dissing some part of his base. swing voters find this an issue, i think that's why he's put money in the appropriations bill to do some progress on it. >> robert gibbs, sabrina is a dickey, happy holidays to all of you, david jolly, thanks very much. thanks for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. i'm going to take a bit of a hollywood break, and i hope all of you enjoy the holidays. you can rewatch parts of our show on youtube. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters. rudy giuliani has filed for bankruptcy in new york.

so what happens to the $146 million he was ordered to pay in the defamation case against georgia election workers. we'll dig deeper coming up. plus, the supreme court face ing a nearly unprecedented test of its integrity and reputation. the political and legal challenges posed by the colorado case and others now piling up on the justices' doorstep. can the court and the country emerge unscathed? and the terrifying images out of prague where a mass shooting has left 15 people dead, two dozen hurt. students climbing out onto a fourth story ledge of a university building as they try to escape the gunman. a lot going on just in the last couple of hours. we begin with that breaking news. rudy giuliani filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy in new york. he's listing debts up to $500 million, assets up to 10 million. this comes one day after a federal judge ruled giuliani has

to immediately pay that $148 million that he owes to two former georgia election workers. nbc's ken dilanian is following this for us, also with me former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst carol lam. all right, ken, i just got my hands on this. it's pretty thick. i haven't gone through all of it. walk us through this bankruptcy filing and what it means. >> so the main debt that he lists in this filing, chris, is the $148 million he owes to ruby freeman and shaye moss, and that appears to have been the tipping point here. he also owes more than a million dollars to some lawyers who are suing him, and he lists some other theoretical debts that could occur in lawsuit where is he is a defendant, for example, hunter biden is suing him for defamation, smartmatic, the voting company suing him. he's listing potential debts and that goes up to $500 million.

but here's the thing about this $148 million judgment. it likely is not dischargeable in bankruptcy because it resulted in willful and malicious acts, which are not subject to bankruptcy protection. whatever happens with this reorganization and the bankruptcy, this judgment will stay with him for the rest of his life. now, he can appeal it, but the judge made clear in order to appeal he's going to have to put up a bond, which he does not have. an appeal seems rather remote at this point. this judgment will stay with him. will ruby freeman and shaye moss get their money, that remains in question. what kind of assets does rudy giuliani have? we know that he has a lovely apartment on the upper east side of new york, and we know that because it's listed for sale right now. you can see it on the suter by's

website. if he makes money from that, that could go to some of the people, some of the creditors here. it's a long process that's just beginning, and it's a huge downfall for somebody who was once called america's mayor and who made a lot of money as a private lawyer, but whose financial fortune started to dwindle once he began to work for donald trump. as we learned yesterday when a series of documents were released in connection with a criminal investigion, chris. >> so carol, i'm looking through all of this, and i'm reminded that a judge already said, listen, he has never come clean about what his assets are. do they just accept this at face value? what happens now in terms of really, a, figuring out how much he has, and b, because as ken just pointed out, a lot of these are unknown debts, figuring out how much he actually is in debt. >> yeah, chris, we can't just take his word for anything at

this point, what happens in a bankruptcy proceeding is that a bankruptcy trustee is appointed by the bankruptcy court, and it is the job of that trustee to get all the information about the petitioner's assets and income, and if rudy giuliani want the protection of the bankruptcy court and he wants to be able to discharge a lot of these debts, then he's going to have to come clean about what his assets and income are. ken is quite right in noting that ruby freeman is and shaye moss's judgment in this case, 148 million will not get discharged in bankruptcy. they may recover some dollars or some pennies on the dollars, but it won't be discharged. so for them, the satisfaction may not be in exactly how much money they get from rudy giuliani, but it will be that he will never be able to enjoy the kind of lifestyle, to which he has become accustomed without having this judgment following him around for the rest of his life attaching liens to his

