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hotels, escorts and cars, instead of paying his taxes. how he's responding. plus, police revealing that the professor behind a deadly nevada college shooting had a target list, along with 150 rounds of ammunition. what former students are sharing about his history of what they call peculiar behavior. we're now hearing from north dakota senator kevin cramer after his son was charged in a police chase that ended with the death of a sheriff's deputy. and the new information on why police say a man fired a shotgun and yelled free palestine outside a synagogue in upstate new york with a day care inside, and the terrifying moment that is put a nearby hospital into lockdown. we begin with news that president biden's son is facing an expansive new indictment on tax charges. nbc's tom winter is following this story for us. we heard from hunter biden, rare

today, he basically says this is political, aimed at his father. tell us about the details in this indictment, and what else you've learned. >> yeah, i think it's a couple of different things that came up in the course of this indictment that are potentially relevant for folks who have been following this or haven't been following this. we think back to the plea agreement that did not go down in july. we have talked about on a number of occasions. that was focused on failure to file. now prosecutors are going a step further, bringing in felony counts, going to the behavior that they allege involving hunter ben and his taxes. specifically some allegations about what he was spending personally in categorizing his business expenses, but what he was spending his on when he could have been ping his taxes, and these are some of the things they outlined, direct fromhe indictment, $1.6 million in atm withdrawal payments to women coming close to or over $680,000, talking

about restaurants and groceries, $200,000, and then adult entertainment, approaching $200,000, and they say all of that could have been used over a four-year timetable to pay the u.s. government what they say, prosecutors say we are all as taxpayers are rightfully owned. that's kind of the sense of this indictment. it's not just that he didn't file on time, they allege. it's that during the course of this, he took specific steps to evade taxes, calling personal expenses business expenses, and that he could have been paying those taxes if he wasn't paying out of his pocket for personal expenses, the ones that i just laid out. >> tom winter, thank you for that. let's go to las vegas now where we're learning more about the former college professor who shot and killed three people at the university of nevada. we're also learning about his behavior which former students describe as peculiar. nbc's steve patterson is live from vegas. what else can you tell us, steve?

>> reporter: anthony polito, according to students was an eccentric guy. this was somebody who was, according to students, obsessed with las vegas and the culture here, but also somewhat of a hermit, according to neighbors. we're learning more because police want us to know more. the sole focus of this investigation is trying to nail down a motive. despite all we know about this guy, police say they have not assigned a motive. that is what they're working on to try to figure out what the connection was between somebody that maybe was just upset at certain educators here at unlv to somebody that would commit a mass shooting at the campus of unlv. we know part of that instituted what amounts to a hit list that he had literally written down several names according to the sheriff of people he was targeting, that he sent letters across the country to certain educators. this was a guy that was trying to apply for, as a career professor, apply for jobs in certain campuses throughout the state of nevada was rejected from all of them, including here at unlv, and then committed the

shooting. police are trying to make that link, if it does exist. but they want to make sure that they're saying they have not connected those dots at this point. meanwhile, we're learning more about the victims. we just heard the name of the third victim now identified as nako takamoro, she joins jerry chang, and melissa valez. there's a four victim in stable condition. we're hearing the president making a trip to vegas to promote a transportation project will also talk to the president of unlv in a consultation to the students and the body here who is reeling and very upset after this horrific shooting. >> called on to be consoler in chief. steve patterson, thank you for that. north dakota senator kevin kramer is sharing details of what happens the night his son was charged with manslaughter after a deadly police chase.

nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles joins us now. >> reporter: what we know for sure is this is a horrific and tragic situation in every sense of the word. what the senator's office is saying is that his son who's 42 years old and has a history of mental health problems was with his mother at the time, and was grieving the loss of his brother who had died a couple of years ago, and took off in his mother's car. they ended up calling the police to inform them of the fact that he was on the run in a high speed situation, and police went to respond to that. it ended up being a police chase which led to the death of a sheriff's deputy. as a result, senator kevin cramer's son has been charged with manslaughter. the senator's office expressing grief and sorrow for the family of the deputy killed in the incident and his family members, but they're also asking for a degree of remorse for their son. he has a history of mental health problems, has dealt with

paranoia and hallucinations. he rushed back to north dakota to be with his family in the wake of all of this, but the sum total of this is that a sheriff's deputy has lost his life and the senator's son is facing a very difficult legal road ahead as a result of this tragic incident. chris. >> ryan nobles, thank you. now to the first court appearance today for the suspect in a shooting outside a synagogue in new york. albany, new york. police are now investigating it as a hate crime. nbc correspondent emilie ikeda joins us now. what happened in court today? >> reporter: as detailed in the court appearance, mufid alkhader, a 28-year-old man, ira fu born, facing one charge of using an unlawful firearm, and possession of a controlled substance. he told them he was impacted by the events happening in middle

east. to recap, it happened yesterday afternoon in albany. as you can see on the screen. police say he fired two rounds from a shotgun into the air sending a wave of fear over the area. he was taken into custody a short time later. on the premise at the time were two dozen preschoolers. here's more from governor kathy hochul reacting. take a listen. >> thankfully at this time, no one was injured in this incident. but the fear that it has reeked and the fear and anxiety it has caused, i know a lot of people are feeling shaken right now. >> we need light in darkness. >> that second person you heard from was the rabbi of temple israel, which a few months ago face add bombthreat. this comes at a time when so many jewish communities on edge. you look at hateme data for new york at for instance, in november, hate crimes, across the board, i should note, were up 90% compared to the last

year, and then there were nearly 25,000 online threats of violence against jewish communities since early october. and then you think about the timing of this really striking a chord. the shooting happening just before the first night of hanukkah. >> emilie ikeda, sobering statistics, thank you. upenn's president is respond to go backlash over her testimony on campus. anti-semitism, is it enough to keep her job? we'll head to philadelphia in 60 seconds. titanium and ipad and apple watch se - all on us. only on verizon.

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genocide of jews would violate codes of conduct. the video went viral, racking up tens of millions of views. penn's board of trustees spent much of yesterday on an emergency conference call with president liz magill who posted a video in the fight to save her job. >> the call for genocide of jewish people is a call for some of the most terrible violence human beings can perpetrate. it's evil. plain and simple. >> nbc's george solis is on the ground at u penn for us. walk us through the latest on the threat to magill's job, but also what you're hearing there from folks on the ground? >> reporter: i can tell you a few days have passed have not made it any easier. still calls on liz magill to resign, and other presidents. we can play a little bit of some of that sound from some of the protesters outside of her office

yesterday, but really what you're seeing is just a lot of backlash and anger. as you mentioned, there is some big money involved here from alum, and a major donor threatening to pull $100 million here from the wharton school of business, saying quote, absent a change of leadership and values in penn in the very near future i plan to rescind to prevent any further reputational and other damage. no official response from penn. as you were hearing a second ago, there have been protests on campus outside of the president's office calling for her resignation. >> i think that she should take responsibility for her own words. i think that in the past two months, she hasn't been leading by a good example. >> she should take responsibility. silence, and not being active and proactive triggers more violence, so this is something

that definitely she needs to change. >> reporter: that pressure certainly mounting. i've talked to students on campus. they say the university is sending a flood of e-mails. a lot of students are in the midst of finals. they haven't seen anything addressing, besides the video, of some of her comments and the grilling on capitol hill. many wondering how this will play out in the next couple of days if not weeks. >> as we mentioned, m.i.t. is another school at the center of the turnovers. avi balsam is a student there, vice president of the student board, and on campus jewish organization. thank you so much for being with us. i want to play some of what the president of m.i.t. said during this week's congressional hearing. here it is. does calling for the genocide of

