♪♪ tonight on "the reidout" -- >> what is the specific constitutional crime that you're investigating? >> well, we're having an inquiry so we can do an investigation into all the production of witnesses and -- >> what is the crime you're investigating? >> and documents. high crimes, misdemeanors and briberies. >> what high crimes are you investigating? >> look, once i get time, i will explain what we're looking at and i will make the equivalency. >> no, i'm asking for you -- >> that is congressman joe naguse asking a simple question, one that republicans still can't answer as they breathlessly approve a biden impeachment inquiry. the congressman joins me

tonight. there appears to be a growing rift between president biden and israel's benjamin netanyahu. representatives rashida tlaib and cory bush join me tonight. and there's breaking news tonight in one of jack smith's federal cases against donald trump. the court of appeals for the d.c. circuit handed trump another setback. i'll talk to andrew weissmann about how that went down. ♪♪ we begin tonight with settling scores. as we all know by now, retribution is donald trump's goal. today they authorized an impeachment inquiry into president biden. a formal set up they believe will grant them the ability to better enforce their subpoenas in the courts. every single house republican, including scroll neshl republicans in biden districts voted for the inquiry. take note of that, voters. >> on this vote, the yea are 221, the nays are 212.

the resolution is adopted. >> it's based on the same dock maymy conspiracy theory pushed by rudy giuliani the first time. and to be very clear, that is why we're here today. republicans have made no secret of the fact that they want to sully president biden and even the score with their twice-impeached, four-times indicted leader ahead of next year's election. it is important to make clear that despite a lot of trying, house republicans have not found anything to impeach president biden for. as they probe the business dealings of his son, hunter. a point democrats made repeatedly during the floor debate today. >> the biden impeachment investigation isn't a who done it. it's what is it? it's like an egg of the mystery novel, what's the crime? >> i think if we give them enough time he's going to prove that hunter biden is joe biden's

son. >> we're here today not because of any wrong doing by president biden, but because donald trump wants revenge. >> in fact, republicans have spent years investigating allegations related to hunter biden's business dealings in ukraine. note, this is why they hate ukraine. and whether hunter was kicking back cash to his dad. their efforts date back to 2018 under trump's attorney general resulting in not a single piece of evidence linking joe bide on the his son's business. in september, 2020, senators ron johnson and chuck grassley released an 87-page report on this very same topic. and they found, nothing. their report was little more of rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a russian disinformation campaign because, of course, in may of this year during a much publicized press conference, republicans on the house oversight committee released their first report on an investigation into president biden and his family. and concluded that they had yet

to find evidence of a specific corrupt action president biden took in office in connection with any of the business deals his son entered into. i mean, you ask them to show their math or provide evidence, any evidence at all. they openly acknowledge they don't have any. and that this will probably amount to nothing. >> i have no evidence of it. and i'm going to just follow the facts where they are. and the facts haven't taken me to that point where i can say that the president is guilty of anything. >> can you identify any actual policy decisions that joe biden has made in response to getting paid for those policy changes? >> well, we'll have to -- that will be part of the investigation. >> is impeachment dead on arrival in the senate if it gets here? >> depends on what they come up with. i don't know. most likely. >> of course, lindsey. look, you see they can't be bothered with the truth or facts because that isn't the goal. congressional republicans who are trump's de facto legal team merely want to tarnish his political opponent and make

biden and trump all even steven impeachment wise. here is texas congressman troy nells telling a rolling stone reporter why this is so important to republicans. >> representatives, what are you hoping to gain from an impeachment inquiry? >> all i can say is donald j. trump, 2024, baby. >> end scene. reminder special counsel david weiss is not investigating the president. he is investigating his son, hunter. and has indicted him for not paying his taxes on time and buying a gun while he was under the influence. a number of legal experts from both parties have noted that indicting hunter biden for tax evasion when he's already paid his back taxes smacks of unfair treatment. this morning, hunter himself, who was subpoenaed to testify in closed session, publicly called the republican's bluff. on the steps of the capitol, he agreed to testify in public before the judiciary and house ever sight committees. >> i'm here today to make sure that the house committee's

