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all they want is peace and they are time and time again attacked and attacked, and then it was the biggest horror in history since world war ii. >> if the goal is to make israel safer and to make sure the jewish people are safer in the long run, is there no other way than displacing 2 million people, and attacking refugee camps and hospitals, is that the only way to go about this strategically? >> ana, where is the world? first, we were told to get out of gaza. we did that in 2005. we told the world and we told our people, it will be the new hong kong of the middle east, and then within a year they took it over with an iran-led platform and turned it into a
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military base with 10,000 missiles on our heads in the last two decades. what exactly are we supposed to do? sit by and be killed? that's the tragedy we face. and the world has many people who financed the war machine and is playing and has danced with the devil, and they will have to look in the mirror and say to themselves, we have helped to develop an empire of monstrosity of criminals and terrorists who must be removed from our area. >> i wish we had even more time today. there are so many other topics to discuss and so many facets to the current situation and the war against hamas. thank you, mr. president, for taking the time. we appreciate it and i hope we are able to speak again soon. thank you. >> absolutely. that does it today. josé diaz-balart picks up our
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coverage right now. i am josé diaz-balart. right now israel is ordering hundreds of thousands of palestinians to evacuate. the human suffering in gaza intensifying once again. the u.n. warning an even more hellish scenario is about to unfold, and we will talk to a doctor from hospitals without borders saying the hospitals are at a breaking point then. and that on capitol hill, senator fetterman gets help from former congressman, george santos? we will explain why. breaking overnight. a house explosion outside of washington, d.c. what police were doing at the house moments before the blast. we begin this hour with the latest on the israel-hamas war.
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the israeli defense forces say israeli troops have been engaged in intense battles across gaza, including in the center of gazaa's second largest city. this comes as the world health organization in gaza says the situation is getting worse by the hour. israel keeps telling civilians to keep moving south, and civilians say there's nowhere for them to go and the area around the rafah crossing with egypt's border is overwhelmed with people. hamas continues to hold more than 130 hostages, and the state department joining in calls for an investigation into allegations hamas uses rape and sexual violence as weapons of terror, and how it may have led to the end of the recent pause. >> one of the reasons they don't want to turn women over that they have been holding hostage and the reason the pause fell
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apart, is they don't want those women to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody. >> of all the suffering, there's some hopeful news. premature babies evacuated from gaza now in egypt are getting stronger. there's one baby that appears to be making a remarkable recovery. >> the doctor takes us to see a baby known only by his mother's name. >> what happened to his eye? this is what the baby looked like when he arrived, and now growing stronger every day. >> i dream about this boy. >> you dream of this boy? >> yes. >> what do you dream? >> i dream that he is happy, this boy is happy. >> nbc's david noriega is joining us from tel aviv. thank you for being with us. what is the latest from the
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ground in gaza? >> reporter: josé, that 1.9 million people are 80% of the population of the gaza strip the u.n. says has been displaced since the beginning of the war, many were pushed from the northern half of gaza in the southern half in the earlier phases of the war prior to the truce agreement, and many of those living in the south are now being pushed further and further south, including the tens of thousands that we saw moving towards rafah in the last day. the u.n. says that that tremendous population is now being concentrated in an area one-third the size of the gaza strip. in addition to this, there are all of the additional humanitarian factors we are hearing about, hospitals near collapse, and people not having access to clean water or food or shelter, and the spread of the
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diseases we are hearing from the red cross and the world health organization. the idf says these evacuation orders are an example where they have been troughing leaflets, and they are telling about places they could go where they are safe. the shelters are overwhelmed and what we are hearing from the people in the gaza strip, they feel there is no place safe for them to go. i want to play one clip of what one person, what one displaced person in gaza had to say yesterday. take a listen. >> translator: we won't be heartbreaken, and in our family we have lost 56 people, and now we are stray and displaced, and they now say to evacuate to rafah. >> reporter: josé, again, the idf said it's targeting hamas
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militants and infrastructure, and one of the deepest fears is that as a result of the war they are going to be permanently displaced and relocated out of the gaza strip. >> appears fear generationally has been of concern for so many for so long. and families of the hostages being held just met with the israeli war cabinet? >> reporter: that's right. the meeting took place this afternoon. we are waiting to confirm what we are hearing, and it seems to not have gone well, and there was tension between the families and the members of the war cabinet. there's a very, very strong sense of fear and anxiety and high tension seeing the intensity of the resumed fighting, and the loved ones thought during the cease-fire they would be able to see how
