state formerly known as twitter, and -- the reverend al sharpton is next. he's got the legendary actor and comedian kenan thompson on the show today, who by the, way has actually played the reverend on saturday night live. take a look at this. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> okay, welcome to politicsnation. now all over the country, there are protests. for the first time in my life, everybody agrees with me. folks that have been fighting with me, inviting me places. this must be what it feels like to be beyoncé. reverend, how do you think that keenan did? i know this is going to be a great interview. i can't wait to watch. well, i have known keenan since he started. the longest staffer, or stage person on snl. we're going to talk a lot about the things, including him itating me. i will enjoy it. we are really doing it because

we are all celebrating the birthday of you, symone. i'm going to light it up for your birthday. happy birthday, symone. >> thank, you reverend, i love you so much. >> i love you. and to all of you watching, good evening and welcome to politicsnation, tonight's lead, the clock is taking. lawmakers will return to capitol hill this week with less than two weeks to go. if they hope to pass a military aid bill before christmas. republicans have pushed to add border security to the bill, alongside the politically thorny issues of funding for israel and ukraine. they have so far been unable to

find much common ground with the white house. in the middle of it all, how speaker mike johnson is poised to move forward on an impeachment inquiry against president biden. adding to the partisan gridlock. delaware representative lisa blunt rochester joins us shortly as the clock ticks down on 2023. we've got a real treat for you later, elder statesman of saturday night live, comedian and actor keenan thompson is everywhere right now. we have got him tonight to talk about his new book, his face and voice on the silver screen, and of course, his knack for impersonating yours truly. that is in just a little bit, don't go anywhere. joining me now is congresswoman lisa blunt rochester, a democrat of delaware. congresswoman, thank you for joining us. we are starting tonight with

the abortion issue. your response to the news out of texas this weekend. the state supreme court has paused a lower court ruling granting an abortion to a woman who is unborn child has a fatal condition and is unlikely to survive once born. the state attorney general has legally threatened doctors who might perform emergency abortions, which is already about 20 weeks present pregnant. congresswoman, would abortion be a definitive election issue in 20 4:24? >> first of, all reverend al, thank you for having me on your show again. most definitely, abortion would be an issue in 2024. remember, in 2020, it was a clear cut issue, but now we are starting to see the real world consequences of abortion bans across this country. they are really made possible because of trump appointed supreme court justices,

overturning roe, the case in texas really points to this notion that the politicians should not be making health care decisions. and substituting them. you might have heard me to say before, and i'll say it again, there is no room in our rooms for politicians. there is frankly one reason that i'm running for senate, and it's also to me, something that cuts across every political stripe. in this upcoming campaign, you can rest assured that we are going to remind people who took away the right, donald trump, and who is fighting to make sure that we have the right for our own reproductive rights and abortion care. >> nationwide as well as your run for u.s. senator in delaware, this will be a central issue, you feel. >> yes. >> yesterday, university of pennsylvania president but liz mcgill signed the criticism that --

the ivy league college presidents over their congressional testimony last week about antisemitism on their campuses. in the weeks since the israel hamas war began, they've had demonstrations and all kinds of languages there. do you think that it was the right decision for her to resign? >> you know, i think that is a decision between her and the board. i do think that we need to start with a simple premise that calls for genocide of jews is vial and unacceptable. a call for violence. it really has no place in our society or on college campuses. it is not protected speech. i heard you yesterday on your show say the same thing i was thinking. i'm glad these presidents are recognizing the very serious nature -- you know, not being clear in their hearing last week. the bottom line is that all of us have got to come together to

confront and combat hate. wherever we see it, and whoever it is being aimed at. if that's her decision, the school's decision, i am glad that they recognize the seriousness of this. >> i think, and i hear from your comments, you and i agree that it is one thing to have different opinions. i'm against antisemitism and islamophobia. when you say killed jews, killed blacks, that is where we have to say -- that's too far. if they were there ready to march, i can't be silent when they say killing or erasing jews or muslims. it has been reported the congressional leaders have started discussions around federal spending in 2024, hoping to avoid another shutdown. another showdown around the shutdown, really. we came dangerously close to shutting down the government twice in 2023. do you expect another fight

when congress comes back from the holidays? >> you know, reverend, the republican conference that we currently have, the republican colleagues, it is certainly a possibility. you already have a very slim majority with representative sanders gone. now mccarthy talking about resigning at the end of the month. they are going to have it even smaller majority to get through these funding deadlines. the maga part of their conference is threatening the new speaker that doesn't stand up and do the new extreme demands that they have. it will vote him out as well. the bottom line is that we really feel that there is one path forward. hakeem jeffries, our leader and democratic leadership, as well as all of us. they've articulated that from the very beginning, we have got to have a bipartisan path forward. speaker johnson has got a

