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and people that are driven by greed. >> reporter: the fallout from the longest actors strike in history has been far reaching. the work stoppage not only hurting actors, but industries, like transportation, kraft services. the halt in productions cost california's economy billions of dollars. after more than 13 weeks, the hollywood ending so many have been hoping for. >> chloe melas with that reporting. that's going do it for us today. thank you for joining us. see you back here tomorrow, friday, same time, same place. until then, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. and good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with breaking news out of israel, the white house saying that israel has agreed to implement daily four-hour pauses in its military operations each day, beginning
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today. joining us now is nbc news gabe gutierrez at the white house. raf sanchez in tel aviv. also with us is retired general barry mccaffrey, former gulf war division commander and nbc news military analyst. gabe what do we know about the pauses? >> reporter: hi there, jose, good morning. news on several fronts here. a short time ago, we heard from the national security council spokesperson admiral john kirby an he said four-hour humanitarian pauses each day, three-hour warning would be given before those humanitarian pauses each day. the idea here being to be able to allow people to get from northern gaza to southern gaza. he srian corridors, including one road -- a coastal road that should make it easier for people to get into southern gaza. now, the president, though, was also asked about this, as he left the white house. he's heading to an economic event in illinois. but he also made some news because he was asked about the negotiations for a three-day
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humanitarian pause and nbc news had been reporting that diplomats had said that those negotiations were under way. the president was asked whether he did ask benjamin netanyahu for a three-day pause and the president responded that he actually has asked for a pause longer than that. again, that's news that the president just told reporters a short time ago as he was heading to illinois. he was also asked about the negotiations with benjamin netanyahu and i want to play some of what he said. take a listen. >> are you frustrated with prime minister netanyahu that he has not done more of what you asked him to do? >> taking a little longer than i hoped. >> reporter: so certainly quite a frank response there from president biden, being asked if he was frustrated with the pace of the response from prime minister benjamin netanyahu in israel and he's saying, taking a little bit longer than i hoped. really quickly, the president was also asked as he left the white house about those retaliatory strikes that the
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u.s. has conducted in eastern syria over the past several weeks. u.s. forces in the area have undergone about 41 attacks, the pentagon says, by iran-backed proxy groups and the president says he believes those retaliatory strikes are working, the biden administration trying to deter iran and others from getting into this conflict and turning it into a wider war. jose? >> and, raf what is the reaction in israel? >> reporter: well, jose, it is interesting that pause will give some predictability for palestinian civilians inside gaza. one thing you hear over and over again from parents trying to keep their children safe is that just in the absolute chaos, it is impossible to make decisions. you don't know whether to stay, whether to go, what the best thing do to keep your children safe is. these pauses will allow people to at least plan somewhat, albeit inside of a war zone. what is also notable about these pauses is they do not at this
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time appear to be linked to the release of the 240 hostages being held. the israelis had previously said that there would be no cease-fires, long or short, without the release of the hostages. i sat down earlier today with israeli president isaac herzog, he had just been briefed on the latest israeli intelligence about the hostages. he said at this time, there is no substantial offer from hamas on the table under discussion that could lead to the hostages' release. i also asked him about the warning president biden had when he was here in israel a few weeks ago, urging the israelis not to repeat the same mistakes that the united states had made after september 11th. take a listen to what he had to say. >> we are discussing these things in depth, including the lessons that we learned by the united states army in iraq and afghanistan. we are very much aware of it.
