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oath at the last moment? now his defamation trial is one step closer to wrapping up, while the former mayor could be one step closer to even deeper financial ruin. plus, chilling words from overseas, hamas terrorists arrested while plotting attacks across northern europe. the latest on their targets and fears that the threats could continue to spread. and house republicans go all in on evidence-free impeachment proceedings, are they risking their power on a political roll of the dice. we begin with those jury deliberations that could start any moment now in rudy giuliani's defamation trial. earlier giuliani abruptly dropping plans to testify on his own behalf, even though millions of dollars are potentially at stake. just days ago, the former mayor insisted his testimony would prove that the lies he told about election workers ruby freeman and shaye moss weren't lies after all. but by yesterday afternoon, it

seemed giuliani was already walking that back. >> when i testify, you'll get the whole story, and it will be definitively clear that what i said was true. >> are you going to testify tomorrow? >> i intend to, but -- >> what does that mean? >> you always leave them guessing. >> we should remind folks, giuliani has already been found liable for defaming moss and freeman. the question before the jury is how much it should cost him. the women's attorney told jurors today freeman and moss should each be awarded $24 million. i want to bring in nbc's ryan reilly who's following the trial for us. peter baker is the "new york times" chief white house correspondent and an msnbc political analyst, harry litman is a former deputy assistant attorney general. good to have all of you here. so ryan, giuliani told us earlier this week that when he got the chance to testify, we would hear -- and i'm quoting him -- the whole story about his allegations.

so what happened? >> reporter: yeah, i think his lawyer finally got through to him. him testifying was not going to go well and would end up putting additional money on the reward that they're eventually going to be finding here. you know, because he cannot let go of this big lie, right? he still believes this. it's very clear by his statement this is week that he still believes these false claims because of something he read on a crazy right wing conspiracy website about these two election workers that he defamed. so even though he acknowledged, you know, months ago in the court document that for the purposes of the litigation he was acknowledging that he made these false inflame tor statements, that's not what was in his head. his lawyer actually during his closing statement said that mr. giuliani was, quote a good man but had not done himself any favors in the last few days given his conduct in court. the attorney had not really had

control of what rudy giuliani was saying to reporters outside the courthouse. the judge is instructing the jurors here and eight jurors will get together and decide what amount of damage they're going to give over in this case and the extent of impact that had on two election workers' lives. >> this is a man, as we know, facing financial ruin. he has already said he's pretty much broke. his lawyer claims that a big award is the civil equivalent of the death penalty. yet, when he had a chance to testify, he decided not to. how do you think a jury will see this? what are those conversations like in your experience and your knowledge about making these kinds of awards? >> it's a complete nightmare for him and his lawyer. he gave his lawyer literally nothing. remember, it's not just he didn't testify. he stone walled the entire time in refusing orders to turn over any of his financial

information. it does seem like he doesn't have two dimes to rub together, and he's just basically, you know, a deadbeat who's just hoping for the best here and maybe trying to resist it up the line. a jury is likely to react with contempt to his not coming forward, what his lawyer was forced to say is we didn't have him testify because these pour women have been through enough. i don't think that's going to be very credible with the eight persons, and they're now just looking with nothing whatsoever to consider from giuliani at the sky is the limit. he's just a complete broken man at this point. >> peter, it sure seems like giuliani is following a playbook from people like donald trump and jenna ellis, and sidney powell, they keep telling lies publicly. but then when it comes to getting on the stand under oath and being questioned, that is not something they want to do,

but do you get any sense within trump world that that's changing the minds of people who remain proponents of the big lie? >> well, like you say, i mean, when you go in front of a camera on the courthouse steps and may not tell the truth to the news media, there's no penalty, at least legal penalty. if you say it under oath, obviously there is, and so you know, take what you will of that, but obviously people are recognizing there is more of a bonus to tell the truth in court than the media, i don't know that it's had any effect. look, we have seen time and time again that supporters of donald trump and the people around him have managed to see things through the lens that donald trump has provided to them, the lens being -- this is all politicized. this is all about getting him because he is a great president or what have you. and there's been nothing so far that has cracked that, you know, that base, that support for him. every time they come after him

in court, it's written off as part of this larger conspiracy that he has portrayed against him and of course that would, you know, fit with his people around him as well, they're coming after giuliani because they're coming after me and so forth. you've already had here a judgment. the judgment is that rudy giuliani did this. the only question, how much he has to pay for it. we've already had the same thing in donald trump's civil trial on friday. he's already been found by a judge to have committed fraud against the banks by giving false estimates of his assets. the only question is how much he's going to have to pay for it. >> that leads us to the question, obviously, harry, of have you come to a decision about what these women have been through, what it's worth and her lawyer, ruby freeman's lawyer said -- and i'm quoting here, that she got a message saying we are coming for you and your family, ms. ruby. safest place for you right now is prison or you will swing from the trees.

