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right now on "ana cabrera reports," tens of thousands preparing to march in washington. the massive rally at the national mall to condemn a global rise in anti-semitism. we're live in the nation's capital where security is high ahead of this event. the world health organization says gaza's al shifa hospital is now nearly a cemetery. more on the efforts to evacuate patients, including babies, as fighting intensifies. also ahead, an inside look at president trump's efforts to stay in the white house. the damning video showing testimony of former trump allies and lawyers who pleaded guilty in the fulton county election case. and new comments from the new house speaker this morning as he faces increasing pressure to avert a government shutdown in just days. does his plan have any hope of succeeding? thanks so much for joining
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us. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with the breaking news in washington where tens of thousands are beginning to gather for a massive march for israel rally. this is on the national mall. and this is all to condemn a rise in anti-semitism. security is very high in d.c. today, the department of homeland security, in fact, designated the rally a level one security event, one of the highest ratings for risk. let's bring in nbc news correspondent jesse kirsch at that rally. people from all across the country are heading there to washington. what are you hearing about why they felt it was important to be there? >> reporter: yeah, ana, what you're seeing right now is just some of the people, part of a large contingent from cleveland, ohio. and that surrounding community. they bused overnight, left around 1:00 in the morning. we saw them rolling up here in washington earlier this morning, around a six-hour drive that these people were on and now they're on a roughly two-mile march up the national mall toward the u.s. capitol where
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this rally is expected to begin. about three hours from now is the official start time. but already we're seeing people pouring in to washington, d.c., here to speak out in support of israel and against anti-semitism. we have been talking with people as they have come on the ground. here is part of what we heard so far. >> if it wasn't for israel, we would not be safe in the world today. we are proud to be jews. we bring a lot to the world. the world brings a lot to us. this cannot happen again. >> i want them to see that israel matters and that this isn't just something that is going on. it is something that we need to fix. >> i think that the show of support we'll see here today on the mall will be heart warming and hopefully show support to jews around the world to let them know they're not alone. >> reporter: this and first woman we heard from in that mix of sound right there, ana, was a woman named heady millborn, a
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daughter to holocaust survivors. she said if her parents were still alive and would have seen what is unfolding, it would have killed them. it speaks to, for people, holocaust survivors, families, and others that the link between judaism and israel is inextricable, not a universal opinion, but that is something we're hearing from some of the people here. this is as much for some people about speaking out against anti-semitism, a concern for quite a while, but certainly been more of a concern in the last month or so, you talk about the security concerns, there also is that, that spike in anti-semitic incidents we have been seeing and the anti-defamation league put out new numbers saying they have seen in the last month, so from the month following hamas' attack on israel, october 7th, compared to the same time frame last year, the adl says there was a more than 300% spike in anti-semitic incidents. there is increased concern around threats to arab-american
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and muslim american communities as well. we're expected to see tens of thousands of people voicing their opinions today. >> jesse kirsch for us from the nation's capital, thank you. let's bring in the president and ceo of the group organizing this rally, eric. what message do you hope people here in the u.s. and all around the world take away from today's event there in washington? >> well, three things, first, we're here on the nation's capitol because we know that the overwhelming majority of americans support the efforts by israel to eradicate this terrorist threat. a new poll this morning said 82% support this important effort and we need the public policymakers in washington to hear that overwhelming message. number two, we have to remember that there are 240 hostages being held hostage in gaza, not just israelis, but from other
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nations. we need to keep them in front of the world. they need -- they need to be released immediately. and finally, we want people to know that this rise of anti-semitism that you're reporting on, that is accurate, it will not intimidate us. they're trying to intimidate us on college campuses, and in our places of worship, and our communities, and we will not let it happen. we will stand in the most visible place in our country on the national mall in front of the capitol and we'll say this is not what america is about, and this is why we stand here today. >> as we mentioned, people are taking flights, they're taking buses from all across the country to attend today's event. tens of thousands expected to be there. what is your reaction to that overwhelming response? >> well, you said it, it is overwhelming. we know that the jewish community across america and all americans who understand that israel's war against hamas is no different than america's war against al qaeda or isis, that