illegitimate investigations of my family do not proceed on distortions, manipulated evidence, and lies. and in the depths of my addiction, i was extremely irresponsible with my finances. but to suggest that is grounds for an impeachment inquiry is beyond the absurd. it's shameless. republicans do not want an open process where americans can see their tactics. expose their baseless inquiry, or hear what i have to say. what are they afraid of? i'm here. i'm ready. >> an offer they have declined even though house oversight committee jarman james comer expressly stated last month that witnesses could choose to either appear in a deposition or a public hearing. in an ironic twist of fate, jim jordan, who openly ignored the

house january 6th request that he appear for a deposition, is threatening hunter biden with contempt for simply doing what he did. >> we're disappointed that he didn't show up. i mean, he was just across the way at the capitol. you think he could have come here and sat for questions. but, look, congress asks you to come, supposed to come and testify. >> the hypocrisy. joining me is now congressman joe naguss from colorado. you saw in that exchange. analyst and chief strategist for the bush/cheney 2004 presidential campaign. representative, let me start with you. did you ever get an answer to your question about what is the crime that the colleagues on the other side of the aisle are preparing to impeach joe biden for? >> no, i never did get an answer. i don't think we're ever going to get an answer, joy. there is no answer. the reality is republicans are pursuing this on behalf of

donald trump, as you articulated so well. an act of political retribution that donald trump has compelled house republicans, ordered house republicans to pursue. and the sycophants they are, they decided to do so. and it's deeply disappointing, but perhaps the most confounding and frustrating part of all of this is that they openly concede that there's no evidence of wrong doing. they have yet to articulate any cogent crime that they are investigating, any connection to the constitutional standard for impeachment. it is, in my view, a deeply flawed distortion of the impeachment process and reflective of the misplaced priorities that house republicans are pursuing right now in the house of prentatives. >> let me read a little bit of the statement out of the white hoe from president biden on this impeachment vote. there's a lot of work to be done, but after wasting weeks trying to find a new sak of the house and expel their own members. republicans are leaving for a

month without doing anything to face these issues. instead of doing athing to help make american's lives better, they're focus on attacking me with lives instead of doing their job and urgent work that needs to be done, they're choosing to waste time on this baseless political stunt that republicans in congress admit is not supported by facts. representative neguse, to come back to you for a moment, what has the house of representatives accomplished in this past session so far this year? >> i hate to answer the question the same way, joy, but the answer is the same. nothing. republicans have been in control of the house for the better part of the last year. and they have nothing to show for it. i couldn't agree more with the president. i share his frustrations. i suspect the vast majority of the american people feel the same way. the last 11.5 months and what has -- the house republican conference achieved? they tried to shut the government down twice. they came very close to a catastrophic default on our national debt. they vacated their own speaker. the only thing of note, of substance they accomplished is

expelling george santos and of course it took democratic votes to achieve that outcome. look, this is extremism on full display. it is symptomatic of, as i said, the extremism that has metastasized in the republican party. and unfortunately it seems as though this is going to continue. they are doing deep damage, in my view, to our republic as a result. >> matthew dowd, let me play for you mike johnson. this is mike johnson in 2019 versus mike johnson now, the current speaker, about how he feels about single-party impeachments. >> the founding fathers, the founders of this country warned against single party impeachments. they said that it would be bitterly divisive, perhaps irreparably divisive for the country. >> majority of the house of representatives go on record, that sends a message. >> the founders of this country warned against a single party impeachment. you know why. you guys know why, because they feared it would bitterly and perhaps irreparably divides our nation. >> we're playing by the same

rules the democrats set. democrats thought this process was fair for president trump, they should think it's fair for president biden. >> i mean, they're kind of telling on themselves, matthew, because the reality is the thing that those two years have in common is that being impeached made trump sad and made him embarrassed so they have to fix that now by embarrassing joe biden with the same tag, the same asterisk. they're literally impeaching -- trying to impeach joe biden because trump is sad and they want the two of them to be on an even scale. am i reading that wrong? >> no. i mean, think about this in a couple of different ways, first, if they were actually interested in good government, and they actually believed that the impeachment of donald trump was wrong, then why wouldn't they fix the process if that's what they believed? fixing the process isn't doing the same thing in their mind. it's basically saying we're not going to do that because we believed it wrong. that would be the natural good government thing to do. the other thing i'll say about

