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it's good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, former trump chavp chief of staff mark meadows is trying to move his georgia case to federal court. the skepticism we're hearing from the judge. overseas, national security adviser jake sullivan is back in the middle east and in the middle of a diplomatic high wire act. the big change israel just announced during his trip. and payback, the senate just passed a major bill granting back pay to hundreds of service members who had their promotions held up for months by republican senator tommy tuberville. and how one florida beach city is using something called tiger dams. they're 2 feet high, 50 feet long, and they're using them to fight back against potential flooding. we expect a storm this weekend

that will affect the entire east coast. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, but we start in georgia where an appeals court heard mark meadows' arguments just a couple of hours ago. msnbc anchor, and legal contributor, katy f.a.a.n.g. is with me. meadows tried to move his case to federal court before and was shut down. any reason to think he'll be successful this time? >> he made a run at plea appellate court judges to convince them the trial court got it wrong. he think the potential jury pool could be better for him if he's in federal court. he also thinks that maybe there would be some federal judges that might be a little bit more sympathetic to some of the federal ds hwould raise. take a quick listen to an ex thahappened between one of the three judges and mark meadows' lawyer. >> for purposes of removal he doesn't have to establish the ter limits of his office.

he merely has to establish a nexus to his duties and is uncontradicted -- >> the problem here is that he wasn't able to, according to him it seems like everything was within his official duties, and that just cannot be right. >> and, chris, that is the biggest issue for mark meadows. when he testified at the evidentiary hearing at the trial court level, he said everything he said as the white house chief of staff was part of his federal duties and in order to move to federal court, you not only have to have a federal office but the things you're alleged to have done are related to that job. the judge having skepticism as to whether meadows could reach that standard. the other issue they raised was whether or not this federal removal statute, whether it applies to somebody who is a former federal officer versus

someone who's currently in that office. a lot of legal issues at play. we hope to get a decision soon. everybody wonders whether or not mark meadows will go to the supreme court if he loses. >> katie phang, thank you. >> president biden's national security adviser is in the middle east where he met with the leader of the palestinian authority and israeli officials. nbc's aaron gilchrist has the latest. what is jake sullivan telling key stake holders. >> let's start in israel, where jake sullivan, spoke to the media. answered a few questions there, and really, he said that he went into tel aviv to speak to his israeli counter part as well as other israeli leaders, both civilian and military to share the u.s. perspective as he called it with friends, and not necessarily to go in with a list of must dos to hand over to the israelis in terms of what needed to happen in order to achieve their strategic and tactical goals. he did, though, talk about this time of now transitioning from what he called a high intensity

ground operation. i want you to hear a little bit of what he said about that particular part of what's happening on the ground in gaza right now. >> they're going to continue to hunt the top leaders of hamas. sinwar, and isa, and we don't know exactly how long that will take. the issue really is when does israel shift from the high intensity military operations that are underway today to a different phase of this conflict, one that's more precise, more targeted, more driven towards things like those high value individuals. that's the conversation that i had with the prime minister and the war cabinet today. >> now, what you saw there is an interview that jake sullivan did with israeli media, and that interview really echoed what he said on camera to the gathered press this morning, afternoon time while he was in tel aviv, before going into in meeting with mahmoud abbas. the president of the palestinian authority, where we have not yet gotten a readout from the national security council.

we know that sullivan telegraphed that he was going into the meeting to talk about the idea of revamping and revitalizing as the administration called it, the palestinian authority. that organization should be the one that leads whatever palestinian state materializes after the war with hamas is over. he went on to say that he was going to talk about promoting stability in the region and about how there needed to be some work to reduce the number of attacks on set l, something the israelis have pushed back on, we know, chris, and something the u.s. has repeated over and over again and said this it and its allies in the region are going to be working toward once the war is over in particular, chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you for that. john kirby will discuss this when he joins my colleague katy tur coming up 3:00 p.m. eastern