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we're all in this same war against terrorism. they want to be heard. they want to stand up and they want to stand together and say we're not afraid, we're not going to be intimidated and so this overwhelming response is just confirming what we know, that the vast majority of americans understand how vital this fight is to america, to israel and to the world. >> i do want to reiterate the information we got from jesse about the rise in anti-semitism because it is so stark. according to the anti-defamation league, harassment, vandalism and assaults grew nearly 400% since the october 7th attacks on israel. what more needs to be done to combat that rise? >> well, every community has to organize, not just the jewish community. every community. the civic and business leaders of all of our communities have to say this is not who we are and it will not be tolerated. we have to prosecute the
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violators and we have to be clear on our college campuses, especially that we will not allow any student to be intimidated for who they are or what they believe. but we also have to stand together as a nation, as a community, and that's why today is so important. because being on the national mall is the moment where we say this is the most visible place we can be, and we will not be intimidated. we will worship where we choose and organize where we need to be. >> i hear your message about not being intimidated and how important that is today to be there, to show that specifically. we mentioned the upgraded security for this event. do you have any concerns about safety today? >> you know, we're so grateful for the efforts of all the law enforcement agencies, the federal law enforcement agencies and the local law enforcement agencies, they're taking such good precautions, because
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ultimately it is a fundamental responsibility of government to make sure that any citizen can come and express their -- themselves and exercise their democratic rights on the national mall and the government is doing that. and we appreciate it. and we feel safe. thanks to their efforts. >> eric fingerhut, thank you so much for joining us. hope today's event goes really well for you. and now, to breaking news out of gaza this morning, where israeli air strikes once again pummeled the jabalia refugee camp in northern gaza. the intense fighting in that area also continues to pose growing danger to hospitals, with evacuations now nearly impossible. and at ma main al shifa hospital, it is now nearly a cemetery, according to the world health organization. president biden urging more to be done to protect gaza's hospitals. >> it is my hope and expectation that there will be less
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intrusive action at the hospital. the hospital must be protected. >> joining us now from tel aviv is nbc's josh lederman. what is the latest on the al shifa hospital? >> reporter: the w.h.o. says it is nearly a cemetery and today it has become literally a cemetery. right now, medical officials at the largest hospital in gaza are in the process of burying bodies on the site of the hospital. a medical authority saying there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 bodies that have been amassing, due to the violence at that hospital in recent days. they have been struggling to find a period of time when they can safely exit the building of the hospital to dig a hole in the ground to bury these bodies before they further deteriorate. with one medical official there telling us that about 100 of the medical staff there ran out of food last night. so the situation is extremely dire as there are urgent efforts now to try to evacuate some of the newborn babies there.
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many of whom need incubators who no longer have electricity because the generators have run out. israel said it is willing to provide mobile incubators to be used to evacuate those patients, but according to the red cross, as of now, no deal has been worked out to actually facilitate that. and so for the patients that are stuck there, it is a very precarious situation. >> we hear that, when we see these pictures, it spurs a lot of emotion, clearly. president biden has been facing criticism from within his party from the u.s. administration in fact about the u.s. response to this war. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yeah, ana, it is images like the ones we have been showing that are prompting some 400 members of the biden administration to sign an open letter calling on president biden to demand a cease-fire from israel. these represent workers from across about 40 government agencies including the national security agencies, and they feel
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uncomfortable, according to their letter, signed anonymously, with the failure of the administration to say they want to see a stop in the fighting, because, remember, the biden administration has increasingly said too many palestinians are dying, they want israel to protect civilian lives, but the biden administration has noticeably stopped short of doing what france, many arab nations and others are doing, in saying it is time for a cease-fire, ana. >> okay, josh lederman. i appreciate that. thank you so much. for more on all of this, we're joined by mark regev, senior adviser to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and former ambassador to the united kingdom. i'm told we just lost his signal because of an air warning there in israel. we'll work to get him back. for now, let's take a quick break. we're back in 60 seconds with a new movement on capitol hill to avoid a government shutdown, three days from now. could democrats be key to getting the gop speaker's plan over the finish line? plus, bombshell snippets of
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confidential interviews with trump lawyers who have taken plea deals in the fulton county election interference case. what they could mean for donald trump's defense. and new inflation data out this morning. what it can mean for your holiday shopping. and later, the supreme court unveils its first ever code of ethics. is there any way to enforce it? t ♪ my name is josh sanabria and i am the owner at isla veterinary boutique hospital. i was 5...6 years of age and i knew i was going to be a vet.