this is, you can also play, but also the hypocrisy they have constantly attack the fbi, the national security council, the justice department and the deep state because they say they're involving themselves in american's lives without evidence of a crime and they're investigating people and they're doing this. and we must put a stop to this deep state and what these law enforcement agencies are doing. what are they doing in the course of this? the analogy i thought of that this reminds me of is that if we were all driving down the highway in a car and somebody -- a cop pulled us over and we said, well, why are you pulling me over? no reason. but i'm going to pull you over. then we said, what evidence do you have that i did anything wrong. none. and then you sit there and look across the highway and there's a 51-car pileup and there's people dying and you're like, why don't you do something about that since you don't know anything that i've done wrong. and they're, no, we'll pay attention to this. and that's what's going on in the world right now. there's a 51-car pileup. there's a democracy under attack

in ukraine. there's a democracy under attack in israel. there is the immigration system that is broken. there's a ton of issues that need to be dealt with, but they want to pull people over for having done nothing with no evidence of a crime. it's utterly -- shows they have no interest in governance. >> they're doing it for the election, right? to your analogy, it would be like that same scenario but then when you ask the cop, i'm pulling you over because i pulled that guy over and we want you to be equal. you know, because he -- that guy got pulled over, so you're getting pulled over despite the pileup over there. >> it would be -- i pulled that guy for going 110 miles an hour and i'm pulling you over -- that other guy was going 110 miles an hour. i mean, the hypocrisy of this is so deep. and the fact that donald trump is facing 91 indictments and joe biden has been -- there's not an evidence of scintilla of evidence he's done anything wrong, but they're still willing to say donald trump is the greatest thing on earth and we

want to support him for president. >> yeah. and you know, representative neguse, the issue here is that donald trump was impeached because he tried to bribe and strong arm a foreign government to get fake data that he could use against joe biden to win an election. then he got impeached again because he tried to foment a coup. i don't know how they think that's the same thing as joe biden lending his son money to pay his car note. but that's literally what they've got so far, right? they've got joe biden loves his son and helped him pay his car note. and so they're saying, well, these two things are the same. coup and trying to bribe ukraine to try to win an election and paying the kid's car note because the guy's car note because he had problems and had drug problems. and then one more thing i want to throw to you representative neguse, jim jordan is now stomping around saying that they might hold hunter biden in contempt if he doesn't show up for subpoena. he wrote a letter to the january 6th committee saying i don't have to do the subpoena. this is unprecedented and

inappropriate demand this request for outside the bound of any legitimate inquiry, blah blah blah. he threw that subpoena on the ground and spat on it. how can he then try to enforce subpoenas? >> yeah, well, two things i would say. first, joy, i agree with you with respect to the complete false equivalency the republicans tried to draw between this baseless impeachment inquiry and the last msnbc that the house conducted, which was a bipartisan impeachment. i was one of the prosecutors in that impeachment. donald trump was impeached on a bipartisan basis for inciting a violent mob to disrupt the electoral college proceedings and subvert the peaceful transfer of power. one of the most serious constitutional crimes that one could conceive of. and as you said, he's been singularly focussed on exacting retribution and ordered house republicans to pursue this revenge. that's what this is all about. now, with respect to chairman jordan, obviously they would like to conduct this inquiry completely in private, behind closed doors. their resolution reflects that. they deleted the phrase open and transparent from the language of

the resolution intentionally, in my view, because they realized that they don't have any evidence and that to the extent these hearings are public, they obviously will not be to their benefit. i agree with you in terms of his efforts to impede the january 6th investigation. it's fairly rich for him now to be making the scene that he has in the last 24 hours, regarding the president's son and his potential testimony. the american people see this for what it is which is political theater. they like to see us get back to governing and addressing some of the challenges that matthew spoke so eloquently about. >> very quickly, matthew dowd. what's going on with the two senators from your home state of texas will not respond to ms. cox being denied an abortion and had to leave the state to get one. they have no thought even though they were federal official. we're just federal so we don't have to talk about it. >> i have an expression that's not meant for television, but they're chicken you know what. and in the course of this

process. they've always been this way. it's unbelievable the trauma and the tragic nature of what happened to that young woman in the course of this. and this is what happens with exception -- with these things that are exceptions that are put in place with extreme unintended consequences. >> yep. indeed. congressman joe neguse and matthew dowd, thank you both very much. up next on "the reidout," in the land of legal argument where trump's attorneys brewed. it's true. whimsical whispers like cindy lu-hoo they complained about a grinch with a legal point of view. "the reidout" continues after this. he reidout" continues afte this when you have chronic kidney disease... ...there are places you'd like to be. like here. and here.