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their loved ones were doing, and that never happened, and they have no idea whether their loved ones are alive or dead, and what condition they are in and how they are fairing in the context of the renewed fighting, and they are desperate for some kind of progress towards a new cease-fire agreement. diplomatically right now the chances of such a new agreement are looking pretty dim, although what you hear from all parties is that they are willing to renew negotiations. we are not seeing any sign those negotiations are, in fact, progressing. >> david from tel aviv, thank you very much. with us to continue our conversation is the executive director of doctors without borders in the usa. thank you for being with us. what are you learning from the teams in gaza? >> the hospitals are
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overwhelmed, and we have 300 members of our staff there and we have an international team of surgeons and intensive care specialists, and they say, for example, in one of the hospitals we are supporting, which normally would receive maybe 300 patients per day and it's a busy hospital before all of this, yesterday a thousand patients, so the -- >> more than 100% more? >> unbelievable scale of suffering. what they are seeing also is with all the injuries you also have infections, and people injured sometime ago, they didn't receive wound dressing changes, and didn't receive the antibiotics, and now they are getting amputations and so forth. these patients need long-term care, and what we are calling in addition to the cease-fire is to be able to medically evacuate
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the more serious patients to third-party places, third-party countries to receive the care they need to stay alive. >> like the babies we saw at the beginning of the hour where babies were successfully sent from gaza to egypt and now they are recovering. but in a war situation, and your organization has been involved in helping people in all kinds of disasters, including man made disasters, which is a war, this is something that could be expected, unfortunately. how is it that we can best help those people in gaza that are not participants in the war but are victims of that war? >> it's not at all expected, and it should never be tolerated to have the kinds of attacks on civilians we have seen in this particular war. we are seeing an unprecedented level of violence,
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indiscriminate violence that seems to be mostly affecting the civilians, and even a world health organization medical depot, a warehouse, was told to evacuate in 24 hours. completely unrealistic use of the evacuation notification mechanism, confusing for everybody and terrorizing for people who have been misplaced many times. >> i agree with you, but when israelis say and are stating this, it would be a clear violation of the geneva conventions, it's when world health organization centers are taken over, and it's difficult for those places to not be considered a military target when, unfortunately, other
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people take them as such. >> i would disagree. i think when you have a hospital full of patients, it's ae easily identifiable of the -- >> no, hospitals, when they are used for hospitals only, they are for sure to be protected, and israel says hamas are using hospitals as command shelters. >> that's what they are say, and we don't buy it. hospitals are overflowing. the siege meant there's a lack of medication coming in. people don't have water, and you have people dying and suffering from infections and a complete lack of maternity care. a number of other things will kill people beside the bombs, which in and of themselves are terrorizing enough for a population that has no safe place to go. this is a total war since the
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end of the truce, we have seen a pummeling of entire neighborhoods, and this targeting of the medical facilities, it has to stop. we need a cease-fire. >> y signed a letter to president biden calling for a sustained cease-fire in gaza. writing, quote, it's imposble for us to operate at scale, and we along with the entire civilian population are intentionally blocked by israel by accessing food, water and electricity and medical supplies that we need to care for the patients. i am wondering what responsibility israel has in helping this and what responsibility does hamas have? >> hamas is an authority there, and they have the responsibility as much as israel to protect civilians, and no civilians
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should be targeted in a war like this, and the u.s. response is you have military aid going to israel for this, and it's an ally and partner, and we get that. there should be assurances that aid is not going to be used to target civilians and wipe out neighborhoods and attack hospitals. this aid should not be used to commit war crimes, and that's what we are seeing, a lot of evidence that should be investigated that on a systemic basis, war crimes are being committed and should be stopped. we expect the u.s. government who said, be careful about the civilians, and we need real action. >> what would real action look like? >> it would look like it stop, and a cease-fire would be step one. we understand all the arguments on the other side, but look at what we are facing here. the population of gaza is
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displaced, under bombs and going to die of infections, dehydration. children are affected. we have a mental health program that started with children with nightmares, bedwetting, anxiety nonstop, and this is going to be long-term suffering and that's one of the reason the humanitarian community is united in asking for a cease-fire now. >> thank you for coming. i appreciate your time. >> anytime. >> thanks. up next, why former republican congressman, george santos, and of course that is something we will be talking about in the future, but we want to talk about why liz cheney says it's critical donald trump not return to the white house. but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. ♪ if there's pain when you try to poo ♪
