>> it is a picnic tonight, just moments ago, nbc news projected that the democrat andy beshear won the kentucky governor's race. again, we'll have more on that,

and we'll have even more projections as soon as we get them in. i tell you them, give you all the information. polls just closed in states across the country, states including ohio and virginia and, yes, kentucky. and there are a number of candidates and issues that are on the path. tonight, all eyes are on the issue of abortion. last, year after roe v. wade was overturned, republicans across the country felt the black clash of a ballot box, especially in states where abortion was literally on the ballot. and now, tonight, republicans in multiple states are trying to flip the script, make their anti abortion policies see moderate, while pink think pro-choice democrats as the real extremist. look at what is happening in ohio, where a vote to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution is literally issue one on the ballot tonight. this is how the right is framing that choice. >> late term abortion is real,

and so is the pain. one allows that right up to birth, abortions that are too late, too painful and too extreme for ohio. will you stand for victims? please vote no on late term abortion, no an issue when. >> for more on issue one and what is happening in the state of ohio, the great steve kornacki is at the big board, msnbc's national correspondent. steve, what can you tell us my >> off the presses of decision desk, they just made a quality -- we just project that, yes, it will pass, she won, putting the right to abortion and the state constitution in ohio with the provision that restrictions can be applied at the point of viability at the 22, 24 week. as you can see, we get more than a third of the vote here in ohio. yes, it's leading by 17 points right now. just showing folks on christmas show a few minutes ago, what is happening now, count are reporting, getting close to hitting 100% at the, and what

we are seeing is that there was a test for the summer, where opponents of this put language and about that said they would raise the threshold to 60% for a constitutional amendment, as an attempt to defeat this. that went down to defeat this summer, and we are seeing in every county, that they're completing, we're seeing results that are basically a mirror image of the summer. the folks who are against raising the threshold are voting for this tonight in basically equal numbers. this summer, that proposal to raise the threshold loss 50 7:43. this thing is, right now, on track to land early in the territory. that is the nbc news projection that this is going to carry, and you can see based on the completed counties that we have

had so far, it could be by a pretty healthy margin. >> steve, there is a lot of, shall i say, misdirection from the part of republicans in the state who changed some at the language and the amendment, the language that will be enshrined in the state constitution is not what voters actually voted on tonight. i believe they on different languages to refer to defeat this is of unborn child. there was this back and forth about the early ballot issue in caucus. the bow issue one now in november. can you talk a little bit about what we know about how any of the plate? do we have any information about parts of the state to have come and stronger than expected? >> i think the story is the consistency between the vote to summer and the vote tonight, and it really feels like the folks this summer, who had decided that they wanted to vote for this, voted down the initiative this summer to raise the threshold, and the numbers at the same. that is what i am struck by, the same disciple of this. take washington county right here, we've got almost all the vote in washington county, one of the counties where issue one will fail, but supporters of shulan are sitting at 40 and a half percent in this county,

just about all of the vote in. this summer, supporters of she won, presumably voted no this summer, because they did not want to raise the threshold. no in the same county summer got 42. it really does not look like we are not seeing shifts of more than a point or two in these completed counties. it really does feel like, the turnout is higher, it looks like, but it feels like, in many ways, it's a re-run of the summer, and folks on both sides had the same sense then as they do know about what they are voting on. they had their minds made up in both cases. >> just to be clear for everybody at home here, ohio is effectively a red state. this is one of the first times that voters in a red state have been asked to vote affirmatively for reproductive choice, that is correct, right, steve? >> that is a key point going forward. and this is also seen as a model for other red states and swing states in 2024, folks who tried to get this on the ballot

in south carolina, for instance, florida, arizona. the difference here, there have been other states that have put abortion rights constitutional amendments in, but blue states like california, new york, vermont, maryland, california, vermont, the two that have done, and maryland are trying, they simply in california around, say that is in the state constitution, the right to an abortion, and they felt no pressure or need to not to any kind of restriction on the. folks here in ohio did feel that pressure, and that is why they assess inserted that language that says restrictions can be placed basically at the 22nd, 24th week, the point of fetal viability, and that is the additional language that you will see exported to those red states, to the swing states,