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but let's just explain, as opposed to places where -- which were thousands of miles from home, in the united states, these ones are three minutes from our homes. that's why they were used as the basis to butcher so many israelis. that's our dilemma. we don't want to conquer gaza. we have to make sure hamas is not there. that our people are not threatened. >> reporter: so, you hear the israeli prime minister there saying they take seriously the comments made by president biden. but also gaza is a lot closer to israel than afghanistan was to the united states after september 11th. they feel they have no choice but to go into gaza. i pressed him on the growing number of palestinian civilians being killed by israeli air strikes in gaza. he told me israel is doing everything it can to minimize civilian casualties and he placed the blame on hamas saying hamas has hidden its tunnels in
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residential areas. jose? >> general, your thoughts on these pauses? >> well, i think it is good news. the israelis have gotten more than a million palestinians out of the major area of combat already, 50,000 in the last day or so. so this notion of some relatively short pauses should assess the idf in getting the innocent palestinian populations out of north gaza. i do have to underscore, however, that hamas is a cruel, desperate terrorist organization that brought this upon themselves by the slaughter of hundreds and hundreds of israeli citizens. they're still firing rockets at israeli cities. hamas has not declared a cease-fire. they have not handed over 240 hostages. so, i think the israelis are
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responding to skillful determined u.s. diplomacy to signal to the region and to u.s. domestic audiences that they're pushing for peace. there will be no peace if hamas stays in control of gaza. ? so these pauses seem to be unilateral from israel's perspective. but normally there is something gained by all sides when there is a pause, seems as though we're not hearing of any hostages as you were saying being included in this. >> well, hamas, i'm sure, will dribble out hostages. israel will get back a dozen if they continue in this line of engagement with hamas leadership. but the 240, there is infants, there is old people, holocaust survivors, they'll never get
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them back. hamas will use them to keep the idf from what is a very skillful and deliberate attempt to eliminate the military arm. and that's going to take weeks to dominate not just the surface streets and vertical structures, but to get on the ground. i think the israelis will probably go along with increased peace initiatives if they thought they would get all the hostages back. but i think they're dubious and show -- the other thing i want to respond to is determined military action against them. >> general, also i want to get your thoughts on, you know, there has been -- and gabe gutierrez was referencing 41 attacks against american interests in the region. just -- we just learned an american, $30 million unmanned drone was shot down while in international air space off the coast of yemen.
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what is that reality and is it already a war that is expanded? >> well, i think it doesn't serve the interests of the united states, israel, nor iran to see thi go to a regional conflict. there are extensive u.s. military assets in the region, two carrier strike groups certainly major reinforcement of u.s. air force fighter power. so, iran doesn't want to take on the united states, doesn't want to cut off the flow of oil, doesn't want to deliberately and openly have the revolutionary guards push hezbollah with their 100,000 fighters in open conflict with israel. i don't think it is going to happen. but it is something that u.s. has to be concerned about. but, you know, it is very difficult to signal political objectives using military power. so, secretary austin and blinken and the president are being extremely judicious and
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sophisticated in trying to keep the war from widening. and so far so good. but it is a dangerous situation. i've been under attack by rockets myself, and if you're above ground, standing up, you're a goner. so, we had a bunch of troops injured, they have got to continue to try and put a halt to it, using surrogate attacks on u.s. forces. >> and, general, you are speaking of hezbollah, yesterday prime minister netanyahu said hezbollah attack in brazil was thwarted. this is now happening in our continent. general, how concerned are you about threats in our own country? >> of course, it is there. i would imagine -- the fbi and domestic law enforcement is saying it is a bigger danger, lone wolf attack, people salve self-radicalize. there is a huge growing palestinian-led u.s.-based
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pushback against israelis, the attack against hamas. behind that, we should recognize the revolutionary guards of iran. they are really a first rate terrorist organization themselves, with money and power and connections and they're all over latin america. so, it is something to be concerned about. but the main focus right now is keep the war from widening, try and build some engagement with hamas, that can get the hostages back. the prime concern of us as americans, however, has to be that the day the fighting stops, who is governing gaza and the west bank? two-state solution? 15 years from now, sure. but what is going to happen 30 days from now. can a pan-arab peacekeeping operation take charge? if not, the israelis are going to sit on gaza until they have