another message said, ruby freeman, hope federal government hangs you and your daughter from the capitol dome. i pray that i will be sitting close enough to hear your necks snap. freeman testified and i think this might even be an understatement, that she was terrorized and scared. she said she still wears a mask. she doesn't want anybody to know what her name is, sometimes she forgets what name she's using, and then a social media expert testified that to give them their reputation back, however you can do that, could cost as much as $48 million. how do juries generally look at things like this? >> can you imagine, how they generally look at it is they evaluate the plaintiffs arguments and then they get the arguments on the other side from the defendant. he only has such and such money. it wasn't so bad or whatever, but they've given him nothing. i can't emphasize enough what a

complete bankrupt legally, factually, politically figure giuliani now is. so the sky is the limit. they have nothing to -- you have the plaintiff lawyer saying he needs to -- you need to send a message, powerful people can't just mess with people's lives this way. you have her saying i had to move, the fbi told me to, and you have his lawyer saying, oh, he's not so bad. maybe compensate them, but not so much. i mean, they have nothing to hold onto even if they wanted to, which i very much doubt they do. so i think that room is going to be talking about the sky's the limit. he's given them nothing to temper it at all, and his strategy, such as it is, is completely puzzling. he's going to get clobbered, and he's asking for it. >> and the facts of the case are that a couple of different investigations showed that nothing that he said was true. there was no proof for his

specious allegations. i want to play a little more, though, of what rudy giuliani said last night after dark. >> the truth will come out. the truth will come out. i didn't say when, so it will come out. >> it will come out very, very shortly. >> it's been three years. >> as you know, ryan, because you've been there, the judge said giuliani just can't keep arguing claims that he's already admitted essentially were false. i mean, what happens if he does? are we expecting to see potentially while the jury is deliberating him come out and make some comments on the steps? >> reporter: i mean, yeah, you can't stand in between rudy giuliani and a camera because you're going to get run over, right? he is very much interested in the media and can't resist it when we sort of ask him questions. the thing that really sticks out to me is he could be repairing some of this damage if he wanted to, right? he could be out here saying that, oh, man, i really screwed up. i lied about these people.

i told falsehoods about these people. i'm sorry. i'm apologetic. he's not doing that. he's choosing to continue to perpetuate these lies about these two individuals who once again, clear as day, did absolutely nothing wrong and had their lives destroyed and torn apart because of these lies that were spread about him on the internet which were all based on racism. a lot of this was them centering on these cities where they thought something was untoward going on, and in reality it was just sort of the normal voting process and people not understanding how the voting process works. i think you'll end up with a significant penalty bimpod by t >> so peter, let us not forget giuliani is here because he believes joe biden is an illegitimate president and people like ruby freeman and shaye moss helped him pull off, i don't know, some kind of scam, right? and i'm wondering if you think or you hear that democrats see a way to use this to keep the big lie front and center as we move into the next campaign season

next year. we know from polling that preserving democracy does matter to voters. >> well, there's a debate going on among democrats as to how best to approach this, right? on the one hand, the president himself, president biden does not want to be out there commenting on especially criminal cases, but even some of these civil cases because it will feed into, they believe, the narrative that former president trump is trying to sell his base, which is all about biden going after his biggest challenger next year. he doesn't to want give any ammunition to trump who makes this argument anyway fact free. so you're not going to hear the president talk that much about this at this point, but there's a lot of consternation i think within the democratic party. you do hear some strategists talking about he should be talking about this morning. you did hear the president talk in the last few days reminding voters, former president trump talked about being a dictator on day one and talk about what that meant. there's a real debate among democrats as to how much you

focus on that versus the economy or abortion rights or other issues, and it's -- you know, they think that these issues will be front and center because obviously we'll be covering them as various court cases are played out. but the question is whether or not the president and his allies need to do more to talk about them and explain to voters what they mean. >> peter baker, ryan reilly, and harry litman, thank you, gentlemen, much appreciated. suspected hamas operatives arrested in europe, the israeli, jewish, and western targets they were aiming to strike. we've got it in 60 seconds. in s t small communities can achieve. trying to give a better life to people that don't have the means to do it. si mi papá estuviera vivo, sé que él tuviera orgulloso también de vivir de esta viviendo una vida como la que estamos viviendo ahora. es electricidad aquí es salud.

