a new nominee." it was at least the 10th such call by house democrats. members of the uncommitted movement to democratic voters have asked the democratic national committee to adopt a

statement critical of israel's assault on gaza. the movement will be sending 29 uncommitted delegates to the democratic national convention in chicago next month and is preparing to back a democratic presidential candidate who supports a permanent ceasefire in gaza and an arms embargo on israel's war and occupation. this is elianne farhat, an uncommitted delegate from minnesota. >> people of all faiths and backgrounds got into the uncommitted movement because what we saw was because of a flawed policy in gaza with incredible pain and suffering and death and horror on palestinian people. the multiracial, multigenerational coalition we need to beat donald trump is fraying. the stakes of the november election are too high for anyone to sit this one out. amy: in wisconsin, a federal judge has banned protesters from marching through a security zone at the republican national convention, which will be hosted in milwaukee next week. the aclu of the coalition to

march on the rnc 2024 filed saying the city's restrictions on protesters violated free speech rights. the suit was dropped following news of the ruling. democracy now! will be in milwaukee next week. watch our extended daily two-hour broadcast "breaking with convention: war, peace and the presidency." we will be in milwaukee next week and in chicago for another week of two our daily broadcasts for the democratic national convention. a warning to our audience, this story contains graphic descriptions of violence. in more news from wisconsin, community advocates are demanding justice for dvontaye mitchell, a 43-year-old black father who died last month after he was violently pinned to the ground by four security guards outside a hotel in downtown milwaukee. footage shows the security guards pressing mitchell down on his stomach with their hands and knees as mitchell is heard

crying out for help. the incident came after mitchell was pushed out of the hyatt regency hotel, located just a few minutes from where thousands of republicans will gather to nominate donald trump for president at the rnc next week. civil rights attorney ben crump, who is representing mitchell's family, said a witness reported seeing one of the guards also striking mitchell on the head with an object. mitchell's death has been compared to the police murder of george floyd in 2020. mitchell's family said he suffered from mental health issues and depression following his father's death in 2016 and described him as loving. the medical examiner's office determined the preliminary cause of death as a homicide but the investigation is ongoing. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as ceasefire talks are being held in doha, israel is intensifying its war on gaza. earlier today, the israeli military ordered the full evacuation of all civilians from gaza city. al jazeera reports tuesday was

the deadliest day in gaza in weeks. at least 30 people were killed in an israeli airstrike on a school housing displaced people near khan younis. most of the dead were reportedly women and children. it was the fourth israeli attack on a school over the past four days in gaza. al jazeera aired footage showing children playing soccer at the school at the time of the blast. amy: the palestinian ministry of health in gaza decried the attack as "a heinous massacre against displaced citizens." eyewitnesses said the israeli attack resulted in body parts flying through the air.

>> we were sitting safely in the afternoon, somewhat settled. suddenly, a missile was fired. i'm not sure what kind. the schools were overcrowded with people and the street was full. suddenly, a missile hit and destroyed the whole place. there were bodies and body parts. bodies blue. body parts flew in the air. i don't know how to describe it. people sitting safely selling goods, making a living to provide for children. i don't know what happened. why would they hit us like that? amy: we go now to gaza where we are joined by journalist akram al-satarri. he is joining us from outside the al-aqsa hospital in deir al-balah in central gaza. i know there is a time delay, but if you can describe exactly what has happened and what is been described as the deadliest 24 hours in a number of weeks?

>> the deadliest 24 hours in a number of months rather than weeks. heavy bombardment taking place in different parts of the gaza strip, including gaza north, gaza city, khan younis area most of in khan younis, 27 people out of 56 people in the last 24 hours were killed in that area. one shelter that was used by hundreds of families in one area used by families as a shelter outside of the school were targeted by three missiles. heavy loss amongst them. 27 children, women, elder people were killed. more than 52 other people were killed. in another area, 24 hours ago, witnessed a large scale incident where around 19 palestinians

were killed and around 70 others were injured. rafah has been witnessing large-scale bombardment taken the lives of palestinians. gaza central area, targeting incident where around nine people were killed in a heavy crowded area in the middle of a refugee camp where thousands of displaced people were there and were trying to secure their very basic needs. characterizing a great deal of lack of essential supplies for the people who are in need. the bombardments are technically everywhere in the gaza strip. the people who are bearing the brunt of those bombardments are the palestinian displaced people and the palestinians from khan younis, rafah, gaza city and the north who have been asked to move from their areas. in the khan younis area, palestinians were asked to head