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bill, meaning johnson may have to rely on democrats to get it passed. but this morning, johnson offered something else to some of those members, a full throated endorsement of donald trump. >> i'm all in for president trump. i expect him to be our nominee, yeah. he's going to win it. we have to make biden a one-term president. we have to do that. >> ali vitali is joining us now from the hill. johnson endorsing president trump today as he tries to keep his party united. what kind of opposition is johnson up against here and could he face the same kind of backlash and the same fate as kevin mccarthy? >> reporter: i think endorsing the former president is probably the easiest thing that speaker johnson will do this week, politically. it is also striking because as i look at that room there, you got chairman mccall briefing the press ahead of speaker johnson, who is going to be taking some questions in the next few minutes. i'll keep an eye on the corner
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of the screen. for johnson, he's able to do a lot of things right now that the man who preceded him kevin mccarthy was not able to do or was punished for doing. on the trump front, for example, the idea that mccarthy had to dance around whether or not he was going to endorse trump was an active question here on capitol hill. johnson, of course, this morning on our sister station cnbc saying he will endorse trump because he seems like he's the nominee of the party. the next likely nominee of the party. on the shutdown, it is the same kind of thing we're seeing, ana. the idea that johnson is putting forward a clean continuing resolution, the only real difference is that instead of it having one end date and being one sweeping kicking of the can, they're doing it in two steps, a january 19th deadline and then a february 2nd deadline. but really i think what is striking is the way that people within the party, even those who are not going to vote for this plan are talking about it in relation to the new speaker. listen. >> here's what i said about speaker johnson. he did not set the table.
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he did not cause the situation that has come to pass. we have to get through it. but we need something better than this. >> the reason why speaker johnson finds himself in the position he's in is because of nine months of failure under speaker mccarthy. >> reporter: look, both of those lawmakers there are going to be voting against the continuing resolution that will come to the house floor later this afternoon. they're doing it by a two-thirds majority vote as opposed to a simple majority vote because they're doing it as a thing called a suspension, which effectively changes the rules but basically allows them to move forward with it in a fashion they otherwise wouldn't have been able to. they're going to need democrats for that. you can't get to two-thirds in this body without doing it in bipartisan fashion. from my understanding of talking to democrats, leadership at this point, anyway, is not whipping against it and frankly why would they? no one wants a shutdown right now. that's widely agreed upon. in the way that republicans are doing this is kind of inoffensive at best to democrats who see no cuts, no poison pill and no reason to extend this,
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especially not over the holidays. >> would just be kicking down the road once again. ali vitali, thanks for the update. i want to turn back to the israel-hamas war. you may have heard the air raid sirens in the background earlier. we have been able to re-establish connection with mark regev, senior adviser to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and former israeli ambassador to the united kingdom. thank you so much for coming back with us. i know you had to seek shelter. we want to make sure you stay safe, for sure. ambassador, president biden is saying the hospitals must be protected in gaza. we have this reporting from the world health organization that says that the main hospital is no longer functioning, they're saying it is nearly a cemetery right now because it doesn't have power. three babies have died. one doctor telling us they expect many more babies to die because they don't have water to prepare milk, they have no electricity to keep them warm, they don't have staff to care for them. can you tell us what steps israel is taking right now to help the situation inside the
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hospitals? >> we proposed a number of steps because obviously we don't see patients in the hospital and definitely don't see babies as our enemy on the country. we want to facilitate their welfare. and we have taken a number of steps. first and foremost we have offered to help in the evacuation of all the patients in the hospital, including the babies. we got together incubators so the babies who need incubators can use the incubators when they're evacuated. we also supplied fuel for the hospital generators, specifically enough fuel for the generator that gives the electricity for the incubators because, of course, no one wants to see pictures of these babies, we don't want to see them suffer the way they have been. but to be frank, hamas is not interested in finding solutions. hamas has torpedoed every humanitarian solution we put on the table. it is clear they want those pictures of suffering babies, they want those pictures because they think that's a way to put pressure on israel for a cease-fire. from their point of view, they're being logical. they want that cease-fire