right now there's new urgency in the challenge facing the israeli government which has promised to wipe hamas off the map. today several new arrests of suspected hamas terrorists have been made across europe. i want to bring in nbc's meagan fitzgerald. what more are we hearing? >> chris, we're putting information together from two

different police and intelligence forces here. here's what we know. several people across germany, denmark, and the netherlands have been arrested today accused of plotting terror attacks in europe. officials in denmark say three people were arrested there, one in the netherlands. the danish prime minister calling the situation as serious as it gets. now, in germany, state prosecutors there say four suspected members of hamas have been arrested, one in the netherlands and three in berlin. german prosecutor saying one of those members was searching for this underground stash of weapons in europe. investigator there is believe those weapons were supposed to be taken to berlin to then be used in a potentialerrost attack. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's oreleing a statement i want to read for you in part which says, hamas strives to expand its ional capabilities around the world and inope, in particular in order to realize it ambitions to hit israeli, jewish, and western targets at any cost.

we strengthen our partners in ielligence and security bodies in denmark for the successful countermeasures that culminated today with the realization of the arrests and the extensive exposure of hamas infrastructure on european soil. so chris, this is certainly a developing story that we continue to stay on top of. >> nbc's meagan fitzgerald, thank you. we've got some fascinating insights today for the first time since the invasion of ukraine. vladimir putin held his annual press conference and call-in show. it's a rare, though heavily curated opportunity for the russian public and media to question their leader who recently announced his campaign for re-election. the kremlin says with no evidence, that the russian president has about an 80% approval rating. over the course of hours, putin touched on topics from the end game in ukraine, the state of the russian economy and normalizing relations with the west. nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons is reporting from moscow.

what are your big takeaways here, keir? >> reporter: well, chris, he talked about normalizing relations with the west, but didn't suggest that that was very likely. he blamed the west for it. much of what he said was the same things that he's been saying for the past two years. the two years in which we've seen so much bloodshed in ukraine. i mean, this was an uncompromising president putin talking about victory will be ours, saying that they want to demilitarize ukraine as the kremlin describes it, saying that still, despite everything claiming that russia has more than 600,000 troops along the front line in ukraine. there was a suggestion, chris, that he would be prepared to talk to the u.s. about those prisoners being held here, evan gershkovich, the journalist for "the wall street journal" accused of espionage, which he and the newspaper denies.

he's being held in pretrial detention. paul whelan who has been convicted, again, absolutely denies the allegations against him, being held in prison here in russia. he was asked by a very brave "new york times" reporter about whether or not the claim by the u.s. that there have been proposals that russia rejected, whether or not that was correct. take a listen. >> translator: well, it's not that we decline to send them home, no. we want to come to terms and these agreements must be mutually acceptable and should be okay for both of the parties and we have contacts with our american partners on that. we're in touch with them, and we pursue dialogue. it is not at all easy. >> reporter: i guess, chris, that could be seen as a glimmer

of hope for the administration and the families, really only a glimmer, because we don't know what the russians are demanding if they were to discuss some kind of deal, and we haven't been told that by the u.s. administration either, so you get the feeling with that and with so much here in moscow that president biden is saying he's prepared to talk, but the devil is in the detail and he doesn't appear to be changing any of his maximalist goals. >> and keir, while you were getting your information out there, we got information from matt miller. he of course is a state department spokesman. he's briefing. he was asked about the statement by putin to which he responded the u.s. very much wants a deal, but if vladimir putin serious about all this, all he has to do is look at the proposals securing his release, which were significant proposals made in good faith and the willingness

of the united states should bring both paul and evan home. the skepticism from the u.s. government. mean meantime, in the coming election, we talked about the approvals there in russia for vladimir putin. he's almost certain to extend his tenure as russian leader, already the longest sing stalin, but he does have a challenger, right? >> he does, we interviewed a long-time politician who says he wants to stand against president putin in the elections in march throughout the entire time he's opposed president putin's so-called special military operation in ukraine. he still opposes it. he opposes the stronger ties with china that president putin has inaugurated, but clearly, president putin's going to be elected next year when he stands for election. there are those critics, of course, who question the

viability of the elections here. the polling that we have, the independent polling that we have does indicate strong support for president putin. i'll give you another example on that polling, chris, which just tells you something about where we stand right now. russians, according to that polling are increasely interested in peace talks. around half of them, but asked whether or not they would be prepared to give up territory in those talks, around two-thirds say they wouldn't. so you can have talks, but are they going to be meaningful? that's a real question right now, and of course on the ukrainian side too, president zelenskyy determined to continue with kyiv's aims. so you've got to say right now it doesn't look as if we are in anything other than the continued fighting in ukraine. >> that will go into year three in february. keir simmons, thank you so much. reporting from moscow for us. right now house republicans are in lock step on the biden impeachment inquiry, but have they opened a political