right here on msnbc. the senate just passed a bill to make sure the hundreds of military members, they had their promotions blocked for months by senator tommy tuberville. this is to make sure they get that back pay. nbc's ryan nobles is live on capitol hill. what more can you tell us about the bill, ryan? >> reporter: it's very rare for all 100 senators to agree to anything during this period in congress. that's exactly what happened in this bill to give back pay to the 400 or so officers delayed promotions as a result of the hold by tommy tuberville ended up happening. all senators agreed to it by unanimous consent. it needs to be voted on by the full house and that likely won't happen until after the holiday break. it's expected that it will ultimately pass and the officers will end up getting that pay they were denied because of the standoff between the alabama senator and the department of defense over an abortion policy that would allow service members in states where abortion is

restricted to travel to states where it is not to have that procedure. the defense department, the administration refused to back down from that policy. tuberville either wanted it passed into statute or rescinded and tuberville and the two sides were at a stand off for many months, leading to a huge backlog of senators or officers that needed to be confirmed by the senate. ultimately, though, in the last week or so, tuberville backed down from that. he still has a hold on the four star officers and above. but many of them are expected to work their way through the process over the next couple of weeks and be confirmed, and then once the house comes back and also approves this measure, all of these officers that are underneath this banner and subject to the hold will ultimately get the pay they would have gotten had they been confirmed swiftly. >> may it ease the pain they have felt for these many months. thank you for that. florida is bracing for severe weekend weather that could bring the risk of

tornadoes. nbc's guad venegas is on the ground for us in hollywood, florida, it looks like the palm trees have gone horizontal there. how are you doing? winds clearly picking up. >> reporter: they are, chris. you can see the wind as you mentioned. i can feel the sand from the beach hitting my face. we're going to pan the camera over towards the ocean so you can see what the waves look like. this is an area where we normally have no waves. in other parts of the country, this might look normal. not here. we have the double red flag out. of course, no one is allowed to go in the water because of these dangerous conditions. very dangerous also for boating. south florida is big with boaters, but obviously all of these alerts are out. the gusty winds have been a hassle all across south florida, but really it's the flooding that has authorities worried because of the landscape in south florida. it's flat. we get a lot of rain.

it's difficult for the sewage system to ph that rain out of the way. we saw a few months ago what happened in fort lauderdale where we got a lot of rain in just one day. even the airport was under water at some point. just so you have an idea, the city of fort lauderdale just north of us has informed that they can deal with about 3 inches of rain within a 24 hour period. if they get more than 3 inches, then it will be a problem for the system to push that water out of the way. now, another thing about this particular weather is that we have the wind that's coming in from the ocean towards a lot of these communities. and that can create a challenge for those sewage systems that use pumps to push the water out of this area and into the ocean. just one of the issues that local authorities will be facing. i want to show you what's been installed here. a lot of beach communities across south florida are doing what they can to prepare. they have installed what are called tiger dams. essentially they fill these up

with water, and this will protect the communities from the possibility of the tide coming up and also the sand that can come in, and, you know, there's not much that people can do other than pay attention to the weather, the possibility of flooding, and of course stay out of the ocean because of the dangers as we all way for the heavy rain that's forecasted to make its way to our region, chris. >> take good care, guad venegas, thank you for being there for us. we appreciate it. nbc meteorologist bill cairns is here to break down what we're seeing. i'm looking at the map thinking not so bad. it's going to be bad. >> the holiday spirit, a cold windy rain, all the way to maine. apologize to everyone, especially anyone traveling to florida. >> don't blame the messenger. >> exactly. it's not my fault. here's how it's going to play out as we go through the next days, it's saturday, sunday, monday, three days of dealing with this. i paused this on saturday, it's a florida issue.

