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democrat on capitol hill still pushing for reforms. >> it may fall short of federal judges have. >> the bottom line, it's not exactly clear how these rules would be enforced and who would enforce them, so the justices still operating under an honor system. thank you. >> thank you. that does it for us today. see you back here tomorrow same time, same place. i am. thousands of people gather for a rally in support of israel. it comes as the world health organization calls gaza's
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largest hospital quote, nearly a cemetery with bodies piling up and unable to be buried. israeli forces releasing new video of what it claims is a hamas complex under a children's hospital. and then in a twist, several democrats may be onboard with the plan. plus, what one of trump's former lawyer's is telling prosecutors about trump's intention to stay in the white house after the 2020 election, no matter what. we begin this very busy hour with thousands gathering right now in the nation's capitol for what could be the largest pro israel rally in the u.s. since the israel-hamas war broke out last month. those gathering are looking to show support for israel while condemning the rise in anti-semitism. many travelled across the
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country to enjoy the rally today. joining us is nbc's valerie castro. they have heightened the security for today's event? >> reporter: good morning, josé. the security presence here is certainly very visible this morning. the gates opened for attendees around 10:00 this morning, and they are doing random bag checks at this hour, and they are doing metal detection and asking for wristbands, and earlier this morning roads were shutdown in the area, and it's designated a level 1 security event by the department of homeland security, and it means the u.s. national guard is here providing security in addition to metro d.c. police. josé? >> what you have heard from those in attendance today? >> reporter: as can you imagine,
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tens of thousands of people are expected here today coming from all across the country. they arrived early this morning. there's really a sense of pride and solidarity, a lot of people carrying the israeli flag and wearing it around their soldiers as they head into the event. we spoke to the director of a small contingency, and he said they are proud to be there. i asked what message he hopes this gathering sends around the country and around the world. this is what he had to say. >> i think people want to see love for humanity, and even though things are challenging for the people in gaza right now, and they are suffering there, that israel has equally taken a blow to its citizens and population, and israel needs to stand up for itself, which it's doing. we need to find eventually a peaceful resolution, because i think most people believe in a two-state resolution, and down
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the road -- not yet, but down the road, i hope we all see that. >> reporter: michael traveled with a small group, around ten people. they got up early this morning to catch a 5:00 a.m. flight, and they had a connection in atlanta and that's when they noticed many people on their flight and at the airport headed to this event to show support and solidarity. >> thank you very much. president biden has been urging israel to take a less intrusive action to protect the hospitals in gaza, and the director of the hospital tells nbc news that anybody moving inside the hospital's courtyards or around it is exposed to gunfire. an estimated 200,000 people have moved south from northern gaza on the 5th of november according to the human office of coordination of humanitarian affairs. back here at home, more than 400
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biden officials signed a petition demanding the white house demand a cease-fire. israeli forces say they have discovered a hamas command center operating out of a hospital, which doctors and hamas has denied. >> the truth is, hamas doesn't let you see the evidence normally. only now the israeli soldiers entered some of these positions and can we bring a camera in and put light in a dark room, so to speak? >> joining us, keir simmons. >> reporter: that video that you heard about there, and we will show you more of that in a moment. the palestinian hell hole, he
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described that as a stupid charade. and the hospital is the center of much focus this morning, and three senior doctors tell us they have not seen hamas in that hospital, and others say no doubt there is hamas under the hospital. overnight, israel air strikes unrelenting, and this was the refugee camp in the north, and our team in gaza documenting more children pulled from the rubble in the south. continued shelling and gunfire making evacuating many hospitals impossible, officials say. 36 premature babies are still fighting for their life, doctors tell us. israel saying they would send
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incubators. >> the hospital must be protected. >> reporter: but from a children's hospital now in israeli control, israeli's military releasing this video showing this is a hamas hideout and a place where hostages were hidden. >> this is a hospital being used. >> the 3-year-old hostage, her parents murdered by hamas, and it has been four weeks since hamas posted this video of a hostage. her mom fighting every day for her release. >> all i know is what i saw in this video. in a few days, it will be a month. >> she had three hours of surgery in gaza in a hospital. wherever she is, her mom wants
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her home. >> do you have a sense of what you want to see? >> i just want to see mia at home. i don't care how. i am only a mother who got up to this crazy situation, to this terrible, terrible situation, and all i want is to get her back. >> reporter: josé, this morning we have news of the death of a hostage. a 19-year-old israeli soldier, and the israelis say they have told her family of her death. hamas announced her death yesterday and release add video they recorded of her, a propaganda video before she died. hamas claiming in its statement that she died as a result of israeli air raids, but, of course, we have absolutely no way of proving that that's the case. it's completely unverifiable.