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killed every last hamas fighter they can find. >> and, meanwhile, gabe, we don't -- it is 6:11 p.m. where raf is. gabe, any idea when these pauses are set to begin? they say today. well, any idea when the pauses will begin? >> reporter: we have not gotten any information on that yet, jose. only to say that admiral john kirby told us the pauses were set to start today. one other point, the admiral did mention that the goal would be to get no less than 150 humanitarian aid trucks in to gaza, each day. more than 100 yesterday and about 96 of them two days ago. so this is certainly an ongoing situation, not just trying to get the hostages out, but as the biden administration has been saying over the last couple of days, couple of weeks rather, not enough humanitarian aid is getting in, and ongoing part of
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these negotiations is to try and get more of those aid trucks in as well. we don't have exact clarity on when that humanitarian pause would begin, and then another question, jose, we're hearing from the president, talking about that he had asked for longer than a three-day pause of benjamin netanyahu, at what point does that essentially become a temporary cease-fire? the biden administration has been very careful not to use that word cease-fire, because its position is that it would only help hamas, but a lot of questions on what constitutes a humanitarian pause, what is a humanitarian cease-fire, a temporary cease-fire, we just don't know at this point. but the president again making that news that he does seem frustrated or took a little longer than he hoped to secure these four-hour humanitarian pauses we learned about a short time ago. >> and raf sanchez, as we were speaking, we were showing the image, israel and gaza have their line there, and it seemed
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there were some flashes at night. so, raf, give us an understanding of this is pauses, et cetera, but the reality day in and day out, for the people of gaza and there in israel, have been pretty consistently one of rockets and bombs and explosions. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. this situation inside gaza is absolutely dire. i was speaking to a young mother yesterday, she has a 2-year-old daughter named sophia, that family is living off of one piece of bread per person per day. they are drinking water that they know is unclean, that is making them sick, that they don't have any other choice, they say, because there is no other water to drink. they say the humanitarian aid is not reaching them in any significant way. the hope for this family, for many families across gaza is that the pauses, coupled with that significant ramp up of aid
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will make a material difference to them. it may mean that people who are inside gaza city, who are thinking about trying to get south, where it is safer, not safe, but it is safer, may have more of an opportunity to plan. if you have a sick elderly relative and have been thinking there is just no way that i can take them through streets where israeli forces are fighting open gun battles against hamas gunmen, if you have some relative confidence that there is going to be four hours of quiet, you may attempt to make that move. now, as the general is saying, hamas has a say in this. we don't know if they are going to refrain from attack israeli troops around gaza city. we don't know if that he will refrain from attacking the areas near the humanitarian corridors during these pauses and we don't know if they have any intention of releasing any of the hostages in return as it were for this gesture. i asked the israeli president earlier about what did seem to
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be these growing public disagreements between israel and the united states on this issue of humanitarian pauses, he said that they were working on it, they were planning to ramp it up, and it seems like he may have been gesturing towards this announcement. we have yet to hear anything formal from the israelis after this comment from john kirby. it is a little unusual, jose, that you have a spokesman for the white house announcing what it is that the israeli military is or isn't going to be doing in the middle of a war zone and the admiral was careful to say that ultimately this is israel's operation, they are making the decisions, but the united states has been consistently saying from the president on down that they feel these humanitarian pauses need to happen and now, jose, the devil will very much be in the detail and we will see possibly today, but certainly in the coming days, how these pauses work, whether they do facilitate more aid getting in, whether they do facilitate more
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palestinians getting out of northern gaza, but it is a very, very complex situation with a lot of moving parts on the ground. jose? >> complex and unusual indeed. gabe gutierrez, raf sanchez, general barry mccaffrey, thank you for being with us this morning. up next, reaction from voters to the third republican presidential debate that was heavy on policy and personal attacks. did any of them have a standout moment? we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. es you're watching "jose diaz-balart repos"rt on msnbc.