from the eastern part of the city to the western side of the city. and gaza, around 300,000 palestinians are already asked by the israeli forces to leave gaza city and go south. overall, a tense situation that has been exacerbated followed by the developer and taken place that only because of the bombardment but rather because of the very large-scale displacement. it reminds the palestinians of the first days of the war and even worse than that. amy: can you tell us about the reports that flyers are being dropped all over gaza city telling everyone to leave? what exactly this means? we are seeing the palestinian red crescent has said its teams are receiving dozens of humanitarian distress calls from

residents in gaza city where the ambulances and medics are not able to enter because the red crescent described the intensity of the bombardment of the area? what is happening in gaza city? >> the intensity of the bombardment in that area, gaza area with the israeli forces asking around 400,000 palestinians were living in gaza, including also internally displaced people, to head south. they were describing the route and saying they are safe routes to make it to that shelters as described by the israeli forces. fortunately, there is no safe haven in gaza. no place is safe according to the descriptions made by the commercial general of the u.n. that means -- not only in gaza

city where thousands are but also in khan younis where there is a quarter million palestinians that were asked to move to the western parts of the city. it is leading to more despair, more displacement, and are likely to lead to more destruction once the israeli occupation forces start to destruction in that area which they have started at a large-scale elsewhere which are main neighborhoods in gaza. including a historical place that has already been targeted by the israeli forces. a significant portion of it was destroyed. amy: i'm looking at a piece in

"the guardian" describing footage broadcasting al jazeera showing children playing football in the school's yard when a sudden boom shook the area, prompting shouts of "a strike, a strike." if you can explain what happened when the kids were playing soccer? >> apparently, obviously, there were targeted by the israeli occupation forces. this is one of the incidents that was documented by the cameras. unfortunately, hundreds more incidents are taking place without cameras capturing the horror. families were divided. according to one of my friends who was there who is a doctor, they received 27 bodies of one family and the only surviving

member was a 26-year-old -- 26-day-old child. many incidents are taking place. many lives are wasted. when you look at the way people are living there were targeted, you come to the conclusion that people were just not doing anything. they were not engaging in combat activities. they were not fighting. they were just plain people seeking -- and ms. the escalating military situation, exacerbating humanitarian crisis. they were sent to find some kind of peace when their lives were taken. i think most of them, not only dead, but some are losing their limbs and and depths physically disabled. some of them losing their site. some of the children were losing

their eyes and the ability -- one of them lost four limbs, a child, baby boy who lost his four limbs. i don't think you can ever be able to imagine the level of distress that has been caused. people have been communicating with the red crescent society or people who were trapped under the rubble of their homes. the story of a family that was targeted in gaza city and around 19 family members were killed and the only survivor who was 19 years old was communicating with the palestinian red crescent and was telling them he cannot help his family and that his mother was killed and that she is on his lap and his father is screaming from under the rubble and seeking help and his brother and sisters were also seeking help by screaming and no one could help them because the palestinian red crescent society cannot go to those areas were some fighting is taking place.

otherwise, they would be targeted. we have different incidents where the palestinian red crescent society teams were targeted. even international organizations like the world central kitchen and other organizations, unrwa, were targeted and they ended up losing some of their stuff. amy: unrwa, their headquarters were hit. the general wrote today -- four schools hit in the last days."

again, those are the words of the unrwa commissioner general, the palestinian relief and works agency. your comment on the ground, akram, and if you can also respond to whether people on the ground are hearing about the negotiations that are taking place -- it was in cairo, now in doha -- around the ceasefire? >> landslide majority of the palestinians -- they don't have internet, they don't have electrical supplies, they don't have access to any communication whatsoever so unfortunately, most of them in the past were trying to go to the places where they have electrical supplies because -- now people are extremely busy

surviving. they have been linking any talk about the negotiation and any analysis about any breakthrough when it comes to negotiation with what is taking place on the ground. when they talk about negotiations, they understand the israeli government will start large-scale nilla terry will they will be targeting -- military where they will be targeting gaza. they were talking about the negotiations and the media and the day after, the israeli occupation forces started the large-scale gun operation in gaza and now they're asking 400,000 gazans to leave gaza city and moved to the south of gaza. there asking a quarter million to move to the other half of khan younis. -- can eventually lead to a ceasefire or peace or safety or

