>> today, prove even aching has to do things he does not want to do. for the first time since becoming monarch, king charles iii delivered a speech to parliament, outlining the priorities of the prime minister, including a plan to expand oil and gas drilling. charles famously is a lifelong supporter of environmental causes. today's speech required his best poker face, though he learned from the best. his mother queen elizabeth was known for that. that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports every weekday, 1 to 3 pm eastern, right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with katie tur reports right now. >> good to be with you.

there was a scary moment on capitol hill at this afternoon when cops were called to a nearby park. witnesses said there was a man in an orange jumpsuit carrying a rifle. joining us now from washington 's capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. brian, what do we know happened? >> there is no doubt that it was a scary few moments here on capitol hill as capitol police officers from across the campus rushed to this scene where this man was discovered carrying what they described as a long gone. it was noted by a passerby who have been to inform capitol police. this is an area very close to the capital campus. it is a park which is situated in between union station, which is one of the main transportation hubs in washington, d.c., and the senate office buildings on the capital campus, so very close to the operations up here on capitol hill. when this man with the gun was discovered and capitol police were informed of it. they swarmed the area to subdue the man. we are told that they were

forced to use a taser to try to control the situation. that is when they discovered that gun. they were able to apprehend him really quickly and were able to quickly figure out that there was a no -- that led to a more extensive investigation. they closed down the park that he was in, looked through all of that area there, and then also went through the belongings of this individual, trying to figure out what motivation he might have to have a gun that close to capitol hill. all of those things considered, it turned out to not be that big of a threat to the rest of the people that work up here on capitol hill. nonetheless, a very scary moment to have someone that close to so much activity up here with a rifle which could have done quite a bit of damage. >> long gun rifle right near capitol hill. it definitely perks your ears up and makes you concerned. ryan nobles, are you going to be back with us a little bit later? there's a lot more news out of capitol hill. we're going to move on to

political and news outside of washington. you might have noticed a bunch of people walking around wearing i voted stickers. that is because today's election day. i did vote. it's on my jacket in the office. although there are no congressional or presidential candidates on the ballot, there are some major issues and governors races that could help us predict what will happen a year from now in 2024. in kentucky, popular democratic governor andy beshear is up against a rising gop star. in mississippi, and unpopular republican governor, tate reeves, is getting a real challenge from a democrat with a famous last name. in ohio, voters are deciding whether they want to enshrine abortion rights into their state constitution. in virginia, abortion could be the difference maker in governor glenn youngkin's push for a clean sweep of the state legislature for republicans. what are voters telling us? does it jive with yesterday's

polling that showed 2024 could be a bad year for democrats and joe biden? joining us now, senior political editor marc murray, nbc's correspondent columbus, and nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster who is in louisville, kentucky for us. priscilla, i want to start with you. tell me what you are hearing about abortion in ohio. >> yeah, every voter that has agreed to speak with me today has said that they will be voting yes on both the abortion amendment and the marijuana amendment. that abortion amendment is going to a shrine the right to an abortion in the state constitution with a note that the state legislature can limit abortion access after the point of fetal viability, so about 24 weeks. there is the amendment that would allow for tional use of marijuana. everyone i saking to, saying that they are voting yes. that's inne with the polling that they saw last month from ohio voters showing 57% in support of both of the measures. i talked to one woman about why she was voting in that way.

i want to play what she had to say about it. >> i hope the people who are empowered in our state right now understand that the majority of ohioans are absolutely in favor of our right to not only choose abortion but to consider what this referendum might mean to our entire reproductive a life, thinking about assisted reproduction, being able to have an abortion if there is something that your health is basically in crisis. >> of course, this election comes after a big push on both sides of the issue with ad spending and grassroots organizations folks out to the polls to vote on this issue. the folks who are against abortion, they still need 33% of voters in areas elect this one that are predominantly blue in order to potentially get a no on that issue. it does not appear that that is going to happen and it could really set the tone going into