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18 past the hour. five republican presidential candidates faced off in miami last night in their third debate. ron desantis, nikki haley, vivek ramaswamy, chris christie and tim scott answered questions on foreign policy, including issues about israel, ukraine, and china, also domestic issues including inflation, social
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security and abortion. the one person who was not on stage last night was donald trump. he was about 15 minutes away from the debate venue, holding a rally with his supporters in hialeah. but that didn't stop those on stage from speaking about him. >> donald trump's a lot different guy than he was in 2016. he owes it to you to be on this stage and explain why he should get another chance. >> i can tell you that i think he was the right president at the right time. i don't think he's the right president now. >> anybody who is going to be spending the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot leave this party or this country and needs to be said plainly. >> one of the most memorable moments of the debate came during a discussion over whether to ban the app tiktok owned by a chinese company. >> i want to laugh at why nikki haley didn't answer your question. she made fun of me for joining
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tiktok. her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time, so you might want to take care of your family first. >> leave my daughter out of your voice. >> the next generation of americans are using and that's actually the point. supporters propping her up, that's fine. here's the truth -- >> you're just scum. >> let's bring in our nbc news correspondents, marisa para, shaquille brewster and vaughn hillyard here in miami. so governor ron desantis was at the center podium for last night's debate. what did voters tell you about what they thought of the debate? >> jose, good morning. we have been talking to every republican voter we can find. i've been asking everyone who is willing to talk with me with or without a camera, asking, just getting a check of how they're feeling about 2024. i hear a lone vote of support for tim scott, ramaswamy here and there. but overwhelmingly, what we hear on the ground in florida, here in jacksonville, very veteran
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friendly, the support really is behind donald trump and governor ron desantis, two of florida's own. i do notice among veterans there say particular amount of support for desantis, fellow veteran himself. what i thought was interesting last night, we had a watch party, a local gop debate watch party, and i talked to the room, i made my rounds around the room, and once again we found exactly the same, most of the room seemed to be behind desantis or trump. but when i asked them after the debate what was the moment that stood out to you, it was this one, right here. >> let's find consensus. let's agree on what -- how we can ban late term abortions. let's encourage adoptions and good quality adoptions, let's make contraception available. let's focus on how to save as many babies as we can, and support as many moms as we can.
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>> so, that was nikki haley offering her thoughts on abortion and what i noticed in the room was she wasn't really on the radar of that many people in the room, but after that moment, when i asked people in the room how they felt they said that it just felt like a standout moment of the night, and also even around the abortion debate, especially within the republican party. take a listen to what some of the people in that room had to say last night. >> i felt like what nikki haley said about abortion is probably the greatest thing a republican has ever said about abortion. >> in terms of nikki haley's response about abortion, i agree with her. i think that it is not black and white. i think that there are many different reasons why women may choose to have an abortion or not. if i personally don't believe in it, i don't believe that someone else should have that choice, they should have that right. i think she explained that great how she would handle it. >> so here is the kicker, jose.
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one thing i thought was really interesting was i also followed up with them, and i said, okay, who were the people that stood out on the stage. the answer overwhelmingly was nikki haley with the one comment or ron desantis overall. i asked the people in the room, especially those who said at the beginning of the debate, the people who said that they were diehard trump supporters, including trina carver, the last person that we heard from just now and i said, no, those moments were not enough to change their minds. they are diehard supporters of donald trump, this did not change their mind, but it did make them look at those candidates in a different light. they said they're looking at them as possibilities for the future trump administration, so, jose, we know what an uphill battle these candidates have. last night was them fighting for an opportunity to change the minds of trump supporters. in the room i was in last night, it didn't seem to do exactly that. but we know those candidates are going to have to continue to do exactly that if they have an actual shot of winning,
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especially when you look at the polls right now. donald trump very far ahead. >> and as is donald trump very far ahead, in places like iowa, shaq, we're 67 days away from the caucuses there, what did voters in iowa have to make of what the candidates had to say last night? >> i'll first say that they really appreciated our moderators. the moderators for this debate. multiple people came up to me afterward and said make sure you tell lester and kristen they did a good job, more substantive than any other debate and they felt like there was more control. they got more information out of watching this debate. when you talk to folks about what they were listening for what did they connect with and what they heard on that debate stage, it was definitely the foreign policy discussion, the divide you see on that stage was also in that room, some people connected with the more hawkish, the more aggressive tone that some of the candidates took. some people agreed with the candidates who were saying, no, we're not going to send american troops, we need to limit or have more accountability on aid we
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send overseas. one thing that really stuck out with me, look, this is iowa, they are used to voting first, used to being involved in this process, while some people say they're stuck on a candidate and not shifting at all, you heard nuance in the conversations. listen to how you see both of those in some of the conversations that we had. >> hands down nikki haley. we need serious politicians in office. she is clearly very knowledgeable. >> my allegiance is still with donald trump. but i really like the way that ron desantis came out, i think much stronger in this debate than the first one. i still swing back to donald trump who kept peace for four years. >> reporter: in this room full of iowans who all say they plan to caucus in january, i asked if kim reynolds' endorsement earlier this week of ron desantis had any impact on how they're viewing the candidates specifically ron desantis.