when folks try to do the ballot next year. again, in a place like south carolina, a place like arizona, a place like florida, i think you'll see language allowing for restrictions at the point of fetal viability. there is a test tonight in a red state like ohio, giving that type of provision for a prescription along with the constitutionally mandated right to an abortion. if that counts -- would be politically successful, it clearly is in ohio, and i think that that creates the roadmap for other states, for supporters at this next year. >> we are going to see a lot of playbook development this evening. i want to get into the specifics here on issue one. it was being positioned on the right as a vote of late term abortion. to be clear, if one does not allow abortions to birth on it when. what it does do is a law for abortions around the 23rd week of pregnancy, and then after that, it allows for the health of the mother to be taken into account. if you want answers that if a doctor believes in an abortion, it's necessary to safety life or health at the mother, even though in the pregnancy, then the doctor could legally perform an abortion. now, there is a lot of discussion tonight about what might happen if issue one felt, because the republican majority in the ohio supreme court could have temporarily reinstated a temporary six-week abortion

band has no exceptions for rape or incest. we don't think that will supersede what has happened tonight. we have a lot to discuss about what this means for voters in ohio and what it means as an active issue for democrats and republicans in 2024. i want to bring in now, representative chantal brown from ohio, who can talk to us a little bit more about what is going on interstate and what it portends with the rest of the country. >> representative brown, thank you for joining tonight. let me first get your reaction to what has gone down in your state. it looks like voters are voting yes on enshrining the right of reproductive choice in the state's constitution. >> yes, thank you for having me.

i would be remiss if i did not think the voters and volunteers who worked at tirelessly to make sure people understood what issue one was about, the importance of voting yes on issue one. as he stated, this is the extreme abortion ban to had no exceptions for rape or incest. it also gives doctors the freedom to get emergency care for miscarriages and access to contraceptives like birth control pills. i could not be more proud and excited about the results that have come in, and i want to thank you candy voters and volunteers who have worked to make it possible. >> i do want to ask you about the attempts by republicans commissioner that this thought pass. the cannery between ballot issue one and august, where supporters of abortion rights were encouraged to vote no, and then there was a another ballot issue, or supporters of

reproductive freedom were encouraged to vote yes. there was the poaching of i believe 26,000 voters in late september from the voter registration rules, which is tightly up against the voter registration that nine. some folks were worried about whether it would discourage people from going to the polls, or prevent them from going to the polls. there was even which on the ballot itself, which framed this as a choice around late term abortion, and referred to the fetus as an unborn child. those efforts did not seem to have deterred the voters of ohio for making this a constitutional right for the state, but did you make at them, as they were unfolding? >> i think people heard the message loud and clear, messaging still matters, issues are important, and they made their voices known that the powers the belongs to the people. what we were telling people as it relates to issue one is that it would allow them to make their own health care decisions without the interference of government or fear of being criminalized. that is the bottom line, and that abortion care is health care. as you can see, just like in august, when there was a lot of confusion, this was -- i deemed it as the undercurrent our first step in a two-step dance, but the night was the

main event. people were prepared. we started sending the message out in august that he will start voting no in august and in november. people were paying attention. i could not be more proud of the voters. despite republican effort to try to continue to take away our freedoms, suppress, suffocate and ni our voices at the ballot box, the people continue to show up and show out an ohio. i couldn't be more proud again, because so often, so goes ohio, so goes the nation. what we know in cleveland, which is a part of the district i represent, nothing is given, everything is earned. we knew going into the race that it would be a difficult fight, but we worked incredibly hard -- and we were able to deliver incredible results tonight.