choice now. a clear choice. he's either got to go with the maga extreme of his party, or he's got to govern and work with us. that's the bottom line to avoid the shutdown. >> i am out of time, but before you go, as we said, your campaign becoming the first black person -- or person of color, and woman senator representing delaware. having already broken those exact barriers in congress, and according to the polling site about political magazine, you've got an early lead in this thing in just a few weeks before primary season. before it opens up across the country. what are you hearing from voters in delaware as you attempt to make history? >> reverend al, i am excited about the race. things are very positive on the ground. the energy is good. i always tell people, we have to fight and work for every

single vote. we're not taking one vote for granted. we're seeing delaware in the blue state, you know this personally. even when i go to the lower part of our state, that's along the mason-dixon line. people know who reverend al is if you have been there. for us, we are blue, purple, and a red state. we are taking every vote seriously. we want to win this. we want to win so that we can represent in washington, d.c.. >> all right, thank, you congresswoman lisa blunt rochester for being with us again. joining me now is my political panel. danielle moodie, host of the new abnormal podcast. and republican strategist, jennifer horn, cofounder of the lincoln project. let me start with you, daniel, later this afternoon, president trump announced on strew social that he will not testify in his

own defense tomorrow in the 200 million-dollar fraud trial. he said quote, he's already testified to everything, of got nothing more to say other than the this is a complete and total -- complete and total election interference. the biden campaign in parentheses, witch hunt. what could this mean for the case, and for the political implications? >> to be honest, i think that donald trump does more damage to himself and then every time he testifies. he threatens the judge, manages to threaten the new york a.g.. he's got nothing else to offer. you can testify on your own behalf if you actually have a defense. he does not. right now, i think that for his positioning in this upcoming election, i think that it makes sense for this team to have him be quiet. donald trump cannot manage to do, because he made this announcement on truth social.

>> danielle, let's stay with you. congress has less than a week left in session before the end of the year. they have still not reached their agreement on the israel and ukraine package. nbc news has learned that the white house intendtoamp up its outreach to capitol hill this week to help move the deal forward. meantime, yesterday the biden administration passed coress -- by passed congress and approved an emergency cell of 14,000 rounds of tank ammunition to israel. more than 100 and $6 million. just hours ago, we learned the speaker johnson will meet with ukrainian president's ellen ski on tuesday. that comes after president biden invited zelenskyy to the white house to meet. what can we expect between speaker johnson and president

zelenskyy? >> i think that republicans have said from the beginning that they side with putin. if it were up to them, they would've been providing any aid whatsoever to the ukrainian people. i think it is important that johnson meet with zelenskyy. i'm not sure if he is going to help at all however, because the maga portion of the republican house, which is all of them, don't want any more funding to go to ukraine. they've stood with putin because that is where donald trump stands. they have wanted to parse out these packages because they do not want to have the funding for ukraine wrapped up in the funding to israel. it allows them, the republicans to continue having this stand the dave wanted. the president, the reason why he bypassed, this he knows that it's a tough road in congress. >> jennifer, the fate of biden's aid package has become linked to immigration. republicans want stricter

border policies, including in the bill. esent biden has said this week that he is willing to make significant compromises to get an aid package passed. a number of his latino members of congress are worried that biden would make an immigration deal with republicans that they find unacceptable. is there any other deal on border policies that folks on both sides can agree to? >> as long as they maga caucus in the house is leading the charge with republican stance on these issues, i don't think there is. to call them an extreme, an extreme influence is really being gentle with them. when you look at what they are asking for, the border policy, that extremity is really being highlighted. whether or not the president

decides -- i guess the question is how far is the president willing to go to satisfy them and get them on board with the aid package. you also obviously have to -- it has to get past the senate. i think that president biden is particularly difficult situation right now. he's got to get that aid package passed, but he's also got to be thinking about where democratic voters are going to be standing next year. when reelection time comes around. it is a very sensitive subject on both sides. i don't think that the majority of americans want to see the republicans win in this particular battle. danielle, this week, house republicans are expected to vote on a resolution to authorize the impeachment inquiry into president biden. they're accusing biden and his family of obscuring payments from foreign adversaries during his time as vice president. the biden administration has repeatedly dismissed the