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today an indictment was unsealed. charging donald j. trump with conspireing to defraud the united states, conspireing to disenfranchise voters, and conspireing and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. in this case, my office will seek a speedy trial so that our evidence can be tested in court and judged by a jury of citizens. >> from the outset of that announcement over the summer, the goals of special counsel jack smith and donald trump became very clear. for smith, it was to hold the principle that no one is above the law. for trump, it was to delay, delay, delay. this week, smith called trump's bluff by requesting an expedited review by the supreme court of trump's claims of absolute immunity. a request that the court has

agreed to at least consider. trump's team has until next wednesday to respond to the special counsel's request. we have a preview of what that timing might look like, given that today was the deadline for trump's team to respond to the same request by the special counsel in the u.s. district court of appeals where this case would have normally moved to next if not for smith's request to go to the supreme court. in trump's filing, his lawyers claim that an expedited review would violate trump's due process rights and somehow irreparably undermine public confidential in the judicial system and claim that an expedited consideration would inflict harm on the public's first amendment rights because of the planned timing of the trial's march 4th start date. quote, the potential trial is likely to last for months, and it will thus inevitably interfere with the ability of american voters to hear from the leading presidential candidate at the height of the campaign interrogation of their first amendment right to receive his

speech. special counsel's team quickly responded to that filing, claiming that none of the arguments made has any merit and added the need for expedition has heightened importance here. not only because of the nature of the issues, but because of the defendant's appeal because the defendant's appeal suspends trial proceedings until the appeal is resolved. and breaking just in the last hour, the u.s. district court of appeals has granted the special counsel's request to expedite trump's presidential immunity appeal. that appeal will move forward as the supreme court considers whether it will hear the case. trump's opening brief is due in court ten days -- in court in ten days on december 23rd. joining me now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, msnbc legal analyst and co-post of prosecuting donald trump podcast. we did miss out on able to miss out horton hear's a who, how the

grinch stole christmas argument that was being made in this filing by trump's team, which literally quoted how the grinch stole christmas, claiming that, oh no, they were going to try to make us work over the holidays, over christmas and that sort of thing, even though, you know, the holidays didn't prevent donald trump from harassing mike pence to overturn the election and working to overturn the election in 2020. your thoughts on how this is all going. >> sure. well, there's a lot of news going on. and there's sort of two parallel tracks. there's the track as you mentioned, joy, in the supreme court where the court has basically asked for donald trump's positions. and we'll see whether the supreme court leapfrogs the d.c. circuit. but what has happened today, just minutes before your show, is, as you noted, the d.c. circuit, which was asked by the -- by jack smith to expedite its appeal because it basically was saying, you know what, we

can't take any risks. we either need the circuit to act quickly or we need to supreme court to act quickly. well, the circuit did act quickly in spite of donald trump's comments about the grinch stealing christmas. the court said this is going to be fully briefed by both sides by january 2nd. all parties will have all of their papers in to the court by january 2nd, so this could be heard by the court as soon as the 3rd. as soon as it's fully briefed. so they clearly are expediting it. you know, my tea leaf reading is it puts a little less pressure on the supreme court to act quickly. they may just decide to let d.c. issue its decision. they clearly are moving very, very quickly. and that way they can sort of hold an abeyance the jack smith request and then if they want to take the case, they are sort of poised to jump as soon as the d.c. circuit rules. but this is a very good

development for jack smith because it clearly shows both courts are listening. >> so just to clarify, just for the audience, so that means that now the d.c. circuit seems that they are not open to the argument that, you know, you've got to slow this down because donald trump's rights are being violated by making him rushy, rushy. that that sort of previews that they probably would rule for jack smith, meaning that the supreme court could take a bion it. you know, let's let whatever they do stand. >> yeah. absolutely. and just to make a fine point about how absurd donald trump's arguments is about not wanting this decided quickly. donald trump's point to the district court and on appeal is that he says i'm immune from even being indicted. that i should not be charged. he should want that to be decided immediately because he's saying i'm harmed every single minute that i am under indictment. my rights are being violated.