>> what is your message to national democrats, who may be feeling a bit on their heels with the recent polling? they came out and in your times earlier this week about president biden's chances in 2024, and his numbers vis-à-vis head to head matchup with donald trump in 2024. what advice do you give too worried democrats at this hour? >> there is a not their sayings in politics, there is only two ways to run, on a post or scared. those numbers are very frightening. listen, again, this is not going to be an easy fight. we are ready to roll up our sleeves and work hard, but i would remind voters that polling is just a snapshot in time. the polls don't vote. as we know, when it comes to putting specifically with president joe biden, they have never proven to be favorable to him, but he has always shown when people count them out, they don't know how to count. >> democratic congresswoman chantal brown, thank you for asking the time. congratulations on the within a. >> thanks. >> i mentioned before that we got to the ohio results, that republicans in the state were trying to paint democrats as the radical ones on the issue of abortion. we are seeing a similar strategy play out tonight in the state of virginia. joining me now is congresswoman jennifer mcclellan from virginia. she is a democrat.

congresswoman, thank you for being here. for people to have not been following what is going on in your state, governor youngkin is trying to paint republicans as the moderates, sensible one for embracing a 15-week abortion ban, and democrats, as the extremists who abortion on demand until the end of pregnancy. looking at what happened in ohio, how do you think that the governor's efforts are going to fare this evening? >> i don't think that they will fare well. first of, all the voters of virginia want our abortion laws to remain as they are now or be even less restricted. over three fourths of virginia voters, that is what they want. they understand that the decision about when and whether to have an abortion is between pregnant people and the providers. not glenn youngkin, not politicians enrichment or any other capital. they're coming out accordingly. we have seen high turnout in these off, off year elections. that's because people know that

their rights are on the ballot, their rights are on the line, and we have worked really hard to make virginia a safe haven for abortion access. it's the only state in the south without a ban, and virginians are coming out today to show that is how we will keep it, and they are not buying what glenn youngkin is setting. >> a talk a little bit more about whether virginia's the last bastion of hope for people needing reproductive choice and the, south and the degree to which that resonate for folks inside virginia, they sent agree, who are more insulated for folks that are in the deep south, concern for the regional citizens who did not have the same freedoms that they do. >> absolutely, back in 2020, i worked to carry a bill that got rid of medical unnecessary restrictions to abortion that were legal under roe. virginians wanted to. when roe fell, they understood that all of the parkas could be undone, and they did not want to be undone, and they were angry. i heard all over virginia, and i traveled all over virginia this year and campaigning for over 50 candidates and 82 events, and people were upset

that they were the first generation at their family to lose the constitutional right. and that in virginia, knowing the governor youngkin, with the trifecta, would ban abortion and nowhere between new mexico and the atlantic ocean, would you be able to get an abortion if you and your provider felt that that was the right thing to do in your case. and virginia voters do not want to. >> jennifer, in terms of governor youngkin, he has been seen at the vanguard of some of the republican policies that have become sort of national strategies. he was one of the first people to seize on the idea of crt to try to weaponize it for social division and political gain. he is a leader in row testing this notion that republicans are for a moderate abortion limit. they are not calling the 15 -week ban a ban. they're calling it a limit,

trying to suggest, as i said before, to that democrats are the shin once. they are not even limiting choice saying, reasonable people favor the myths. can i ask you, given his success on crt, is their expectation that no matter what happens in virginia tonight, youngkin's laboratory testing on abortion could be something that we see replicated by republicans across the country, who understand that their party is not with the american public on a very important issue that drives voters to the polls? >> look, i would say that, first of all, when governor youngkin became governor and started to govern, virginians pushed back on his extreme agenda, even related to the curriculum in our schools. when he tried to rewrite social studies standards, virginians came out in droves to say that we want a full, complete accurate history tasha our classes, including how racism of the past impacts our policies and communities today. they made that loud and clear. they made that lot and clear in

the polls. that is partly why they're coming out to vote today. they don't want the 60 maga agenda, even if it is wrapped up in a smile and red face. >> virginia congresswoman jennifer mcclellan, take a pretend to, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, we will continue to bring you all of these life election results as they come in, plus, what it means for the expected 2024 matchup between joe biden and donald trump. there is a whole lot on top this evening, stay with us. ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle.