2024 where we know that at least seven states are going to have similar ballot measures that they are going to be deciding on as well. >> talk to me about what you are seeing in kentucky with the governor's race there. >> well, katie, you have andy beshear in a fight with daniel cameron, the attorney general of the state. you mention that he is a rising star in kentucky republican politics. he's a close ally of mitch mcconnell. you may remember him from a national level because he led the initial investigation into breonna taylor's death back in 2020. he's facing this popular democratic governor in a state that former president trump won by 26 percentage points just a few years ago. that shows you some of the dynamics at play here. the sheer, throughout this campaign, he has been leaning on his popularity, talking about his covid response, his response to investments that he has been able to bring into the state. cameron has been leaning on his support from former president trump and also leaning into a lot of those cultural issues.

i want you to listen to how that has been playing out with some of the voters who i have been talking to. >> i want our community to not continue to be divided by policies that should be left between individuals and their doctor. >> i'm supporting daniel cameron this time. >> who did you support in 2019? >> this year. >> you went from beshear to cameron. why? >> i thought beshear, he's done a good job and i felt there were some things that he handled very well during covid and different things like that. there are also things i did not agree with that he did. i like cameron. >> what are those things that we are not providing? >> my number one is pro-life. i am going to vote pro-life. two >> governor beshear won in 2019 with just 5000 votes.

people are watching kentucky closely. in addition to it being an interesting race, since the turn of the century, the winner of kentucky's governor's mansion, the party which has taken control of kentucky's governor's mansion. has gone on to win the white house the following year. it could forecast what could happen in 2024. >> very interesting. mark marie, those two other races that i mentioned, one of them is in virginia. this is about the state house in virginia. the governor glenn youngkin wants to -- he is hoping for the entire legislature to be republican. there is also the governor's race out of mississippi. can you explain both of those for us? >> yeah. in virginia, you end up having the entire legislature up for grabs both at the state house and state senate. glenn youngkin is trying to actually have a trifecta or republicans control both chambers as well as the governor's mansion. they are pushing a 15-week abortion ban in the state of

virginia. we've actually seen that democrats have messaged against that and abortion, just like priscilla was mentioning in ohio and even in kentucky, it has become an issue. in virginia, it's absolutely clear with glenn youngkin's ambitions for higher office potentially on the line. in mississippi, we end up having the other governors race that we are going to be following, which is tate reeves, the incumbent republican who is actually dealing with some scandal in his state, the fact that the democrat, brayden pressley, a distant cousin of elvis presley, has been competitive on the airwaves. this has been a closer than expected race. the feeling is that republicans have the advantage in the red state. we are going to be watching those returns as well as in kentucky, virginia, ohio. i'm so glad it is another election day, katy. i can't wait. >> it's a party day for you,

mark marie. we have a lot of them coming up in 2024 between the primaries and ultimately the election itself. talk to me about what you are looking for as indicators, mark, for what might happen in 2024. we talked about that polling regarding joe biden and how it didn't lo good for him. he wasn't doing well on a number of battleground stes donald trump was falling ahead. what will you be watching for tonight? >> yeah, we're going to be looking for a turnout rates. it's important to note that democrats have actually enjoyed a lot of success in special elections over the past year. it is interesting whether or not democrats continue that streak. when we start looking to 2024, we are all going to have clues tonight as to what it might mean a year from now. it's worth noting that sometimes the contest that we are following tonight has lower turnout than you would see in a presidential race. katy, what is uniting almost all of the contests that i am

following is looking to see whether the power of abortion and that issue continues to galvanize voters and continues to actually help out democrats. i think that, to me, might end up being the biggest theme from the results, whether or not that trend continues on the issue of abortion. >> mark marie, priscilla thompson, jack brewster, thank you guys very much. joining us now, former senior adviser to house speaker paul ryan and jon brainer, ben and -- he's also a political analyst. mark laid out what he is looking for on the republican side of things as a republican strategist. -- >> we are a party which needs to figure out what it is doing on abortion. you have two different approaches that we will see play out. we will see what works. obviously, in ohio, they went very far to the right on the abortion ban and now they potentially are paying the price. in virginia, you have glenn youngkin, who has decided what has been happening for

republicans is not working. we have to do something else. he has taken a risk taken this head on, running on what he is framing as a compromise position. he's not outright banning. he's not doing six weeks. he's framing it as something of a middle ground, whether that actually is viewed as a middle ground by voters is going to be really telling. i think what is different here is he is not just sticking his head in the sand like most republicans have been doing. we have been going far to the right on the issue and then trying to hide from it. glenn youngkin has decided we're not going to do that. it's a big bet for virginia and for what people think about him. >> when you saw the polling yesterday which showed joe biden losing support on a number of different issues on the economy, national security, the israel, war and come in really close to donald trump's nueven on things like democracy, do you take these numbers at face value a year out? >> i put more stock in them that a lot of people potentially are for one reason.