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lawmakers to their responses on anti-semitism on college campuses, and also testifying is a professor of jewish studies, accusing the administration of standing by and letting it grow. what are we hearing so far at the meetings? >> reporter: we are hearing frustration particularly from republican lawmakers about the way many of the college presidents handled the growing rise of protests and threats against jewish students on college campuses, and college presidents trying to explain how they are attempting to balance the rights of their students to speak freely about the hot button issues, but at the same time not have the threats turn into violence or threaten the safety of many of the college students. the jewish studies college professor you talked about, and
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that was from american university, and he talked about how the federal government has a direct responsibility when it comes to helping these colleges prevent anti-semitism from happening on their campuses. take a listen to what she had to say. >> the issue is that the office of civil rights and the department of education needs to be fully funded in order to implement the u.s. strategy to counter anti-semitism. >> since the war broke out between hamas and israel we have seen the threats rise not only against jewish students, but students of palestinian dissent as well. >> thank you. turning now to the 2024 race for the white house. tomorrow night just four gop contenders will take the stage in alabama for the fourth primary debate. noticeably missing once again, the frontrunner, former
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president donald trump. the efforts to block trump's momentum ramp up, and many are urging chris christie to drop out and throw his supporters behind nikki haley. here's what liz cheney said earlier today on "morning joe." >> abide by the rulings of the court, and i think people need to pause and think about what that means. a president won't enforce court rulings with which he disagrees, and as soon as that happens people need to recognize immediately, you know, we are unraveling the fundamental structures and systems that make us a nation of laws. >> joining us now, darsha burns, nbc correspondent. what are you hearing from donors to coalesce behind one non-trump
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candidate? >> well, it has to happen if it's going to happen very, very quickly, because we are in a time when the window is narrowing. donald trump is still far ahead of the other candidates, and you look at the national or state polling, and iowa, that first in the nation caucus is going to be critical because that's where trump wants to kill the primary in the cradle. if he wins big in iowa, it's over there. if somebody can beat him there, or if somebody can even potentially come close and show that there might be cracks or a window opening, then maybe the narrative changes. still, it's an unhill battle no matter what. you have nikki haley and ron desantis duking it out for the
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second place mantle. you have got one of the big groups, afp, which is the koch network group behind nikki haley, but as our colleagues have been reporting, even in that group there are some knocking of heads, and some people thinking that should have gone to desantis. there has not been consensus, and that's a problem for the republican party. the part of the party that wants to see somebody other than trump get the nomination. >> is it very critical that iowa turn out well for desantis' campaign more than anybody? >> more than anybody. is that the campaign's absolute strategy. they have poured in all of their resources, their money, and their staff moved there and
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that's where they focused their entire ground game. iowa is do or die for desantis. if he does not have a good showing there, it will be a real problem for him going forward. >> you have been talking to voters, of course. is liz cheney's message about trump's threat against democracy something that resinates with them? >> i will give you a dissatisfying answer, which is it depends who you talk to. across the country as i talk to folks, there's a battle for the heart and future of the republican party. there are people who look at somebody like liz cheney and echo the words of former president trump, they call her a rhino, and there are other republicans that i talk to that are the republicans that think of themselves as the reagan republicans, the party of cheney, of liz's father, right,
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and they say they don't feel like they recognize the party anymore and want to bring it back to the party they grew up in and they don't know if that's possible or not with donald trump as the leader of that party. again, it depends on who you talk to, an it depends on what happens in the primary and the 2 2024 election. >> and liz cheney will be on later today with my colleague on "deadline white house." and up next, a massive explosion. already at the house moments before it went up in flames. and then zelenskyy addressing senators this afternoon, but will that be enough for senators to sign off on more aid to ukraine?
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27 past the hour. now turning to breaking news, a massive blast that rocked the community in arlington. can you see the flames and ball of smoke. the blast was heard and felt for miles around. police were investigating reports that somebody was shooting a flare gun from inside the house. joining me now is tom costello from arlington. great seeing you.
