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♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the white house is touting that breakthrough in negotiations with israel to help palestinian civilians in gaza. this is not the one to three-day pause in air strikes that the u.s. and qatar have been seeking to try to create a path that they hoped would clear a way for potential hostage release. but they are agreeing to shorter pauses, significant first steps, according to the white house, towards minimizing casualties. 50,000 made the exodus on gaza on monday. not far from where strikes and ground conflicts were happening. the new four-hour pauses will allow more aid to get out. the white house aiming for 150 aim trucks every day. they say that's a minimum. israel previously demanded the release of all the hostages before approving any pause.

the white house will not say if any of the hostages, including the ten americans, are part of any deal. gabe gutierrez is at the white house. jason strazuso with the red cross. gabe, talk to us about what negotiations are still underway and how it came together. >> the biden administration and national security spokesperson john kirby announcing israel agreed to the four-hour pauses and a three-hour warng each day. a lot of questions about the details of this, wheer there was a pause earlier today. a short time ago we did see explosions over gaza. you see the proposal, one to three-day pause, that that was one -- was something being discussed by officials from qatar, the u.s. and israel over the last several days, according to diplomats. that's what diplomats told nbc news. this is much shorter. however, the national security council announcing earlier today that this could be something

that allows more aid in and also significantly would allow safe passage from northern gaza into southern gaza by civilians. israel had agreed to two humanitarian corridors in gaza as well. as to how this came about, admiral kirby was asked about that. he said this comes after direct engage mrnt by president biden with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. of course, as you very well know, this comes after a whirlwind trip by secretary of state an tlon any blinken to the region. it's significant that it was the americans that announced this pause, not the israelis. a short time ago, we saw the israeli defense forces on social media post that this was not a cease-fire, just a short humanitarian pause. significantly, president biden was asked about this earlier today. he was asked whether he was

frustrated with how -- whether this took too long in the negotiations with prime minister netanyahu. the president said he would have liked for this to have happened sooner. he was asked whether he had indeed asked for a three-day humanitarian pause. he said he asked for a pause that was much longer. that news this morning, the u.s. announcing that israel had agreed to that four-hour humanitarian pause each day. >> raf sanchez is joining us from tel aviv. when is the first pause beginning? has it begun? has the promised three-hour advance warning been issued? what can you tell us about this? it's so critical to the gazans we are talking to inside the strip who are fearful from moment to moment that something is going to hit them. >> yeah, these are literally questions of life and death for the 2 million people inside of gaza right now. as yet, we have no indication that the israeli military has

given palestinian civilians a sign that tonight there is a pause coming. you can see the sun is down here. the electricity is very limited in gaza. it's unlikely that large numbers of palestinian civilians are going to move around in the nighttime. it's simply too risky. these humanitarian corridors we have seen open over the last couple of days, those have happened during daylight hours. i wouldn't expect at this stage any major movement inside of gaza. we are also hearing for first time from both the israeli military and the prime minister's office responding to that announcement from the white house that there will be these humanitarian pauses. they seem to be trying to make a distinction between a humanitarian pause and a cease-fire. the israeli military insisting there's no cease-fire. there are tactical local pauses for humanitarian aid for gazan civilians. earlier today, i sat down with

israeli president isaac hertzog. i asked him about the reports there might be a bigger, more comprehensive deal in the works. a three-day cease-fire in exchange for more aid and possibly the release of hostages. he told me at that time earlier this morning that there was no substantial offer from hamas on the table that would lead to the release of the hostages. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i'm saying outright, according to my knowledge, up to now, there's no real substantial information that is showing any real offer of any process on the table. that is unfortunate. of course, we are working both on the military front and in all other fronts to bring them become home. >> i asked him if there's no real progress towards a comprehensive deal to free the hostages, does that mean israel's only option to get them

out is a military rescue? he wouldn't go into that kind of detail. he did say, andrea, that israel has thousands, in his words, of officials, soldiers, spies working around the clock on the hostage issue. i also pressed him on the growing number of palestinian civilians killed by israeli air strikes inside of gaza. we heard the second general of the united nations overnight saying something must be going wrong with israel'smilitary operations for there to be this level of civilian casualties. the president said israel is doing everything to minimize loss of life among innocent palestinians. but he blamed this on hamas, saying hamas is deliberately hiding tunnels and command centers under residential areas. >> both things could be true at the same time. jason, from the people i'm talking to, on all sides, frankly, rather, raf.