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because we're hitting them hard. >> so what you're doing, you mentioned sending the incubators as well as helping with evacuations of some patients, but my understanding is that there is fighting all around the hospital, making evacuations nearly impossible. and incubators don't work if there is no electricity. we're hearing from doctors that the fuel that you say was provided which i believe the idf said was 300 liters of fuel left in a spot for hospital workers to obtain, we're hearing from the hospital they need about 500 liters per hour in order to keep things up and running. >> what we have done is we have provided fuel for the hospital, and hamas has forbidden the hospital staff to take it. it has to be remembered, this is gaza, this is a despotic regime run by hamas. the hospital chief is a hamas appointee. and they cannot do anything or say anything that is not in accordance with what hamas wants. we moved the fuel, i think
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something like 200 yards from the hospital and we said come and pick it up. and they refused to do so and they come with all these excuses. but the fuel is there for them to take for the generators. it is the same with the evacuation. we're willing to facilitate evacuation. when they say they're shooting, it means hamas is shooting. they don't want to allow an evacuation. once again, there is no reason for this suffering. this is only happening because this is a hamas manufactured crisis, they want the crisis for the pressure on israel to cease the operation. i'm old enough to remember when saddam hussein and iraq under the clinton administration, he would take journalists into iraqi hospitals and he would tell everyone that president bill clinton and secretary of state madeleine albright are murdering iraq's children through the sanctions. it is the same playbook. this is a dictator, an extremist group, hamas, telling the world, oh, look at the terrible israelis, what they're doing, no, this is being done by hamas who first and foremost set up a military facilities, their
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bases, their tunnels, their rocket launching sites underneath the hospital, a subterranean terror network. and they're the ones who have endangered the hospital while we're doing our best to try to safeguard the people in the hospital. >> if that's the case, can hamas be eliminated if those hospitals aren't completely evacuated? >> the answer is yes. we are eliminating hamas. what we're doing is our soldiers are on the ground, acting in a very, very surgical way, trying to be as pinpointed as they can, microtargeting hamas. it is difficult, but not impossible. of course we would prefer that everyone could be evacuated. that would save lives. but hamas is preventing that from happening, they want those hospital patients, including the babies, as human shields for their terror machine. >> the idf says there is evidence some hostages were taken to a different hospital after october 7th. what kind of evidence is there and what more can you share now about the current state of hostage negotiations?
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>> so, it is clear, yesterday the idf spokesman took american journalists to the area around the hospital and showed clear evidence that hostages were taken there. there was also initial reports, i can't confirm them yet, that also hostages were taken to the area of the al shifa hospital. >> what is the evidence, though? what is the evidence? >> sorry, i can't hear. >> just wanted -- we mentioned -- you mentioned the same thing, that the reports are there is evidence that that's where hostages were taken, but what is the evidence that that's where they are or that's where they were? >> the evidence we saw yesterday was clear, there was a baby's bottle, evidence of holding hostages at the hospital and the truth is hamas doesn't let you see the evidence normally. only now the israeli soldiers entered some of the positions can we bring the camera in and put light in a dark room, so to speak. it will be exactly the same in al shifa hospital. when this is over, we will show
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the whole world, we will invite msnbc's cameras in there as well to show you what hamas was doing under the hospital and, you know, ana, if i can be frank, if this is a secret, it is a well kept secret, because all the people of gaza city, they know full well that what hamas does under the ground, under the hospital. it is not a secret. people know this. it is common knowledge. they can say so, publicly, when they speak to westerners, when they speak to americans, that's clear also. they will face hamas' very violent retribution if they speak out of turn, if they say anything against hamas to international media. >> ambassador mark regev, really appreciate your time. thank you for joining us. up next on "ana cabrera reports," what trump allies who took plea deals in the fulton county election case told prosecutors on camera about donald trump. plus, the high stakes for the in person meeting between china's leader and president biden. the complicated optics of their sit-down tomorrow. d opcsti of t sit-down tomorrow.