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josé? >> keir simmons in tel aviv. thank you very much. here at home, the house is expected to vote later today on a plan to keep the federal government funded after the deadline on friday, but the plan put forward by house speaker, mike johnson, would extend funding for certain government agencies through the 19th of january with the remaining agencies funded through the 2nd of february. several house republicans including members of the freedom caucus oppose it. a short time ago speaker johnson defended the bill calling it an innovative way to get things done. >> it will change the way we have done this. we are not going to have a massive omnibus spending bill before christmas, and that's not good stewardship and it's the reason we are in so much debt. >> with us to talk about it with us, jake sherman, founder of
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punchbowl news. how can we expect things to play out today? >> we should expect republicans and democrats will vote together to pass this, because this is a clean cr, josé. there's nothing that conservatives can really clammer about in this bill. it keeps the government open. this is the same flavor of bill that, quite frankly, kevin mccarthy got booted for weeks ago. now there will be a fight in january and a fight in february. if you thought there were not enough deadlines in washington, you have two more in early january. to be honest with you, conventional wisdom would hold you should kick this down the road to not create a scene in election year, but that's not what republicans are trying to do. >> what is different with this than what happened with mccarthy? they are like -- they are baby crs, split crs, not one massive
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cr, but is that different? >> no, not functionally different. there is nothing functionally different. they argue the deadlines will avoid the year-end holiday season christmas spending bill, and that's fair enough. it's not clear to me that this will be a panacea for any policy changes republicans are seeking. mike johnson is in the waning moments of his honeymoon phase, so he will have 170-ish republicans vote for the bill, and the democrats get nothing here besides no government shutdown. not functionally different, but a slightly different strategy and we will see how that works out in january and february. >> what do you think the senate is looking at when they see this?
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>> well, we will jam them in january and february. that's what they are looking at. they don't see it as functionally different either, which is why the democrats are willing to get this across the finish line. conservatives went on about the uniparty, and how mike johnson would break the idea that republicans and democrats work together to pass big things. the first thing mike johnson is doing, it's a uniparty of a two-party cr that will keep federal spending even and constant and will kick the can into next year. >> so it's conceivable that all of this could be done and signed by friday? >> sure. yeah, it has -- well, first of all, it kind of has to be because the government will shutdown on friday, and chuck schumer signaled he doesn't have any issues with this approach,
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and as long as they can get it over the finish line at 4:30 today, it will go to the central. we don't know, but we anticipate it will be passed. and the white house does not like the bill but has not threatened to veto, and so a shutdown could be averted until january. >> and then here is what was said about donald trump this morning. >> look, i was one of the closest allies that president trump had in congress. he had a phenomenal first term, and we brought about the greatest economic numbers in the world, and i am all in for president trump. i suspect he will be our nominee. he will win it and we have to make biden a one-term president. >> is this in any way, is the former president involved or influencing the process? >> no. i mean, i am not even sure, and
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i don't say it flippedally. he never took a huge interest in legislating when he was in the white house and he was not good at directing legislation when he was in the white house. his influence on the day-to-day machinations is pretty limited. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you. up next, we are seeing striking evidence against donald trump in his 2020 election interference case. what his former lawyers are saying about the alleged schemes to keep him in office. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're replacing me? customize and save with liberty bibberty. he doesn't even have a mustache. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ students...