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relatively early in the night, the democrats actually made it two for two and governors races in red states. that brings us to mississippi, and what is going on down there. the mississippi governor tate reeves, elected relatively narrowly by five point margin between 2019, seeking a second term against democrat brendan pressley. let's take a look at what is going on in the mississippi, not all the votes have been counting. most of them have. , it is 6% are in run out, reeves, 52, presley, 46.6. the screen says too early to call, but i can tell you --

oh, timing is everything, isn't it? it no longer says too early to call. nbc news has formally declared tate reeves the republican incumbent governor reelected in mississippi to a second term. the timing on this is interesting because brandin pressley, the democrat, had actually conceded this race about an hour ago, but we wanted to make sure if mississippi is a little unique, it's a runoff state, so it was clear for a long time here that reeves was going to finish ahead of presley tonight, but it's a runoff state, 50% rule. he has to get 50% plus one to win tonight, if he had fallen under that number, with an independent candidate who had dropped out of the race, but still out and about getting a point in the half, it was possible for reeves to fall under 50, still lead pressley, to get forced into a runoff. that is what the delay on the call was all about, but now, enough isn't from enough counties ear that reeves can

formally be declared by our decision desk a winner of a second term. in terms of the margin here, this is breaking down pretty similar to how it did in 2019, a five-point win for reeves in 2019, 5.4 points right now. there are still some votes to come in and be counted by just what happened, what's just triggered that call for the decision desk is that we got a big batch of votes in moments ago from the biggest county in the state, hinds county, overwhelmingly democratic, as you can see. pressley winning it by 59 points. it counts for almost 10% of all the votes that are cast statewide. now, we got 80% of the vote right there, and i think what is key right here, the polling places were kept open pass the state scheduled closing time in hinds county because of issues with ballot availability today there. so the democrats had been hoping, as the rest of the

state fulton, and reeves lead statewide that they would get a big kick out of hinds county that would elevate pressley there, ideally for them to delete or at least bring down it reads enough to force that runoff, but as more and more votes have come in, up to 80% in has county, you can see again, a 59% margin purposely. he won -- democrats won this county and the 2019 governors race by 56 points. again, when you think about it, democrats in 2019 lost the wide by five. that means that they need basically on average to be improving the performance by five points and every county i thought they were to make up that difference. well, they have improved by three points in their best county. it's an example of why pressley is doing it for a democrat mississippi, but is not enough. there are some counties that we could see in the state where they actually did improve significantly and how democrats

fared in 2019, so there are moments tonight, we are looking at this, for instance, i can show you, de soto county here, suburban, memphis, fast growing area, republican, almost all the votes are in right here, and the margin is 17.4 tate reeves. tailwind somewhere around 17 points. reeves margin and the county is a big county. his margin four years ago it was 23. actually, here is a county or pressley did what democrats were hoping to do. he made a kind of gain of the democratic performance in 2019 that they were looking for. there are counties like this, i can show you throughout the state, that's why throughout the night, depending on where you are looking on the back or what was being reported at the time, it looks like there was pathways for parsley in the race. what happened was, as the night wore on, reeves was able to counter the democratic gains and two key places, one for tate reeves tonight. take a look outside of jackson,

outside the capital city, these two big counties here, madison county, fourth largest county in the state, and almost all the votes are in, and agency tate reeves is going to win this by four points. in 2019, it was kind of a momentous occasion in mississippi politics. the democrats, in the 2019 race against tate reeves one madison county. it was the first time in more than three decades that they have carried the county, so they came into the night thinking that they could win it again, and the question was, could they expand on the margin. again, this is a big county in terms of population, so if democrats had already won it and could improve on that, that would really put press the in a much better position. instead, it seems to have reverted to form here. reeves is going to carry it. that is a huge disappointment for democrats, as that became clear. again, outs side jackson, south of madison county is the second

largest county in the state, big suburban republican county, where tate reeves grew up, ranking county, not all the votes counted it, but you see it's a 34 point advantage for reeves or pressley. reeves one dusting pick in 2019. he won it by 26. again, this is one where pressley wanted to break that number down. and that, it was up by eight points. that is in a big county. again, there was some impressive gains for pressley here, but reaves is able to counter them and in the end, tate reeves has been reelected governor of mississippi. we'll be back with more election coverage right after this. ght afte this