>> there's my brother, right around there. >> yeah, so indoor day, organizational day, we'll call them. get your to do list done, indoors, but we have the threat of severe storms. we could have isolated tornadoes. remember last week, the six fatalities, we're not expecting something like that. all it takes is one tornado and it can make a really bad situation. that's florida. this is sunday, washington, d.c. gets rain in the afternoon. the morning hours, south carolina, north carolina, you're going to think a tropical storm is hitting. you're going to have coastal flood issues, winds up to 60 miles per hour. this looks like an october map, let alone heading towards the end of the year here, and when you say monday morning, when you see bright red around new york city, that means downpours, urban flooding issues, so monday morning people are going to school. going to work, the airports will be a mess, same with boston. the winds will be a big problem as we go through the coastal communities, and this is heavy rain up to montreal. this is ridiculous as we go into the forecast.

when we sum it up. it looks like a lot of rain, in and out in most places 6 to 12 hours. it's not going to ruin your entire weekend. you don't want to get caught in it. >> my question is it going to make travel miserable for people getting an early start to the holiday? >> it will. and if you can, i haven't heard airlines saying that they will waive the change fees yet. this isn't like a winter storm. if this was a winter storm, everyone would be changing their plans. because it's rain, people think it's just rain. we'll get delayed. fingers crossed. >> bill karins, thank you so much. we are learning more about the breaking news out of israel. the idf saying they mistakenly killed three hostages. the nbc reporter who broke this story joins us next. trying to give a better life to people that don't have the means to do it. si mi papá estuviera vivo, sé que él tuviera orgulloso también de vivir de esta viviendo una vida como la que estamos viviendo ahora.

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we have more on that breaking news we brought you a short time ago. the israeli defense forces now taking responsibility for the deaths of three hostages. the idf says those hostages were incorrectly identified as, quote, a threat. with us here now is nbc's anna shekter. you were watching this in realtime. you are fluent in hebrew. i understand the idf spokesperson who we have seen many times got quite horriblement tell us what you heard. >> daniel hagari has given multiple briefings. this one, you could see he was grief stricken. this is a huge admission for the idf and the tragic circumstances

set against the backdrop of the massive death toll in gaza, 18,000 dead according to the hamas-run health ministry. these three deaths have their own unique tragedy. the two young men in their 20s who were identified, they were kidnapped near the gaza border, and they and a third hostage were -- appeared to have been running for their lives and they were viewed as a threat mistakenly, and were shot. the idf identified their bodies at a nearby camp. suspicion began to grow about their identities after they were killed. >> so there was an idf spokesperson, another idf spokesperson we just heard from. this is news to both of us, but i'm just getting this in, who explained that part of the problem is we have encountered many hamas fighters dressed in civilian clothes, though they can't say how that may have played into what happened here. that is one explanation for what

might have happened. what more did they have to say about this in terms of it obviously being a mistake? >> the israeli defense forces have said from the beginning and for years, this is the trickiest part of targeting hamas because of the dense population in gaza city, hamas has fired rockets from within schools, from inside mosques, from civilian areas that are heavily populated. and even in cases in the last two months now, there have been rockets that misfired and landed near a hospital killing civilians, and that was actually determined to have been fired by an islamist group from within gaza. so the idf has said for months, and really years, that hamas uses civilians as human shields. you can imagine if these three hostages are dressed in a similar way to other hamas

militants and fighters that the idf is fighting, it's very hard in the fog of war to distinguish who is who. and this incident really speaks to the current chaos. i think sometimes we forget that this is an active war. there are shootings all day, every day. there are bombings in gaza every day. there are also rockets that continue to be fired towards israel almost every day. this is an active war, and in the fog of war, tragic things like this can happen. >> the families have been particularly active. they have been very concerned, for example, about flooding of tunnels. could their family members be in those tunnels. one of the victims of this mistaken shooting, samer talaka was on capitol hill, saying how difficult this has opinion on him, on his family, and how desperate they were to learn

that he could be okay. obviously now they're getting this information. what has been the impact of the activism of these hostage families desperately trying to get israel to do everything it can to get them home? >> it's a great question. there's been enormous frustration amongst a large number of families that politicians are not paying enough attention to their loved ones that are captured and that every day that goes by their lives are even more at risk. and so you can imagine now we're 70 days into the war, the agony, the hour by hour daymare as one mother described it to me. it's not a nightmare, it's a 24 hour nightmare. if idf soldiers were that close, they were so close to rescue, and then this happens. it is tragic, and the tragedy of it was expressed and the emotion