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breaking news. right to capitol hill and the house speaker talking about avoiding a government shutdown. let's listen. >> -- i would like to put policy writers on this. but when we have a three-vote majority, as we do, right now, we don't have the votes to be able to advance that right now. what we need to do is avoid the government shutdown. why? that would unduly harm the american people. troops wouldn't be paid. we know all the effects of that. we have to avoid na and we have a responsibility to do that. this allows as the majority leader said, this is allows us as conservatives to go into the next fight on the next stages of this to talk about real border changes, policies at the border to close the southern border, get it under control, to talk about the oversight that is necessary on additional ukraine aid, to get israel done if they don't do it as we begged them to do, all these other matters in the supplemental, that puts us in policy discussion and we'll have stringent fights on
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principle and philosophy and cuts as well. >> a number of republicans are supporting -- you obviously heard concerns from the some that are not. what did you tell those members who call your plan a mistake, who say it is a surrender? >> we're not surrendering. we're fighting. you have to be wise about choosing the fights. you got to fight fights you can win and we're going to. you're going see this house majority stand together on our principle and we're going to do that. but the shutdown would occur on november 17th. look, it took decades to get into this mess, right? i've been at the job less than three weeks, right. i can't change -- i can't turn an aircraft carrier overnight. but this was a very important first step to get us to the next stage so we can change how washington works and i think the latter cr, the two-step cr, however you describe it, is an important part of that. it changes the way things are done. >> -- you're extending government funding, democrats --
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he lost his job over this. are you concerned at all that this could make your speakership any less secure? >> i'm not concerned about it at all. kevin should take no blame for that. kevin was in a difficult situation when that happened. this is a different situation. the innovation we created, this new vehicle that the democrats initially said was so frightening actually turns out to be something that will change the wait we do this. this is a very different situation. we're taking this into the new year to finish the process, and get back to the original way this is supposed to work. and, by the way, the house republican conference is committed to never being in the situation again. i'm done with short-term crs. we're resolved. what that means is you're going to see in the beginning of this next year, we'll be walking and chewing gum at the same time, we're going to get the appropriations process running on time, as it is supposed to be under law. the budget control act of 1974 has very specific provisions in there on how this is to be done. congress hasn't done that for as long as we can remember. we're going to get back to that, that's good stewardship, the american people deserve it and the debt situation we find ourselves in necessitates that.
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let me go over here and i'll go back and forth. >> how are you feeling about the reality like you mentioned that you have -- you are having to work with democrats, you have to pass something that -- how are you feeling about that? >> getting us beyond a shutdown and making sure government stays in operation is a matter of conscience for all of us. we owe that to the american people. i believe that we can fight on principle, and do these things simultaneously. when you have a small majority, it requires some things are going to have to be bipartisan. but i think these are issues that every member of congress should agree on. we are on an unsustainable track with our debt. there is no two ways about it. i think everybody recognizes that we got to get down to the matter of the heart of this to change the way we do business. we have an important role to play in the world, but we have to take care of our own house first and these things must be done simultaneously and needed to start a generation ago. it hasn't. we're on the job now. we're going to make it happen. >> last question. >> on the cr, what -- this whole
