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♪♪ tonight on "the reidout." >> this maga threat is a threat to the brick and mortar of our democratic institutions. it's also a threat to the character of our nation. it gives our constitution life. it minds us together as americans in a common cause. >> the biden team weighs how to talk to voters about the dangers of trump at a key time when the president is trying to lock in some of the crucial groups in the biden coalition. also tonight, my panel of esteemed guests and i are going to announce who won the year in 2023. it could be one of those accomplished people on your screen, or it could be somebody else entirely. stay with us to find out. plus, i will be joined by a major special guest. he is very much in demand right now, and in this business, we call this a good get. that's a tease. but we begin tonight with the fate of donald trump and his legal and political future.

resting with the nine members of the highest court in the land. today, special counsel jack smith responded to trump's request that the supreme court reject the fast tracked consideration of his presidential immunity defense in his federal election interference case. smith wrote, the public interest and a prompt resolution of this case may present immediate definitive decision by this court. the charges here are of the utmost gravity. the case involves for the first time in our nation's history, criminal charges against a former president based on his actions while in office. and not just any actions, alleged acts to perpetuate himself in power by frustrating the constitutionally prescribed process for certifying the lawful winner of an election. a decision on whether the supreme court takes up the case could come at any moment. also expected to land on the court's doorstep, mr. trump's appeal of the bomb decision to kick trump off the state's primary ballot.

it's the first state to rule that pursuant to section 3 of the 14th amendment, trump is disqualified from being president for his role in the january 6th insurrection. a decision on the appeal by the supreme court could have a profound impact on the other states where trump's ballot eligibility faces a challenge. one impact already being felt as a result of the colorado decision is the flood of threats aimed at supreme court justices via social media, including on many pro trump forums. nbc news has exclusively obtained a report from the nonprofit group advanced democracy that identified, quote, significant violent rhetoric often in direct response to trump's truth social posts on the decision. they include death threats like this post on a fringe web site which reads, kill judges, be head judges, round house kick a judge into the concrete. another said, this ends when we kill these effers, some posts

includes the justice's e-mail addresses, phone numbers and office addresses. it's an all too familiar pattern that gets repeated each time the twice impeached, four times indicted, civilly liable for sexual abuse and defamation former president who is faced with the legal consequences of his own actions. i have a great panel. michael beschloss, nbc news historian. paul butler, georgetown law professor and msnbc legal analyst. errin haines, editor at large for the 19th and an msnbc political contributor, and david jolly, former republican congressman who is no longer, for some reason, we cannot discern affiliated with the party. this is like a friends and family night. it is so great to have all of you here, and these two gentlemen with me here at the table. happy holidays to all. >> thank you, merry christmas. >> the happy is in scare quotes this year. it's a difficult year, and we're

rounding it down this year. i want to start with you, paul. on these threats. are these threats legally actionable? colorado supreme court justices, read a little bit more. this is one more of the threats that after disqualifying donald trump from the ballot, some of these colorado justices got. what do you call seven justices from the colorado supreme court at the bottom of the ocean? asked another user, a good start. post noted a variety of methods that could be used to kill those perceived as trump's enemies, bullets, rifles, ropes, bombs, can people go to jail for doing that? >> they can, depending on the context. this year the country is getting a crash course in first amendment jurisprudence, you can say a whole lot, but when you cross the line to threats, when there's an actionable danger of putting someone's life or health at risk, you can be prosecuted. >> and let me ask you this, as a former prosecutor, it's part of your job to prosecute scary people, people who have got friends that are bad people,

does this to you read as a higher level of threat for prosecutors, judges, even clerks? >> it certainly does. when you're a prosecutor, you know that people aren't going to like some of what you do, so you rely on security, but you also rely on law, what's called deterrence. so one reason these cases have to be investigated and prosecuted because if they're not, it will open the door. we're devolving into this dangerous lawlessness in this country. where a lot of people are questioning the legitimacy of courts. so this is really the time for prosecutors to step up, to do their job, to make sure that judges, prosecutors defense attorneys, and witnesses are safe. >> absolutely, and, michael, this is happening at a time that the supreme court, i cannot think of a more momentous set of cases coming before them. they have to decide basic issues, have presidential immunity for anything he would do that would assume any kind of

