america, for instance. china now has a major space infrastructure that's due to double over the next several years. but beyond, that we've also talked about china's influences all around the world. i know that, right now, we are all very focused on israel, on the war in gaza, on how that may spread through the region. i have to say, there has been a lot of focus here already today, and i expect more of it on the continuing threat from china. >> okay, from one end of the valley to the other, have a good rest of your afternoon. thank you so much, courtney kube. that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports, we'll do this again tomorrow at one pm eastern. that'll be 10 am pacific, my friend yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage right now. hey, everybody, good to serve you. i'm yasmin vossoughian, the truce is over an israeli offense of his back in full

force in gaza. the israeli saying they've launched hundreds of missile attacks. hamas is reporting hundreds killed already. and bombshell new reporting nbc news in the new york times that israelis dismissed warning signs of the october 7th attacks for up to a year ahead of time. the times reported broke that story. we'll also speak with the family of a teenager taken hostage in the october 7th attacks. freed this week. in what is to come. who are following other news this hour as well, former president on the campaign trail right now and iowa after suffering a double dose of defeat to his claim that is one term presidency should be a lifetime get out of jail free card. plus, we're live in the district net representative george santos after he was officially kicked out of congress. making history with his expulsion. and we're keeping an eye on an earthquake off the coast of the philippines. that sparked a tsunami warning, the latest on what is going on. that's coming up as well.

we want to start this hour in the middle east, where prime minister bibi netanyahu is currently speaking, celebrating the release of hostages this week. even as the hype fighting picks back up in gaza. when you get right nbc news correspondent, david maria, go on the ground for us in tel aviv with more on this. david, good to talk to you. we have netanyahu speaking today. as we have these reports both from us at nbc news in from the new york times as well. that security officials raised alarm bells about this initial attack. what more can you tell us? >> yasmin, this is potentially very consequential reporting that has political reverberations inside israel. we have to consider the context of that, netanyahu himself is extremely unpopular within israel. a lot of people here, the way they talk about him, the sense is the only reason he still in power is because he's prosecuting this war. and they're kind of allowing him to stay in power until the war is over, at least progresses further. he's perpetually or risk of losing members of his coalition, which would force him to go to election.

which, at this, point based on the polling that available, he would almost certainly lose. reporting this damaging could have really serious consequences just on the makeup of the israeli government. as far as how israeli authorities have responded to this, from what i've seen, they haven't commented on the specific reporting by the times and nbc news in the past they've said that, while they acknowledge failures on october 7th, the priority right now is to continue the military offensive in gaza. and that they will investigate the failures of october 7th at a later date. he has been? >> also want to talk about what's happening on the ground, there i know the past couple of hours, israeli defense forces saying they have hit over hundred targets inside gaza. since the end of the truce with hamas. give us the latest that you've been seeing there in hearing? >> right, so, one really important factor to this, those 400 targets are all across the length and width of the gaza strip. you know, this has been happening before. but it's significant that more of the military offensive seems

to be taking place in the south. about 1.7 million people or people were displaced from the north into the south. they are now penned into the south. the israeli government says that it is not targeting civilians. and that it is giving people detailed orders to evacuate specific safe places within the southern half of the gaza strip that they can go to avoid being killed in strikes that the idf says are targeting hamas. however, what we hear from people on the ground in gaza, many of them have already been displaced once or twice prior to this. they feel like there is nowhere safe to go, and there's a lot of fear that they're essentially being permanently displaced as a result of this conflict. the gaza health ministry says that about 200 people have died since the resumption of the war. that number has climbed. they see that most of those casualties are women and children, again, the idf instance that it does not target civilians. it is targeting hamas militants and infrastructure. yasmin? >> talk to me about potential negotiations happening when it