f pethis far out in the electio, you can say, well, we are going to define our opponent. once we are able to do that, things will look different. you have a situation here where everyone knows who donald trump is. everyone knows what donald trump is about. they are still saying that they will vote for him over joe biden. that is a big warning sign. add that to the fact that polls have been showing joe biden pretty weak for a long time. if you're looking for anything positive for democrats in the elections today, though, going into the midterms, they were all kinds of warning signs for joe biden as well. you could count me among the people who didn't see abortion as being such a driver of votes as it was. there is another situation where people don't necessarily love joe biden. they're not very happy with the way things are going. maybe issues like abortion, maybe donald trump being on the ballot himself can drive out enough people to turn things around. the democrats had a pretty good night in the midterms but, over performing than what you would expect. i didn't think it had a lot to do with them liking joe biden.

there were other issues. >> that's a really important point. the biden team won't say they didn't necessarily like joe biden but they will say the polling has not necessarily been correct in 2020. it wasn't correct in 2022. it's risky to bank on the same thing and being true in 2024, risky indeed. brendan buck, good to have you on as always. coming up, should people accused of domestic violence have a right to own a gun? the supreme court's hearing oral arguments on this right now. we will tell you which way the justices appeared to be leaning. plus, benjamin netanyahu says israel will have, quote, overall security responsibility of gaza indefinitely. i will ask a member of the prime ministers wore cabinet what this will look like. he is known as bbc brain. we are back in 60 seconds. bbc brain we are back in 60 seconds. we are back in 60 seconds.

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abuse or have a gun? a supreme court order heard oral arguments in a case by brought by a man saying that he should be able to own a gun as long as he's not convicted of domestic abuse. this court has expanded gun rights in the past. will they do the same here, or will the justices put limits on the previous ruling? joining us now, msnbc news senior legal correspondent and co-anchor of saturday today laura jarrett. so this is a really interesting case, because this man is saying, i've just been accused. i've not been convicted, and until i am convicted, i am afforded to process, and my constitutional rights should not be infringed upon. how is that argument playing at the supreme court right now? >> the justices don't seem to be, it which is interesting, because this is a court at least for the past couple of years that i've been trying to expand gun rights and knock down different lost they thought went too far, and they seem to recognize their own

ruling back last year in 2022 may have gone a step too far. remember, that is the case, and it has to do with newark's gun law, and they set up a new framework which had never been done before which says, let's look at history, text, and tradition and looks back at the founding and see if it's there. is it the fact of regulation that the founders would've said that is okay with and it's good. if not, no dice. the problem of course in this case is that women could not even vote, let alone the order of protection for domestic violence. and so we are certainly left out in the cold when it comes to this. it's certainly something that justice kagan was pressing the lawyers hard on today. i'm sure that you have some of that if you want to play it. >> let's play that, let's play that. >> i'm just going to read you a sentence from the brief and i want to know whether, you know, that is your essential argument. it says, the government has yet to find even a single americ jurisdiction that adopted a similar ban while the founding generation walked the earth. so is that what we should be looking for? d we don't find it that

similar ban, we say that the government has no right to do anything? >> your honor, i think that's largely what bruin says. >> bruin is of course that case, and that's why i think that they are uncomfortable. i think that they are uncomfortable of giving the idea of giving license to people that the state has deemed dangerous. >> that's justice kagan. are the others uncomfortable as well? the more conservative parts of the courts? >> i think justin roberts had some questions. he's always looking for limiting principle, trying to figure out if there is a way where they can go incrementally here. i think they're going to have to do something to provide some guidance to the lower courts, because the lower federal courts are the ones interpreting that bruen case from last year all over the map. i don't know what to do with this. it could impact hunter biden's case as well, because the entire sort of statutory framework that they are looking at has a lot of probations. it's not just people with domestic violence orders, it's people who are using drugs. and that is why hunter biden was not allowed to possess a gun. >> so the oral arguments we