assets and his income. >> of course you can't put a lien on something that he doesn't have. we know he's had difficulty, for example, selling what would seem to be -- again, we don't know -- his greatest asset, which is his apartment in manhattan. how does this generally work, or is there no way it generally works? and by that i mean if you are the georgia election workers, if you're moss and freeman versus say dominion, versus say hunter biden, when all is said and done is and these court cases are settled, does everyone get the same amount on the dollar potentially? are sometimes certain people given priority over others? how does it work? >> well, much is left to the discretion of the trustee to figure out what is fair in this case, who has real claims to the money and that means -- and certainly, if off court judgment that is going to suggest a very strong claim, but the bottom line is, yes, the bankruptcy

trustee has to come up with a proposal that the bankruptcy trustee believes is fair, and then it is subject to the approval of the bankruptcy judge, so there's a lot of negotiation, a lot of discussion that goes on, a lot of examination of not only the assets that rudy giuliani has but also the validity of the claims that his other creditors have against him. sometimes you see, some sort of weird or sketchy claims, maybe a relative says that i'm owed something on a loan, but it's not clear what the terms are, so that's for the bankruptcy trustee to we want to go now to that disgusting flood of death threats unleashed on members of the colorado supreme court, many of them on pro-trump forums. it comes after the court's decision to strip the former president'same from the state ballot. one user wrote, kill judges.

behead judges. round house kick a judge into the concrete. another said, this ends when we kill these effers, particularly disturbing, some posts including the judges' phone numbers and office addresses. but with new word into nbc news that trump is expected to appeal the decision sometime after christmas, the focus shifts to the supreme court where justices may be forced to step more directly into the political arena than at any time since bush v. gore in a country even more bitterly divided now than it was then. and it comes at a particularly fraught time for the court itself, struggling against accusations that on -- accusations that on issues from abortion to affirmative action, it's guided more by politics than the law. let me bring in ryan reilly, o'lens ya john so is a political strategist, and chief impact officer at the group 1063 west broad.

carol lam stays with us. ryan, what more can you tell us about the threats against these judges? >> yeah, it's almost to be expected at this point, right? every time that donald trump has faced a legal setback, we've seen this pattern where these -- the threats really come in. we saw physical attacks even after the fbi searched mar-a-lago. we saw actual physical attack on an fbi field office. we've seen time and time again threats against individuals who are investigating january 6th rioters, for example, and when trump was indicted and then when trump was indicted again this flood of threats really come in and what ends up happening is we're in a scenario where these justices were deciding these issues have to have that in the back of their mind. in fact, the ruling itself sort of spoke to this, that they had to -- they felt that they had to make this decision regardless of sort of the other factors that could be weighing on their mind. the threats they might see. they probably knew going into this because it's happened time and time again, and in fact, in the main case in the jack smith

case against donald trump, this has been something that's been litigated in response to the gag order because the appeals court found this was indeed a pattern, when donald trump attacks people publicly, they get a host of threats, and that's something they have to deal with. it's a very real world consequences for them, these threats that come online, chris. >> carol, you served as a superior court judge. what's your level of concern for these judges who have been targeted, and as we said in some cases, where they are, what their phone numbers having been published? >> well, it's not just my experience as a judge, but also my experience as a prosecutor. my natural instinct is these people have to be -- there has to be a good investigation and prosecution of folks who register these kinds of threats, and you know, the irony is, of course, that these threats against judges and prosecutors parallel the alleged insurrection that took place, right? it's the same sort of modus

operandi, the sort of call to arms, and then these violent threats that take place because these people have been called upon to take retribution or vindication on folks. it's terribly problematic, and you know, not only are these judges under threat, but this is going to cause people not to want to go into the profession that upholds these democratic institutions like the legislature or the judicial branch, and that's the real problem here is that it's a -- it's a race to the bottom in terms of how we treat those who uphold our democratic institutions. >> so alencia, as ryan rightfully points out, this isn't surprising. we've seen it before, right? we saw how trump supporters responded when there were threats after the fbi search of mar-a-lago against jurors in georgia clearly, against court staff in new york, we could go on. but what does it tell us about where we are in this country?