comes to another pause or exchange of hostages. where are we on this as the fighting has resumed? at this moment, yasmin, it does not look good israel has a team of negotiators in doha it pulled them out today. hamas is now saying that they will not resume negotiations until israel stops its attack on gaza. which, from what we're hearing from israeli officials is not likely to happen at this point both hamas and israel do not seem like they are willing to go to the table to continue or begin new negotiations there still pressure from other diplomatic actors, particularly united states, the white house says they're still eight americans captive in gaza. the u.s. is putting pressure on them to try to get negotiations to resume. with the qataris, the egyptians, but as of right now, it does not look like we are likely to see a new cease-fire. or even new round of negotiation, at least not imminently yasmin david by the

way we're gonna more of the new reporting on warnings about the hamas attack ignored by as we're coming up with the new piece in the new york tis i want to turn to the house which now has one less member. after george santos was expelled in an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote, santos trying to take some other members of congress down with him. tweeting that he will file ethics reports against former house republicans, want to bring in nbc's erin gilchrist from the white house. in -- new york, part of what was santos's district. aaron, start us off, if you will take us through yesterday's events. and what santos is threatening to do now? yasmin, back up just a little bit here. the santos expulsion really picked up steam with that house ethics committee report that found that he appeared to have broken several federal laws in his 2022 campaign. members of the house were waiting for that report, many of them were before deciding where exactly they stood on whether santos should stay in congress. he saw the writing on the wall as yesterday's vote made its way to the floor, in the, and we know that more than two

thirds of the members the proportion need to expel of congressman decided that santos had to go. in pretty dramatic fashion, santos throughout his winter coat, he walked off the floor, as the vote was coming to a close there, 311 members voted in favor of his removal his time in office and it immediately there. his name was removed from his office door at the capitol the locks were changed their former congressman, as you noted, took to twitter pretty quickly yesterday saying that he planned to file ethics complaints against former congressman from his area. nick lalota, mike lawler nicole melia taxis, all of new york and then rob mendez of new jersey as well. we've heard from two of their offices so far calling santos a serial liar. a con man. essentially saying that they are not gonna waste their time worrying about george santos as they continue to do their work now. officially, yasmin, we should know that new york governor kathy hochul, has to schedule a special election at this point. it looks like santos's staff

will stay in place. they'll be managed by the house clerk through that office in the house as we wait to see exactly what happens next from new york's third district. >> erin giokos from the white house, thank, you erin. greg, you are there, the district that santos represented. we just heard from aaron as to the special election that will be held by new york's governor. nonetheless, how are folks reacting? >> good afternoon, yasmin. the way the people district are we acting, they are just really looking for a new set of changes. and a new voice they want somebody who's going to be very transparent. of course, harkening back to the fact that, with george santos, there wasn't a lot of transparency with some of the allegations that were put forward. as aaron gilchrist touched on a little bit earlier, this whole process is gonna work to try to fill this vacancy, new york governor kathy hochul has ten days to file a special election that will then be 70 to 80 days after that special election, as far as figuring out when the day will be, as far as when voters will be able to

determine who they want to be able to vote for. some of the issues that we've heard from some of the folks here in this district, of what they're looking for, democrat or republican, the representation that they want, is just someone who's gonna be -- . listen to what they had to say a little bit earlier on. >> well, i was radically pleased that he was finally going to be taken out. he should've taken out a weekly. >> i thought he deserved it. at the same time, i almost feel sad for him. you know, going through what is going through. he hasn't shown any remorse at all so it's hard to feel sorry for him. >> i don't think it's a positive thing to have been for this district. it kind of has a stain on history. and it can't be erased. it's unfortunate that this is. what we're known for now. >> one of the interesting things, yasmin, i want to point out, this is a district that, although represents part of new york city here in queens where i'm standing, and also long

island, it's a district that, president biden was able to win by nearly eight points in 2020. and prior to santos, it was represented by democratic congressman, tom suozzi. even though democrats have had a history of success in this district, republicans have been able to successfully make inroads, and talking to some of the constituents here living in this district, whether it's democrat or republican, they're just looking for someone, as i mentioned a limit earlier, who's gonna be a bit transparent is gonna be a represent them in a way that they will have to worry about it yasmin? >> greg, do we know the money it's gonna cost for this upcoming race with a special election? >> we're certainly anticipating that there's going to be a beehive of activity from a financial standpoint. we know there are certain super pacs on the house side that it's gonna make it their mantra if they will their gonna do whatever it takes to be where the democrats are looking at this, potential election is that it could become a big inflection. in june --