by the same token, he is telling the court, oh, but take your time deciding this. it is completely inconsistent. >> and it's clear that the reason they're doing that is that he's hoping to drag this out, become president and order his justice department to just throw the whole case out. we can see through what he's doing. the other argument that was in this briefing from the trump side, which i found extraordinary, was that he's still making this fundamental argument that everything he did on january 6th and leading up to it was part of his job as president and he cites could george w. bush be indicted for lawing about the iraq war. like he's trying to essentially say i'm just like every other president. but what he was doing was not even waging war. which we can disagree with president's waging war. he was trying to stay president. like how is that your duties? >> yeah. i mean, absolutely. and the d.c. circuit in a civil case decided just a couple weeks

ago said not everything that you do while you're president is part of your presidential functions. when you are running for office, when you are seeking to become president again, that is not a presidential duty. so, if you are committing crimes as part of your campaign to stay in office, that is not something within the function of the office of the white house. so that decision by the d.c. circuit bodes very well for jack smith and not so good obviously for donald trump. you know, all of this i have to say is -- you're probably looking at me going, doesn't this make a lot of common sense? and it's all dressed up in legal language. and the answer to that is right. you know, it really cannot be the case that just because you're president of the united states that you can kill somebody or you can just decide to -- could you imagine what this would mean? can you really have a second

term where the president who was told, by the way, you have absolute immunity to commit crimes in office. just cannot be the case. >> especially with donald trump, who would do that. he would then commit all the crimes because he committed them while he was in office the first time. andrew weissmann, it's always a pleasure. thank you very much. more good news on inflation today. but what about greed-flation? corporations lying about their costs to pad their own profit margins. any relief from that on the horizon? maybe in your stocking? we'll find out next. l dual actin fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. (christmas music) ( ♪♪ ) weathertech gift cards have the power to wow everyone on your holiday list. offering a variety of american made products... weathertech! nice! like floorliners... cargo liner... seat protector...

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today, the federal reserve announced that for the third time in a row they will not be raising interest rates while also signaling three cuts next year. a sign that the cycle of rate hikes may finally be over. it comes on the heels of several encouraging economic reports regarding unemployment,sume spending, wages, as well as inflation. this week, new data from the bureau of labor statistic shows that in november the pace of inflation slowed to 3.1%, a huge improvement from the same time last year when prices were rising at a pace of 7.1%. but even with inflation cooling, you may be asking yourself when you're out shopping or at the grocery store, why are prices so much higher than they were pre-pandemic? especially as companies are raking in massive multibillion dollar profits? well, the answer could be a little something called

greed-flation. the idea that corporaare to make more money.e inflation just last week a study of more than 1300 corporations across the globe foundhat company profits rose by 30% between 2019 and 2022, significantly outpacing inflation, particularly within the oil, gas and food production sectors. and this is not a new phenomenon. earlier this month, the federal jury ruled that some of the biggest egg manufacturers in the country conspired to limit the supply of eggs in order to increase their prices between 2004 and 2008. joining me now is ally velshi. i'm so excited about the chance to talk economy with you. i always love doing this. so let's do this. >> yep. >> so, greed-flation, i think it's a thing. cfos saying, oh my god, we're making so much money. >> they always do this. >> but are they just profit taking.

>> well, look, just take a look at this. profits are high. the stock market is at the highest point it's ever been. the stock market is a reflection in theory of how much money a company makes. and you pay a multiple of that for the stock price. so everything is going well. there are some companies that are pretending we're sort of in a recession, but we're absolutely not. the problem with inflation is once you get people used to the concept, which we've done now for the last year and a half, the expectation is that prices will go higher. eggs are really the best example. there was a massive increase in the price of eggs. and you know, we see this again with gas and things like that. but some of that was real. some of that was a supply chain backup, things like that that happened during covid. but most of it is actually solved at this point, by the way, thanks to this administration. now we're back to normal prices, but you, the consumer, have been convinced that prices are higher. prices should be higher. i have this conversation all the time with people who keep telling me about prices. we now have wages going up because we've got 3.7% unemployment, your wages are