jason, this is enormously frustrating to you. do you see some progress in the pauses and in the agreement, supposedly, for 150 trucks to get in and the white house says that's the minimum? they have to build on this. but 150 trucks a day. >> we would welcome any action, any decision that decreases the danger to civilians as well as increases the assistance that is able to get in. if a family decides that these pauses are working and that they need to move, maybe they need medical care, then, of course, that's something we would welcome. if assistance is able to move during these pauses, that would be very welcome relief. i could note that earlier this week, a convey of assistance moving towards a hospital from the international community of the red cross received incoming fire. there's real danger for these gazan families who might want to move, and there's real danger

for humanitarians trying to move assistance to hospitals. i'd like to add one more thought. there are two sides, when it comes to the deep suffering that's occurring because of this conflict. i can imagine an israeli family who has a family member held hostage, they might say, where is our humanitarian pause? that's just to remind that a pause would be great in gaza, but we are working to alleviate the suffering of the families of hostages and get access to those people as well. >> i know under international law, you are supposed to already -- a month ago -- have had immediate access to the hostages to get them supplies, to get them in touch with their families. that is what is required. hamas has not permitted any of that. it's important to note that these families, whether it's 239 or 240 families, they don't know whether they are alive or dead.

>> yeah. that's an immense amount of grief that they're going through. we hear from the families. we have met with the families. we wish that we could force our way in to where the hostages are. sometimes the families in any conflict, not just this one, demand, wish, hope, plea for us to do that. the fact is that we need permission from the people that hold the guns and the people that control the territory. we are continuing to work and insist. the lines of communication are open. i know we have been saying that for many days now. it's frustrating to hear. but we do have proof points in the past of the work we have done with hostages that have been released. these conversations are still happening. we really are trying. we really do understand the grief the families are going through. >> jason, thank you for making that point. raf, a great interview with president herzog. gabe, as always, great reporting from the white house.

thanks so much. we are continuing to follow the breaking news that israel is going to implement this four-hour pauses or these pauses every day, supposedly, in the fighting. i will talk to the uk's ambassador, the britishal bass door to the united states, when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 60 seconds. stay with us. you are watching msnbc. seconds stay with us you are watching msnbc (husband) no way they'd take this wreck. (carolers) ♪ yes, they will, and you'll get iphone 15 pro, ♪ ♪ aaannnnnddddd apple tv 4k, and apple one - ♪ ♪ all three on them! ♪ (wife) do that. (carolers) ♪ we tried to tell him but he paid us a lot... ♪ (husband) it was a lot... ♪ mhmmm ♪ (vo) this holiday turn any iphone, in any condition, into a new iphone 15 pro with titanium, apple tv 4k, and six months of apple one. all three on us. it's holiday everyday with verizon. when migraine strikes you're faced with a choice. ride it out with the tradeoffs of treating? or push through the pain and symptoms? with ubrelvy, there's another option. one dose works fast to eliminate migraine pain treat it anytime, anywhere.

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this at least will create a corridor or a pause for them to get out if there's an agreement on them. >> i think the pause will be of most use for getting humanitarian supplies in and letting civilians leave of their own accord, those people who want to. we have managed to get some british civilians out. i think for the hostages, hamas ought to release them unconditionally. it's unconscionable they took them. it's unconscionable that they hold them. i think from what i know, more talks will need to happen before we can have hostages released. this is a very good sign. it shows that people are trying to protect civilians, shows the israelis are acting in good faith with the civilians. hopefully, it will be a spur to getting hostages out. >> at the g7 in tokyo, where our foreign ministers, with there was -- i am told -- disagree on the three-day pose. it was agreed to issue the statement saying pauses would be