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house republicans are now all in on a risky political gamble pursuing impeachment against president biden without any proof. the house vote to formalize an inquiry is certain to shore up their base, but it could threaten their members in competitive districts and even generate some sympathy for the president. yet, as every single republican is now on record, voting to push forward with this and every

democrat against the overarching decision moves into the court of public opinion. a new poll shows the public may be just as split as congress over this. an npr, pbs maris college survey finds 48% of registered voters approve of the inquiry by house republicans, 49d % disapprove. that follows multiple polls showing few americans believe president biden did anything illegal. 35% in an ap poll, 40% in a fox news poll. nbc's ryan nobles is reporting for us from capitol hill, kelly o'donnell is at the white house. also joining us former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. good to see you all. what happens next, ryan? >> republicans are now going to have to basically speed up this investigation to put it in a position where they can release a report that definitively shows some evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor by the president, joe biden, that is worthy of

articles of impeachment, and this is a bar now that they have set for themselves. it's very unlikely. it's hardly ever happened that you launch an impeachment inquiry without then taking that next step of articles of impeachment. if they don't take that step, the president and the white house's campaign could argue that they essentially launched an investigation that's been going on for several years, and determined that there wasn't enough evidence to move forward and essentially exonerating him. that's the impeachment piece of this. there's also the lingering issue as it relates to the president's son hunter biden who defied a season yesterday. he wants to testify publicly. the committee's asked him to testify behind closed doors. they say they're prepared to move to a contempt of congress charge against the president's son hunter biden. that will likely take place right when they return from the holiday recess at the beginning of january. that requires a report to be filed. it needs to move through committee before it is then voted on by the entire house.

so that contempt of congress charge likely happens first. then the investigation speeds up before they move to articles of impeachment sometime in the early part of next year, chris. >> what's the level of confidence at the white house and the campaign by the president himself that he will be exonerated. >> reporter: well, as ryan just laid out, the political traps here are plentiful, and so they believe that on the evidence that the president has done nothing that would cause any members of the house and then ultimately if there were an impeachment, there's a senate trial to try to move to remove him from office or to sanction, censure him with the weight of impeachment, which of course has happened so few times in our history and carries a real political negative obviously. so the white house is arguing -- and the president has said this is just about lies that he has done nothing wrong, and that this is a way for republicans to avoid accountability for what they have not done on behalf of the american people.

so we're at a time where the white house is trying to negotiate with lawmakers on things like aid for israel, ukraine, money for the border, changes in border policy, and at the same time, there is this political investigation driven by republicans that is trying to find answers to questions that have persisted in the minds of conservatives as being an area where the president has more to account for. but for democrats and those who support the president, they see this as purely a stunt and a way to gum up the works and in some ways, going into the political year of re-election for the president, a way to diffuse some of the legal problems that donald trump has, which are on a very different scale and very different level. but of course we all lived through his impeachment twice, not convicted in the senate but impeached by the house. chris. >> so charlie, what are the chances you think this backfires on republicans, or is it possible chuck todd has argued this, that it might not matter a whit. he writes this, quote, voters

will see this as just another political fight because somewhere along the way, impeachment became just another political campaign tactic, like getting out the vote, filing an ethics complaint or launching a tv ad. how do you view it? >> yeah, i tend to agree with chuck that many voters are just viewing this as just another political action, and you may remember when the democrats impeached donald trump the first time in 2019, there wasn't a whole lot of blowback against democrats for that. i don't think there will be a lot of blowback against republicans for this. having said that, i don't think it's a particularly good look for house republicans. they've had a tough year. it took them forever to elect a speaker. then the speaker was removed, and then it took them a long time to elect another speaker. they don't have a functional majority to begin with, and you know, they haven't, you know, completed the appropriations process. in january and february, the ukraine funding is still very