>> it tells us that we are in a very dark time in our country and even before all of those things that you mentioned, we saw what trump supporters did on january 6th. let's not forget that all of this has come about because he was the one -- on that fire, on that flame, and i believe a lot of us believe that he was the key piece of the insurrection, which is the core center of this whole case right here. i also want to talk about how, yes, how dangerous this is and how we have never seen this before in history, but now this is going up into the supreme court, we also have to think about the fact that this supreme court is mired with scandals and, you know, calls for them to have ethics reform and all of this, so the american people aren't actually, you know -- they don't believe necessarily that the supreme court will uphold the decision based on the constitution, and that -- the

supreme court continues to decide based on politics. that mired with this political climate we're in and this culture that, again, has really emboldened by donald trump, we are going into some even darker time listen, we're only a year out from the election, but all of this is tied to donald trump's candidacy, and i'm really concerned about what's going to happen, not only to the people who are trying to uphold the constitution like these judges, but also the people who are trying to exercise their right to vote may be different than supporting donald trump again. >> and carol, of course t colorado case is not the only one that could land on the supreme court's doorstep or is there already. in cases -- there are cases involving otruction charges lied to january 6th, trump's immunity, potentially the d.c. gag order. here's how "the new york times" writes about it. taking up just one of these cases would place theupme court with a conservative majority bolstered by three trump appointees in a particular political spotlight that it has not felt in 23 years, but a

number of the issues the court is now confronting could drastically affect the timing of the proceedings against mr. trump, the scope of the charges he should face or his status as a candidate with potentially profound effects on his chances of winning the election, and the justices could easily become ensnared in several of the questions simultaneously. is there any way at this point, carol, for the justices not to find themselves in the middle of not just tough, unprecedented legal questions, but clearly a political firestorm. >> chris, i don't think there is any way for the justices to avoid it at this point because whether they take action or whether they decline to take action, they're essentially setting a precedent and making rules that -- or letting rules stand in place that are going to affect the election. so i think that they are showing their willingness to entertain

the possibility of taking these cases up on review, even before the appellate court has had an opportunity to weigh in, and that is a legitimate thing. i mean, the supreme court can do what the supreme court wants to do, and they can take things up for immediate review, even before it's gone through the intermediate level of the appellate court. they have done that in the past and it is usually for extraordinary reasons. frankly, i don't see that things get much more extraordinary than they are now. the parties don't really want to call out the fact that we're all looking at these deadlines of the republican national convention and then ultimately the november election, but everybody knows it. it's there. it's the reason why tanya chutkan, the judge in jack smith's d.c. case set a march 4th trial date, and the supreme court is well aware of it too. i don't think there's any way for them to avoid the fact that the court has gotten dragged into the political arena at this point. >> so alencia, let's talk about the more overt politics of this.

i mean, not surprisingly, president trump has already been fund-raising based on the colorado decision. i mean, an email went out lightning quick on that. and i want to play a little of what former ohio governor john kasich said on this show yesterday when i asked what he thinks the response to all of this will be. >> they're going to say, you see? the deep state, they won't even let him compete. they won't even get into the ballpark and be able to swing at a pitch. that's what they're going to say, and he's going to say it. he'll say the deep state is at it again. >> do you think it was a mistake these cases to be brought, that it could ultimately end up helping donald trump and potentially hurting joe biden? >> look, i think about what i would be thinking if i was sitting in a government class and say, yes, this is absolutely the thing that we're supposed to do. this is what our constitution is supposed to do, protect us from insurrectionists or

authoritarians becoming president again. we look at the reality of where we are. we know that these cases, much like john kasich said, and i don't agree with him on a lot. this em boldens his base, it gives him talking points. it gives him the ability to say, see, he's after folks like you and i. we also know that donald trump doesn't have anything of similarity with his base, and so it is concerning going into the primary. i think putting my political analyst hat on, this is giving donald trump some wind that he needs, given that nikki haley, you talked about that before. nikki haley's poll numbers are rising in some of the early primary states, and so it's going to help him, i think, politically. but i do think behind the scenes, we all know there are a lot of republicans who want another option. they want more -- a different -- a reason to not have to vote for donald trump, and so it will be interesting to see what they do when they get to their ballot box, even if they don't say it publicly, what they will do with their primary vote.