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beshear is speaking at his victory event in louisville are now, listen. >> we get to the good times, and we get to them together. and wow, are we getting through them. [applause] kentucky is on a historic win streak, the two best years of economic development in the history at the commonwealth of kentucky. we are building the brent spence companion bridge without paul's. [applause] we are for leaning the entire mountain park way [applause] . and we are pushing i 69 forward

so fast, that indiana scrambling to catch up [applause] . we're bringing clean drinking water to our counties, and we are running high-speed internet access to every home in kentucky. [applause] we're building the two biggest battery plants on planet earth. [applause] and the cleanest, greenest recycle mill in this country. [applause] we have record high budget surpluses and record low unemployment. we have created almost 50,000 new jobs, 27. 8 billion dollars in new private sector investment, so tonight, i stand here excited, and optimistic about what we will do these next four years together. [applause] [crowd chanting] >> or more years! for more years! for more years! >> over the next four years,

it's time for a couple of things. first, it's time to get our educators the big pay raise that they deserve. [applause] it's time for universal pre-k for every kentucky child. [applause] we are going to keep attracting new jobs and industries, building our workforce, building the kentucky that we have always dreamed of. it's amazing that we're here, because we have been through a lot to get there. devastating tornadoes in the west, historic flooding in the east, and after each, i have made a promise, a promise that

i would help rebuild every home and every life. thanks to the people of kentucky, and thanks to this election, we are going to see that promise there. [applause] >> you are listening to kentucky democratic governor andy beshear, who in recent weeks was expected to have a somewhat tight battle against daniel cameron, the state a. g.. but with 87% of the vote in, they got a governor, democrat, has a healthy six point lead. i want to bring in former house secretary and presidential candidate julián castro. mister secretary, listening to

the incumbent democratic governor of kentucky, who has a healthy lead, and the race has been called for him taking a victory lap there, this is not about the right or left, it's about projecting team -- after one against someone, showing division, not so division, politics is over. granted, this is the state of kentucky that donald trump won by, i believe, 20 points. and a democrat who survived to be a two term governor here, remarkable story for these times, but how do you look at the events this evening. >> there is no other way to interpret this tonight. they say is a great night for democrats. it is also, alex, as you know, a soothing warm shot of kentucky bourbon to ease all of the anxiety that national democrats have been feeling for the last couple of days since that new york times poll came out and about their recent polling, the nervousness about the 2024 cycle. all of the caveats to apply. we're still a year away from 2024. these were state elections. there was not a single congressional representative,

senator or president biden was not on the ballot, but this does give democrats some important lessons, and governor beshear alluded to that right there. you have to be for something and go on offense. he did that on the issue of protecting the right to choose. he did that, pushing back against the cultural warriors, specifically the attack on trans kids. we saw how powerful the issue of reproductive freedom was in ohio tonight and also in virginia. it looks like democrats have at least retained the state senate, there and they will be able to block young governor youngkin from jacksonian abortion legislation. there are some lessons here, and democrats should turn them. it also means for joe biden that this is a roadmap going forward. it's good that the campaign needs to make some adjustments and needs to address a weakness, not only did pull the other day,

but many polls have shown poor democratic constituencies. this is the reset in starting off point for. that >> didn't let the biden team needs to draw more of a direct contrast with trump? we know from reporting on spending, that i believe the biden campaign and the dnc spent roughly $7 million on positive tv ads this year, along with less than $100 unconscious ads that named trump. the wisdom was that the republican primary season would do enough damage to trump that people like ron desantis or nikki haley or tim scott would go after trump effectively enough that biden would have. to that has not turned out to be the case at all. do you think that is not incumbent upon the sitting president to more specifically call out donald trump and is 91 felony counts? >> this is going to sound like a contradiction from what i said a second ago but, yes, you had to be for something and joe biden's campaign, i think has laid out all of the different great accomplishments that he has under his belt, but the best thing that joe biden has