of 2024, the math runs the house, we expect bipartisan spending on both the democratic side, and the republican side to try to get what should be a very pivotal house he. he has been? >> greg, hi greg, appreciate. coming up to 60 seconds, warning ignored. new bombshell reporting from the new york times, we just talked about this a little bit. israel had the hamas planned for the october 7th attack a year before it happened on a talk about one of the reporters that broke that story later on this hour former president doubled the feed on his claim of presidential immunity. that's coming up. that's coming up he switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪♪ (♪♪)

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from hamas militants. quote, a planned designed to start a war? they're concerned that they were dismissed by the superior according to israeli official, none of it mattered. but a bombshell report, then from the new york times saying, these warnings stretched all the way back to more than a year ago. want to bring in one of the authors of that, peace rhoden bergman. staff writer for the new york times, author of rise and kill, first the secret of history i should say of israel's targeted assassinations. thanks for joining us on this. appreciate it. i want to first talk through this immunity that were revealed in these documents with the new york times got ahold of that you reported on. and what was actually carried out on october 7th. the tactics that were carried out by hamas. >> two different timelines, narratives here. one of them is what hamas

wanted. since 2012 they started to develop a plan, a meticulous plan, to destroy and kill any soldier and any infrastructure that protects the southern front of israel. and basic plan that was later developed into the plan, this document you just described, during 2022, israel was able to obtain the last copy, the last version of that plan around 40 pages it called for the deployment of some 2000 commanders that would break the fence between gaza and israel offense that was considered to be invincible in 60 different places at the same time, israel that was aware of the the different developments of that plan, since 2012, they knew this is what hamas wants but they thought that hamas can

only deploy 70 people into platoons and only two places. the gap is inconceivable. this is why, even when having the plan, and the plan is the basic details are massive bombardment of israel with rockets, mortars and missiles to create diversion, the use of drones and paragliders to destroy the towers with the cell phone towers, the towers that carried automatic control machine guns. the communication, the lenses, the cameras, basically, creating i would say, a field fog, better field fog, that enabled hamas to crush defense and get those hundreds of teams assigned to each village and each base to infiltrate inside, go to that place, and start the

massacre and the rest of the atrocities. >> you mentionhis a little, bit i want you to drawn that a little bit more, which is how they underestimated hamas's ability to carry all of this out. i want to read a portion of the for folks to really get a sense of what i'm speaking of. underpinning all of these failures, we -- inaccurate belief that hamas lack the capability to attack and would not dare to do so. that belief was so ingrained in the israeli government, officials said, that they disregarded growing evidence to the contrary. can you talk more about this? >> when this document was obtained, it was not hidden. it was not disregarded. because it's seen as an authentic document coming from the inner circles of secret planning of hamas. it was shared with many seniors. both an intelligence, the other

military intelligence. the other intelligence agencies. but all the analysts that reviewed the plan, saw that. as a compass for the development of capability. the development of force. so hamas is here, they want to be here, here is what is needed to get to that place. but only one analysts, and you quote your report from before, we also related to this other -- my colleague, and myself, who go to the story. only one analyst in july of 2023 went against the common wisdom, against everybody, against people much senior than her. and said that this is not an imaginative plan. this is a plan not aimed for a raid on a kibbutz. it's a plan calling for war. for all out invasion.

for the ability to raid, break the fence in many, many places, and start a massacre. she alerted, unfortunately, there was a major pushback from the southern command intelligence. and it all stayed in a capsule, this debate, in a capsule that did not reach beyond the rank of colonel. the rest, of course, -- >> you also reported, and you just mentioned that, that you are unsure as to whether the prime minister was aware of these plans, along with other top political and military officials. what is the sense that you're getting in your reporting in the conversations that you have continued to have about this document, about this revelation, as to how people are now viewing prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his culpability here. this documents.