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what have authorities learned so far in your investigation? >> reporter: yeah, we expect a news conference from police in a couple hours. in the meantime, we have seen police, fire investigators as well as alcohol, tobacco and firearms investigators on the street scanning and looking for pieces of debris. behind me, you see the police tape and the destroyed house is on the other side of the police tape. take a look and a listen to what happened at 8:00 p.m. last night. >> reporter: yeah, the entire house just absolutely blew up. it came up off the foundation, and then it all seemed to settle back down again. police had been on the scene since the afternoon on a report that somebody inside had been firing a flare gun, 30 to 40
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flares. police responded and the s.w.a.t. team was outside trying to talk that individual out, and it all ended at 8:00 when that entire house blew up. amazingly, police were on the front yard and no police officer suffered serious injuries, and the other person on the other side has not been accounted for. some of the neighbors in the area said there was something off with him, and he put tinfoil on his windows and seemed to be conspiracy-minded, and not sure what that was all about. he has not been formerly identified. the police and atf are going through the evidence, and it appears to be an isolated case of an individual. we don't know if he purposely set the entire home on fire or blew it up as he was in the
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middle of the standoff with police or if it was an accident, but something tragic occurred last night, and the folks in the neighborhood are grateful nobody else was injured. >> tom, is that a massive explosion. you are just telling us how it literally went up from its foundation and came back down. that's massive. tom costello, thank you very much. turning to details about the case facing new jersey senator, bob menendez. the gold bars found in his home that was found was linked to a robbery case, and the serial on the gold bars appear to be exact matches to the 2013 robbery. meanwhile, fetterman is not letting up on his calls for
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menendez to resign, and he even is getting the help from santos to make a video. >> look, i don't think i need to tell you, but these people that want to make you get in trouble and want to kick you out and make you run away, you make them put up or shut up. you stand your ground, sir, and don't get bogged down by all the haters out there. >> here's how senator menendez responded to fedderman's post. >> well, i don't think mr. clickbait's donors would appreciate him enriching george santos. i am surprised he didn't ask his parents for the money. >> that's the back and forth between the two senators. this afternoon ukrainian
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president volodymyr zelenskyy is expected to make a personal appeal for congress to provide more aid to ukraine, but talks to help ukraine and israel have fallen apart. republican lawmakers say they would not support an additional round of aid unless congress addresses the problem at the southern border. you have new information about the letter that was written to the house? >> the speaker said he will not approve or he will not put on the floor ukraine aid without transformative border policy. we have been talking about this for a long time on this show and border policy and immigration policy is one of the naughtiest issues for congress to solve. saying ukraine won't get money without transformative border policy puts into doubt the ukrainians will get anymore
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money this year. i could be wrong, but i don't see how congress can get something the democratic senators and white house agrees to that passes house republicans' muster that would allow ukraine aid to go through. it's december 5th. congress is out december 14th, and they could extend it another week, but three weeks for border policy is difficult to see. >> as a matter of fact, you posted this morning at the end of the year turned into an absolute mess, and in other words it was not already? why? >> the house republican leadership has been very excited to say that they don't have a year-end spending bill, and they don't have the big year-end rush to fund the government, but instead they are going to have -- they have to renew fisa policy, and the supplemental bill that includes money for ukraine, israel and taiwan. they have the border -- i guess
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they attached that to the border policy, and all of these issues coming to a head, and then we get into january, and we have a january funding deadline and a february funding deadline. it just keeps piling up and up and up all of these deadlines, one after tphaot. >> you mentioned there are negotiations under way for the key surveillance law that is up at the end of the month. tell us about that. >> this is a program that is expiring at the end of the year that allows the u.s. government to surveil foreign nationals, it's called what we call fisa on capitol hill, and that expires. these don't fall on partisan lines. there are republicans and democrats skeptical about the surveillance policy in the united states. there are people on the intelligence committee and some of the more hawkish members that
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want to extend it straight up, and the leadership -- for the most part they are divided on it, but some have wanted to reform and overhaul the program, and solving something like this is difficult. >> the foreign surveillance act, is that through the foreign surveillance but the u.s. -- >> a lot of u.s. citizens are swept up in that fisa surveillance, and that dates back to the bush years you will recall. the privacy advocates and skeptics of the policy have wanted to tighten up the rules for sometime. >> jake, thanks. great seeing you. >> thanks. up next, a father says he has been living in hell as he
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waits on his israeli american son that is believed to be hostage hamas is still holding captive. we will speak to him in a minute, and ask him what, if anything, he's hearing from the israeli government. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. m. plus, superior nutrition. which is now more important than ever. ♪♪ because the way we care... is anything but ordinary. only eggland's best. ♪♪ [coughing] copd isn't pretty. i'm out of breath, and often out of the picture. but this is my story. ( ♪♪ ) and with once-daily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. because with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways open for a full 24 hours
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41 past the hour. we are showing you live pictures of a bipartisan news conference that is currently under way on capitol hill with members of