of the spokes people that we've heard from today. >> anna schecter, thank you very much for bringing the report to us. negotiators try to flush out a border security deal that could lead to aid to ukraine and israel. democrats say they are optimistic a deal can be reached but they're up against robust resistance. >> we have multiple shutdowns pending in january, so that makes it even more important that we get the supplemental done now. >> we're going to work as long as there's daylight. >> there is no chance that you can come to an agreement, draft a legislative proposal, get the text together and then actually give people sufficient time to read it. so i think if they actually try, you'll have a revolt on the republican side of the conference. >> nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill, ashley parker is senior political correspondent for "the washington post," and elise jordan, former aide to

george w. bush. ashley and elise are msnbc political analysts. julie, who are the key players involved in the negotiations and what are you hearing about the level of confidence that a deal can be reached before next week's recess? >> reporter: we have senator sinema, senator langford, all in the room who have met with secretary mayorkas. they plan to meet again an hour from now. they say the talks are progressing well. i did speak to murphy. you heard a piece of what he had to say. he also said he's not going to sugar coat it. the time line in his words is a quote, aggressive schedule. remember, in order to get anything passed by the end of this year, they have this weekend to be able to translate all of their agreements, all of the deals they have made to change the asylum process, to tighten the parole process as well. get that text on paper, which is

complicated. this is an issue congress has not been able to address for three decades. it's more complex to make sure that logistically what they're writing out when it goes into effect will carry out the intended purposes of the agreements they are making, and this is an issue that is emotional. it is politically fraught, and it is one that's practically complicated and affects hundreds of thousands of migrants seeking asylum in this country. of course it's something that negotiators want to get right. to your point, you heard from republicans. they don't want to feel like they are rushing into any process. along with aid to ukraine and israel by the end of the year. that means they'll have to vote on it next week, and you heard murphy say there, because they want the senate to at least pass this year so the house can take it up in january. by all accounts, speaker johnson has not indicated that he will put something like this on the floor. >> , ashley, the white house hasn't been pulling punches. in a memo, as president biden

works hard to make american families safer every day, congressional republicans are actively undermining our national security interests domestically and around the world because they would rather go on vacation than do their job. what role is the white house playing in these negotiations right now? >> so the white house is playing a significant role behind the scenes including president biden himself but one thing that president biden laid out, really when he came into office is this idea that he thinks he can be, up until a certain point, more effective behind the scenes, and they are deliberately not doing anything that they think could jeopardize the negotiations and it's also important to remember that president biden, when he was a senator, did not love it when the president would kind of try to jam things down the senate's throat, so that's something that he's aware of and he believes he and his teams can be more effective behind the scenes because anything publicly, especially at a delicate moment could jeopardize

what's going on when everything, especially immigration is politicized and deeply partisan. >> what's the strategy on the republican side of the senate? can they realistically expect to get enough to give this a chance in the house? >> well, chris, they already have gotten president biden leaning forward and saying he is opening to tightening asylum laws and he's opening to negotiating on this. i actually think it's an interesting conundrum because republicans have given biden a big opportunity here because immigration is now a huge issue across the electorate no matter republican, democrat, and so to have any kind of border security crisis fix in the works, that shows forward movement, that shows biden doing something against the chaos. and this is something -- it removes an issue that he's going to be vulnerable on, frankly, against donald trump, coming up in 2024.