inquiry, and its efforts as being politically motivated. speaker mike johnson has said he believes republicans have the vote to approve the resolution. how significant is this vote? and what could it mean for president biden into next year's election? >> i mean, i think the reality is that we have a lot of crises unfolding around the world. and this is what the republicans want to waste their time on. and the american people see this. i mean we have issues in this country as it pertains to our economy, we have issues in terms of two wars that are waging across countries, and this is what republicans want to do? is to have an impeachment inquiry? they have nothing on this president. all they have is their ability to try and smear his character and smear his name. that is it. this will come up with nothing, but this is what they're which sting our tax dollars on. >> jennifer, hours after the

republican house was revealed, -- under biden was indicted on nine tax related charges, including three felony counts. the filing alleges that the presidents son failed to pay taxes, evaded an assessment, and filed a fraudulent -- rather than pay his taxes, the defendant spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle. and of quote. how do you see these new charges impacting the impeachment inquiry into president biden? >> well, i think, unfortunately, these charges are gonna give republicans some energy, and some real motivation to kind of come at this more aggressively. we saw in polls earlier this year that the republicans strategy of trying to associate the president with this actually seemed to have some impact on voters. the idea that the repetitive

use of the bride and crime family had impact on some voters. the more time that the presidents son spends in the spotlight for potentially illegitimate issues, the more damage it's going to have on joe biden when it comes to face voters next year. if i were the biden campaign, that would be probably my primary concern right now. we know the president is very loyal and dedicated to his family, to his children, as you would expect him to be, as any parent would be. but i think that his son's legal problems are going to become progressively more cumbersome to the campaign. >> daniel, how do you view this as becoming a potential problem, politically, for the president? >> i mean, to be honest, i will say that the president has a lot of other issues that he needs to be paying attention to that are going to be troubling

voters, as regardless of what has happened with hunter biden, or what charges are being filed against him. because guess? what hunter biden is not an elected official. he's not running for president. he has no effect whatsoever on the day-to-day lives of the american people. so this president should be actually looking at the issues that voters care about. because the voters care about what affects their lives, not what affects hunter biden's life. >> all right, daniel moody and jennifer horn, thank you both for being with us. still to come, this week's rise up, a call to bring home all of the hostages being held by hamas. plus, saturday night lives kenan thompson takes his jokes from the stage to the page with a new book. more on that and what else he's getting into later on politicsnation. but first, my colleague jessica layton with today's other top

news stories. jessica. >> hey, at their, reverent, thank you. stories we're watching this hour. tennessee governor bill lee has declared a state of emergency after multiple tornadoes hit the nashville area. six people have died, including at least one child, and multiple homes were destroyed. more than 40,000 people are still without power right now. israel has ramped up its offensive in southern gaza and warned people to evacuate the city of khan yunis. meanwhile, conditions in gaza are deteriorating as we speak. an estimated 30% of its population of 2.2 million have been displaced since the start of the fighting and october. that's according to the united nations. and texas state senator john whitmire defeated congresswoman schirra jackson-lee in the race to become houston's next mayor. he won by nearly 29 percentage points. the two democrats emerged from a crowded 18 person race from the first round of votes in last month's elections. i'm jessica layton.

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least 110 hostages released by hamas, the israel defense force estimates around 140 people are still being held in gaza. as president of the national action network, i joined martin luther king the third and andrea waters king of the -- institute this week for a call with rachael goldberg and john -- whose 23-year-old son is still being held captive in gaza. i spoke with them about their son, but they were also concerned about all of the others. this is the same sentiment other families expressed when they met with prime minister netanyahu on tuesday. the israeli government says the remaining hostages come from 25

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longest tenured cast member in the history of saturday night live. and he recently found the time to write his first book, quote, when i was your age. that's the name of your book. joining me now is comedian, actor, and the greatest all sharpton impersonator ever to walk this earth, kenan thompson. kenyon, my staff spin all smiles this week since we learned you are coming on the show, and i can think of a better guest to help us close at 2023 on a high note. you know, you can't leave without doing one of your impressions of me. but i'll let you warm-up forest. >> forget about it, it's good to see, you have. it's been a long time since a couple few days ago when i saw you on the morning show. >> yeah. >> we had a good time out there. that was a good time. seriously, man. it's good to see you. thank you for having me, man.