will likely hear in the ruling in the next spring or june? okay. and also, probably next june, the -- case, do you think? >> it could easily. this is the one where the government is hoping that the supreme court will say, look, the pill should be obsessed and mark it. right now it is currently undisturbed. it's on the market because of what the supreme court did in putting a hole on the lower court hearing. they want them to intervene, but they are not set a date for oral argument. yet they're still trading papers, and the court is still deciding when to take it out. >> listen, if they do take it, up and then make a decision on it, that is not a popular decision. it will be june of 2024, which is just a few months away from the november elections and could be quite an activating decision for a large swath of the electorate. laura jarrett, thank you for coming. and good to see you. coming up next, i will be joined by top israeli minister advising prime minister benjamin netanyahu. what is being done to free the more than 200 hostages still being held a month after hamas's attack on israel.

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i don't have anything. i need your help. >> today's weekly republican a press conference, house leadership invited families of some of the hostages being held by hamas to speak to reporters. today marks one month since the massacre that killed at least 1400 men, women, and children in israel. 139 others are still being held hostage. it has also been a month of bombardment in gaza where the gaza health ministry says that more than 10,000 have died. in an interview last night, prime minister benjamin netanyahu said once the war is over israel will have, quote, overall security responsibility for gaza for a, quote, indefinite period. here is nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel from jerusalem. >> the israeli military says its troops will comb through every inch of gaza. they have surrounded gaza city. israel's prime minister netanyahu says israel may

occupy gaza for a period until a replacement for hamas can be found. he spoke to abc news. >> i think israel will for an indefinite period have the overall security response. we have seen what happens when we don't have it. >> president biden has said an occupation would be a mistake, taking over gaza, defeating hamas, and finding local palestinians to work with could take years. as u.s. troops learned in iraq, it could easily fail and devolve into a long and bloody insurgency. gaza could be far more violent than iraq. most iraqis never believed troops were coming to drive them from their homes for good. many palestinians believe that was their goal. israel has told palestinians to

go for safety. they managed to pull out two girls, cutting and digging through debris for hours. both of them are named amal. one girl is also trapped in gaza. she is three years old and was kidnapped with her family by hamas on october 7th from kibbutz be'eri. i met her uncle. >> or all of these people from your family? >> this is my family. >> this is my family. we're talking about a little girl who is never away from her mother. i don't even know if this is hurt now. we don't even know if they have food, we don't know if they have water. we don't know if they are together. i cannot think about what is happening in gaza, because it breaks my heart. >> that was richard engel reporting from us. during us now is israel's minister of, excuse me, israel's minister of strategic affairs, he is one of the --

benjamin netanyahu's war cabinet and former israeli ambassador to the u.s.. thank you so much. >> thank you katie, i'm sorry for the mumbling at the top. >> my pleasure. >> let me ask you about prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and this indefinite security force that will be within gaza. what does that mean? >> he didn't say the definite security forces he didn't say he was going to occupy israel for a peter of time. he would say that israel have overriding security responsibility, and i think that's clear. the administration of gaza as something else. that will have to be done by the palestinians. who those palestinians will be, what the governance will be, we don't know. we know who it is not going to be. it's not going to be hamas. over a security response to be means that as we israel goes into gaza, and as we destroy hamas terrorist infrastructure, what happens afterwards, what happened six months later, a year and a half later, if there is another force in gaza that is trying to rebuild that infrastructure, that's what he was talking about.

and so i don't think that people understood, and i gotta have the opportunity to clarify it. he's not talking about gaza, but maintaining overriding security responses. >> clarify it for me a little bit more. does that mean -- and how do you maintain security over gaza without actually being in gaza? n gaza >> that's a good question. there are two different things. there's an issue of the policing power. what is the security forces there that is dealing with the normal security challenges that you face, and then there is the anti-terror fighting capabilities that you have. what if you have intelligence that says there's some kind of lab and they are building rockets. who is going to go and deal with? that you would always love to have a local partner who's going to do it. but what has happened unfortunately, not just in gaza, but also in the west bank, is that we have had to go into a lot of these areas. you remember 20 years ago israel had an operation called operation defensive shield and we actually rooted a lot of the tear infrastructure out and reduce terrorism pretty dramatically for many many years.