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trump allies that took plea deals. former president trump lawyer, jenna ellis. >> he said, well, the boss, meaning president trump and everybody understood the boss, that's what we all called him. he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in por. i said that is not the way it works, you realize. he said we d not care. >> in a statement trump's attorney in georgia said this is, quote, one more reason that this political travesty of a case must be dismissed. joining us now, vaughn hilliard and barbara mcquade, and she's
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also a msnbc legal analyst. what else do we know about these conversations? >> these statements are regulatory, and the fact they are on camera makes it more significant. for the public at large, including the millions of trump loyalists, these were two individuals at the forefront of the so-called stop the steal effort. you have sidney powell that vowed to release the crackin, in her words, or show an orchestrated cabal to give biden the presidency. it's notable that sidney powell testified in her statements here that were with prosecutors, meant to be truthful and accurate. you heard jenna ellis say trump
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did not intend to leave the white house. and then another trump attorney, he was the orchestrater of the false elector scheme. he said he met with donald trump at the white house and advised trump about the fake slate of electors scheme. this is notable because there are questions as to the extent where donald trump was aware of the effort to send the fake slate of electors to washington, d.c. >> according to "the posts," and chesebro says trump was aware of
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the fake electors. >> yeah, i think all of this testimony tends to advance the ball on the knowledge of intent. the defense attorney's comment about diminishing this evidence reminds me of the kind of evidence you hear in a closing argument and that is to pick a piece of the evidence and say that doesn't prove the case. it's consistent with a theory that donald trump was going to overturn the election and stay in power at any cost. >> what does the fact that, let's say, it could be shown clearly that the former president trump was told over and over again that he had, indeed, lost the election, and the intent aspect of it, what kind of weight does that have? >> it can be used to prove knowledge, even if donald trump never himself said the words, i know i lost the election, a jury
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will be instructed on willness blindness, and that's that a person cannot ignore a fact that is true by burying their head in the sand, and the fact trump was told again and again could prove the willful blindness. we have to look to the totality of the circumstances. what they said, what they did, what they heard and what they knew. this testimony tends to add to that totality of the circumstances from which a jury can conclude that he either knew or was willfully blind and essentially put his hands over his ears and said, na, na, na, i can't hear you. >> meanwhile, trump lashed out
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at the judge over the case and d.a. james, and called for a citizens arrest. >> yeah, donald trump said his political enemies should be jailed, and it's important for people to understand this. this morning he reposted an individual on his truth social media platform that said, quote, i would like to see letitia james and the judge placed under a citizens arrest, and that's only if a citizen saw the felony be committed. we have seen donald trump con
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his supporters in the past, and moments in which public officials -- if you go back to 2020 -- did not stand in the way. for donald trump broadcasting to his millions of followers calling for the hope of a citizens arrest of the new york attorney general and the judge presiding over this civil lawsuit in manhattan, at a time when there has been no gag order when talking about the actual attorney general and the judge, and it's only about the staff that that gag order has been placed in the state of new york. >> thank you both so very much. up next, president biden leaving washington today for a critical meeting with china's president in california. we'll talk about what is at stake there. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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26 past the hour. president biden is heading to san francisco where he will have a high stakes meeting tomorrow with chinese leader, xi jinping. it will be the first face-to-face meeting in a year, and they are expected to discuss a host of issues including military to military communication, and just moments ago the president was asked about what he hoped to accomplish with this meeting. >> to get back on a normal
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course of corresponding, and making sure our militaries have contact with one another. we are not trying to decouple from china, but what we are trying to do is change the relationship for the better. >> janis mackey frayer joins us from san francisco. great seeing you. the last year has been a difficult one between the u.s. and china, we have the spy balloon that was shot down, and chinese fighter jets buzzing american aircraft over international waters among so many other things. what are the expectations for what could come out of this meeting? >> reporter: and the list goes on and on, josé. we have tech imports, and president biden calling xi jinping a dictator. there are a host of issues these two leaders face, so the fact
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that they are even meeting is the important part, the optics that will be telegraphed, that china and the u.s. are, in fact, talking again. the u.s. ambassador told me recently the relationship is way further ahead than it was a year ago. that said, there are not big deals that are expected to come of this summit, but we are expecting, perhaps, a presumption of military to military contact. those were cut off by china in the wake of pelosi's visit to taiwan. there could be a joint task force announced between the u.s. and china to curb the flow of fentanyl precursors from china into the u.s. via mexico.