crime. talk about the position they're in. they're not exactly held in high esteem at this moment. >> they are not held in high esteem. one of the reasons is donald trump appointed one-third of them. the first was a stolen seat, stolen from barack obama who should have been able to fill it. republicans in the senate did not let him. the second went to brett kavanaugh over whom there is still clouds, and the third one went to amy coney barrett, which she was sworn in as people were actually voting in the election of 2020. you know, that's a case where the president should have said i'm going to wait at least until after the election until i'm reelected. so that does not exactly add to the legitimacy of the court, and so layered on top of all of this is the fact that oftentimes in history, the supreme court takes a long time, which obviously that's what donald trump wants, but they rise to the occasion when it's important. we talked about this the other

night. 1974. prosecutors were licensed to say that nixon should give up his secret presidential tapes. it went quickly to the supreme court. they made a ruling. tapes were open, nixon had to resign. 2000, recount in florida, george w. bush was ahead by 537 votes. by one recount, there was a suit to stop the recount. the five conservatives voted to hand bush the presidency. effectively the four progressives did not. those are two of the moments that tell us the supreme court at its best and its worse. >> and sandra day o'connor, recently laid in state. >> she regretted it later on. i talked to her about it. >> she might have because the supreme court not supposed to pick the president. that's not the way it's supposed to work. it strikes me that the other thing that's unique about this moment is that donald trump faces apparel that is uniquely centered around the disposition

of justice by black women. the judge in his d.c. case, the prosecutor in the state of georgia. the new york attorney general, and he is using that as a way to declare the entire process to be reverse racism, and to then pivot to the kind of open racism that used to be completely unacceptable in politics but now he's doing it because of the way that the people prosecute him, namely look like you and me. >> absolutely. and i would add to the list, you know, shaye and ms. ruby, who were able to hold rudy giuliani accountable, who he was also, you know, demonizing and attempting to criminalize his perpetuation of the big lie. yes, you have multiple black women attempting to hold him accountable for the big lie and

also his activities on january 6th, and him using that to do exactly what you said. involving racism and voter fraud. yeah, i think what's interesting is this colorado case which he's expected to appeal is another way he's going to attempt to say, look, i'm being persecuted here. you should continue to rally around me. this is further proof i'm being persecuted. just a pause point, this is a reminder of the political violence that's still looming as we head into 2024, and you have these judges, you have prosecutors that are trying to kind of muzzle the rhetoric that the former president has been using as a deterrent. it's certainly not deterring his supporters who are making these threats against the colorado supreme court judges. yeah, all of this is certainly

not something that is determining him from his behavior and his continued kind of allegations that he's the victim here and race is absolutely a part of that. >> you know, it feels like, david, it is kind of the culmination of all the bad things that sort of were the detry tus in the republican party and used to be the democratic party before a lot of folks switched sides particularly in the south, and there is a part of our country that we have carried along with us that has a deep racial animus and a resistance to change and a democratic panic, they can't carry over. i feel like the difference is democrats when they were stuck with these people tried to find a way to pivot around them. fdr in a way ruined parts of the new deal to pivot away from them, and say we'll accommodate them, and not have agricultural workers get social security to try to appease them. when lbj really got down to it, he said they're going to be on the wrong side of history, i'm

going to turn against my own kind, the white southern democrats, and drove them out of the party by passing legislation. there was a time when parties could shift. it doesn't feel like the republicans want to shift. they decided they kind of dig this version of the party which is in many ways a 1930s, fascist party, and they're kind of cool with it. >> yeah. it's such an important conversation, and you're exactly right. in the kind of civil rights, post civil rights generation, you had both of those political parties, you saw chapters where they tried to rid themselves of the cultural baggage of, frankly, racism, and they tried to move, at least if they didn't lead against racism and the systemic impacts of it, they tried to quiet it. in the 2000s, with john mccain, the way he tried to treat barack obama. trulily what happened is

democrats started to show leadership. republicans said it's okay that it's there, as long as it stays quiet, and then the trump era happened. you can argue it started before then, during the obama administration, but what trump did is he main lined this. when we talk about the violent threats against the colorado judges, when we talk about donald trump's language about immigrants, what we have to wrestle with is that he is unleashing and leading a cultural movement as much as a political one. they conflate, across over each other but i think sometimes we do ourselves a disservice by suggesting it's just a political movement. it's not. it's a cultural movement where donald trump has used the vessel of the republican party to bring back the vestiges of discrimination and racism and xenophobia, and that is on the ballot, a chilling moment that donald trump is using the language that he is, his followers are behaving as they are, and somehow they're given equity as it's part of a political apparatus, and we