>> let's start with your new memoir, which i understand is your first in 30 plus years you've been in show business. what can we expect to learn from the book when i was your age? >> i mean, this is the first time i'm really offering insight into, you know, my whole life, since the very beginning, and kind of where my parents are coming from. growing up with my brother and sister. you know? and basically, my background. because a lot of people just see me on television in formats like this. so this is my first chance to kind of share everything. >> now, you're a busy man these days, keenan. along with the book launch and snl, you're in the latest animated film in the trolls franchise. your voice that is in that, and of course, you've got the millennials in the house, all

in their feelings. recently runner ending you with your longtime partner in the sequel to the 1997 comedy classic, good burger with good burger too. and i got a quick bite here for my audience. roll the clip, please. >> we're gonna be opening mega could burgers, in cities all over the world. >> from hollywood to hong kong. >> hong kong is not a city? it's the name of a -- >> wrong colin. >> is wrong calling the name of the? eight >> king kong. >>. the game with the paddles? >> ping-pong. >> the sound a doorbell mix? >> ding don! >> please stop! >> you're everywhere now. -- what have you done as a performer that you would like to do?

>> i guess doing some more live stuff. i think we have an opportunity, maybe, to bring i keenan and -- live show to people, maybe tore that around, or something. it just feels good to be back working with my brother, you know what i mean? he makes me laugh all day long. we had such a good time shooting good burger. just stuff like that, i guess. maybe something on broadway at some point. i don't know, they were acquired. >> i'm a pretty serious guy, but even i can't help but laugh at myself when you played me on your shows. roll the tape, show this. >> it's no secret that hillary clinton is raising that's. excuse me. resonating more than black voters. here to give some insights, my personal statistical analyst, mr. charles richards. >> good morning, reverend. please don't take this the wrong way, but i expected you to be a little skinnier.

i know you worked really hard to lose all that weight. it's a shame to see that you seem to have gained it back. >> well, frankly, charles, i like myself this way. people say i look younger. >> for the first time, i want to bring it back. we talked about it the other day. first time i hosted saturday night live was 20 years ago, december 6th, 2003. it was your first season. when you played me, as you have for 20 years now, where do you begin? how do you get the rev right? >> it's all in the sound. you know? you have a very particular sound. the way you talk. you've got gravel in your voice, you know? it's a very particular way of being. you know? that's who you are. you're very special person. you know? so you kind of make it easy for me as far as jumping in and out

of the tones. you know? as you can hear right now, as i'm speaking as many more miles off. but i can go back to the reverend at anytime, because, you speak from way down up in here, is where it all comes from, i think. you know? you dig down deep when you talk. >> happy as i am to keep the interview on the lighter side, it is politics nation with al sharpton, and i have to ask while those time. keenan, is there any where you find humor in today's politics? either any political personalities that you find comical, if not outright funny? >> i mean, at the moment, i'm kind of in between new people to have fun with. i don't know. it's kind of our job to, you know, the able to kind of peel through the laughter of comedy as things are going on.

but yeah, right now, it's very turbulent. so it's hard to find someone to make fun of that i haven't done before. >> following up on that, did you get the sense that political satire on snl, or say, the daily show, has had an influence on younger viewers watching you? i mean, between the jokes and the gag's, are they taking something away? >> i think absolutely, you know? because i think the better joke, probably, the more truth there is in the jack, you know? i think finding those things that resonate with people that everybody is thinking, whether it's in the back of their mind or the front of their mind, you know, that causes them to laugh, you can kind of gauge where everybody's mentality is on any given topic. >> you know, i want you to know that this photo, and i'm holding it up, is hanging on the wall in my office here. from 20 years ago.

jimmy fallon on the left, tracy morgan, and on the right is you and your first season. the sketch was called three wiseman. we are on the way to bethlehem, and a racist pop, jimmy fallon, pulls us over frisbees vicious activities in the desert. >> i remember them very well. said it to my brother tracy morgan, man. he was always solid. and my first season, even in the fact that he was off the show. he would come back and, you know, make sketches like that, you know, really, really special. because we needed three wiseman, and tracey is a home header, i was brand-new, it was your week to host. we knew you were gonna be delivering, and stuff like that. it was nice just to have those guys, like, jimmy fallon in his last season on the show, it was an epic moment. i remember it very, very well.

fake horses. the cameras. >> i know your last show of the year is next weekend, and your former cast mate, kate mckinnon, another veteran, is coming back for. it one more time, let me ask you this. you already didn't impersonation of me, but i want to remind, in an airport, i ran into your mother. she stopped me going through the airport with my guys, and the lady said, i don't want no selfie. and keenan's mother. your family is so much an important part of you. you talk about it all the time. before we go, just tell people, when the jokes over, what is keenan like family wise? >> i mean, family is first and foremost, you know? it was everything that i was bucket for i became an actor. so it's definitely everything i'm gonna be, all the way out the door, whenever that may be or never may be. whenever. but yeah, family is everything

to me, man. i love them dearly. they've taught me pretty much everything about who i am as a person that i could ever know. knowing where you're coming from is hyper critical to knowing where you're going. i will snap, we in deep. >> all right. my thanks to you. comedian, author, actor, kenan thompson, go by his book, see his movies, and continue to enjoy him on saturday night live. coming up, a study spanning decades really feels some hard truths about black women's health and what impacts it. more on that after the break. more on that after the break. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. if you have hepatitis b, don't stop dovato