jews, violate -- >> if targeted individuals not making public statement sgls yes or no? >> calling for the genocide of jews does not constitute bullying and harassment? >> i have not heard calling for the genocide of jews on our campus. >> you've heard chant. >> i wonder what the conversations have been like since then with your organization, friends on campus. what was your reaction when you heard that? >> thank you for having me here. obviously hearing that, all the jewish students at m.i.t. were quite disappointed by the fact that the president refused to condemn calls for genocide of jews on m.i.t.'s campus, and a part of me was shocked, but a part of me wasn't surprised because this didn't happen in a vacuum, and for the past while,

m.i.t. has been dealing with this issue, the issue of anti-semitism, the issue of calls for genocide, calls for an intifada in a passive way, and they refuse to take direct action against anti-semitism on campus. a lot of students were not surprised by the fact that m.i.t.'s president refused to condemn calls for genocide of the jews. >> there are real security concerns, following the start of the war. i wonder, what is it like to be a jewish student on campus right now? >> it's hard. it's very hard. and there's this social movement which is kind of springing up on campus in which a lot of people are subscribing to not knowing the extent to which it dehumanizes jews and makes us

feel unsafe. that kind of social pressure, that social alienation that we feel from some members of the community has led to real acts of anti-semitism on campus. just yesterday, sorry, two days ago, a couple of friends and i were sitting in the hill out building, the building in which jews go to find a safe space and to be in a place where jews are supposed to feel welcome, and a man came outside to the window of the building and he urinated on the window right in front of all of us with no shame, no care for the fact that we, i mean, obviously it was a hate crime, it was to offend us. it was to hurt us. and one of my friends went outside to confront him. he talked to him, and the man started saying he was from the mosad, asking him if he had nuclear weapons and verbally harassing him to the point where my friend felt compelled to go

back inside. he didn't feel safe around the man, and we called the police, and we did whatever we could, but it was just extremely unsettling to see that happen on a college campus in 2023, and i just kind of want to emphasize that it's not just an isolated incident. this has been happening. this is the climate on campus. this is how jews feel, and the presidents of m.i.t. and of penn and harvard really need to take action to stop this. >> so it's important, first of all, for all of us to say that's appalling, unacceptable and potentially seems to me illegal behavior. what is the campus -- what are police not doing that you think could be done? you have a right to go to college and feel safe. >> yeah, i think it's above the level of just police. because there's just the physical safety of jewish students, which is important, but there's also our ability to

feel psychologically and emotionally a part of the campus community and accepted and belonging. a sense of belonging and inclusivity. that's what's been missing in a lot of the legal and discussions about free speech, and the discussions about the nature of the constitution and the u.s. constitution and the laws. i think what's been lost is the fact that jewish students at m.i.t. are traumatized because of the incidents of anti-semitism, because of the social groups, study groups that have turned on them, expelled them, and made them feel unwelcome. i think that's a very important thing to think about, and i think that you can lose in a congressional hearing where the presidents are trying to discuss the legal implications of anti-semitism, the legal implications of free speech, and balance those two things. i think there's a third factor which has to be balanced, which is the safety of students, the psychological well being of jewish students on campus.

>> avi balsam, well said. thank you so much for coming on the program. we really do appreciate it. and we have breaking news just in involving a gag order in former president trump's 2020 election interference case. i want to bring in nbc news justice and intel correspondent, ken dilanian. what just happened, ken? >> chris, a d.c. court of appeals has upheld significant portions of this gag order that mr. trump had opposed on first amendment grounds in the d.c. election suppression case. this is a significant ruling. 60 some pages. they went into detail in their reasoning. essentially what they said is parties in the case, and specifically donald trump cannot make public comments about known or foreseeable witnesses in the case, about court staff, except for the judge herself. they have exempted her, and he exempted herself from the original ruling if you'll recall. also staff of the prosecutor and the special counsel except for jack smith himself, and it does not preclude former president trump from criticizing obviously