hopeful -- helpful. what's the british position on a three-day pause? >> i don't really want to put a figure on it. one day, three days, five days, it's difficult to measure. it's difficult to stop hamas exploiting that for its own purposes. i think these pauses daily, four-hour pauses from israelis, that's a good sign. we will get aid in. we have been sending airlifts via egypt. they will help civilians leave. >> do you have british citizens trying to getd through the rafah gate? >>e got 150 out so far. i think there are a few more left who would like to leave. it hasn't been straightforward, as you can imagine. but we have teams on the ground and in egypt and in jordan waiting to help british nationals. >> one of the other issues that has come up, buffer zones. i'm told the palestinians are against them. they don't want to give up more land on the strip. israel isn't going to give up

any land. but they want a demilitarized zone. what is your view of that? would that even be possible? >> i think it's one idea that would need to be studied carefully. there are a number of other ideas. it's early to say what is the idea that will work. demilitarized zones in all my experience can be useful. they do carry certain problems in that you need both sides to respect them. i know the u.n. is always concerned about anything that looks like a safe zone. sadly, they sound good, they sound sensible, but actually they can make people even more lnerable, ironic as that is. it's one of those things we need so sit down and work out what the day after looks like. i think the one thing we do know is that hamas cannot stay in gaza in control of gaza. >> the u.s. has had more air strikes overnight against iranian ircg positions, warehouse supplies, in syria. so far, this has not deterred

more than 40 strikes against u.s. positions. a reaper drone was shot down by houthi forces from yemen. this is a steady tempo. is the u.s. doing enough, or should there be more action taken? >> i think they made clear it was a precision attack. in that sense, i would say it's proportion at. the u.s. have this right. they are acting in self-defense. they are being proportion at. messages have been sent to the region by our prime minister and the foreign second as well as secretary blinken about no escalation. >> do you think iran will hold off? you have diplomatic relations. we don't. how are you reading this? >> it's a brave diplomat who tried to guess what iran would do. i won't do that. we have talked to them.

we are urging them and other regional partners not to let any of this escalate. we will go on doing that. i have to think we need to keep a very close eye on what's happening in the region not just in israel, gaza, crucial as that is. >> dame karen pierce, the ambassador from the uk, thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up next, foreign policy, abortion and personal attacks. the top takeaways from the third republican presidential debate on nbc. what could it mean for the candidates as they try to catch up with frontrunner donald trump? that's next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. mitchell reports" on msnbc -thanks for swinging by, carl. -no problem. so what are all those for? uh, this lets me adjust the base, add more guitar, maybe some drums. -wow. so many choices. -yeah. like schwab. i can get full service wealth management, advice, invest on my own, and trade on thinkorswim. you know carl is the only front man you need. (phone rings) oh, i gotta take this, carl. it's schwab.

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the republican debate in miami had fireworks and a lot of substance. it's the race for second place as donald trump held his own rally barely 15 miles away and dominates the gop polls. joining us now, vaughn hillyard outside the debate site in miami, kimberly atkins stohr, and tim miller. vaughn, let's start with what the candidates did say last night about the former president. take a listen. >> he should explain why he didn't drain the swamp. he said republicans were going to get tired of winning. we saw last night, i'm sick of republicans losing. >> i can tell you i think he was the right president at the right time. i don't think he is the right

president now. i think that he put us $8 trillion in debt. our kids will never forgive us for that. >> anybody who can spend the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot lead this party or this country. >> vaughn, give us a little recap of both the debate and the response from trump. if you will some 15 miles away at a rally. >> reporter: exactly. he made the decision to hold the rally at the same time, 11 miles down the road. ramaswamy joined in saying that the rnc chair woman should resign. of course, she received backing of donald trump in previous years. was the hand picked selection. you heard the republicans making the appeal to the voters that it's time to move in a new direction. i can tell you that i was actually down the road at trump's counterrally having conversations with supporters here in florida who came for the rally instead of watching the

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key trump alternative, it's shrinking. 67 days from the iowa caucus. >> it's catching up with us and on them. kimberly, abortion was clearly the top issue at the debate as well as at the elections on tuesday. the democrats' big victories. let me play some of the responses on abortion. >> i think of all the stuff that's happened to the pro-life cause. they have been caught flat-footed. they have been losing the refer enda. people who were voting are republicans who would vote for a republican candidate. >> let's find consensus. let's agree on what -- how we can ban late-term abortions. make sure we encourage adoption and good quality adoptions. let's make sure we make contraception accessible. stop the judgment. we don't need to divide america over this issue anymore. >> three out of four americans agree with a 15-week limit.