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congress has been a struggle to pass conservative-led appropriation bills. what gives you confidence you can pass appropriation bills in this time frame that are going to be conference? democrats come over and help out, but are you confident you can even pass these appropriations bills on a proper deadline? >> part of the reason i'm confident about this is i've been drinking from niagara falls for last three weeks. this will allow everybody to go home for a couple of days for thanksgiving, everybody cool off. members have been here for -- as leader scalise said, for ten weeks, this place is a pressure cooker. i think everybody can go home, we can come back, reset, get our group together, we're going to map out that plan to fight for the principles, and we have some great plans in the playbook already. i look forward to rolling that out. we got to go. thank you for your time. >> okay, that was house speaker mike johnson, addressing the plan that he has proposed to keep the government funded because the government shutdown will happen otherwise as soon as this week, in just three days. i want to bring back ali vitali
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from capitol hill. he says, ali, we're not surrendering, we're fighting, but you have to be wise about choosing fights you can win. your takeaway from what we just heard. >> reporter: i think the most important thing i heard is what the speaker said at the end there, that this place is a pressure cooker, and certainly over the last few weeks members have been working for weeks on end in a high stress environment. now, for those of us who go to work every day of every week, we're not used to having recesses carefully inserted to break up our work schedule, but, of course, this is a building that very much operates on session weeks and out of session weeks and they have not had any recess weeks because of the speaker battle that stemmed from the last time they were trying to avoid a government shutdown. an you see o the screen why e, they'recrambling to get this done, after theyvo a shutdown, they're out ofown for a week for tnksgiving recess. ny i've spoken to are quite eager to get that time at home with their families and with their constituents. they're working towards that as
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much as they're working towards avoiding a government shutdown. but the fatigue is such a factor here that i think we cannot understate and we have to underscore. the idea that these folks don't want to do this battle now, they don't want to do a government shutdown battle around the holidays that was factored into the johnson plan here. he always was going to propose something that allowed them to in his words when he was running for speaker not get jammed by the senate around the holidays, and not let themselves lose the potential leverage they would have when they come back in january after the holidays and try once again to start passing these funding bills. but i do think the other question that johnson was asked is an important one, they have been trying to pass these different spending bills in individual fashion over the course of the last several weeks and they have been failing. it is a republican majority and they can't pass their own bills, that is still going to be a problem in january. >> ali vitali, we know you'll be watching very closely. thank you. this morning, we have some new video giving us new look
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inside georgia's election interference case against donald trump. these new videos first reported by abc news and obtained by "the washington post" show georgia prosecutors questioning the four co-defendants who have now pleaded guilty in this case, including three of trump's former lawyers. nbc's garrett haake has the details. >> reporter: good morning. these proffer videos are part of the defendants' plea agreements and require true and accurate information be shared with prosecutors. and they had to be provided to attorneys of the remaining co-defendants during the discovery process. nbc news has not independently obtained these videos, but what is revealed so far shines light on what prosecutors may be dealing with in this case. this morning, new revelations in the 2020 election interference case. >> his instinct was he had won. >> pardon my french, but i've been [ bleep ] this whole thing. >> reporter: a series of taped interviews of those who accepted plea deals first reported by abc
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news and published by "the washington post." >> he said to me in an excited tone, we don't care and we're not going to leave. >> reporter: in her session with georgia prosecutors, jena el ellis detailing to prosecutors in alleged conversation with top trump aide dan scavino at a us who christmas party. >> he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances, we are just going to stay in power. and i said to him, well, it doesn't quite work that way, you realize. he said, we don't care. >> reporter: nbc news reached out to an attorney for scavino but has not heard back. in an interview that lasted nearly three hours, ex-trump lawyer sidney powell positioning herself to prosecutors as one who frequently communicated with the former president. >> on the 18th, the only real justification that he's giving you to why he's not bowing out is that his instincts tell him he won? >> that would be evidence that i've shown. >> reporter: powell testifying trump had been repeatedly told he had lost the election.