the biden administration, the justice department, the attorney general, or jack smith himself. but these judges, and remember we ran these oral arguments live on msnbc, and they were fascinating and they were lengthy, and there was a real push and pull about whether donald trump's first amendment rights as a presidential candidate were impinged by this gag order, and the other side, the special counsel presented all of the evidence of the threats that have emanated from some of donald trump's social media postings, and the potential witness intimidation. at the end of the day, this court said that they do not allow such an order lightly. i'm reading from the conclusion of the opinion. mr. trump is a former president and current candidate for the presidency, and there's a strong public interest in what he has to say. but they go on to say, mr. trump is also an indicted criminal defendant, and he must stand trial in a courtroom under the same procedures that govern all other criminal defendants. that is what the rule of law means.

so, again, this appeals court upholding significant portions of the gag order imposed by the judge in this d.c. suppression case. we can expect mr. trump to appeal this to the supreme court. unclear how long that might take. this is a significant ruling today. chris. >> and we might expect to hear from him as well on social media, if nothing else. ken, thank you for that breaking news. today, powerful victim statements in michigan, can the oxford school shooter who was 15 at the time of the killings avoid life in prison? that's next. get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. [city ambience sounds] [car screech] [car door slam] [camera shutter sfx] introducing ned's plaque psoriasis. [camera shutter sfx] he thinks his flaky, red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. [ned?] it can help you get clearer skin

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korthbluth. right now, we're keeping our eye on a michigan court, sentencing is imminent for ethan crumb crumbly who was 15 years old when he shot and killed students in his school, as survivors and victims explain what he put them through. >> i was 14 when he shot outside the classroom. i was certain i was going to be murdered. i wasn't in control of my body. i couldn't feel my limbs. my hearing went out, sort of like when you're under water and people above you are talking. my vision went blurry, and i didn't realize that i was running as fast as i possibly could. i used to be fearless. i used to be a good friend, but i can't be any of those things anymore because the only thing

on my mind are those gunshots, playing over and over on a loop. >> whenever i come back to oxford, i can remember everything. i can still hear gunshots and sirens. when i see sirens, sometimes i have a full on panic attack. >> multiple times survivors asked the gunman to look them in the ey stayed down. >> i can't leave this courtroom today thinking that you won, and i can't let you think that either. >> you are a waste of space. >> this monster should have to feel everything hard and painful and impossible for the rest of his life. >> nbc's maggie vespa is covering this for us. i'm also joined by shang wu, former federal prosecutor. what are prosecutors asking for in this sentencing? >> they are asking for the harshest sentence in the state of michigan, life without the possibility of parole, and you

saw a lot of testimony, the victim impact statements we have heard so far today. several times, parents and loved ones of those injured and killed pleaded with the judge not to give than crumbley any shot of walking out of prison. if the death penalty were an option, they would advocate for that. it's been more than two years since the this shooting. crumbley's attorneys argued in a miller hearing that given his age and given sort of the tracked mental health issues that he says he was grappling with at the time, they believe that he could be rehabilitated eventually and that as a result, they were asking the judge, this is the defense team, to eventually allow him the possibility of parole. that is being considered today after crumbley pleaded guilty to a list of charges, four counts of first-degree murder and terrorism causing death. another interesting hallmark, by the way, of this case and one

that the lot of people might remember is this is the teenager whose parents also faced charges this this shooting. james and jennifer crumbley, you see them there, facing four charges each of involuntary manslaughter tied to this shooting for prosecutors say helping their teenage son get access to a gun despite clear warning signs about his mental health. both jennifer and james crumbley have pleaded guilty to those charges. separate trials are expected to start as soon as next month. we reached out to attorneys about what happened today. the judge has implemented a gag order. it's worth noting they are not allowed to be in court today to watch their son be sentenced, and chris, we expect a decision today. the judge says he wants to wrap this up before the weekend. chris. >> maggie, thank you for that. so shan, let's start with the fact that he was 15 years old when this happened, and give us a sense of how the law applies