so if he could be seen to make any kind of compromise or deal on this, and he can still keep the progressive left with him, it could be a win for biden. >> that is the problem, right, ashley, the progressive left. how much influence do they have, how vocal are they likely to stay? >> well, already, president biden has shown himself open to some negotiations and some concessions that the progressive left and activists are very unhappy about. for instance, they're calling something he might do title 42 on steroid. that was of course the trump-era policy that allowed the administration to expedite the deportations of undocumented immigrants because of covid. so they are very unhappy. it's unclear how much they will be able to totally sway his decision. it's worth noting he has sort of said, he's willing to compromise, he's willing to

negotiate. he is not going to tie far right border immigration policies to a supplemental bill that involves aid for ukraine and israel. he does have some parameters. as elise said, he is also in certain ways eager to negotiate on this and has happily been telling people, look in my original version, i already had border enhancement measures. there's something he legitimately wants to get done. the question is if he finds the sweet spot to get republicans on board and not alienate a fairly important part of the democratic conference. >> is what i'm hearing in this conversation, elise, the possibility that a deal could get done that not only helps move things forward, but that both sides can use to claim at least a little bit of a victory, which is obviously what they both want. >> well, i hope so for the good of the country. the border is a mess, and it's insane that it takes, you know, over ten years in some cases for

asylum seekers to get into the country. i've had some afghan friends who worked with us in afghanistan during the war, and their process has just been mind blowing, so i support anything that's going to help make the system work better. and also, you know, that's where the american public is, writ large, too. >> elise jordan, ashley parker, julie tsirkin, thank you all so much. much appreciated on this friday. and up next, a former fbi spy hunter now sentenced to more than four years in prison for supplying key information to russia. what we know about the information he gave them. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. rts" onlc the subway series is taking your favorite to the next level! like the #20. the elite chicken and bacon ranch. built with rotisserie-style chicken and double cheese.

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a former fbi spy hunter has been sentenced to four years in prison for giving key information to a close associate of vladimir putin. and in return, prosecutors say he got $17,500 for betrayaling his country. nbc's ken dilanian has been following this for us. what more can you tell us, ken, about what information he shared? >> well, chris, fbi officials have insisted all along that this was a case about corruption, not spying. and so they say they have no evidence that charles -- he had

a financial relationship. and actually investigated when he was with the fbi. prosecutors say he was paid $200,000 in the arrangement, he says he netted 17,500. prosecutors say he took a quarter million dollars from an al bane yan businessman. this case is a huge black eye for the bureau. he was a flying agent, with a hub of important spy cases. he quote, jeopardized our national security by providing services to vladimir putin's agent. a reminder, that anyone who violates u.s. sanctions, particularly those in whom this country has placed trust will pay a heavy penalty. >> ken dilanian, thank you for that. sometimes you just need to say you're sorry. those are the words of full

county d.a. fani willis talking about apology letters. we're seeing some of the letters thanks to the "atlanta journal-constitution," although there's not much to see, actually. the ones from sidney powell and kenneth chesebro are a sentence long. chesebro wrote i apologize to the citizens of the state of georgia and fulton county for my involvement in count 15 of the indictment. powell wrote, i apologize for my actions in connection with the events in coffee county. let me bring in former u.s. attorney, joyce vance, university of alabama law essor and msnbc legal analyst. goodo see you, joyce. i w to read more about what thought the letters are y she important. quote, if you do something wrong that impacts the community, there needs to be real contrition. the contrition doesn't have to be a poetic melody, pages and

pages, sometimes you just need i'm sorry. she actually said she preferred a single sentence. how do you measure a show of contrition and how does that fit into the story legally? so i think it's a difficult situation, and it's one of the reasons federal prosecutors don't typically engage in this process of obtaining an apology. we see the results here and depending on how you view this case, people can point to it as either an inadequate sort of apology or even something that falls short of acknowledging guilt. the realty is both former defendants have made statements, given proffers, they've testified. fani willis has their testimony and from a legal point of view as the prosecution moves forward against other remaining defendants, that's what will matter. >> who are these letters for? is it for the community, for the people writing them? are they supposed to be taught a

lesson? what's going on? >> right. i think all of the above and none of the above, chris, because at their best, these sorts of apologies are meant to be a genuine act of contrition, and part of the way that defendants are able to begin restoring their connection with their community. you know, something that prosecutors understand along with defense lawyers is that no one should be judged for the rest of their lives by the worst decisions they've ever made. but for a defendant to begin to rebuild their life, they have to be sincerely apologetic. they have to acknowledge that what they did was wrong in order to be able to move forward. so that, i think, is the good intent behind this kind of approach, but as we see here, sometimes it falls a little bit short. >> let me ask you about the big picture and where we are. are you surprised that more fulton county defendants haven't worked out a plea deal? i mean, do you think the window is maybe closing for them? maybe it already has.