>> it will be indeed, alencia johnson, carol lam, ryan reilly, more great reporting on these threats, thank you all for that. fat leonard s back in u.s. custody today. we'll tell you why and what happens now. but first, we have the breaking news out of europe, an extremely rare and deadly mass shooting. the details when we're back in 60 seconds. e details when we'ren 60 seconds ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ [bell ringing] and doug says, “you can customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual.” he hits his mark —center stage— and is crushed by a baby grand piano.

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to protect the students inside. and here's another shocking image, people seen hiding on a ledge outside of the charles university arts faculty. nbc's molly hunter following this story for us. molly, what more are we learning about the gunman at this hour? >> chris, as you mentioned, a very high death toll. that death toll, which police have just released in their police presser, that may not be final. they're really stressing this is an ongoing operation. in that press conference, we learned that the lone shooter according to police is a 24-year-old male, a charles university student. the shooting happened at charles university at the faculty of arts. chris, this is one of the biggest, oldest universities in prague. it is smack dab in the center of the city in the old town. police say he's from west of prague. the interior minister very importantly said there is no information this incident would be connected to international terrorism, but they are very clear, chris, that it was a premeditated violent attack, that he had planned this.

chris. >> a lot of these images we're seeing hit close to home for us here in the u.s. unfortunately. we do see it. but how extraordinarily rare is a scene like this for people in prague, and frankly, through most of europe? >> extremely rare through central europe and, actually, the editor in chief of kind of prague's main daily newspaper has called this a national tragedy. he says this is completely unprecedented in the history of the country. we do have a little bit more of kind of a tiktok. even though this is not common in the czech republic, not common in prague, police were on alert, so they understood that the suspect had a class at 2:00 p.m., chris, and by 2:59, they got the first word of the attack. they went directly to the university to evacuate the buildings. within minute they were on the scene. they said this was an ongoing operation as of just about a half hour ago. they were still evacuating students. you saw terrifying pictures of people on ledges.

we've seen pictures of police going around with flashlights, trying to get everyone out. making sure people know this is a safe place. the death toll is more than 15. the attacker is also dead. police are not commenting exactly how that 24-year-old was killed. they said there was an exchange of gunfire, but they're not releasing exact details. at least 24 people injured, but again, police say these numbers are fluid and could change. >> molly hunter, thank you. meantime, the blockbuster prisoner exchange between the u.s. and venezuela includes one notorious fugitive from american justice. leonard francis, also known as fat leonard, he's a malaysia defense contractor at the center of perhaps the largest corruption investigation in u.s. military history. a story as fascinating as it is at least at times implausible. let's bring in nbc's dan de luce and craig whit lock, investigative reporter for "the washington post," he's author of the forthcoming book "fat leonard: the conman who

corrupted the u.s. navy." tell us about the deal to bring him back to the u.s. and where this goes from here? >> chris, this is quite an amazing tale. leonard francis was transferred to u.s. custody yesterday in return also for the freedom of ten americans who the u.s. believed were being held unlawfully in venezuela, and then in exchange, the u.s. granted clemency to an aide of the president of venezuela, nicolas maduro who was acced of money laundering. leonard francis was a fugitive he had been convicted in this massive bribery scandal and was under house arrest, but he cut off his ankle bracelet and fled the country, ended up in venezuela where there is no extradition treaty between our two countries, and so venezuela used him effectively as a bargaining chip in this negotiation, and so venezuela was able to secure the release of this aide to the president of venezuela and the united states got the freedom of those ten

americans and got to have leonard francis come back into u.s. custody. and now he's going to be facing a sentencing hearing, and i don't think the judge is going to be giving him lenient treatment after everything he's done. >> craig, his story is so compelling. i mean, wild at times. you decided to write a book about it. what more should we know about him that the u.s. was willing to make a deal like this? >> so leonard francis is a criminal mastermind of the most extensive public corruption case in u.s. military history. he was a contractor if the u.s. navy for 25 years. his company would resupply and refuel u.s. warships at ports throughout the pacific, whenever they would visit places like hong kong or singapore where the u.s. didn't have a military base, his company had million dollar contracts to resupply ships. but for 25 years, he ripped off the navy by over charging them for fuel and any kind of service for the u.s. navy and for, you