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these two powerful leaders are again talk, and that's going to be the main takeaway. >> what is china hoping to get away from the meeting? >> reporter: well, xi jinping comes to the meeting with an economy that needs help, and the tech controls have not helped china's tech sector. the economy is trying to come out of three years of very harsh zero covid rules. youth unemployment is at such a high the government has simply stopped reporting the numbers. there are several other issues that are affecting the economy. a property crisis, and local government debt, and an aging population, and inflation. all of these issues make creating cracks in an economy that for decades has been on the rise to bring china to be the world's second largest economy. for xi jinping, there's also the
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optics that are at stake. he wants to be able to send the message back to a domestic audience that he is a respected global statesman, that he is arriving here as a guest of the u.s. president, and despite their differences, these men will be able to meet and share those differing views but still have a relationship is that worthy of a global statesmen. >> thank you so much. with us to continue our conversation is an illinois congressman, the ranking member of the committee and sits on the intelligence committee. always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. same here. >> we were just speaking with janice, and china has taken a controversial stance with the u.s. over the past year, year and a half. the spy balloons across the u.s. and latin america, they are
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setting up a listening post, apparently, and cuba, pressuring them to break with taiwan, and are these issues that should be confronted? >> absolutely. that's partly the purpose of the exchange. i think the president will bring up these issues along with others, such as what was referred to before as the opening of a military to military communications channel to de-escalate tensions in the south china strait and prevent catastrophic incidents. i also hope he will bring up human rights and the uighur genocide, and i hope he brings up kind of re-establishing people to people ties, which are frayed and have always been the cornerstone of the relationship between china and the united states. >> i am so glad you mentioned these, congressman.
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the situation of the uighurs in china, and the regime of china is a violator of human rights for everyone, but specifically how they have been targeting uighurs and the muslim community there, what they are doing in tibet. and hong kong -- why is it these issues that are so important are not getting the focus or recognition that they are really critical problems? >> i think your viewers would be so surprised to learn it has something to do with money, and the fact that when we first, in the year 2000, allowed china into the world trade organization and gave them permanent normal trade relation status, we did not link that to progress with human rights, so what they did is basically continued their crackdown on human rights and engaged in this horrific genocide involving the
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uighur and muslim people, and on top of that they continue with the cultural genocide of the tibeten people with hong kong and dissidents of all kinds. >> it's so important to bring up these issues. and the other big story we are following coming up on a month, the israel-hamas war is in its 39th day, and today there's a huge rally in support of israel, and how do you think we should be dealing with that? >> i think that we have to kind of lock arms together against the rise of anti-semitism, and also the rise of islamophobia. in the suburbs of chicago, unfortunately, a 6-year-old boy was murdered merely because he
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was muslim by a white supremacist landlord. there has been a skyrocketing of anti-semitism as well. we have to lock arms together as decent human beings regardless of where you are on the political spectrum, and say we all must hate hate, and we have to do what every it takes to prevent it from rearing its ugly head in our communities. >> why is it rearing its ugly head more and more in our communities? >> unfortunately, i think there's a latent amount of discrimination, and i think every since a certain former president came into office and started to play upon the fault lines between the people of color and of different religions and national origins, that latent discrimination came to the fore, and it materialized
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into anti-semitism and homeophobia, and discrimination against asian americans, and so i think we have to say, look, we may disagree about certain issues whether it's here or abroad, but one thing we have to come into common combat with is prejudice, bigotry and hatred of all kinds. >> congressman, i thank you for being with us. appreciate your time. >> thank you, josé. we have breaking news out of capitol hill. some tense moments involving former house speaker, kevin mccarthy, and one of the lawmakers that ousted him as speaker. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. m. we're still going for that sweet shot. and with higher stroke risk from afib