going for him in 2024 was the best thing that i think he had going for him in 2020, how terrible donald trump is, when you put his record in front of the american people, and that record has only gotten worse with 91 criminal indictments, four different trials, maybe going on by the time we had the election in november 2020, four and he may be convicted, in which case, all bets are off. absolutely, the biden campaign needs to spend resources or focus and attention on reminding people how bad, how uniquely terrible a president donald trump was, and the thing is, right now, trump is on tv, and that works because of his testimony in the trials and so forth, but he is not on every day. he's not reminded people by being in office about how bad a president was. i think he is benefiting from that. those primary moments for him are too scared to point out his

failures and weaknesses, so it will fall upon the biden campaign to start with earlier than they wanted to, but if they don't, they risk trump getting a free ride all the way until next summer or fall, and i think that would be a mistake. >> do you think, to that end, trump's relative, and i put the word relative in italics, silence in terms of xenophobic, racist commentary and instead focus on election interference and the criminal future that awaits him in 2024 in terms of trials, do you think that is what trump has been seemingly able to make inroads with voters of color? i know that the biden campaign has looked at the latest campaign for biden support, for example, for latinos, is very worried that there may be some significant realignment here, in the way that the party's, where the parties to draw their basis for? >> yeah, i think you saw a preview of this and the 2020 election, after 2016, i think if you asked people, what was

the defining issue for trump in that campaign against hillary clinton, it was immigration, and i noticed, and, of course, he was as bad on immigration as he was before, but he shut up about it a little bit before. he was not a strident, did not put that out there in the same way as in 2020. he did better numbers, a little bit better with the latinos. what the biden campaign is to do is to remind those voters, those core constituencies what he stands for, what biden stands for and then how bad trump has been. donald trump is going to do everything he can to try to hoodwink voters, including latino voters in places like florida, and south texas and i am sure parts of arizona, nevada, to make them think that, yeah, i would be better than my reputation, but i think that enough people are going to be able to see through that, if they are reminded of the checkered of the words and actions of trump and the pass.

>> if we are learning anything for the night, it is effective campaigning, people will show up for you. it is a big night tonight, secretary castro, thank you for helping me make sense of all of this within the context of the big race that with assault in 2024. thank you for your time tonight. >> no worries. >> coming up, ohioans voted to protect abortion rights today despite republican attempts to make the process very confusing ordeal indeed. we'll discuss right after the break. stay with us.

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state to have a ballot measure concerning reproductive rights a yes vote on the citizens sponsored issue, issue one a amends the state constitution to enshrine abortion rights into law, essentially undoing a six-week ban passed by ohio republicans, a ban currently tied up in court. our decision desk is predicting that ohioans have voted yes on ballot issue one, was 55% of the vote, in 56% of people voted to amend the ohio state constitution giving individuals that in that state the right to make or carry out their own reproductive decisions. it comes after a long and confusing campaign led by republicans on the ballot itself. we weren't given the exact language to amend the state constitution to vote yes. instead it created a summary, written by frankel arose, a republican is very publicly hit antiabortion, and didn't hide those views in the wording on the ballot.

but now ohio voters have made their views their own views known, loudly and clearly. joining me now is jessica valenti, author and publisher of the abortion every day newsletter. jessica, thank you for being. here i'm sure you have a lot of thoughts and feelings about what is unfolding in the state of ohio tonight. there were so many republican attempts to misdirect voters, offer disinformation, make this a referendum on late term abortion and parental consent. did anything surprise you in particular tonight? >> you know, i didn't want to have too much hope. i was very cautiously optimistic, but i'm not surprised, actually. i think ohio voters, just like voters everywhere else, are uninterested indian lied to, and that's what republicans try to do here. they tried to lie to them about this amendment. they tried to trick them. they try to hold up their