whatever has to do with the rest of humanitarian -- who has been haunted by the loss and fear of imminent death. palestinians are struggling. unfortunately, most of them don't have access to the internet so they cannot continue following the news. they have seen it with their own eyes. i believe the ones who were killed in khan younis come the 27 family members and the 52 others injured in a shelter that was supposed to be protected according to the international law and unrwa facility, they fully understand now this is just a talk until something tangible happens, until some sense of safety happens and they can return to normalcy -- some normalcy in their lives. they have seen unrwa struggling

with providing them with life-saving medication, food, water, nonfood items. however, they understand -- not listening to any call except the call of war and fighting. they have been the prime targets of that unleashed power and fire that is targeting them. as you can hear in the background, more injured people are coming to the hospital and the bombardment still ongoing. people are still killed. they understand nothing serious has been done to stop that. neither by the international community, nor by the different u.n. agencies that are mandated to condemn the atrocities and to stop them as well and hold accountable the perpetrator of those. amy: i want to thank you for being with us, akram al-satarri, journalist based right now, speaking to us outside the al-aqsa hospital in deir al-balah in central gaza. please be safe yourself.

the latest news out of gaza when it comes to journalists, well, the gaza government media offices office says over 150 palestinian journalists have been killed. most recently, two were killed friday following an israeli raid that targeted a home. the new york-based committee to protect journalists says well over 100 media workers have died since october 7. the committee to protect journalists are saying the killing of journalists in gaza makes it the deadliest period since cpj, the committee to protect journalists, began gathering data in 1992. coming up, dr. mustafa barghouti, palestinian, physician, activist and politician who is usually in ramallah but is in washington, d.c., right now.

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amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. a panel of u.n. independent experts has accused israel of engaging in a campaign of starvation and genocide in gaza. the u.n. special rep. trone: the right to food and the other experts right, "we declare this was intentional and targeted starvation campaign against posting and people is a form of genocidal violence and has resulted in famine across all of gaza and we call upon the international community to prioritize the delivery of humanitarian aid by land, by any means necessary, end siege and establish a ceasefire." the effects of the famine are being felt across gaza. this is a palestinian mother

speaking from nasser hospital in khan younis next to her son. >> my son suffers from malnutrition due to the war and because of the food he is eating. before the war, he used to eat all kinds of food -- meats, eggs, kinds. now things have gone up in price where there is shortage two to the closing of the crossing. a week ago, i was with him here in the hospital and every day his health is deteriorating. my wish is that my child recovers and gets back to how he was before the war and that he finds his rights like any other child. i hope his health improves to how it was before the war. i wish i don't lose my child. looking at him lying in front of me, i feel he is dying in front of my eyes and i can't do anything for him. amy: we're joined now by dr. mustafa barghouti, palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as general

secretary of the palestinian national initiative. he usually joins us from ramallah and the occupied west bank but today is joining us from washington, d.c. welcome back to democracy now! if you can start off by responding to that woman who is sitting next to her dying, starving son? >> well, there are no words to describe the feelings of this woman. what we see today is a purposeful act of starvation, one form of war crime where israel is using starvation as an instrument of war. that is why unicef has been warning the last few days that 50,000 children now are at risk of death and famine because of the starvation policy of the israeli government.

that is horrifying. if you allow me, i what to alert you to something even more important. i think what we're witnessing today, probably the most dangerous day and this whole war on gaza. this whole aggression on gaza. the israeli army is trying to evict hundreds of thousands of people from gaza city, from northern parts of gaza, in an effort to completely ethnically cleanse gaza city. there threatening people that they will bombardment -- babar them if they don't move. the people are refusing to leave. they say we are ready to even face death but not leave one more time by the terrible israeli forces who are trying to ethnically cleanse us. we cannot take this insult one more time. i think that is why it is dangerous. i want to explain that what

netanyahu is doing now with his -- what his fascist government doing now and gaza is trying to achieve through this terrible been barred met you just described which took the lives of more than 40 people and through this act of trying to ethnically cleanse all the population of gaza city, i think he is aiming at three goals. the first one is to undermine completely any negotiations that are taking place to achieve a cease. and any negotiation to stop this aggression that is taking place on the people of gaza. second, i think this reveals the real intention of netanyahu and gallant and also the israeli government has not changed. the main goal is the total ethnic cleansing of all of gaza people and all of the gaza strip. and finally, i think this shows netanyahu's intention is to maintain the occupation of gaza. he wants to completely