here. how age plays into sentencing generally, and doesn't vary from state to state, judge to judge. >> it does vary a lot. but the overall principle, chris, is the question of whether to try a juvenile as an adult goes to the point of rehabilitation, and also the general notion that society doesn't want to treat children as adults. and that gets counter balanced by the kind of crime, the severity of the loss, and the question of, you know, does this particular minor show they can be rehabilitated later. i think one important issue that's come up in our day and age now, is this access to firearms makes these crimes automatically more severe, more loss of life, and damage and that's beginning to weigh into this equation a lot. and i think that's what we see going on here. i have tried a case which involved life without patrol, and it's a very weighty responsibility, both on the prosecutors and the judge.

it was really the equivalent of a civil dental. and -- death penalty. that's the kind of emotion and gravity involved in this case. >> what else would play into the judge's decision here? you mentioned the possibility of rehabilitation, but i assume there are also psychological evaluations, perhaps does it also include whether or not he's shown remorse? >> it certainly would include whether he's shown remorse or not. and the psychological evaluations are something that will come in a great deal. i'm unclear why they withdrew the insanity defense. that played into the defense point of view which is to say this is someone who has had a lot of mental health issues. that should be a mitigating factor, if he gets better, he would be less of a danger to society. >> one of the highly unusual things in this case is that it involves a state terrorism charge. prosecutors say it helps them address the victims who survived the shooting but had their lives

permanently changed. we just heard from some of them. is this kind of a precedent setting possibility here. tell us sort of the legal definition of how this fits in. >> well, it's a very interesting use. it's precedent setting. i don't think it's been used before for school shootings. it seems to fit in well. the reason states have begun to enact domestic terrorism charges. you hear the fbi talk about there's a growing threat of domestic terrorism. the law is lagging behind on that point. i think also from a public policy standpoint, calling this kind of an act, which affects so many people, not just the people who were killed but their families, those wounded, i think it's appropriate to think of it as terrorism and the intent of people who do this sort of a mass attack on unarmed people is to terrorize them. so i think it's very appropriate

to use it. and sometimes it's just really critical for us to have the laws have the right name to call it what it really is, and i think this is an example of that. >> shan wu, always good to see you, thank you for coming on the show again. there's new footage out there appearing to show israeli soldiers rounding up palestinian men in gaza. the details on those arrests and the controversy it's causing from tel aviv next. plus, trouble brewing in ukraine as that nation now three years into the war nearly struggles to find troops. a former attache to moscow joins me after this. your plan for just $10 a month. only on verizon. have fun, sis! ♪♪ can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. i'm adding downy unstopables to my wash. now i'll be smelling fresh all day long.

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inside gaza, an cry following the release of a controversial video which appears to show dozens of palestinian men stripped down to their underwear, their heads bowed guarded by israeli troops. we do not know exactly when this was filmed, though it does appear to be recently. we have blurred any identifiable faces since it's unclear what if any crimes the detainees have committed. however, what we see here does appear to be consistent with the idf's recent activity in gaza in which they say they have apprehended hundreds of wanted suspects throughout the gaza strip. nbc's hala gorani joins us from tel aviv. also with me, retired u.s. army brigadier general peter zwack, a former attache to moscow.

what are both sides saying about these images? >> reporter: the israeli military is saying they're rounding up people they suspect of having ties to hamas, and that they are obviously having to strip them to make sure that they don't pose a threat. and inside of gaza, a very different reaction, but not just inside of gaza. i have been monitoring news headlines across the arab world and the amount of consternation and shock at these images cannot be overstated. just to give you an examplings the massacres of the barbarians, this is one headline, against the innocent civilians of gaza, stripping as and execution scenes. another newspaper headlining, israel strips gazan detainees in cold weather and forces them to bark to give them food. the arab world is looking at these images, and you remember during the iraq war, there was some defining moments when there