actually up higher than inflation at this point. and people still believe that inflation is the most dangerous thing to their prosperity at this moment. as long as they believe that, you can keepng prices. >> the thing is that you got this sort of disconnect, people are saying the economy is terrible, but they're spending like record amounts. all of this story saying people are spending record amounts on travel, record amounts for the holidays. and yet people say, the economy is terrible. >> yes. >> all the metrics say it's good. >> yes. >> the reason they're saying that is because they actually can't afford their lives because prices aren't going down. >> right. let's look at the measures of why you should be feeling good or bad about the economy. the single most important thing is jobs. right? we have a 3.7% unemployment rate. i bet the first 20 years of my career as an economics journalist thinking that 5%as full employment. doesn't goow that. 3.. what does that do? it raises wages. which is a good thing. wages are up. look at the difference between january 2021 and november 2023,

3.7%. >> yeah. >> so the rate is down. wages are up. that's great. wages are up more than inflation. should be feeling good. stock market, dow hit an all-time record today, the s&p 500 and nasdaq, that will look like your 401(k). that's at record levels. we have high mortgage rates a the moment, 8%. the fed said today maybe they'll cut rates three times next year. so it's all good. and there's a measure of consumer sentiment measured by the university of michigan. and for the first time it's showing more consumers are positive about the economy moving forward than negative. i think, joy, we probably have a two or three month lag here see wages go up more than inflation and people will start to chill out and feel a little better about it. >> and the other thing i would say, too, is that the people who are the most price sensitive and economically sensitive are younger people, right? younger people are the most mad at joe biden for many, many reasons but one of the things you hear people say is under trump i got more money. they're talking about the stimi

that trump delayed to put his big fat signature on it and pretend he did it when nancy pelosi sent you the stimi. is it just the simple act of signing those checks? >> it was very important to him to have his signature on those checks. ironically, it was after the trump administration ended, the biden administration came dom and we ended up with a really significant stimulus that some people tell me is the reason for inflation. but that's the thing that got everybody going. that got this economy going. by the way, you always want the economy to get a little hotter than do it the other way around, be short. we're dealing with that now. but we've got a lot of jobs. we have a strong economy. at some point people will start to feel better about it. it's not perfect. still a lot that needs to be fixed. but we're actually fixing it. >> there you go. and also, the economy was bad during trump because trump lied about covid and made the economy crash. it's his fault. any way, ali velshi, thank you, my friend. much appreciated. still ahead, is the growing

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u.s. voting against it. this comes as israel's attacks on gaza have continued to intensify and they have started to flood hamas tunnels with sea water. gaza is at a crisis point with the u.n. warning that at least half the palestinian population in the densely populated strip is stvi. u.n. relief and work agency commissioner said today, quote, civil order is breaking down. and to call the scene's witnessed in gaza inhumane is an understatement. there are also concerns about the water-born diseases as gaza runs out of clean water. and children's vaccinations have run out completely. 80% of palestinians in gaza have been displaced from their homes and heavy winter rains have create what had the u.n. calls a living hell, flooding tent cities. nbc news spokes to a woman in rafah tent city who had no access to drinking water and her tent was flooded. >> why are our children not like

the rest of the world's children. what is their differm us? we are human beings. >> it's worth noting that the 135 hostages still in gaza are facing the same treacherous conditions. and as the war rages on, there are also some palestinians living in gaza who expressed frustration with the war hamas has brought upon them. today, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that israel will keep fighting until hamas is destroyed. appearing to double down after president biden said at a fundraiser yesterday that israel is starting to lose international support due to the, quote, indiscriminate bombing that takes place. and netanyahu, quote, needs to change his government. the comes as biden is facing a divided country at home with protests calling for a cease fire on one side but also a congress that censured its only palestinian american member representative rashida tlaib for her rhetoric criticizing israel and calling for palestinian freedom in an ad using the slogan from the river to the

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with netanyahu, and i want to make sure that we don't forget what we are doing here. we have to support israel because they are an independent nation that witnessed brutality, the inhumanity, the way in which hamas treated the israelis. i think that we have made it clear to the israelis, and they are aware that the safety of innocent palestinians is still of great concern. >> that was president biden yesterday attempting to strike a balance between support of israel and protecting palestinian lives. joining me now is congressman rashida tlaib of michigan and congresswoman cori bush of missouri. thank you both for being here. i do want to start with you

congresswoman, i want to ask about your family, who are in the west bank. how are they doing? >> i think that they have lived under occupation for so long, they know now, they see that the work is turning their back on gaza, and it's heartbreaking for them. they continue to tell me of instability and the violence within the west bank has just escalated, to the point where, they live in complete fear, always checking upon each other, making sure that folks know where they are going, whether they're coming back from work. it's this constant, again, not feeling completely safe. >> i want to take you back to a moment, the reason that we wanted to talk with you. this was a day that you are censured, they wore at home, as we call the. you are censured on the house floor. take a look at what you said at the time. >> palestinian people are not disposable.