know, where most of our fleet is overseas. but what he did is he was a brilliant businessman. he bribed scores of u.s. navy officers by his own admission with lavish meals, prostitutes, cigars, gifts, booze, you name it, and he also infiltrated the naval criminal investigative service, ncis and other navy intelligence officials, so he had people on his payroll who are in the u.s. government. he was only arrested in 2013 under a sting operation that involved more than 100 federal law enforcement agents. they tricked him into coming to san diego on the pretense of meeting with some admirals to get some morecontracts, when instead they arrested him. otherwise he probably would have never been taken into custody. he was then -- he pleaded guilty a couple of years later. he flipped as a witness with the u.s. government and testified and cooperated in private against hundreds of u.s. navy personnel. so he was a really big fish in

this long running corruption investigation. >> i mean, dozens of navy officials, contractors swept up in this big scheme, as you say, that went on for decades. i'm wondering -- and dan laid out the basics, you know, where he's going to be next, for example, in terms of this sentencing. but what are you watching for next? are you even surprised that this deal was made? >> well, there's a lot of ironies going on here. fat leonard escaped as dan said from home detention in san diego 15 months ago, but he was living in a multimillion dollar mansion in san diego that he was renting with money that he had stolen from the u.s. navy over the years. >> how is that possible? >> well, he was such a valuable cooperating witness for the justice department that they let him get away with this. he was diagnosed with kidney cancer five years ago, and he was seriously ill, but that's why he was out of jail in the first place and on home detention, and the justice

department swore in court that he was -- they were worried he might flee. they let him out anyway, and you know, right before he was supposed to be sentenced, he did slip off his ankle bracelet and high tailed it to mexico, and finally ended up in venezuela. it's very fortunate the u.s. government was able to get their hands on him 15 months later. he's a very slippery guy who's been in and out of u.s. custody, and so, you know, i hope they keep him under close eye this time. >> i don't mean this facetiously. how quickly can your publisher get this book out? >> well, it's coming out in may, actually, i just finished the final edits recently. we're going to have to rewrite the ending, of course, given what happened this week. >> need to speed that up. craig whitlock, i can't wait for the book. dan de luce, great reporting from you as well. thank you both so much. it's not funny, but it's funny. coming up, the dire warning about the humanitarian crisis in gaza, virtually no access to clean water.

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thirst, and unicef is warning children have barely a drop of clean water to drink. it comes as a push for peace deal continues. for now, the sound of sirens ripple in tel aviv as hamas fires rockets towards the capital. inside gaza, israeli strikes continue to pound rafah, one little boy, you see him here called out to his dad who was killed in the strikes saying through tears, why have you left us behind? why, dad? why? nbc's jay gray reports from jerusalem. jay, the suffering is unimaginable. fire and hostage talks appear stalled. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, and chris, the grief is overwhelming and unfortunately that little boy's story is one that's repeated hundreds if not thousands of times over and over in gaza. you're right, it appears that we're at a deadlock again, the hostage saying there will be no release of the hostages until

there is a cease fire, while israel is reaffirming its commitment to rid the region of hamas and free those hostages. we know that the fighting has been intense over the last 24 hours, especially on the ground to the north, ground troops continuing to try and move into areas they say are under hamas control and their command centers as well are targets. we also know that the air strikes have been relentless over the last 24 hours. the israeli defense force saying they've hit 230 hamas targets during that time period, and all of that unfolding while the problem on the ground for those who were trying to find shelter, those who have been caught in the cross fire, continues to deteriorate at an incredibly rapid rate. give a listen to what the world health organization is saying about that situation. >> every single person i speak to, everywhere i go in gaza is hunger. the time is now.