what was done with the document, the email, the encrypted the email exchange, of that i'm sure there will be taking. a significant part of the report of the investigation committee when this established. benjamin netanyahu was warned many, many times, by the chiefs of the intelligence, verbally and in four different letters throughout the last year, before october 7th, -- judicial overhaul, that he initiated, is portraying a picture of israel being weak, vulnerable, and not capable of countering an attack. the chatter that he was told, between the members of the so-called axis of resistance, iran, hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad, the chatter is that this might be a chance to attack

israel. he completely disregarded all those warnings. this is even beyond the question of whether he got this plan or didn't. but he disregarded all those specific very, very dire warnings. and in some cases, didn't even meet the officials to get the warnings. and continued this process that brought israel on the brink of collapse. >> ronen bergman for the new york times, thank you so much. appreciate it. excellent reporting. still ahead, everybody, the cousin of 16-year-old amid shiny, one of the hostages released this week, joins me with the reaction with a plan to help get him back to some normalcy, and the hopes for the remaining hostages. former president donald trump is out on the campaign trail today, after being denied two motions to dismiss the election interference case against him. up first, breaking news out of the philippines, after a 7.6 magnitude earthquake strikes in southern post. coming up next.

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we're keeping an eye on the fallout from a 7.8 magnitude earthquake that rocked the philippines just about four hours ago. the quake measured at a depth of 20 miles on the east side of the southernmost islands. at this point, no damages, casualties or tsunami have been immediately reported. we're certainly keeping an eye on that situation. we're gonna in dubai right now, hundreds of world leaders, they've come together to take new steps in the climate crisis. this planet is facing. their focus stopping the industrial release of the greenhouse gas methane. a short time ago, a coalition of 15 major gas and oil companies, pledged to shore up the release known as flaring by the end of the decade. vice president kamala harris representing the biden administration, taking it a step further, pledging billions of dollars to help turn the goal into reality. want to bring in nbc's josh -- who's in london for us, josh,

good to talk to you. talk us through why this year's summit is so focused on this greenhouse gas. >> yasmin, they call it cop 28 this year, because every year for the last 27 years, they've held one of these summits. yet, here we are, with no guarantee that we're going to be able to avert the worst effects of global warming. in fact, clear signs that some of global warming is already here to stay. with scientists just last week saying that 2023 already is going to be the hottest year ever recorded. so, those are the stakes here. there are some important things that have come out of the summit today. including on methane, as you mentioned, we heard from vice president harris. as she was addressing the conference in the absence of president biden, announcing three billion dollars the u.s. it's gonna be contributing to the green climate fund to help developing nations adapt to climate change. she also announced these new

epa regulations that are gonna really crack down on methane from the oil and gas industry in the u.s.. including trying to spot current oil and gas wells that are currently leaking methane, which is a very potent greenhouse gas. in fact, some 30 times more powerful than carbon dioxide. which is what we normay talk about with climate change. at trapping heat in the atmosphere, also an anuncement today from dozens of nations oil and gas companies, they're gonna cut their own methane emissions. as well as 22 countries, including the united states announcing, by the middle of the century, they plan to triple their use of nuclear energy, which is free of greenhouse gas emissions. of course, yasmin, these pledges are only worth something if they are lived up to. we've seen, over and over, that countries companies have made these promises to slash emissions, to donate money to help reduce climate change, and then have actually not fallen

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the former president is campaigning right now in iowa, after losing to presidential immunity arguments on friday. judge chutkan rejecting trump's motion to dismiss his criminal charges based on a claim of, quote unquote, presidential immunity. just hours after a federal appeals court ruled that the former president can be sued for inciting the insurrection, he's expected to appeal both rulings, want to bring in nbc's dasha burns, standing by for us in cedar rapids, iowa. dasha, good to talk to you. what's been the reaction so far today to these twin legal losses? >> first of, all yasmin, i'll tell you there's a pastor speaking right now behind, me giving an avocation, i'm going to speak a little bit more quietly, just out of respect here. look, we are hearing from the trump team in reaction to both of these rulings. in the case of that three judge