suggest it's the same as the democratic party. it's not. one is a dangerous cultural movement. the other is a political coalition trying to raise up and bring up all people in the economy and industry situation that moves the country forward. >> i think we talked about this the other day. radical republican used to mean liberal. there was a time when they were the good guys. >> in another eon. >> it has to be shocking for you as a historian to watch the 1930s happen again but actually more overtly. >> this is worse than the 1930s because at least progressives in the 1930s thought when they got certain civil rights legislation later on or the vote was expanded or some of the progress that we saw in the 1960s, that that was irreversible. if we had had this discussion ten years ago, would you ever have imagined some of the rights that were given to the american people by our system, but insured by the supreme court.

>> to women, black folk, immigrants. >> taken away, if donald trump gets to become president and becomes a dictator. >> the thing about it, i think about a nikki haley who is in sort of the perfect position. she is polling near donald trump in states like new hampshire. she's now seen as, forget ron desantis, he never had a shot. but she's seen as the most likely alternative. even she won't say more than what he's saying is inconvenient and ill timed. she cannot call on her own background to defend herself. she and vivek ramaswamy are willing to have their own table defamed by donald trump because they're too scared to say no. i guess at this point i'm not sure if there's a vestige of the republican party, you as a journalist have seen that is willing to stand up to it and, no, mitt romney doesn't count. he's left politics. >> i think it is important to

note for the past several cycles, i have been covering a republican party that understands that using a racial playbook can be effective with a significant number of voters in the republican party. if this is not what republican voters are rejecting, it's certainly not something that republican candidates are willing to step away from because it is politically effective or at least it has been for the last several cycles and so, you know, i think that that is also an important point to make as we are headed into an election where it looks like probably the front runner for the republican party nomination is somebody that we know is going to continue to use that racial playbook. we know who he is. who are voters going to be in this moment? are they going to reject not only the rhetoric but the policy. you have notre dame, vivek ramaswamy, and even ron desantis, whose main pitch to voters, casting themselves as an

alternative to trump, maybe you don't like the rhetoric, but, you know, i'm somebody that's still willing to carry forward republican policies that also may be harmful or seen certainly by some folks as creating a country that is not as fair and free and equal to all folks, but the rhetoric for them is the problem. it's not necessarily the policy they would enact if they were elected. >> at this point, the rhetoric, he's actually using hitler lines. come on, wake up. we're going to keep this panel here. this is a brilliant panel. see if we can wake up your friends. clap at them. we're going to talk about the 2024 race a little bit more, and new nbc reporting on the biden campaign's strategy to try to keep voting groups on board in the face of growing criticism. "the reidout" continues after this.

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back with me are michael beschloss, paul butler, errin haynes, and david jolly. the bankruptcy, can he rig l out of it? he owes the irs 202,000, and 521,000 for another judgment. the new york department of tax and finance. he owes his lawyers that he didn't pay, and then there's a long list of people that he also owes, including ruby freeman and shaye moss, $148 million. which of those things can he

delay through bankruptcy. >> good news and bad news. the good news is this will force some transparency. giuliani has been really shady, including in this trial about where his money is. that's one reason the judge ordered him to pay up now. if he lies about his assets where they are in a bankruptcy court, that's a crime. going to jail. the bad news is it's going to take longer for ms. moss and ms. freeman to get paid. but rudy's bankruptcy doesn't discharge his debt to them. there's an exception for intentional torts like defamation. so freeman and moss should get paid at some point. it's just a question of when, but they will be near the front of the line, and make no mistake, rudy is not broke. he's got an apartment in new york. he's got a condo in florida, and he's got money in the bank. and so at some point, if this $148 million verdict survives appeal, rudy giuliani is going