47 out of 50 countries in europe agree with a 15-week limit. i would challenge nikke and ron to join me at a 15-week limit. >> kim, tim scott's position seems to ignore what happened to glenn youngkin's 15-week abortion law, which was clearly rejected because it was top of mind for voters, republican voters and democratic voters, in virginia. >> yeah. tim scott is calling for a national ban, which certainly is completely out of step with what voters across the country very clearly said on tuesday. it seemed with the exception of nikki haley, the republicans on the stage last night were speaking to a world that they thought they would believe in or maybe they had their talking points lined up before tuesday's election and failed to change them, because those messages are

clearly losing at the polls. this is not a matter that there wasn't enough opposition to state referendum. this is a result of the overturning of roe versus wade. only nikki haley got the memo. if this is a sign of how republicans will continue, it could be very bad news for them next year. >> she seemed to be the only one looking for a way around what is an obvious political problem for republicans in the upcoming year. tim miller, let's talk about president trump. does he now run away from his embrace of the supreme court justices that he appointed? i don't know how he can. the success of roe v. wade, does he try to become more moderate, hope nobody notices? >> before i get to president trump, i want to do something

more important. congratulate vaughn on getting married and express his somebody he had to spend his honeymoon at a trump rally. as the former president on abortion, he wants to have this both ways. he was always uncomfortable with this. he made a deal with the evangelical right in order to assure that he would have their votes in 2016. that's why he chose mike pence. that's why he made the deal on judges. donald trump has never been an abortion hardliner. this is the results that has come from the deals is that we have the supreme court that we have. i think donald trump is going to try to run away from that, run tots middle on abortion. the question is, are democrats going to be able to prevent him from doing that and to tie him to mike johnson, new speaker, an extremist, the extreme bills passed because of the overturn

of dobbs? that's the fight we have next year as donald trump tries to run away from that and democrats try to hang a lantern on it. >> to vaughn, happily married vaughn, and congratulations, of course. at this next republican debate, we will subject you to another debate question, could there be fewer than five? will they make the cut? it's a higher threshold. >> reporter: right. this is where ultimately the pressure is on the other candidates. the extent to which they stay in good graces with donald trump. take tim scott. i asked an advisor to donald trump last night about tim scott, somebody who donald trump has not spoken an ill word of to date. tim scott could be a potential vice presidential pick. there's the question, the longer he stays in and the more difficult reality that he faces with poll numbers that aren't going up, suddenly there are serious questions in play of whether somebody like tim scott would be an exciting vice

presidential pick. nikki haley has gone all in on donald trump. for donald trump, we have seen a republican party over the last eight years coalesce around him because of the peril that folks who counter and cross him face. there's the potential of donald trump serving four years in the white house again. for anybody who is looking at their own political capital and political future, including those folks on that stage there yesterday, there are serious questions each of them will have to be looking at whether they are on that debate stage or not come december 8th in alabama. >> december 8th in alabama. thank you, vaughn, kimberly, tim. thanks to all. raising the alarm, one of the 26 senate democrats who signed on to a letter to the president asking for more information about israel's plans for the u.s. aid and they are trying to -- trying to get passed and how they're trying to mitigate civilian deaths.