prosecutors have said no. >> i think not. i think there's still plenty of room to maneuver, you know, this morning there was oral argument in front of the 11th circuit on mark meadows' claims that the case at least to him should be removed to federal court. when we see a decision from the eleventh circuit that may move some of these defendants who were holding out some hope here, that may lead to a small flurry of pleas. other defendants may have decided they want to get through the christmas holidays with their families before they plead guilty. there are a lot of very individualized decisions that go into the timing of plea agreements, but i think we will see more if not before the first of the year, then afterwards and ahead of the finality deadline the court imposes. >> joyce vance, always good to see you. thanks. today an update in the case of the murder of four university of idaho students, that house where they were found dead last year is now set to be demolished on december 28th by the university. the president of the united

states called it a grim reminder of the heinous act that took place there. the victims' families had wanted to keep that house standing through the trial. >> we want the house to come down at a certain time, too, we don't want to have the dread and worry over our heads for the next year that maybe they would want to go in there one more time. >> suspect bryan kohberger's lawyers will visit the house today to take photos, measurements and also get some drone video to get ready to mount his defense. so far, though, no trial date has been set. a landmark ruling for prince harry in his battle against british tabloids. a british judge ruled harry's phone was hacked by a major newspaper. a journalist from the mirror group newspapers targeted him by gaining access to his voice mail, using unlawful methods. the judge said that it happened between 2004 and 2009.

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we have some breaking news. this time it's out of virginia. you might remember that 6-year-old boy who shot his teacher, well, now his mother has been sentenced to two years in prison for child neglect. that shooting made headlines back in january when deja taylor's little boy brought her gun to school and shot abby zwerner in the hand and chest. the teacher had to undergo multiple surgeries but survived. taylor pled guilty to child neglect back in august. two years in prison is the sentence. in the latest sign of a potential soft landing for the economy, new data shows surprisingly strong retail sales healed of the holidays. cnbc's joins us now for cnbc on msnbc. the markets are surging, inflation is falling, we have a slew of encouraging economic reports over the course of the week.

what should we expect to close out the year? >> you're right, there's a lot of positivity. there's a new report from the congressional budget office and they said they do believe that growth may slow down a little bit in 2024, maybe a few more people will be filing for unemployment. they say that the united states should be able to avoid an all-out contraction in growth or as what you just called heading for a soft landing, an example of that is november retail sales. we saw a slight increase in november, versus a decrease in october. economists weren't expecting that. an excellent example is costco, in their earnings report, not only did they say they sold a lot of pies recently, the cfo said black friday and cyber monday sales which happened in november were, quote, a little better than we were expecting and that's why costco shares are up 4% today. you have the service side of the u.s. economy, another good barometer, pmi grew faster in november as more people went out to eat and travel, and the federal reserve on wednesday,

signalled three interest rate cuts next year. when rates go down, that makes debt a little bit more expensive for you and i, and that helps stimulate growth in the economy. >> the other thing i'm looking at which is the cnbc web site. >> yeah. >> we had two record days of the dow. they're down just a little bit right now, i think, it's right now, 46 points. now 44. so i'm a little behind that or they're a little behind me. small amount, but nasdaq could be heading for a record close. >> yeah, so that's where i am right now, and the nasdaq primarily trades a lot of technology stocks, and we're heading for seven straight weeks of gains. much of that has to do with what we were just talking about, the interest rate cuts that are coming next year. that makes debt cheaper for companies because rates come down, and so when it's cheaper, maybe they will pile on more debt when they keep growing. that does well for the actual share price. we're seeing a lot of tech names do quite well, and not