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40 past the hour. turning to breaking news out of capitol hill where we are
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learning new details about a tense moment involving congressman coverin mccarthy and one of the lawmakers that voted to oust him as speaker. joining us now, msnbc correspondent, ali vitali. >> one of our producers was downstairs after republicans met this morning, and we just wanted to talk to the congressmen, and burchett stopped to talk to us, and mccarthy walked by him and put his elbow in his back, and he realized it was mccarthy and ran down the hallway trying to catch up with mccarthy and
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asking why he did it. he called the former speaker with a security detail. he said in tennessee, we handle things face-to-face, not coming up and hitting somebody in the back. there's clearly deep wounds between mccarthy and the eight people that voted to oust him from the job that he had been working for his entire career. and one of the things that i remember here is that burchett explained a few weeks ago said that he felt mccarthy impugned his fate, and he said he was weighing his vote on whether or not to oust the speaker, and mccarthy said something that burchett considered a slight, and he never recovered from that.
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he used to call mccarthy a friend and then voted to oust him. it's a reminder that these tensions are so raw still, even as the lawmakers are trying to overcome the latest policy hurdle on avoiding a government shutdown and just trying to get home for the holidays. >> thank you very much. turning now to the state of the economy, the bureau of labor statistics said the overall consumer price index rose over 2% compared to last year, and inflation is starting to slowdown. that slowdown is due in large part to the drop in gasoline that fell 42 cents from a year ago, but food prices are on the rise, up 3% compared to last year. nbc correspondent joining us. you hit the road to hear how americans are feeling about the economy. >> you heard the numbers, but
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what does it feel like? we talk about the median income voter, and we wonder what is the most median income state in the country, and that means it would match the national median income at $69,000 a year, and that turns out it's cass county, north dakota. that's where we went. >> welcome to cass county, north dakota. home to fargo, farm life, and the occasional hollywood movie seen, and it's the city that most closely matches the national median income of $69,000 a year. >> what does the economy actually look like from here? to find out we are speaking to three different voters from three different backgrounds, including jocelyn, a mother of two that says she can see changes in the economy every time she goes to the grocery
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store. what grade would you give the economy right now? >> like a three or four out of ten. >> jocelyn moved here just under two years ago after living in hawaii. >> i was promised moving to fargo, things will be cheaper. there are days when i would go in and be, like, why are eggs $5 today? that's a lot. >> one problem katie says she doesn't have. >> we are at my dad's farm. >> this is where you get your eggs? >> correct. >> she says she's saving money any way she can. >> reporter: how many jobs are you working to make ends meet? >> i have three jobs. >> reporter: is it easier to get a job, especially when you are doing some of the gig jobs. sit easier to find a job? >> it's easier to find a job,
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but it doesn't pay me what i need to run my household. the economy is getting better, but my job is staying the same. >> reporter: it doesn't connect? >> no. >> reporter: it's a gap economists we spoke to said is understandable. >> we were seeing wage gains at a much faster clip and that's now coming down. you are not getting the same bang for your buck that you did a year ago when wages were accelerating quickly. that's also going to sort of seep into that consumer psyche even though inflation is coming down. >> a small business owner says that and inflation is something he still sees day-to-day, even though his gourmet snack company is growing. >> every ingredient we use has gone up at least 15 to 20% in
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the last year. >> reporter: does that hurt your bottom line? >> it does a little bit, but we have found ways to fill in the gaps. >> lot of the polls and even some of the people we spoke to describe a sort of pessimism when they look at the economy. do you see that or see hope? >> i may be a bit of an optimist, but i believe the economy is working as it should. >> an economy that looks very different depending on where you are coming from. we spoke with another economists out of michigan, and he said something interesting. he said when you ask people about the economy, the answer you get back is often actually more of a political measurement than a economic one, and for example, an unpopular present, they drag those opinions down when people are doing great.