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26 senate democrats are demanding answers from president biden about how u.s. aid to go to israel would be used. they are raising concerns about the growing civilian casualties. democratic senator jeff murphy is one of those democrats and joins me now. he is a member of the appropriations committee. you have a lot of power there, senator, as an appropriator. your reaction to the newly announced four-hour pauses which were mentioned in the letter,

some pauses to get aid in. have you had any response from the white house? some of the members were visiting with staff last night or with the president. >> there has been no response to the letter. the letter addresses a number of things, the current conduct, whether it's in sync with international humanitarian law, what is the vision for humanitarian relief, what is the vision for the day after, are we going to be able to have a path to a two-state solution? i can tell you one of the issues that just keeps coming up is, are we on direction in which rubble and despair will produce hate and violence forever more? is there a completely different vision for the future? a lot of concerns about the immediate situation. a lot of concerns about the path to the future. >> i can tell you in the

briefing we had today with john kirby, where they were announcing this pause, and agreement with israel, he was asked about continuing strikes against hospitals, ambulances and the like. he said that there is always a concern that any action against a hospital would be proportional. he repeated that there are clear laws, laws of war against that. they are trying to avoid directly criticizing israel for that. i have been told that israel does have some central -- i don't know if it's command and control, i don't know if the u.s. confirmed that, but there's some independent confirmation, i don't know whether you know, whether there are hamas groups under some of the medical facilities. >> i just got off the phone with ambassador satterfield. >> who is there right now. >> based on his many years of

experience, he has no doubt that there are tunnels under hospitals. he also said, look, when you have a hospital full of wounded people, it cannot be a target ever. is there work on the four-hour pause. i'm glad for the pause. israel has emphasized that that's primarily for two corridors, one along the coast and the north/south higay to be utilized for people to move to the south. we have to have a much bigger infusion of humanitarian aid. the united states was calling for a minimum of three days, because there's a huge lack of food and water and medicine. just the basic components of humanitarian aid in food, water, medicine, require at least 100 trucks a day. we are getting close to that. we went many weeks without that. that's just the core basics, minimal. then you have to get it distributed. you need a longer period to get it to the warehouses, to repair

the roads to get it delivered. you need communication for people to know how to access that. communications cannot be shut down. the internet and the cell. you need safe zones where people know if they go to these areas they will be safe. there's so much desperation about if i move from here to there, there might be bombed as well. israel says they are trying to alert people. about buildings and -- but understand what it looks like on the ground is that israel is no longer doing the double tap, which is essentially a big firecracker that you put off over a building before you bomb it. they are saying, we make phone calls. the cellphones are dead because there hasn't been power or they are turned off to save what little power is left in them. they are turned on just for moments a day. if the cell system is down, there's no cell connection anyway. there's a huge mortality of women, children, non-combatants.

it's a significant needs to be held to rethink all of this. we have to be part of that. our supply of both financial aid and military aid makes us a partner in this. we are in a period of transition. before we basically said the best way we can help israel towards afuture of peace is to know we have their back, they will do the right thing. but now we have seen what has transpired in the west bank with the daily de facto an exaon through highways and outposts. we have seen the despair that has bred violence. we have to be engaged towards a better future. >> thank you so much, senator jeff murphy. the israel aid hangs in the balance. thank you. >> you are welcome. the voice of the voters. after last night's third republican presidential debate, voters in iowa are weighing who is standing out and who may be

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you spoke with voters at the debate watch party. what were they telling you? >> reporter: andrea, one big takeaway is that we are here in iowa. voters are patient. they are clear that one debate or one moment is not going to make up their mind or help them make their final determination. there were clearly moments that connected with folks who were at that debate watch party. one thing is that foreign policy discussion. folks were listening to that closely. the conversations that you heard in the room reflected the debate you heard on the stage, where there's a split in the republican party over those who want america to do more overseas, whether it's dealing with israel and hamas, or the war between ukraine and russia, while others are saying, america has done enough. one other connection that i saw and one common theme i picked up on is that there's a split somewhat between voters who like a candidate and have a connection with a candidate and who they -- the decision on who