[crying] we are human beings, just like anyone else. they cries of the palestinian and israeli children saw no different to me. what, i don't understand, is why the cries of palestinians sound different to you all. >> i can see behind you, you're surrounded by your fellow members of the caucus, your friends. more than 20 democrats voted with republicans to censure you. did any have a conversation with you. you are so emotional and as much to say about your family, did anyone talk to you? >> a handful. i was completely heartbroken, i did not know that they were going to stand with the fascist

side at the aisle and silence at the only person the american, even after we have had heart to her conversations, where i tell them that i have as much at stake as any other person that continues to believe in certain policies, when it comes to israel and palestine, because my family is there. my perspective is needed more than ever. i continue to say, i have an open door policy, come talk to me. i believe in -- i am going that way. i really do. i believe that we can have a country that was like when my grandparents were born, odyssey, where every faith was welcome, where microfiber picked olives from his jewish neighbor. that is the job that i have for the palestinian and israeli people. i know that we will be doing that, but not with silencing a palestinian american in congress. >> congresswoman bush, you have been stalwart and with their colleague congresswoman tlaib. talk about the atmosphere right now inside the democratic

caucus. there is a lot of friction being reported, a lot of people saying, we will not support biden, there's a lot of friction inside the party. what is it like inside the caucus right now? >> you know, you have people who are, and i will say it, keeping their distance, from us, in some ways, but the numbers, initially, it seems like we were all we had, but every day, it seems like things are starting to open up, that we're starting to have more conversations. i will say that, within the caucus, we still have people who believe in, not a cease-fire. it's not the time it, or we want a regional cease-fire, a bilateral cease-fire, using all terms to like separate. it's cease fire. now what we are saying is that a cease-fire is all parties coming together. all we want is, regardless of

what words to put in front of it, stop the indiscriminate bombing now, and we will continue to have that message. i think people are starting to see though, that because the world has come along, we're talking about even in this country, with the king center, the carter center, the pope is saying, cease-fire, when, yesterday, the vote, finally, the u.n. general assembly vote for a cease-fire, i think folks are starting to see. we have seen global edition around the world, people on the streets. we see that one almost 80% of democrats in the country are saying that they want a cease-fire, so people are starting to change in our caucus. it's not enough. we need more, because how do we stop the mass casualties that are happening in gaza with how the leaders being the ones to lead. >> i wonder if there has been a conversation with the white house, the white house has been

-- particularly from the river to see language. a lot of people on college campuses use that language of. i want to give you an opportunity to explain what that means. >> many of my folks, many of my residents, since they were children, they would say that -- right? this was a call for liberation. i remembered because a rhymed. it was about true liberation, about coexistence. it was about loving peace and coming together. so many of my residents did not even know that folks thought of it as a different way. we actually heard folks tried to vilify more. again, for me, to try to police -- to me, as a palestinian, and they know where my heart is, but again, they weaponized it to try to silence me. >> i wonder if the white house heads have reached out as well. it does seem like joe biden is some what modulating is them.

has there been any outrage? >> we reached out to the white house, and there were other members of congress who reached out to the white house, when we were called putting in and disgraceful, when we initially called for a cease-fire. we have yet to have the conversation. we keep asking for it. we want some clarity on exactly what they meant by that. but, no, there has not been outreach directly. we are speaking with our white house liaisons, know exactly why we would keep the stance, why we decided to have a vigil on the steps of the u.s. capitol, one that was to mourn and grieve the lives of israelis and palestinians with the house only mourning the lives of israelis. we'll keep pushing, >> the dehumanization continues. when i reached out to the white house about is, hey you said this, this will increase hit towards palestinians. >> we are at a time.