unfortunately, we have had recently over the last several years and attempt to rebuild that infrastructure. so from time to time, is we have to go in to these areas, whether it's jenin or nablus or elsewhere. now we don't put our soldiers there. we don't want them to be in those cities and towns, but in gaza for the last 17 years, israeli soldiers have not been there. we withdrew entirely from gaza. we uprooted all the settlements that were in gaza. we went back to what internationally is the 1967 line. it's what we got is a terror state. so obviously we cannot repeat it. so after hamas is removed from power, after we dismantle this infrastructure, israel is going to have to retain overriding security responsibility indefinitely. will there be a force? there will prevent terrorism from emerging there? will there be a palestinian force that will build and govern gaza the way it should, for the people of gaza, and not just to destroy israel? that remains to be seen. >> it sounds like semantics when you're talking about occupying there. it sounds a lot like what you guys have going -- on >> not at all.

no. it's actually not. it's not semantics at all. you had for many many years israel's soldiers were in gaza and they were in control. before the oslo accords, which gave both gaza and palestinian cities to the palestinian authority, israel actually govern there. israel was in control. since oslo, we were not, and then when they were drawn from how -- gaza happened, we totally cut ties from there. now we have a problem. we have a terror organization that is horrific attack. i think everybody understands, and i think there is unity in this goal, and we shared with the united states to eliminate hamas. now once we eliminate hamas, the question becomes the day after, okay, who's going to govern in gaza? if you can tell me that there is going to be a palestinian force that is going to be committed to rooting out terrorism in gaza, then you can have a conversation about what israel's role is going to be. >> if there was a palestinian force, if they were able to elect a government that israel did not see as a threat, is that a two state solution? is israel open to a two state solution down the line? >> now you're talking about

something else, the two states, and what with the sovereign powers of that state be long term? it is a different conversation. the question is, you have a period of time, you have the palestinians governing themselves. what are they going to do in terms of fighting terrorism and preventing tear infrastructure from emerging? there we have like 500 -- >> if we are talking about what comes in the future, because if you are going to try to go back today before october 7th, i don't think is anybody out there saying hey, okay, that's a good idea, that worked. because what was happening in gaza it was not good. people are feeling angry and frustrated, and the terror group was born out of that. how do you stop that from happening again. you're talking about an indefinite security structure of some sort. how does that not breeders that meant and anger among the palestinian people who have been hoping for generations for their own sovereign state? >> listen, there are so much that i have to unpack and what you just said about frustration and frustration leading to terror and everything. i want to get into it. what i will tell you is that

the problem that we have with hamas has nothing to do with frustration, it has nothing to do with occupation of anything. israel is not in gaza. hamas is a terror organization that is why did to the destruction of israel. it is like i.s.i.s.. in fact, it was a president himself, president biden said it is worse than i.s.i.s.. their charter is to murder jews worldwide. it is a genocidal terror organization. they're asking me after we take out this genocidal terror organization, now you're telling israelis, let's talk about a palestinian state tomorrow. let me explain to you what israelis understand when you're telling them about a palestinian state tomorrow. you're telling them that you're going to create a terror state that is going to repeat what happened on october 7th. and you have leaders -- [inaudible] >> it is an important point, i will answer your question. >> go ahead. >> it is an important point, because everyone has been talking about this for the last 30 days, and it is important to understand something. it is not just that hamas was a terror organization that did what they did. they educated an entire

generation of palestinians to hate israel into hate jews. now unfortunately what is happening in the palestinian authority, which controls the west bank, if you look at their textbooks, if you look at their media, if you look at what they are teaching their children, it is no different than what hamas is teaching their children. that is why the leader of the palestinian authority still to this day cannot bring himself to condemn the attack on october 7th. so you're telling israelis, well let's have the p.a. just go into gaza, the palestinian authority. which p.a.? the p.a. that is raising its children also to target israel? i think that the hope for the whole region, and this is real hope, is for israel to win this war and to illuminate hamas and to get a reformed palestinian governance body that is actually focus on the welfare of the palestinian people so that we don't have to go through these rounds and rounds so the palestinians don't have to suffer to commit themselves to peace with israel, to educate the next generation of children with peace for israel, and then you try to work at a