much in doubt of the border. it looks like they're dealing with this very political action of impeachment, when they're not getting other important work done that voters probably care about, and so this is a real issue, but this impeachment inquiry to me, it's like a rocket launch. you know, once you launch the rocket, there's no calling it back. it seems like they're hell bent on impeachment, if you're a swing district republican, right now, those 18 seats that republicans hold in the house, i can't imagine you'd want to be talking about this back home in your district. when all these other important issues are left unaddressed. >> so let me propose another way of looking at this, charlie. we know republicans unanimously approved this inquiry, even ken buck who said a day earlier who said he was leaning towards no, voting yes. and 17 republicans in districts biden won voted yes. but can you vote yes yesterday, and the next time vote no and say to your constituents, trying to appeal to both sides, yes, i

thought it was worth an inquiry, but in the end, we just didn't find enough to rise to that level. >> well, yes, you can vote for the inquiry and vote no on the actual impeachment. i don't think it's particularly likely, but again, republicans don't have a very -- they don't have much of a margin to deal with here. you know, they're losing kevin mccarthy at the end of the year, santos was just expelled, so they have virtually no margin for error, so i wouldn't be shocked if a few republicans say we're just not going to vote for this impeachment, this inquiry doesn't rise to the level of an impeachment. they haven't been able to make the case to impeach joe biden. they made a great case to impeach hunter biden. hunter biden's not a federal official, long story short, republicans bring up an impeachment vote if there are not votes to pass it. that's a great question. it would not be smart to do that. i could see few members, ken buck has been very clear, don bacon made some comments the other day too, he didn't see this rise to the level of

impeachment, there may be others. i think this is a very risky strategy on the part of the gop to move forward, particularly if it appears they don't have the votes to impeach. >> ryan, do you think the speaker would bring it for a vote if they weren't sure they had the votes to do it. >> i think that would be very unlikely, chris, but the other thing i would tell you about this particular congress and it points to congressman dent's alluding to the fact that they've been particularly ungovernable is that sometimes they just are unable to whip the vote. they are unable to really conclusively determine whether or not they have enough votes, so is there a world where they put a motion like this on the floor and it ultimately doesn't pass, that is not impossible, but i do think it is very unlikely that he does not bring a measure like this, particularly articles of impeachment, unless he knows definitively that he has all the votes in his corner. so that raises the other potential possibility here, chris, is that they just let this linger. they say that the investigation is ongoing, they're continuing to uncover new evidence.

they present some of that evidence but without drawing specific conclusions and let it bleed in past the election so that the specter of an impeachment hangs over the white house and the president without moving to those formal articles of impeachment. that's a possibility. it could happen, but then again, that may still be a net benefit for joe biden because he can say they've had a long time to investigate me and they still haven't been able to come up with something that's worthy of articles of impeachment. >> yeah, if there's one thing we've learned for sure this year, anything can happen with that congress. ryan noble, kelly o'donnell, former congressman charlie dent, thank you all. the trump trial in d.c. was on track to potentially wrap up before the election. now, why the whole thing is up in the air and in the hands of the supreme court. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ansing reports" only on msnbc ♪to my astonishment.♪ ♪my doc gave me a script i got it done without a delay.♪ ♪i screened with cologuard and did it my way.♪ cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer

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the federal election interference case against former president trump is officially on pause, putting his march 4th trial date in jeopardy. a judge has halted all proceedings until the supreme court decides whether it will take up trump's claim that he's entitled to absolute immunity for anything he did while president. trump's attorney is comparing special counsel jack smith to the grior trying to expedite the appeals process ring the holidays writing in a filing, quote, it is as if the special counsel growled with his grinch fingers nervously drumming. i must find some way to keep christmas from coming.

nbc's ken dilanian is following this for us, also with me former federal prosecutor, professor at georgetown school of law, msnbc legal analyst paul butler. we'll get back to the grinch, but ken, what happens now? what does the timing look like for this case? >> it's unclear, chris. this is a really consequential moment in this case in terms of the timing and whether it gets to trial as scheduled in march or sometime around that date. and a lot depends on what the u.s. supreme court decides to do here because they could decide to take this case and then the separate briefings scheduled at the d.c. appeals court has set, that goes away because it goes right to the supreme court. the supreme court, though, could also decide to let it play out in the appeals court, and that will take some time, and then the supreme court would then get the case and that could take more time and before we know it we don't have a trial in march anymore. in 1974 when the water gate

special prosecutor was trying to get those oval office tapes from richard nixon, it took the supreme court three weeks to decide that case, and in the famous bush v. gore election case, it just took four days move, but right now we wait and see what they do, chris. >> so paul, in the 16-page filing, trump's lawyers argued that a reckless rush to judgment would irreparably undermine public confidence in the justice system, the judicial system. can or should part of the consideration be the damage trump has done to the confidence in the judicial system with his own frequent attacks. what do you make of that argument? >> such a great question, chris. there's this tension between treating donald trump like a criminal defendant, which has been the approach of judge chutkan and the court of appeals and what jack smith is asking the supreme court to do, which is to recognize that this is a unique trial with extraordinary stakes, and that's why the supreme court should expedite its review.