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and nearly everyone in that room raised their hand and said they view him more favorably. they like their governor. they appreciate the record that she had. and what she has been able to do in this state and they say it is at least making them a little bit more interested in ron desantis. i'll also say, when i asked should donald trump be on that stage, that was another moment, one of the few moments you had broad consensus and nearly everyone raised their hand and said they believe he should be on that debate stage. >> he was not on that debate stage. he was holding a rally, just a couple of miles from that debate stage in hialeah. what was that like? >> reporter: right, i regret i'm not sitting next to you. we're 12 miles away from each other right now. similar situation last night, i was down with donald trump at a rally in hialeah, which is a heavily cuban-american neighborhood just outside of miami, by about 12 miles. for donald trump this was a counterrally good 5,000, 6,000
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folks in attendance. for donald trump this is the third debate he has not taken part in. he has no intention of taking part in next month's debate in alabama. he maintained he has such a significant polling lead nationally and in the earl states that why would he give them any credence? so far, these other campaigns have been hoping that indictments, the major civil lawsuit out of new york would put them in better striking distance of donald trump. but what you heard him on the stage last night for more than an hour during his remarks was give them little acknowledgement, only referencing nikki haley and a disparaging way and commenting on one of the others who were on the debate stage. for donald trump, he maintained he and his campaign maintain they're focused on joe biden and it is on the republican candidates to consolidate their field and get behind him as we're now 67 days out from the
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iowa caucus. i was talking to a senior adviser after donald trump's rally last night who told me that they are maintaining the belief that the best use of republican money as well as volunteer support, activist support, is to put the focus on joe biden, who is able to build up his infrastructure, really running a clear cut front-runner campaign. and that the onus is on the other republicans to get off the debate stage and coalesce around him. of course, that's not going to be the reality, but for donald trump last night, he made much of it about the grievances around being targeted through these indictments here and making the case that it is imperative that he has a second shot at the white house so that he can go and clear out in his words the deep state and make good on the hopes of the maga movement that they did not get the opportunity to fulfill in the second term after his 2020
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33 past the hour. back to our top story out of middle east this morning. the white house says that israel has agreed to implement a daily four-hour pause on the military operations in gaza beginning today. earlier this hour, as news of the cease-fire was breaking, this is what the view into fwauz gaza looked like. an explosion in the distance. joining us now is nbc's courtney kube. good morning. what is the latest on this announcement? >> yeah, that's right, jose. so, as you can see, the fighting continues. and from a u.s. military perspective, last night secretary austin announced that president biden had ordered him to conduct strikes in northeastern syria. this is in response to a series, a real uptick in attacks against bases housing americans in iraq and syria.