ability to even vote for the amendment at all. and i think what we saw tonight was a lot of righteous anger, not just about abortion rights, but about those attacks on democracy as well. >> can i just talk to about the attempts to frame what republicans are pushing for? nationally it's a 15-week abortion ban in the state of virginia. governor youngkin saying a 15 -week ban is just a limit. the moderates. the democrats are the extremists because they want to abortion on demand up to the moment of birth. that framing, litigating this of third trimester, which is where people who have abortions have them because the life of the fetus of the mothers in danger, they are vanishing lee rare. that strategy didn't work in ohio. nonetheless, it feels like this is a new playbook for 2024. don't litigate choice, litigates timeframe. >> and litigate language. what we saw in virginia, and what the national antiabortion word is interested in is ensuring their candidates and

the media don't call abortion bans bans. in virginia we saw multiple candidates come out with campaign ands ads said it's not a ban. i don't support an abortion ban. because they know that americans really don't like abortion bans. they are incredibly unpopular. so they're trying to distance themselves from these bands and paint this 15-week ban. they're calling it a reasonable compromise. but it's completely ridiculous, both because it's not accurate and because we know that they're not going to stop at 15 weeks. susan b anthony, pro-life america, big national anti-abortion groups, didn't spend millions of dollars in places like ohio and virginia to stop with 15 weeks. >> do you think that parental consent is the other sort of bogeyman in a lot of these conversations, having nothing to do with abortion on any issue, republicans always want you to inject parental consent

is the reason why you should not support something or support depending on what it is. that again fell flat here. i wonder what you think about it's staying power as a line of argument for republicans intent on passing abortion bans? >> i just don't think they can get around talking about the truth, which is that they want to ban abortion. they want to take control of people's bodies and lives and freedom. and people know. that voters don't lie to be tricked. they don't like to be lied to. the other big message we saw was anti-trans bigotry. they know that they're antichoice talking points were truly unpopular and so they were hoping that anti trans bigotry and parental rights will be a little bit more popular, and clearly that wasn't the case. >> jessica valenti, big night for democrats and progressive causes this evening, for freedoms reliant. thanks for your time. coming up, we will talk about the election results tonight in virginia, where democrats are hoping to hold the state senate

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governors races in a knee-jerk ballot initiative in ohio on the topic of abortion. it's also virginia that all eyes were on tonight, and the question there had to do with

the state legislature, republican governor glenn youngkin and his party's allies spending a fortune, democrat spending a fortune as well. republicans trying to gain full control of the state legislature to go with the governorship and to give youngkin an opportunity to really advance his agenda. so let's show you what has transpired in virginia at the state legislative level. it's not that often we talk about state legislative races, but they took this one seriously in virginia. times, record shattering sums of money. in the state senate, democrats came in with the four seat advantage. republicans believe they had a chance to flip the chamber, but the democrats just a short while ago hit the magic number of 21. guaranteeing them an outright majority. there still are two uncalled races, but no matter how they go, democrats will have a full majority in this chamber. they will retain control, and they will deny glenn youngkin and republicans the flip of the chamber that they were hoping for. so that alone, the state is

staying in democratic hands denies youngkin what he was looking for. the two houses of the legislature, where he could really move legislation through and get it signed. but that still left the question of the house of delegates, the lower house, and that's the one that republicans came into the night controlling they. had 52 seats, democrat 48, now, again, uncalled seats, but democrats have hit the magic number here as well, 51 seats. they will have at least 51 seats in the house of delegates. that means democrats will have full control of the house of delegates. republicans have lost control of that chamber. five seats still uncalled, with the headline news here, republicans came into the night hoping to flip the state senate, and hang on to the house of delegates. they are going to end this night failing to flip the state senate in losing control of the state house of delegates. so democrats are now gonna have control of both houses of the

legislature, the gulag could, republican governor, who had hoped to have the trifecta of the governorship house delegates and states and, it is now going to try to navigate the next couple of years of his term with a democratic, a fully democratic legislature. by the way, if youngkin had a big night tonight might be a surprise. late into the presidential campaign was a lot of reason to doubt that to begin with. validate lines have passed and all, but i think this can officially put that talk to rest. he does not get what he wanted tonight. we'll have more coverage, right after this. gh after this >> this hour tonight is that kentucky's democratic governor andy beshear has been reelected and ohio voters have voted to guarantee abortion rights in that state since the supreme court overturned roe versus raid last year. voters in seven states, including republican states like