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but relied on his instincts and allegedly leaned on her for advice according to powell, though she acknowledged she never practiced election law. >> he never told you, like, this crazy stuff, this information? >> no. >> reporter: in a statement, trump's lead georgia attorney slamming, quote, any purported private conversation as meaningless, writing in part, if this is the nonsense line of inquiry being pursued and this is the type of bogus ridiculous evidence d.a. willis intends to rely upon, it is one more reason this political travesty of a case must be dismissed. during his interview with prosecutors, co-defendant kenneth chesebro also testified that trump was aware of the so-called fake electors scheme. according to "the washington post," during an unreported white house meeting, he offered advice on assembling alternate slates of electors in key battlegrounds to cast ballots for trump in states that joe biden actually won during the 2020 election. nbc news has reached out to attorneys for chesebro, ellis, powell and scott hall, but we
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have not yet heard back. former president trump and the other 14 co-defendants in this case have, of course, pled not guilty. ana? >> garrett haake, thank you. let's bring in former federal prosecutor paul butler. paul, garrett laid it out there, a lot there, does any of this offer a smoking gun against trump? >> there is a lot of really incriminating evidence. remember, these defendants, if they had been convicted at trial were facing up to 20 years in georgia state prison. d.a. willis offered them probation in exchange for their full true testimony and now we see why they got such great deals. their testimony about the fake electors plot, it looked like some of the remaining 15 defendants and that could well cause some of them to plead guilty. d.a. willis has prosecuted enough of these racketeering cases that we know her modus operandi. she extracts guilty pleas out of many of the co-conspirators and
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when it is time for trial, it is usually just the big fish that are left. so donald trump is unlikely to plead guilty and certainly not before the election. but he could ultimately face a whole bunch of his co-defendants testifying against him. >> so, sidney powell appeared to admit ise videos she was giving trump reasons that she personally giving trump reason to believe there was fraud that could change election results and sheaid she believes trump really thought there was fraud. does that help trump's defense? >> it does. but sidney powell also testified that trump went to her for advice, because all of the other lawyers, especially the government lawyers, were telling him that he lost the election. and her statement, powell says she knows nothing about election law. so, it is true that some of her testimony might be helpful to
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the president's defense, but most of it is going to send him to jail if he's convicted in georgia. >> i want to ask you about the new york civil fraud trial, which we have been monday terre monitoring very closely here this morning. trump reposted a statement on social media calling for a citizen's arrest of the new york attorney general and the judge in this case. he's already under a gag order. this seems to go further than criticism. how do you expect the judge to address? >> the gag order doesn't apply to the judge. it only applies to the judge's staff. so, think that the judge will do what he's continuing to do. he's already found the trump organization and the defendants liable for fraud. so, really he's just trying to figure out now how badly they lost, how close to the $300 million that the new york attorney general is seeking that he has to pay. so, again, this is more inflammatory rhetoric from trump
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and his supporters. the judge is going to focus on the issues in this trial. >> and meantime, the defense continues to call witnesses to present its case before the end of this trial. paul butler, thank you very much, as always. nice to see you. up next on "ana cabrera reports," it is not just temperatures that cooled last month. we're breaking down the new inflation report that just came out this morning. what it could mean for your budget with the holidays on the horizon. plus, china's president xi en route to san francisco right now for a high stakes meeting with president biden. what is on the line. eting with president biden what is tonhe line. i'm not just accomplished. i am accomplishing. so i'm doing all i can to help lower my risk of breaking a bone. for postmenopausal women with osteoporosis at high risk for fracture taking calcium and vitamin d may not be enough. adding prolia® is proven to help strengthen bones and reduce spine fracture risk by 68% with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant,
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the big board. this sounds like all good news. >> encouraging signs on where price pressures are in this country. again, prices are still going up, but they're going up at a slower pace than we had seen in the past. 3.2%, that's how much more expensive things are in october of this year compared to october of last year. a slowdown from the 3.7% pace we saw in the september to september period. and much lower than the 9% pace we had seen in the summer of last year. where are we seeing price changes? in these categories. food, energy and shelter. food prices are still going up. these are monthly figures you're looking at. and energy prices actually went down 2.5% between september and october. owing in part due to prices at the pump declining. this is encouraging. shelter. this is the largest cost for most americans, rent and mortgages. only increasing by .3% between september and october. again, still going up, but they're going up by a slower pace compared to .6% we saw in the month prior. if we take a look at the things people are buying at the store,
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egg prices, gasoline prices, milk prices, all lower than they were this time last year. but we did see things like bread increase in prices and by the way, thanksgiving, we're looking ahead to, turkey prices are going up, up 1.2% during the month. all this is encouraging for the federal reserve, which maybe is looking at this and saying we're not at 2% inflation, which is their target, but it is certainly improving, maybe that puts them on pause for those interest rate hikes going forward. >> how about some deflation there that you're showing on the food front? that's good news. i hope my grocer gets the message. i don't see prices dropping yet. thank you, brian. all right. up next on "ana cabrera reports," can a meeting between china's leader and president biden thaw relations? the stakes of their face to face tomorrow. plus, the supreme court's historic move to implement a code of ethics as the justices look to silence criticism of the court. but does it have any teeth? haveh ( ♪♪ ) rsv is in for a surprise.