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right now, josé, americans are still spending. >> yeah, what a fascinating visit that you just gave us. thanks. great seeing you. >> you, too. still ahead, people are still arriving in washington, d.c. today for a massive pro israel rally. these are live pictures and we are going to speak to a man that travelled from new york to be there today, about the horror his family experienced on the 7th of act. you are watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. s. . now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission
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president biden asked if he had a message for the hostages. >> can you address the hostages and give them a message of hope in these troubling times? >> i can. i have been talking with the people involved every single day. i believe it's going to happen. i don't want to get into it. >> what's your message for the families? >> hang in there. we're coming. >> joining us now is mosha. his brother-in-law was kidnapped by hamas. thank you for being with us. what happened to your family on the 7th of october? >> i was born and raised at the gaza border. i moved to new york in september. for my family, october 7th was hell. both my parents and my other sister experienced it. but the most tragic event
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happened to my middle sister. hamas terrorists broke into their home, tortured them, abused them, grouped them with another family whose teenage girl was executed by hamas and eventually separated my sister with her husband. we haven't heard from him since october 7th. my sister and two baby nieces survived the tragedy, were rescued before hamas could take them. but he is held hostage in the gaza strip. >> you described such horror. i'm wondering, first of all, are the children and your sister, are they -- how are they doing today? what is it that you want us to know about what today's rally is all about? >> we come from a strong family, a strong working class family. my sister is strong and has been speaking to everyone willing to
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listen for the release of her husband. but she's definitely endured significant trauma. my two baby nieces, only 2 years old and 7 months old has experienced something no child should experience with guns pointed at her face, calling for her daddy to return home every night. we are here. i'm glad to see so many people here in support of returning the hostages home. this is not an issue of being pro-israeli. thisitarian issue. civilians should not be taken from their home or tortured in their home. i'm here to call for the release of the hostages unconditionally. that's my message to everyone willing to listen, bring them home now, bring my brother-in-law home now.
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>> i thank you for being with us this morning. appreciate your time. >> thank you for your time. nancy pelosi's husband speaking publically for the first time about being beaten with a hammer by a home intruder. what he says he told the suspect who asked, where is nancy. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. there's challenges, and i love overcoming challenges.
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we turn to breaking news out of georgia. the d.a.'s office filed an emergency motion for a protective order in its election interference case in response to videos that have been leaked. joining us now is vaughn hillyard. >> this is an ongoing criminal prosecution effort here. these numerous defendants are set to take the stand. what these videos released are,
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these are the proffered videos. there are four defendants that upon entering plea agreements with georgia, they sat down and agreed to provide testimony, provide statements that were truthful and accurate. those are the videos that in the last 12 hours we have seen released, obtained by abc and "the washington post" from the likes of jenna ellis, sidney powell and kenneth chesebro. they are asking for a protective order. if they want to see any material like this, they would have to come in and watch a recording. what now we have an understanding of is that each of these defendants' attorneys were provided copies of the videos. at some point along the way, they were disseminated to media
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organizations. the district attorney's office is saying, the release of the confidential video recordings is intended to intimidate witnesses, subjecting them to harassment and threats prior to trial. for the district attorney, they do not want a situation in which there's a suggestion of any of these defendants that could lead to a motion to mistrial over any of this information getting out there. of course, part of the discovery process is allowing the defense to be able to look at all of the evidence that could be used against them in the courtroom during their trial. but clearly, this was unexpected to have these videos put out there publically. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much for that update. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," tens of thousands are rallying in

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