ethnically cleanse the whole of north of gaza and gaza city as well and then concentrate the israeli occupation in that area and then move forward. that fits well with the news we have just received that the israeli army it has already started building permanent bases of the military in the northern part and in gaza city. this is a very dangerous element, dangerous moment. it will carry in itself two major risks -- total ethnic cleansing of gaza city with an addition to that terrible, terrible massacres that could happen because people are refusing to leave and the israelis will start bombarding. this would not have happened if it were not for this terrible sadness from the whole world. if it wasn't from the cover that was provided to the israelis, including, the american administration.

if no moves are made immediately by the whole world community, by the international criminal court which should issue the indictment of both netanyahu and gallant come at the international court of justice does not immediately issue an order of stopping this terrible genocide in this terrible war on gaza and if the world community does not engage immediately on pressuring israel and even threatening sanctions of israel, this netanyahu government will leave the situation into the most terrible massacre since the beginning of this terrible aggression on gaza, which has already taken the lives of no less than 48,000 people. maybe even more than that. there are 87,000 people who are injured, many of whom will not continue to live because there's no medical facility to treat them since israel destroyed most of the medical facilities. i've been talking to the medical

relief teams in gaza and they tell me in gaza city now, there is no service whatsoever except medical relief because the baptist hospital has been forced to be evacuated. people are there without doctors, without proper care. our guys are trying to help them in every possible way but the whole of gaza city is now without medical services except the mobile teams of medical relief. that is a very dangerous situation. it could exacerbate in every possible way and that is why what i'm talking about is an air -- urgent situation. this is an urgent call to the whole world, to united nations, humanitarian organizations, to the people who want to save lives of palestinian people that they should move immediately because what we could see now is a terrible, terrible development, not only of ethnic cleansing, but horrible massacres that could take place against the palestinian people of gaza. amy: mustafa barghouti, we

usually speak to you in ramallah . why are you in washington, d.c.? what is your demand of the biden administration? as you can see, if you're watching any of the media in the u.s., there is very little television coverage of what is happening in gaza. it is all about biden's mental health and his physical diminishment. if you can talk about -- yet there's a nato summit happening right now with world leaders gathered in washington, d.c. what are your demands on not only biden but the others as well? >> as you know, for 7.5 years i was never granted a visa to come here. so i don't know by a strike of luck or because there was so much pressure from the palestinian community here which invited me to come and speak to them, and that was the main purpose of my visit here, to speak to palestinian activists, the palestinian community in the

united states. i got one entry visa and decided to use it. i am also trying to meet as many leaders as possible, as many people in the media and to alert them to what is happening in gaza and to mobilize every possible resource to help the people of gaza but also to stop this terrible aggression. my message to those meeting in washington is very clear -- you are playing with fire. what is happening in gaza is showing the whole world they're is no international law anymore. that there is no respect whatsoever anymore for the so-called human rights. all your talks about human rights and democracy and all your talks about international order are out of the window. they mean nothing now when the whole world sees israel is enjoying the utmost amount of impunity, the utmost amount of support while it is committing this terrible massacre.

$20 billion in military aid from your administration, the american administration, from your taxpayers to those who are committing now three war crimes in parallel -- genocide, ethnic cleansing, and collective punishment, including starvation of children and women and civilians. this is unacceptable. what is happening and gaza will have a terrible impact on the whole world because it sends one message, that there is no international law anymore. that there are no human rights anymore. that anybody who is power can do whatever they want whenever they want and as they want. that is the message that is getting out. that is going to be terribly undermining situation for the security and safety and peace all over the world. i think the responsible here is the biden administration who could have done much more to stop this war and stop this atrocity.