political settlement. that is how we have to approach this issue. in the meantime, israel will have to -- >> it sounds like what you are saying to me though, ron, is that you don't trust the palestinian people, and this war is in part because you have to read out hamas, but in part because you don't trust the palestinian people to figure out something for themselves, and that what is going to happen in the future is that it's going to be the same situation. gaza is not occupied, in quotes, but you can't get in or out without going through security. they're not going to be a sovereign state. so what hope is that giving the palestinian people for a future for themselves, and if you are talking about breaking the cycle of violence that generations of israelis and palestinians have experienced, and this fear that exists among israel about what is happening next door, how do you do that? how do you break that cycle of violence and despair without giving the people that you live side by side with some hope for their own future? by side w>> yeah, again, terros

not driven by despair, but it's another issue. it's not a cycle of violence. we have for the history of -- >> how could you not call it a cycle of violence? >> because it's not! because you have one party, the palestinians for 75 years, that never accepted the legitimacy of the jewish state and any boundary, and they have been committed to our destruction. their goal has not been to establish a palestinian state, unfortunately, it has been to destroy a jewish state. we can sweep that under the rug and pretend that that is not the case, and then wait another 20 or 30 years and be in the same situation. but let me explain to you what happened. hamas was elected about 44% of the palestinians voted for hamas. that is a problem. for them to vote for a terror organization -- >> that was 17 years ago, and -- it was a little different. >> wait a second. everything is different. it is also true that the german people elected the not seized about 44%. germany in 1933 was not the germany of 1953, or 1973. it is a different germany

today. what we need to do is have a real peace process, a real change of the palestinians and acceptance of israel, and an educational system which educates for peace, and then you can have a political leadership that can actually leave their people -- >> ron, it sounds like what america tried to do in afghanistan, and look at how well that went. >> no, i don't think it has to do with america and afghanistan, but here's the difference. afghanistan for you is thousands of miles away. this is next door. we cannot just roll the dice with the future of israel. this is not a problem thousands of miles away. it is literally 200 yards away. so we have to have this change. and what happened, it's very important, and i think germany is a much better example, and japan. you had a military victory and in the wake of a military victory, and you had to really fanatical societies. now it's all germans? no. with all japanese? no. but it was a complete and utter military victory, and that led to a change.

in the nine states was in germany for several years, there in japan for several years, and today germany and japan are two of your strongest allies. that is the change that we have to have with the palestinians. not sweep this little problem under the rug about the radicalization there, but to actually deal with the root of the problem and give the palestinians a better future. >> and that is the argument that the americans made about what they were trying to do in afghanistan, but again, that's right, that is thousands of miles away from the night states. ron dermer, they do so much for joining us, i really appreciate it. you hold an inside position and the war cabinet there, and we really appreciate you coming on and explaining to us the israeli perspective on this and what you think is possible and not possible. >> well we are going to hope for the best and work for the best. >> there you go, ron, thank you. coming up next, what house speaker's mike johnson is for avoiding a government shutdown in ten days. ten days. e is marie. i'm 49 years old and i'm a business owner. i own a lemonade and ice cream shop in florida, so i can feel and see that my lines have gotten deeper

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across the county. there are ten that are understaffed this year. far fewer poll workers than election workers, these brand-new election workers would like to do. but then again, it is a big sort of step from seven months ago. the last time i was in buckingham county when you couldn't register, you could not get on the ballot. none of this could have happened. and so they have come a long way, but election denialism is top of mind and a lot of the conversations that i've had with both candidates as well as just voters coming in to cast their ballot as they do every year. perhaps no one more so than paul garrett. he is one of those election workers who quit earlier this year. he is running for office. county office, board of supervisors. because of everything that have happened. let's play a little bit of my conversation with him earlier. >> i want to see this election goes smoothly, but just like in here, they usually run with seven or eight workers during an election. they have only got five, to my understanding, that is what i heard yesterday.

i've not been in there to see, but i know that the number of election workers are down. >> now like most of america, we are eagerly awaiting for election results once the polls close. but the bigger question here in buckingham is whether or not people are going to accept the results or again, challenge them. >> denialism is dangerous. jane timm, jane, then you very much. that is going to do it for me today. deadline: white house starts right now. >> other everyone, it is 4:00 in new york. an unprecedented campaign of deceit. that is how special counsel jack smith sums up the plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election, by one man and one man only, the ex president himself. in a flurry of filings on monday, the special counsel pushing back against team trump's efforts to derahe