we are dealing with starving people now, adults, children, and it's unbearable. >> so that end, aid shipments have slowed down dramatically. they are not getting the food, water, supplies that are necessary inside gaza. at this point, there are no functioning hospitals in the northern part of the strip, and only a handful that are partially operational through the rest of the gaza strip. they don't have the supplies they need to take care of those who have been injured, and we are seeing now as you just heard, people dying from a lack of food, a lack of water. >> i understand you just sat down with a 13-year-old manner boy and his mom after he was released from prison in the west bank. what did they share with you? >> reporter: yeah, it's an amazing story of this 13-year-old who had been playing soccer with his schoolmates outside of their school and was walking home when he says he was

shot by an idf soldier through the arm as he's recovering, and his recovery is going well, a month after that shooting, soldiers showed up at the family home in the middle of the night, took him and his father away, and eventually separated him from his father. he was held in prison for a full week and just released overnight last night, talking to the mom, she says it's a constant fear here, a constant concern. chris, as we sat down for that interview, he got a message on his cell phone that another of his friends, a 13-year-old had been arrested by idf as well. the violence in gaza, the attacks in the west bank have escalated just dramatically since october 7th, and it's a big fear that they live with constantly inside that area. >> jay gray, thank you for that. i want to bring in the director of research at the sufan group collin clarke.

hamas has now said there will be no talks about the hostages until what they call israel's aggression stops. so where does that leave us? >> yeah, so i think that's been, you know, one of hamas's sticking points, which is they refuse to negotiate under fire. you know, we're going to have to rely on the very skilled interlocutors, the egyptians, the qataris, the united states, and others to continue putting pressure on both sides, both hamas and israel to come back to the negotiating table, even though i suspect the second time around as we go for a kind of second truce here, is going to be much more complex, much more difficult to work out the details. >> as i got up and was going through the different newspapers, a lot of the headlines were about the u.n. gridlock on a cease fire vote for gaza. is that important? >> well, i think symbolically, it can be important. it also shows, you know, where countries stand on the issue, where you see kind of alliances forming.

you know, and in the united states, it may very well be important to voters as we enter an election year, you know, where the biden administration stands on this. >> you know, "the new york times" is reporting that israel has battered gaza without finding the hamas commanders it has named as its most important targets. so how much progress do we know israel is making really? because their goal here, their stated goal is to wipe hamas off the map. >> this is a matter of significant debate right now in the kind of counterterrorism community, right? how much progress is israel making toward their stated goal. i'll say right now and just flat out, eradicating hamas is not feasible. the question becomes how much damage does israel do to gaza, to public infrastructure, and to civilians in the meantime trying to achieve this largely unachievable goal, and what are the long-term implications in terms of international public

opinion. i think that's something the biden administration is pressuring the netanyahu government to think long and hard about. >> in our last minute, what do you think the chances are that they catch the hamas leader sinwar or his brother? >> you know, the idf is a world class military, and so they have exquisite intelligence collection capabilities. it's very possible that sinwar, but i would caution those -- sometimes -- the academic research and empirical evidence barely proves that out. -- long beyond their leaders -- >> collin clarke, thank you so much and happy holidays to you and yours. . and still to come, we'll take you to one of the seven counties that could decide the race for the next president. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ing "chrg reports" only on msnbc ♪♪

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starting to change here. you can imagine with all of those dynamics at play, the economy is really a top issue on the minds of voters here, and what i've seen as i've been talking to people is really a disconnect between some of the successes that the biden administration has been touting. they've been talking about the easing of inflation, the rising wages, the low unemployment numbers. when you get on the ground here and you talk to people about that, they say they're not feeling those benefits and that's across the board whether you talk to democrats, republicans or independents. that's where you see nationally those low approval numbers for biden in general, and especially on the economy. i believe cnbc had his economic approval rating at just 33%, which is tough and it's specially difficult in a place like erie county where biden won this county narrowly in 2020 and it was because of democratic turnout that he was able to edge out donald trump here. getting enthusiasm up is going to be really important over the

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after a rough day for stocks yesterday, the s&p had its worst day since september. the markets are rebounding today, but it's been a turbulent year in the world of business. from the cooling of inflation to high drama on wall street and then of course the two ladies who brought in over a billion dollars each, taylor swift and "barbie," nbc news business and data correspondent brian cheung walks us through the biggest moments picket lines, bank blow ups and barbie, the biggest theme of all, worker power. across the country, over half a million teachers, pharmacists, fast food workers and more went on strike, the biggest ones targeting hollywood and the motor city. tv and movie production halted when the writers guild walked out in may, when actors and

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