panel, the federal appeals court ruling spokes person calling this a limited narrow and procedural ruling. the rhetoric heightened in response to judge chutkan's ruling in that d.c. criminal case. in response to, that a spokesperson saying that radical democrats and president joe biden artrng to, quote, set dangerous precedent that would cripple future presidential administrations, and our country as a whole. and they're desperate effort to interfere in the 2024 presidential election. look, the federal appeals court ruling allows a number of pending cases to move forward. they were waiting for this ruling now they can proceed. that has a serious implications. judge chutkan's ruling, a line from her ruling really stood out to me here. she basically said that just because your former president doesn't mean that you get a, quote, lifelong get out of jail free pass, that case, he has been is a concern to the former

president, because it is the one that is most likely to really play out in terms of timing right alongside of both the primary in the general election. that case right now is set to begin on march 4th, which, of course, is the day before super tuesday, yasmin. >> we are going to allow the prayer behind you to play out dasha, i'm gonna come back to you in just a moment standby for me out to bring in joyce vance, to talk more about what we just discussing. these twin legal defeats for the former president. you just heard dasha lay it out, joyce. you posted about a possible appeal here, which we are very much expecting. writing this, ironically, the town has more to do with the time it will take courts to resolve these issues. then there's substantive merit, ex presidents cannot shield crimes forever. no man is above the law, the real question is how much time it will take scotus to say that. talk us through more of this. >> right, so, because these are constitutional rights that the president the former president

has asserted in these motions, he won't have to wait until his criminal trial concludes to take an appeal. he can take what's called an interlocutory appeal. that can involve delay. not because anyone is doing anything wrong, but simply because it takes time to complete a briefing schedule. the courts control that. and they can expedite that schedule if they choose to. dasha is right when she characterizes this civil decision in other case in the district of columbia as procedural. because the court in that case simply said trump is not entitled to have the case against him dismissed by asserting this immunity issue. but he is still free to raise it as a possible defense at trial. the point though, he does get a trial in that case. more appropriately, the plaintiffs get a trial. that's the holding that's transferable to the criminal case. trump is not entitled to dismiss the indictment. he may still be able to raise some form of an immunity

defense at trial or perhaps not depending on how that issue develops. but at this point, the job of the appellate courts is to speed this case along. so a jury can decide the innocence of trump's guilt or innocence. >> we are taking a listen to trump's attorneys yesterday, on the georgia hearing when i was on the air, they were making this argument about the timing of when the hearing would have been, the argument was being made by the former president attorneys was, essentially, listen, if you are asking the trial to play out in the midst of, it if, in fact he becomes the nominee, in the midst of him running for reelection, the president of the united states,n interference. i want to play a little bit for you of more of what those attorneys had to say and then we'll talk. >> can you imagine the notion of the republican nominee for president not being able to campaign for the presidency? because he is in, some form or fashion, -- in court defending this bill?

that would be the most effective election interference in history of the united states. >> so, then it went one step further, joyce, and they said oh, by the way, if he wins reelection he cannot be tried until he is out of office. is there any possibility here the judge in the fulton county case could actually be receptive to this? >> yes, so the judge in fulton county plays his cards remarkably close to his vest. he's always amiable towards all of the lawyers, always hears them out, and often simply looks at them when they're down and says. thank-yous doesn't really give us much indication of which way he's leaning. but he's a former federal prosecutor. he understands how these issues work. he's very capable judge even though there were some early criticism about him being relatively new to the state court bench. i think he's outlived that sort of criticism. steve saddle, on the other, santa's been doing this for a while. we tried a couple of criminal cases against each other, and

he's a canny lawyer. you know how to present the arguments, he has two on his clients behalf to the court. i don't think he gets his way here. this notion that donald trump can't ever be tried, but on the one hand, he can be tried if he's the nominee, and on the other hand, he can't be try to feed the president it really doesn't fly, it's contrary to the american notion of justice. >> we're sticking with the trump soup here, this gag order reinstated, and with that, one day later, you had the former president posting on truth social about judge engoron's wife. what do you see happening here? >> yeah, you know, the one thing these posts were not true, judge engoron's wife was not on social media doing what trump said she was doing. this is just clear targeting, and in the wake of the attack on paul pelosi, even if trump could've said before him that he didn't appreciate the consequences of his words,