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congress and members of hostage families. these hostages still being held by hamas. this news conference is currently under way in washington, but this morning, meanwhile, the families of hostages still missing spoke with israel's war cabinet. at the top of the hour, we were told the families were asking more informati about their relatives after almost two months 137 hostages are still being held in gaza. joining us now from tel aviv, a father. you were just at the meeting with israel's war cabinet. what did you learn? >> first, thank you for having me again. i thought by now i would not need to be on the show again. thank you for keeping me in your mind and hearts. we heard from the war cabinet
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that they believe that the land exercise is critical to getting the hostages out. we also believe the united states has a very important role to play, to add to the land exercise pressure and the diplomatic pressure that is required where the u.s., in my opinion, you know, can put more pressure on qatar to influence hamas to get back to the negotiation table. >> i have been thinking a lot about you and your family, and the last time we spoke i was privileged enough to speak with you was on the 10th of october, and in two days it will be two months since that massacre and the taking of hostages, and just
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wondering how are you and your family doing today? >> you wake up each morning and you wake up to an alternative universe where you get a slap in the face, and basically the alternative universe tells you that you are still in that alternative universe, and this is reality. you say to yourself, okay, what do i do today? how do i improve one inch in the negotiation to get my kid back? you spend 18 hours working, talking, meeting, and you ask yourself at the end of the day, how much have i been productive? it's a very difficult question, josé, to answer, because you don't know. you just don't know. >> yeah. again, on the 10th, it was a weekday, and you were telling me how you were going to miss having your son with you to
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celebrate the bar mitzvah of your youngest son alone. how do you and where do you find hope to keep going? >> we have hope in the fact that we are united states citizens. president biden and his team, and jake sullivan that we met last week, as well as other biden administrations and executive branches have been on this and are telling us all the positive things you can expect, and josé, it has been 60 days and the bottom line is that eight u.s. hostages are still being kept captive after being kidnapped and abducted. i ask myself, you know, how do we get the u.s. hostages out? i think any american can sympathize with that and ask himself, what is the government doing to get the eight u.s. hostages out?
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>> yeah. i was just thinking about, ruby, you know, and i think it was somebody that said parents are a future message -- i am paraphrasing. what is the message you continue to leave your children? >> my message is that we are tough new yorkers, and if you guys are listening to us now, keep that spirit up that we have as new yorkers. remember the good times that we had, if it was at coney island watching a knicks game, being with family, together, and unfortunately we had thanksgiving last week and had an empty chair at the table. i would like to thank representative hoya that talked on behalf of my son on the floor last week and had an empty seat at his table, and we ask the
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united states government to do whatever you can. we want to be whole again with our family and celebrating the small events that everybody else has, and we want our family to be together again. that's all we ask. >> i thank you. we will continue our conversation going forward, hopefully with good news. just know that we are thinking about you. i thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> thanks. up next, the federal government says he called the united states the enemy, but what we are learning about the former u.s. ambassador arrested for being an agent for the cuban regime and the additional charges he's expected to face within days. you are watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn.
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this man held some positions that were able to clearly influence american policy. what more are we learning about this person? >> reporter: good morning, jose. not only could he influence american policy, he had access to highly classified information. right now, the fbi and justice department and other aspects of the intelligence community are scrambling to try to figure out what he gave to the cuban government. there are no hints of that in the criminal complaint released yesterday. he is not charged with espionage. it's not clear whether that's because they haven't established what, if any, information he turned over or whether they know it but they don't want to show it, whether he is cooperating. we don't know the answers to those questions. we know the state department says a damage assessment is underway. he would have known the identity of cia officers and the details about cia operations not only in bolivia but neighboring areas. he would have had access to
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sensitive intelligence briefs crossing the desk of the president. to the extent he turned that over to cuban handlers -- he was working for the cuban intelligence service. that would be a devastating breach. right now, the most important task for the fbi is to figure out what exactly was compromised, whether there are agents in danger. 40 years he was doing this, jose, according to this criminal complaint. >> ken, nsc in bolivia, panama, italy as well, was in mexico around the '92 time period, 1992. there's also southern command that he had a key role in the u.s. southern command. in many ways, this person may have at one time or another been considered the latin american expert at southern command,
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which has a direct responsibility with giving presidential advice. >> which would have made him a superstar spy for the cuban government. it's remarkable when you think about the success that cuba has had in penetrating and infiltrating the american government. anna montez, an expert just released from prison. both of those people, by the account of the criminal complaint, appear to be motivated not by money but ideology. a lot of people who spied for russia, they did it for money, they were dissatisfied in their jobs. according to what he told his -- the undercover fbi agent, he was a true believer in the cuban revolution. >> ken dilanian, i thank you very much for that update. appreciate it. before we go, we have some information that "time" announced the 2023 athlete of the year.
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it is lionel messi. the soccer star who is arguably the greatest to play the game. some will have a debate on that. he transformed the american soccer landscape. "time" writes, two decades into his unparalleled career, messi provided a singular stimulus to soccer in america. his game took on the feel of a religious revival. 2022 world cup champion. he has taken miami by storm. that pink shirt of his is the most popular thing. you see it everywhere. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news next. next
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