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there was one air strike, in an area called darazor. it hit a facility that was housing ammunition, maybe some weapons, that belonged to the iranian islamic revolutionary guard corps, including may have had an affiliation with the qods force. the recent attacks have been carried out by the myrrh militia groups. late last night after the u.s. took this strike, a u.s. defense official is saying they're calling on iran to tell these proxy groups to stop carrying out these attacks. just moments ago, we heard from president biden where he was asked by reporters, leaving the white house, would the u.s. continue to carry out the strikes. >> and it is all backed, a lot of americans have been injured here. >> at least 46 that we know
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about. the majority of the injuries have been minor, but there have been a number, two dozen traumatic brain injuries. that is an injury that can range, it can be anywhere from very mild to extremely severe. those individuals who have this possible traumatic brain injury will have to be monitored for months if not longer to see if their injuries even get worse. and if they need additional treatment. so far, all injuries that we're aware of, people have been returned to duty. there have been at least 40 attacks on bases with americans in iraq and syria since october 17th. and we're now waiting to see whether this strike last night that the u.s. took, whether it has any sort of deterrent effect on the attacks continuing. >> courtney kube, thank you so very much. really appreciate the time. joining us from jerusalem is jason lee, country director at save the children international for the occupied palestinian territory. good to see you under these
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difficult circumstances. i appreciate your time. tell me your reaction to the news of the pause. >> any step that is designed to protect civilians is welcomed. however, a pause cannot be an alternative to a cease-fire. there will still be many civilians that would not be able to move. children with disabilities, the elderly, patients in hospitals that are sick will not be able to seek shelter or safety in four hours. and while it is a step in the right direction, it cannot replace a cease-fire. >> yeah. and the -- that's the unfortunate reality of war, unless there is a cease-fire in a war, the situation is never going to be in any way easy for so many people. so, what is the situation on the ground there, you think, right now? >> the situation is still dire. we have one child that is killed every ten minutes. it is imperative that there is a
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cease-fire, because that's the only way that civilians can be kept safe. it is the only way to stop the horrific injuries that children are sustaining. there are more than 25,000 people that are injured and one out of three is a child. the cease-fire is critical. also we require good supplies to come in. much more, a four-hour humanitarian pause without goods going in will not allow us to meet the needs of the people. we need fuel. for civilians not able to move during the pause, they do not forfeit their right for protection or to receive assistance. therefore it is critical that we still move for a cease-fire. a humanitarian pause is a step in the right direction, but it do not be an alternative or replace a need for a cease-fire. >> how -- it is so complicated. when you just bring up the numbers, every single person,
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individuals, lives, matter. and if you have, you know, thousands of kids, tens of thousands of people losing their lives in this, civilians, when you have an area so densely populated, but it is controlled in many ways by the group that is in war with the israeli people, how is it that one can help when you need fuel, you need water, you need food. raf sanchez was talking to a person yesterday who said they're living off one slice of bread per family member per day, inside gaza. when you have a group that creates and organizes and has such an infrastructure over the entire civilian population, how do you deal with that? >> that is why it is imperative
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that all parties in the conflict must adhere to international law. the cost to the civilian population, the starvation, the dehydration, the being killed by diseases, that will run rampant, we already are seeing that there is disease amongst kids that are much more vulnerable to this. there are risks of cholera outbreaks. it is imperative there must be cease-fire. this is the only way to protect civilians. this is the only way to keep children from dying and from losing all hopes of having a future. goods must come in. and it is impossible task, four hours will not change the situation for children. children will still be killed at a rate of one child every ten minutes and for the four hours, that may stop, but then when the pauses are over, children will die again. it is heart breaking because when i speak to children, when i was in gaza before this
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(♪♪) 52 past the hour. the $250 million civil trial facing former president trump and his two adult sons is about to enter its next phase on monday. the trump defense will begin presenting its case. trump's eldest daughter ivanka took the stand yesterday as the last witness called by the state. she denied knowing much about her father's financial statements, which are at the heart of this case. trump and his sons are accused of inflating the value of various trump properties to secure better rates from banks and insurers. they deny any wrongdoing. joining us now is charles coleman. good to see you. just thinking, trump's legal team will begin on monday. what are you watching for? >> jose, it's going to be interesting it see how donald trump's defense team is able to
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counteract the narrative presented by the attorney general's office. basically, what they have been trying to advance in front of the judge is the idea that, we didn't know anything about this. this is all on the experts. this is not something we had a direct hand in in terms of the missed evaluations. the prosecutors have done a very good job of trying to make those connections. i will be interested to see how through the use of their own witnesses, experts, and then potential actual witnesses, donald trump and his children as well, whether they are able to dispel the connections and disconnect them in a way that will shield them from further penalty. it's important to remember, they have already been found to be fraudulent because the judge made that determination. >> what do you think ivanka's testimony contributed to, one side or the other? >> that's a great question. i don't think it necessarily hurt donald trump. but i don't necessarily know that it did a ton to help the prosecution. i think it was more helpful to
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questionable around the standard that's set forth in the constitution for removing someone from the ballot for these provisions is unclear. i don't necessarily know that that's going to result in donald trump being removed from the ballot for these reasons. >> always a pleasure. thanks for being with us. >> thanks, jose. that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news after a quick break. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. and, they felt dramatic and fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections,
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