the most important factor isn't that trump is a former president, but rather that right now he's a leading candidate to be the next president. it's probably in the best interests of everyone except donald trump to have the trial before the election. that's not just because a trial would give voters more information. if the trial doesn't happen before the election and trump wins, he could appoint an attorney general who would dismiss the charges. and chris, even if that didn't happen, if trump wins in 2024, any criminal prosecutions would almost certainly be postponed until 2028 at the earliest. >> wow. >> okay. let me ask you one more thing about this 16-page filing. it is heavy with legal arguments, but also political arguments. is it appropriate given the nature of what we're looking at here, is it impossible? because this is an unprecedented

case to separate the law from the political impact. i wonder what you thought overall of the political arguments that were made. >> you know, trump has been making this extremist argument that he can never be taken to court for anything he did during the four years that he was in the white house. and judge chutkan ruled that a sitting president enjoys special protection, but we just have one president at a time and that's not donald trump. so judge chutkan said that trump can be prosecuted and punished for any crimes he committed while president. chris, i think the supreme court is likely to agree with judge chutkan, but as ken said, the huge question is how long it takes them to get there. they haven't even decided whether to take the case now or to wait and let the court of appeals decide the issue first. the court does take the case either now or later, it's hard

to see a decision coming down by march 4th, which is when the trial is scheduled to begin. that would be warp speed for this supreme court, and the court does not like to be rushed. >> so the ruling, in my understanding -- correct me if i'm wrong here, paul -- the ruling doesn't affect the gag order. could trump still be in trouble if he says something he's not supposed to. >> yes, when the judge put the trial on hold for purposes of resolving this immunity issues, she specifically noted that the gag order remains in effect. she and jack smith are closely watching donald trump and if he violates, there will be consequences. >> paul butler, ken dilanian, more to come for sure. thank you both, guys, appreciate it. former house speaker kevin mccarthy gave his farewell to congress in the last hour. the california republican, among other things, talked about being removed as speaker just a couple of months ago.

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in about an hour, the biden administration is expected to announce a change that could give significant cash back to medicare patients on their prescriptions. because of the inflation reduction act, drug companies

now have to pay rebates to people who pay pricing medications. that saves seniors 1 and $276,000 per dose. the measure applies to drugs from 48 companies that the white house says hiked up costs faster than inflation. nbc's kelly o'donnell is back at the white house for us. so tell us about this, mostly people want to know when are they going to get this money back. >> reporter: this will happen in the new year, and it's a part of the inflation reduction act, one of the economic accomplishments in the eyes of the president and his team, and one of the elements of that is that if drug companies raise the cost of their medications beyond the rate of inflation and they're doing business with medicare, the government buying these drugs, that those dollars that go above the inflation rate have to be rebated to medicare. that allows medicare to reduce

some of the costs that seniors pay, and this will certainly affect seniors who have ongoing chronic conditions where they take regular medication. that's where you'll see the biggest impact because of the frequency of buying medications. when you reference $2,800 that relates to a cancer drug. that might be a more limited period of time, but a very costly medication. and the idea here is that to do business with the government, these companies who have a right to make a profit and obviously part of their profit is pulling back some of development costs of medicine, but to a point and the government feels americans pay too much, especially compared to what americans pay versus other countries for the same exact drugs, and this is a way to work with the pharmaceutical industry to try to give a little bit of a break to people who are regular consumers and regular customers of their medications. so there are 48 different ones

involved in this. last october, we saw a list of ten. so checking with your pharmacies, talking with your physician is the best way to know which medications could be affected but for some people, this could be a very significant reduction of cost and that can be factored into their monthly budgets and make things easier. chris. >> it could also make it accessible for people who found them too accessible previously. kelly o'donnell, thank you for that. director greta gerwig becoming the first female professor to serve as jury president for the cannes film festival. she's also the youngest person to lead the jury since 1966. in 2018, she was the first woman in eight years and only the fifth ever to be nominated for best director for the movie lady bird. but it is this year's barbie and its box office take of more than $1.4 billion worldwide that's already put her firmly in the

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