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politicsnation. a new study from boston university looked at the health of nearly 60,000 black women of almost three decades, and found racism may play a greater role than even genetics and lifestyle. joining me now is an associate professor for ampa geminal -ology and boston's university -- she's also one of the lead investigators of the black women's health study. thank you for joining me, first

of all, doctor. >> thank you for having me. this is a real pleasure. >> now, your study found racism put black women at a higher risk for diseases like diabetes, hypertension, asthma, and heart disease. can you explain these findings a little further? >> certainly. so, racism is much more than the very noxious name calling and big events that people tend to focus on. it's the every day slights, it's the institutional limitations that people have to live their lives in during. this really wears away at individuals. it creates a very stressful situation that impacts the way the body functions. you know, the searches of hormones, the stress levels, so on. and this has a tangible effect on health outcomes.

>> now, this is the largest and longest running study in the united states that focuses entirely on the health of black women. over 30 years. talk about the methodology you and your team used to arrive at your findings. >> the study began in 1985, as you note, and it consisted primarily of women who are subscribed to essence magazine. also women who are members of professional organizations such as the black nurses and black teachers associations. we are following the methodology of many of the other large cohorts of primarily white women in white positions, in that we send questionnaires every two years to update information. we ask a series of questions. we ask women to report various health outcomes, and when they do, we ask for permission to examine the medical record so

that we can confirm the diagnoses. and then, perform analyses relating, you know, some of the questions that we fact about them -- experiences of racism, and various outcomes over the course of time. over the course of these 30 years. >> your research found the zip code you live in can have a major impact on your health. can you explain why? >> certainly. when we think about when people choose to live somewhere, where you live determines where you are educated. the quality of education you get. the jobs that you are exposed to or have an opportunity to hold. you know, your opportunity to even exercise and to shop and to have easy access to health promoting products, such as fresh fruit. vegetables. groceries of high quality.

so where women live, particularly those in under-resourced and neglected areas, they lived with lower quality. they are closer to roadways. they certainly have more exposure to pollution and other toxins. exercising may not be something that they're able to engage in in a helpful way. so again, all these things, including stress, stress related to the environment where they're living, can contribute again to health outcomes. poor health outcomes. >> given everything you've learned from your research, what suggestions do you have for improving health care for black women? >> well, one is that in the training of physicians and clinicians, to understand that the lived experience of individuals is very important.

understanding that black women, we're not one size fits all, and women aren't one size fits all. we bring a very different life experience. and that really has to follow us into the examination room. it's also to empower black women to come in and ask questions. make sure that your questions are answered. make sure that you are heard. and it's very intimidating, especially in some of the circumstances, within the examination room, but you have a right to ask questions and have your questions answered to your satisfaction. you and your clinician work together to improve your health. >> what policies are recommendations what you have? >> certainly, neighborhood design. we are creating and renovating neighborhoods all over the city, all over this country, really, and we really need to doing so

with an eye on keeping people where they are, and making neighborhoods healthy for those who live there. not just public health people and people in medicine, but also with urban planners and city officials. we can make places much safer and much healthier for people all over this country. >> all right. yvette c. cozier, thank you for being with us. i want to remind you that tomorrow, former representative liz cheney wl join my colleague, jen psaki, to discuss the state of the republican party and the threat former president trump poses to democracy. watch inside with jen psaki tomorrow at eight pm eastern on msnbc. stick around for my final thoughts. thoughts. you can reach out and change the life of a suffering child right now. a surgery that take as little as forty five minutes

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america came together during the pandemic and served deliberately millions in terms of vaccination and health support. and now, we face even more challenges. it's not a challenge limited to the black church, but the entire faith community. and that is, the threat to democracy. the threat to the right to vote. the threat to those that want to have a voice in a country that said in its origins that it was founded the give people the right to vote, though it take many years, hundreds of years, to get women, to get blacks, and others the right to vote. the challenge now is to maintain that right, and to stop the rollbacks that are happening with state legislators and local and federal and supreme court movements. this will be a challenge, that

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thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at five pm eastern. right now, it's american voices with alicia menendez. we have sharpton, before i got, i just have to say i love that interview with you and keenan. that is a show i would watch 24/7 given the opportunity. loved every minute. >> thank you. >> hello, everyone, i'm alicia menendez. i'm gonna begin this sunday with breaking news. donald trump no longer