there is now very clear indication of the reach of his words. of their potential to actually cause of violence to be inflicted on innocent people. this is a judge's wife, the wife of a public servant. she deserves protection, but i don't think that the judge has included her within the scope of his order. and i can understand that. that he would want to stand well back from gagging any criticism of him and by, extension of his wife, that doesn't mean that we have to remain silent. we should all be condemning trump's conduct here it's dangerous. it's violent. >> joyce vance, thank, you as always my friend. appreciate you. in illinois appellate court has decided to uphold convictions against former empire star, jesse smollett, for recording a fake hate crime back in 2019. the special prosecutor assigned to the case, telling nbc news, the court's decision is, quote, pretty much the end of the road for mr. smollett. after using his one right of appeal, and that the actors should finish out his 150-day

jail sentence. the openly gay actor files the report being attacked by two men wearing ski masks, before authorities discovered he had paid them to stage the crime. want to bring back nbc's dasha burns, standing by for us in cedar rapids iowa. it seems as if that is now added behind you we can talk a little bit more clearly, dasha, thanks for sticking with us appreciated as always. you know spoke about this yesterday. there was some sparks flying right between governor gavin gavin newsom and ron desantis, who decided to debate on fox news. you have the back story as to why it ended abruptly and some drama that was happening behind the scenes. walk us through it. >> yeah, a lot of folks saw the onscreen drama, there was a lot going on behind the scenes as well. anyone who didn't watch the debate, let me just give you a quick summary of how it finished up there. both of them seem to be having so much fun, that toward the end of the debate, they said, hey why do we keep this going for the rest of the hour, this

24 minutes left, let's keep it going, but when they came back from break, there were no candidates and hannity said they both had other commitments. what we learned from sources from the desantis campaign, in the source who wasn't affiliated with either of the debaters, is that gavin newsom's wife, jennifer civil newsom came in on to the stage and cut things off. said we're done. now, newsom's team denies that this happened, but, again we have four sources including one unaffiliated source that says that this is why the debate came to an end. newsom's team is also accusing the desantis campaign of breaking the rules on multiple occasions. by talking to his wife into his team, they also accused fox news of placing the teleprompter in a place where desantis could see hannity's questions. fox news, and desantis both deny those allegations. the point being, beyond what you saw on screen behind the scenes there was a whole lot of

back and forth, a lot of finger pointing and clearly, to individuals that were not so happy to be there together despite all of what we saw on screen and all of what they said on twitter afterwards. he has been. >> the point also being, always listen to your wife. and you know who you are, and who i'm talking to. dasha burns, thank you. appreciate it. coming up next, i'm gonna be joined by new york times columnist, charles blow, raising alarm bells that voters are not taking the threat of a trump returned to the white house seriously. up first, a hostage who turned 16 in captivity finally found free this week, gonna speak to the cousin of him about his release, and the next step for the teenager in readjusting to life. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. woo hoo! ensure max protein 30 grams protein, one gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients for immune health. (♪♪)

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a short time ago, nbc learned israel has officially withdrawn from tristan galatians with hamas in doha. overnight, israeli airstrikes intensified, targeting areas across the gaza strip. the israel defense forces confirming that it has struck over 400 targets since the truce ended five friday, it follows the collapse of a weeklong pause, in which 100 israeli foreign hostages were released in exchange for -- pastinian prisoners. the times of israel reporting, members of kibbutz berry, shouted for joy, as they watched footage of hostages from their committee returning home. among, them amid shawnee's

three grandparents, we're watching. in hugged each other's with delight when they saw their 16-year-old grandson had in fact been released. joining me now, ella shiny who is a cousin of amit thank you so much for joining us on this we appreciate it. how is your cousin doing? >> i'll be honest, i don't know much about amit's condition. i know he's pretty healthy and stable. i talk to him i think he's doing mentally worse than he's doing physically. he is a lot to, process his house was burned, friends of him, unfortunately were murdered. he just has a lot to process. i think, physically, he's okay, i know he lost weight. and that he's still in the hospital. i don't know much about his physical condition. >> when you spoke to him, of