i now the ethnic cleansing of no less than 400,000 people is just about to happen, leading to make the total ethnic cleansing of gaza, this is the moment when people have to interfere. there is an element of urgency. people have to move. i am telling you, the message i got from the people of gaza today -- i have just been talking to them -- they say we are not going to leave. we're not going to listen to israeli instructions. we will die and not leave our homes. we will die and not leave our homes. we're not going to be subjected to this israeli imposition of ethnic cleansing. that is why i'm saying there is a very important element of urgency here and people have to move very quickly and very soon to stop this terrible atrocity that netanyahu and his fascist government with people like smotrich and ben-gvir are just about to commit. amy: the biden administration has been saying the u.s. ceasefire proposal has been

supported by netanyahu, though he denied that, but was being obstructed by -- not accepted by hamas. hamas says they will except a ceasefire proposal even though it is not immediately calling for a permanent ceasefire but netanyahu -- i want to read from "the times of israel" -- security officials were caught off guard when prime minister netanyahu publicly announced a list of non-negotiables for the ongoing hostage negotiations with hamas, the hebrew media is reporting. i named security official told a new site the statement by netanyahu's office was inappropriately harming that cases of bringing the hostages back home. can you talk about the state of negotiations down in doha? you have the head of u.s.

intelligence, israeli intelligence, are there. what is happening? do you agree with some of the israeli officials who are saying it was meant to derail this last negotiation? >> i think everybody in israel knows, every intelligence person in the united states probably knows that the reality is that netanyahu is continuously undermining any possibility of reaching an agreement. he played games several times. there was a moment a few months ago when a proposal was presented to hamas and the americans said israel was accepting the proposal, hamas accepted it, but then netanyahu retreated and undermined it. when mr. biden announced his initiative saying it is an israeli proposal, netanyahu never confirmed that. when it got to serious

negotiations, hamas said they are accepting and showed flexibility, to my knowledge, netanyahu is not escalating situation in gaza. this is not the first time he does that. when he is trying out to ethnically cleanse 400,000 people from gaza city, how could negotiations work? so netanyahu continues to play games to undermine any possibility of an agreement. this man doesn't care about the israeli prisoners. he wants them all killed most of he doesn't care about the lives of any of them most of the families of these prisoners know that very well. all netanyahu cares about is his own personal interest. that is not only my opinion, it is of so many israeli leaders. i think netanyahu wants to continue this war as long as it takes and he wants to avoid the fact -- because he knows very well the end of this war will

mean the end of his political career. he will be investigated for his failure on the october 7. you will be investigated for his failure in running this war. and he will also be presented to the courts for four cases of corruption that are following him, each of which would take him -- he doesn't care about anybody. he cares only about himself. as i said i wanted your programs, this man is willing to kill his mother to stay in power and now he is risking the lives of hundreds of thousands of palestinians and maybe the lives of many israelis because all he cares about is his own interest. but that is not only simply as personal interest, he is sitting in a government that is increasingly fascist. he has fascist people in his government like smotrich and ben-gvir and these people want a total and complete ethnic cleansing of all palestinians. they speak frankly and openly.

about executing all palestinian prisoners. that all palestinians must be evicted not only from gaza but from the west bank. smotrich keeps telling we should go the west bank was settlements and settlers of palestinians will lose a state of their own and then have to live, which is ethnic cleansing, or except subjugation, which is apartheid, or die. which is the genocide they're trying to commit now in gaza. it is a terrible situation. netanyahu will not be restrained except with palestinians sanctions immediately on his government. amy: dr. mustapha barghouti, thank you for being with us, palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as general secretary of the palestinian national initiative. usually in ramallah, speaking to us for the first time in years from washington, d.c. coming up, dozens of war leaders

are in washington to mark the 75th anniversary of the nato military alliance. we will speak with a german lawmaker who came to d.c. to protest the summit. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "soldier in the army of love" of tom marella featuring his son. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. president biden is hosting heads of state from nato member nations for a three-day summit in washington, d.c., to mark the 75th anniversary of the nuclear-armed military alliance. nato has expanded from 12 founding member states to sweden 32. is at the summit as a full nato member for the first time. now ukraine's path to membership in the alliance is "irreversible" according to a leaked version of a joint declaration expected to be released today.