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tensions in the u.s.-china relationship. xi has not visited the u.s. since he met with then president trump at mar-a-lago back in 2017. joining us now from san francisco is nbc's janis mackey frayer. a quick chance at u.s. china relations since biden took office shows how fraught this relationship has become. what are the stakes of this meeting between biden and xi? >> reporter: ana, there are no great expectations out of this meeting between president biden and president xi beyond the key fact that they're beyond the ket that they are actually meeting. it will be the optics of seeing the two leaders shake hands to tell agraph the message they are at least talking again. it has been a year, and what a year it has been since the spy
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balloon crisis, and the controversial visit by nancy pelosi to taiwan, and the biden administration's tech exports with china, and it's the optics of seeing the two leaders together to show the u.s.-china relationship is coming off these historic lows and getting to a point where there's stability in the relationship. there could be some announcements on a joint task force to address fentanyl precursors, and diplomatically there's not expected to be a huge deliverable beyond the fact that the meeting is going to happen. >> we have a report on security measures that every aspect to xi's visit to san francisco has
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been highly choreographed. >> reporter: nobody is confirming where the summit is going to happen tomorrow. we are 24 hours away, and there's still not clarity on where this meeting will take place. it speaks to the extent both sides are going to create the optics that will be comfortable to each side. chinese are known for every detail from people lining the streets with flags to what flowers will be at the venue what xi jinping will be visiting. all of the details have been painstaking, and the information has been slow to come. it has only been within the last couple of hours that xi jinping is in the air having left beijing and on his way to san francisco. the timing of his arrival, it's
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no coincidence he will be arriving shortly after president biden. >> thank you. a visit that has the world's attention, this meeting happening tomorrow. we will be all over it. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," the supreme court code of ethics. what happens if one breaks the rules? one breaks the rules? kisqali is a pill that, when taken with an aromatase inhibitor is the only treatment of its kind shown to both help people live longer and improve or preserve quality of life. because you shouldn't have to sacrifice one for the other. kisqali can cause lung problems, or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. avoid grapefruit during treatment. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness,
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storic move from the highest court, but one critics say doesn't go far enough. for the first time the supreme court justices have adopted a code of conduct. laura jarrett has more. >> good morning, guys. of all the things on the supreme court's to-do list, they struck a code and they said it should clear up the misunderstanding of how they govern themselves. a formal code of conduct in place after a steady drip of stories about some of the justice's trips and other perks. this document now lays out how they should avoid the appearance of impropriety, and the existing rules around gifts.
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>> what we could do is just adapt the code of conduct that the other court systems have. i think it would be a good thing for the court to do that. >> public pressure to do something has been mounting in recent months after reporting about justice clarence thomas in particular, and years worth of unreported luxury vacations paid for by a top conservative mega donor, something thomas said he didn't think he needed to report at the time, but has updated his disclosure forms since. >> this is not just a problem that is besetting conservatives. >> this new ethics code still leaves much up to the justice's discretion. >> it remains to be seen if they are going take it seriously or to get everybody off their backs, but it's a good step.
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>> but not enough says a top democrat on capitol hill still pushing for reforms. >> it may fall short of federal judges have. >> the bottom line, it's not exactly clear how these rules would be enforced and who would enforce them, so the justices still operating under an honor system. thank you. >> thank you. that does it for us today. see you back here tomorrow same time, same place. i am. thousands of people gather for a rally in support of israel. it comes as the world health organization calls gaza's
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