were images of detainees during the conflict there that really were a scar in terms of the, if you will, information war. and the united states is associated very closely in this part of the world to what israel is doing, and so therefore, these images are seen as something that the united states by its support of israel is also supporting sort of by proxy, via its military and political and diplomatic support for the state of israel, chris. >> hala, thank you for that. general, you have the israeli military saying this is a legitimate round up. palestinians are saying this is a terror tactic to humiliate them. is this appropriate in war? >> well, when you have a lot of prisoners, you've got to check them all out for carrying things, certainly concealed under their clothing and all that. but in this case, i just think

that the israelis, you know, they got to talk to their local commanders. they can't do this. the whole world is watching. they know the culture and the islamic culture. whether this was at a local commanders level or whatever, you know, we always talk about, and you know, tactical corporal creating a strategic blow back, and this is what's happened. and they've got -- the israelis got to get a handle on it. they've got to come out in a statement and show that they have the sensitivity, and as was earlier mentioned, we went through this heavily in iraq. abu grib and others and also in afghanistan. and finally, this pulls the united states into ugly narratives. i don't believe it's the israeli

policy. they need to say something, and then they need to correct this and correct publicly because this will just grow. >> does this, in fact, make israel an idf's job more difficult because you heard the headlines that hala just read. the images coming out could erode international support which we know has been eroding. >> to me? yes. absolutely. it's another front. and the information front is huge. it's gone way correspond the horrors of october 7th and the bombings and everything else in gaza. and the information war is a front that israel's got to hold its own, and we are supporting

them full heartedly as allies, but overtly, openly, we are very very troubled. and the administration has said that, our allies have said that. i think in this case, and war is awful, you're going to get these situations. but to line them all up like that, there seems to have been 30 or 40 of them, strip them down, and then have in front of cameras in all of that was bad in itself, but wrong when you're dealing with this culture. understanding those tactical commanders in the ground have to check out of these guys, detainees or captured for the reasons mentioned earlier. no, it's really really ugly. it needs to be nipped in the bud, right away. and i think it comes from high in the israeli government.

>> i also want to ask you about ukraine because "the washington post" is reporting a problem with draft dodgers, as their war with russia is heading into a third year, general. how concerning is that as we also see such a battle in congress to send money and aid there? is this what putin has been holding out for at this very moment? >> yeah, chris, let's look at the situation. first of all, a free nation, ukraine, almost two years ago, february was invaded. and have been fighting an existential war for its life for almost two years. the soldiers are wrapped up on that. this is not an elective war for ukraine. they're fighting for their lives. the government has had to pull

every lever and string to -- well, i need to make a key point. i was there a number of months ago, and society was all in on the fight. but now here we are into winter. they're still fighting. they're dying. they're still giving the russians a heck of a fight. but the war of attrition, going into winter is hard. there's no immediate hope in sight of a near ending. they hear the news of our congress and elsewhere that there may be less support, and so you have young ukrainians. i'm patriotic, but i don't want to die. and so i think you have all of these things going on, and it's making it hard for the zelenskyy government. again, the ukrainian population is fully behind the war, but when you're a young fighter and being told to go, and a lot of people are dying, that makes it harder. i think that's a key point. >> retired army brigadier

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november. 9,000 more tha economists had expected. and unemployment fell to a four-month low. so here's the big question. what are the chances these numbers could actually lead to a hike in interest rates? nbc news business and data correspondent brian which you think -- brian cheung is here at the big board to break down the numbers. >> this was supposed to be the year of a potential recession. the labor market side of things, not there. 199,000 jobs added in november, a faster pace than we saw in october, and above what wall street estimates had expected. they expected about 190,000. when it comes to the unemployment rate, it ticked down to 3.7%. that's the 27th consecutive month of an unemployment rate below 4%. leisure and hospitalities, bars and restaurants adding 40,000 jobs, and check this out, health care adding almost 77,000 jobs, well above the pace we had seen