in his opening address, president biden pledged further nato support for ukraine against russia's invasion. pres. biden: the united states, germany, the netherlands, romania, and israel will provide ukraine with equipment for five additional strategic air defenses. in the coming months, the u.s. and our partners will provide ukraine with dozens of tactical air defenses. the united states will make sure that when we export critical air defense interceptors, ukraine goes to the front of the line. amy: also on tuesday, biden awarded the presidential medal of freedom to outgoing nato secretary general jens stoltenberg. the incoming nato head is former dutch prime minister mark rutte, who has been called "the trump whisperer" for an episode in 2018 when he convinced trump that nato funding from other countries was increasing as trump had demanded. rutte is seen as someone who

could deter trump from leaving nato if he is re-elected. over this past weekend, and anti-nato protest was held in washington, d.c.. speakers included sevim dagdelen . >> we need peace instead of nato. we need at long last to stand up for democratic and popular sovereignty and to reject the indignity of being a basil state of washington, which is just about all we have gotten from the ruling coalition in berlin. peace not nato. amy: german lawmaker sevim dagdelen joins us now, still in washington, d.c. she is a member of the german parliament with the wagenknecht alliance and member of the nato parliamentary assembly. her forthcoming book is titled "nato: a reckoning with the atlantic alliance." her new piece for consortium

news is headlined "75 years of nato = 75 years of denial." welcome back to democracy now! if you can explain why you came to washington, d.c., and give us your history of nato, what you think is most important to understand. >> thank you for having me, amy. i think the most important thing about the history of nato is that it is a history of denial. that they have three great myths. the first is that it is a defense alliance. and at least after 1999 with the aggression against the federal republic of yugoslavia, we know it is a war alliance. they breached international law. they were bombing for 79 days. even television stations, the chinese embassy, and 20 years of war in afghanistan, the

aggression again in iraq, 2011 against libya that shows us a lie of a defensive alliance. the second is they are in alliance collective of democracy against authoritarian regime. this is a historic lie, just one example, one example, one of the founding member states was under salazar who tortured african in concentration camps in mozambique, angola. so nato has no problem with fascist dictators. even the bilateral treaty between the united states and the spanish dictator franco was at stake. and the third myth of nato is they are and alliance of values and human rights.

how can you talk about human rights and values if you still have the torture center in guantanamo bay where people are tortured in the war on terrorism of the united states or 14 years of prosecution of torture against a journalist like julian assange whose crime was to expose u.s. war crimes in iraq or nato war crimes in afghanistan or even, according to the well-known brown university in the united states, that in the last 20 years, the wars of the united states and their allies killed more than 4.5 million people? and it will look to gaza, which is unconditionally supported by the united states and nato, and especially, for example, from germany, we see it is hypocrisy

to talk about human rights of their complicit to all the crimes done by the israeli government. i mean, killing 15,000 children in gaza, cannot justify that with the legitimate right of self-defense but this war was more than 15,000 dead children is not an act of self-defense anymore. the nato is complicit to this war, so do you have this great move and i think was about time on the 75th anniversary to do a reckoning with all this crime. amy: one of the summit's crucial goals is to offer ukraine and irreversible path to nato membership. of course, ukraine president zelenskyy is in the united states right now. how sustainable is nato's continued military support for ukraine? do you see it getting in the way

of any kind of negotiation that would end the war? >> first of all, we have to say the nato head of state and government are going to deepen their strategy in the proxy war in ukraine. that means even more weapons and even more money for ukraine. and on the others, less money for their own population for health care, education, for infrastructure, or affordable social housing. because this is the other side of the coin that they have social cuts on the others to finance the money going to ukraine and to weapons. i found it very remarkable the last days, even though i do not agree on many things of the hungarian head of state mr. viktor orbán, but i found it very remarkable how much he is

being criticized for just trying to have a dialogue. and i think it is the right way to go what he is doing with his trips tokyiv and then moscow and beijing and now in washington. he is trying to have a dialogue because whoever wants to stop the killing in ukraine, he has to send diplomats, not weapons. amy: let me ask you about germany where you are from. you are member of parliament there. the u.s. is the largest arms supplier to israel. germany is the second largest arms supplier. this is the 75th anniversary of nato. what are the implications of nato's support for israel right now? >> the implications are that the nato lost -- even if they had at least a tiny little bit of moral integrity, they lost every moral integrity at least in the global

south with their unconditional support in part very extreme right wing government of benjamin netanyahu. even in europe, for example, we do have support for recognition of palestinian state like ireland, spain, and norway because they want to stop -- amy: in sweden has already done it. >> yeah, and they what to stop this unconditional support. you have rising contradictions in crisis within the european union and the nato states according to this unconditional support. in germany, it is rising because as you said, where the second-biggest supplier of weapons. we have been lawsuited before the international court of justice in the hague. nicaragua did in indictment against --

amy: five seconds. >> and i think the most important thing is that germany has to go our own independent foreign policy. amy: we have to leave it there. sevim dagdelen