what you can tell me, what did he share with you? >> he didn't talk really it was more my and, just in the background, he was kind of quiet. i know that he told me that, i mean, my aunt told me and he confirmed, that it was pretty hard for him to find out about what happened. it was like search -- for him to suddenly get all that information i know that he asked us to take it slowly. not tell him everything. yeah. it was hard. >> what was it like for you to hear that he was coming home? >> i was in euphoria, honestly. that was the best announcement i've ever heard. i remember also watching the live when they just arrived to israel, or from egypt, in the red cross cards, i remember watching it i was at a sushi

restaurant and couldn't stop crying. i was so excited. i couldn't wipe the smile off my face for hours, just knowing is gonna come back. we can take care of his mental in physical condition, these things can be fixed. but we were just so happy that he's alive. >> >> from what i understand, ela, you were there when amit was taken. he when he was taken hostage. >> no. i was in the same kibbutz, i was in another house. >> what was your experience in that kibbutz? what happened that day to you? >> to me, well, the terrorists did not break into my house. i remember the fear sitting in the dark, and just hearing constantly gunshots and shouting in arabic. when i was rescued, i'm not gonna elaborate here, but we've seen a lot. my family got it worse. my uncles house was burned down completely. my grandparents were shot amit

was kidnapped. luckily for us, most of us came out alive. >> how are you doing? i know you talked about how amit is worse off psychologically, likely a major uphill climb for him, i can only imagine what he's going through. how are you doing as a family, having been through this? >> i mean, we try to stay strong. i think it's impressive that most of my family came out okay. except for my dad. and i'm really proud of our family, i'm feeling like we went through it together we're gonna stay together. it's gonna keep us so strong. for the all this time, we kept fighting for amit, just we can come back and complete our family. >> ela ella shani kozin, we appreciate your family the best. we appreciate for all you've been, to thank you for lending a voice to your family and the hostages that are continuing to

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this afternoon we are remembering the life of trail blazing supreme court justice, sandra day o'connor. the first woman appointed to the highest court of the states. o'connor passed away on friday from complications from advanced mentioned respiratory illness. taking a look back at the contribution legacy evelyn once described as the conscience of the court. >> a pioneer in the law, the first woman to sit on the u.s. supreme court. sandra day o'connor knew the responsibility she held. >> it is thrilling in a way to be the first to do something. the first woman to ever stand on the court. but it is dreadful if you're the last. if i didn't do the job well, that is what would happen. >> reporter: the daughter of a cattle ranch or, o'connor grew up in arizona. a republican lawmaker and a judge before being nominated to the u.s. supreme court in 1981

after president reagan's campaign pledge to nominate a woman. >> i got on the airplane and i sat down and took a big breath and said, thank goodness i don't have to do that job. i was sure i wouldn't be asked. i just thought it was so unlikely. >> reporter: confirmed unanimously by the senate, she served on the court for 24 years holding a pivotal swing vote. >> the very heart of this country's equality of opportunity and respect for all individuals. >> reporter: sometimes she sided with conservatives, as she did in 2000 settling the presidential election in bush v. gore. of the time she was with the liberals. riding the landmark decision on using race in college admissions. one that was largely gutted just last term. as a moderate, she search for consensus on bitterly divided court, particularly on abortion rights. joining a key decision reaffirming roe v. wade in 1992. later upholding state

restrictions on abortion. >> i have to get some time to work. >> reporter: the first woman on the court, also the first mother. she had three boys with her husband john. whom she left the court to care for in 2006 when he was diagnosed with alzheimer's. later, she too was diagnosed with the disease. she also battered cancel. reflecting at one point on what that fight taught her. >> i think i learned from it to appreciate in treasure each day. you do not know how many you will be given. make those that you do have count. our thanks to laura jarrett for that report. a lot more coming up folks. you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. hey, everybody. i am yasmin vossoughian if you are just mourning. welcome if you are sticking with us, we are thankful with that. we are live on the ground of the israeli