necessarily the magnificent seven that we talk about, nvidia, microsoft, we're seeing a shift to broadcom, marvel, some of these names and that's why you're seeing the nasdaq 100 hit an all time high at the close. >> in the middle of it all, thank you so much. have a great weekend. >> you too. christmas eve falls on sunday, and because of that there's a tighter deadline to ship holiday gifts. marissa parra is live at a ups store in coral springs, the key question, how much time do we have left? >> and that depends on how much you want to pay, chris, so we'll get into that in just a moment. let's start with the cheapest option for fedex ground shipping, that deadline is today. you have until the end of business. if you realize in advance you're not going to make it by the end of the day, you have same day shipping options for fedex all

the way until friday. same day shipping, don't be fooled. what that means is that is a guarantee that that is going to make it to the intended recipient before christmas. now, ups, three-day select deadline is tuesday the 19th. ground shipping is going to depend on the package, where you're sending it from and who you're sending it to. and usps, say you want to send the holiday card to your friends, family, loved ones, your deadline for ground shipping is tomorrow. when we talk about things goegt getting to their intended places, we have tips. not just making sure that you're sealing it the way you should because that is something the ups driver was telling me is his biggest pet peeve. also be sure to double check zip codes. a lot of times people have the right address, but not the right zip code. you may be spreading christmas cheer, just not for the right address. all of these things to say, i heard from the people who work

here. when it comes to the difference in price, you could very well be paying more for the actual shipping than the price of the gift itself. the difference between ground shipping and expedited shipping can be upwards of $150, chris. if you want to send a subtle reminder to someone you love, making sure things get to the right places, send a link to this story and that can be your subtle reminder so things can go where they need to be in time. >> i have a box in my closet right now. i will head out and get it in the mail. marissa parra, thank you so much for reminding me. still ahead, the new and urgent health alert from the cdc with winter virus activity picking up quickly. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ansing reports" only on msnbc

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the power is back on across new york city after a brief surge wreaked avenue hock overnight multiple reports of people trapped in elevators and stuck on subways for as long as 20 minutes. the power company, con edison says the cause was a small explosion at a substation in brooklyn. fortunately no one s hurt. the cdc issuing an alert, warning of an urgent need to bot vaccinations to meet rising rates of winter viruses. over the last month,

hospitalizations have increased 200% for the flu, 51% for covid-19, and 60% for rsv. nbc's erica edwards is following this for us. what do we know? how are our vaccination rates right now? >> hey, chris, according to the cdc, they are not nearly high enough to stem those rising rates of winter illnesses. now, as of a week ago, just over 17% of adults had had the new updated covid shot. when it comes to the annual flu vaccine, about 40% of kids and about 40% of adults have had it. now, those rates are usually higher when it comes to older adult. however, it seems like not many are getting the rsv vaccine. among people 60 and older, 16% had the new rsv shot. >> what is the cdc recommending, other than getting vaccines, especially for rsv where that isn't an option for many people? >> you're right.

there is a shortage of the rsv immunization for young base. it had been working with drug companies to increase doses. until then, the same old advice applies, cover the coughs and sneezes, open up a window to increase the ventilation in your home, your office. stay home when you're sick, and of course lots of hand washing. >> we spoke a few days ago about how sickness rates were lower than this time last year, but we are heading for the holiday season. we're heading for a time when a lot of people are getting together indoors. is there kind of a forecast or at least a warning for this holiday? >> you know, flu seasons are notoriously hard to predict. they might fizzle out early or a new strain might pop up late in the season. given the rising rates of flu and covid and rsv and all kinds of viruss and bugs circulating right now, that's what has the cdc so concerned, and that's why

they're pushing for vaccinations ahead of the christmas holiday gatherings. >> erika edwards, thank you so much for that. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports," we're on every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. have a great weekend, everybody. "katy tur reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. the abortion issue was everywhere this week as a matter of women's health care in the courts. as a political issue on both capitol hill and the 2024 campaign trail. and now with a deeply reported behind the scenes look from the "new york times" on how we got here, an inside view at how the new conservative supreme court majority overturned decades of precedent to kill roe v. wade. including details on when the justices made a decision to take it up, w