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leaving town until monday with no more votes scheduled this week. no plan to avoid a government shutdown, which is only eight days from now. they also have mayor disagreements among themselves and with the senate over aid to israel, ukraine, and border security. joining us now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent julie tsirkin and former republican michigan congressman fred upton. julie, first to you. how are they going to avoid a shutdown next week? i guess a short-term continuing resolution, but are they going to get approval on that? >> well, that's a big question. i spoke to five house republicans who are all on different pages when it comes to how to pursue the short-term government funding measure. the question is what are the contours going to be? speaker johnson has not yet made a decision i'm told on what that plan is going to look like. there are some options he floated including what's known as a ladered cr essentially would stagger some of these different appropriations bills creating a logistical nightmare

in the full sense of that word, not only in the lower chamber but the upper chamber in the senate. there's also this option of a clean continuing resolution with status quo spending levels that they approved for the last fiscal year. that's something a lot of hard line conservatives said they will never support. however, they still told me, according to thomas massie, for example, that they're still in a honeymoon period with speaker johnson. the question is that honeymoon period looks like it's coming to a rapid end after they failed to advance even their own partisan spending bills this week. take a listen to what house democratic leader hakeem jeffries told me when i asked if a clean continuing resolution was a red line for his members. >> a continuing resolution that is at the fiscal year 2023 levels is the only way forward because that's the status quo. >> reporter: here's the thing, andrea, time is not on speaker johnson's side. in fact, senate majority leader chuck schumer today already began work to move forward a

short-term government funding measure. this as senate republicans have privately told me they are concerned that the house has been dragging their feet on this. >> absolutely. julie tsirkin, they've got reason to be concerned. congressman upton, what are you hearing from former members? let me quote something that troy nells, a republican from texas said i don't think the lord jesus himself could manage this group, and then he said we're still dealing with the same divisions we've always had. that was one of their -- he said he's going to pray for the new speaker as he goes -- >> that does resonate with the new speaker, right? >> that would resonate with the new speaker, but it doesn't seem like prayers help so far. >> yeah, it's -- you know, this is going to be a rough week. we got a federal holiday this weekend. the federal holiday is officially tomorrow. you've got veterans day. you've got the 17th is the deadline. you know, they took all of august off. they took three weeks to figure out a speaker. you still got to get 60 votes in

the senate to get anything done, which is why schumer now is beginning to move forward and likely to get 60 votes, i think on a fiscal year '23 freeze, which, frankly, was pretty much what the debt ceiling agreement was last june that passed with a bipartisan vote, but because it was bipartisan, that was the trigger that ejected speaker mccarthy from speakership. >> and what some of the -- you can call them the rebels in the republican group are calling for are deep cuts in each of these domestic programs. >> that's right. so literally -- >> what was agreed to by all four sides. >> you're right. $100 billion less than the agreement from last june, which is in essence a freeze, and as a consequence, even among republicans -- and they pulled the plug today on one of the appropriation bills. they didn't have the votes to pass it, so five bills, five of the 12 bills they can't get the votes that pass to even send them to conference with the

senate, which would never get 60 votes on any of these bills, labor hhs with deep cuts to the nih, transportation, number of, you know, amtrak, they're talking about a $16 billion cut. northeast corridor folks, republicans saying we're not going to vote for that. so they pulled the bill. so meanwhile, we're now into the last week because it starts next monday when the congress comes back, but they have until friday. they got to have a bill that goes back and forth. it's got to get 60 votes. who knows how this is going to end next week. >> the white house has a plan to shorten the meeting and they've already moved it up. at least they did that a couple of months ago. the meeting in san francisco next week, it's a big summit. the president may have to come back early. he's going to front end. >> he's got a phone. >> importantly, it's the first face-to-face with president xi, so that has been moved up to be, you know, one after the other. >> there's going to be a lot of negotiation next week as they try to get this thing done to avoid a shutdown. meanwhile, you got all of these federal employees, here you go

again, very similar to what we had back in september, who's essential, who's not? you still have car payments, you still have mortgages, all those things to pay, passports, travel, fewer, you know, folks working whether it be tsa or other places, and, frankly, i think a lot of federal trials actually stop because you've got -- not everyone at the courthouse is essential. >> i know how much you miss being in congress, fred, but you're essential to us and always will be. thank you very much for closing it out with us today. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." julie tsirkin, thank you as well. follow us on social media. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. four hours, that's the window of time that could be the difference ben