in prior months, and the last one is motor vehicles and parts. they added 30,000 jobs in the month. this was a reversal of the uaw strike. in october, we saw a contraction, there was a resolution the last week of october. they went back to work. that complaining why the top line number was so good. unemployment rate remaining low. no recession at least on the jobs market side. >> so is it going to allow the federal reserve to say, hey, let's check out interest rates, maybe they have to go up just a little more. >> yeah, well, they have a meeting next wednesday, and when they look at what's been going on here, they're looking at the labor market going, maybe this is a bit of a hot jobs report. they're also looking at this, average hourly earnings, how much are people getting paid? 4.1%, that's how much more people got paid in october of this year to october of last year. that slowed down to 4% in the november to december period. the federal reserve might be saying, we thought that number may have been a little bit lower because we have been ratcheting interest rates so high. that makes borrowing costs

expensive and can make that lower. again, we'll have to see. they get to the meeting on wednesday. the market bets they won't raise interest rates next wednesday. we'll have to see. >> brian cheung, thank you for that. elon musk is now considering reinstating the x account of alex jones, the conspiracy theorist, perhaps best known for claiming that the sandy hook school shooting was a hoax. jones was permanently banned from the social media app which was then known as twitter back in 2018 for violations of the company's abusive behavior policies. he filed for bankruptcy protection after a judge ordered him to pay nearly a billion and a half dollars to the families of shooting victims. nbc's laura joins us for cnbc on msnbc. here we are just a year ago, elon musk said he wouldn't restore jones' account and here's what he wrote. i have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame. so what changed? what do we know? >> hi, chris, it's a really good

question. thank you. a lot has changed. so since elon musk took over twitter, he has made sweeping platform and policy changes there and he has been posting plenty of divisive tweets himself. the white house condemned him for an abhorrent promotion of anti-semitic speech. he apologized but he hasn't convinced everyone he's sincere. these things have already driven away the kinds of advertisers that would find a harmful conspiracy theorist presence on x to be problematic for their brands. he may feel more open to explore this. one other reason, musk may be reconsidering the suspension, he's getting criticized by his fans, especially of the more libertarian or far right ideology for failing to be a true speech absolutist. before taking over twitter, he described him that way.

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a former employee of the nfl's jacksonville jaguars is charged with stealing $22 million from the team for a luxury shopping spree. according to documents filed by a u.s. district court, the money was spent on a condo, cars, cryptocurrencies, gambling, a $95,000 watch and more. nbc news correspondent sam brock has the details. >> reporter: on the field. >> lawrence, back in the end zone. >> reporter: the jacksonville jaguars have enjoyed high flying success this season. but off the gridiron, new federal charges accuse one of the team's former employees of astronomical theft to the tune of $22 million. the justice department laying

out how amit patel, a jaguar's employee from 2018 to 2023 used an elaborate scheme to steal all of that money and allegedly spent it on lavish items, including a florida condo, a new tesla model 3, a country club membership. a $95,000 watch, and online gambling web sites. the athletic broke the story with her colleague, katie strang. >> a jaguars employee responsible for financial planning is accused of stealing $22 million. >> it is as crazy as it sounds. this is not an every day headline. this is a very unique story. he was supposed to be safe guarding the business's finances, and instead, he was actually accused of stealing from the team. >> reporter: in a statement, patel's attorney, alex king says his client suffers from a serious gambling addiction and checked himself into a rehab facility this spring, saying this all came about because nfl officials were investigating his

gambling activities. approximately 99% of the funds misappropriated from the virtual card were gambling losses. since partnering with multiple online betting sites several years ago, the nfl has been very strict about rules around gambling and essentially banning it for employees. several high profile players have been punished, but this is easily the most significant alleged employee violation with the nfl noting in a statement, a league review uncovered no evidence indicating any inside information was used or that any game was compromised in any way. what did you make of the nfl's reaction to this criminal investigation? >> that is the nfl's main concern. this is their big thing, the optics matter so much to them. they want to be seen as putting on fair games. >> reporter: sam brock, nbc news. that does it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 eastern on msnbc. in just a few