to be working for ruby freeman and shaye moss for the rest of his natural life. >> god is good, won't he do it. won't he do it. let's talk about joe biden, let me play, this is a group of dane county, wisconsin, young voters, this was a critical state in 2024 for joe biden. here are some young voters, the great shaq brewster interviewed them. take a look. >> funding this war. i don't know what will happen if i don't vote for him, but i know it won't be me supporting that. >> on climate, on covid responses, you could tell his administration were doing really great work, but i think after october 7th, the question became a matter of human rights. >> what's the best argument you have for young voters to support joe biden? >> the other guy is way worse. >> reporter: it's that simple? >> i think it is. >> so errin, this is a challenge for joe biden, and you saw the first person there, the young

person, gaza, we have seen just utter, absolute carnage, it is very difficult to watch and stomach every day covering it from here. young voters are particularly angry about it, and then there's other things like climate change and unmet promises. this is a promise, though, from the biden administration, and i wonder how seriously they are taking it. >> i think it may be beginning to sink in for them. we're still almost a year out from this election, and so there is still time to make the case to these voters, and i think that you are seeing in the way that the president and vice president are getting out on the campaign trail and really taking this message to people and trying to hammer this home early and not kind of in the 11th hour shows that maybe they are not necessarily taking for granted these key coalitions they need to shore up. young voters are not going to

vote for trump but need to be persuaded to come out for them. i wrote about this issue recently for my colleague in the 19th, the amendments to say that democrats are going to have to make the case. they're going to have to make the case early, and they can't assume that these people are just going to show up. young voters, women, people of color, immigrants, particularly given that there is a lot of unfinished work on the agenda that they pitched to them in 2020 that they're wanting to see that work completed but also need to be convinced that this is the team that can get that done. >> yeah, and david, you know, i think it should scare every democrat that joe biden seems to have put his political fate in the hands of one bibi netanyahu, an autocrat want to be, who wrestled control of the supreme court in his country and passed antidemocratic laws in his country and seems quite clear that what he wants to do is mow gaza into the earth, and that is now the person upon whom joe

biden's fate might rest with some young voters. >> yeah, look, i think joe biden has a lot of challenges ahead of him in terms of what issues he decides to strongly address, and run on. you could make the case, i believe, very credibly for the continuation of our democracy. of our democratic republic is actually the most important issue on the ballot. and it's not actually the number one issue with voters, if you really look at polling and examine what they're most concerned about. you can take this issue of israel and gaza and recognize that joe biden has significant challenges, but is that the number one issue that's informing voters? maybe for some younger voters, yes, but largely not for others. how do you package all of that together? i think there's a way for it all to come together. we know donald trump, he in his own words is running for retribution, and he wants to undo our democratic republic. joe biden has the opportunity to say, my administration is advancing an economy for all

people, health care access for all people, education for all people, voting rights, protecting your own suffrage, equality for every industry. we are doing these things, but you can only be the beneficiary of those things if democracy is protected. we also have to do that. in a donald trump administration, winners and losers are based on political loyalty, and whomever the chief executive decides is the winner that day. i think there's a way to do this, but joe biden has to focus on what voters are asking for, which is his priorities around growing an economy that represents their long-term interests. i think the economy is ultimately what's going to inform voters. the other issues are important. second, third, fourth issues, but the economy is going to drive voters in november. >> we love having a historian at the table. i think about nixon, the youth candidate. he presented himself as the peace candidate in some ways. >> which was a lie. >> a complete lie. and so is donald trump.

i hear a lot of people talking about to protect the coalition of european countries to protect the red sea, a lot of people are calling that preworld war tw three. people are looking at donald trump and saying during his administration there weren't all of these wars. you're hearing the recasting this madman as potentially the peace candidate. joe biden, he is in this odd position where he's reliving in some ways, lbj's life. >> he is, but at the same time i think he knows, i pray he knows that this -- i disagree a little bit with david whom i respect so much, the economy is going to be extremely important, but ultimately this election has to be decided, do you voters want to live under a democracy or do you want to live under a dictatorship that's going to take away your rights, that's going to deport some of you out of this country in ways that we have never seen before and had a right never to expect. that's what's at stake. if joe biden is able to make sure that that's the real issue,

i don't have any problem with thinking that a serious majority of the american people do not want fascism, they don't want to lose those rights. if he fails to make that point, i think the country has a real problem. >> and the question becomes the get out of fascism free card really is the six members, the conservatives on the supreme court. i'm not saying what i think. i'm telling you what i know. most republicans despise donald trump: >> they would love to get rid of him. they don't want their finger prints on it. they're too afraid to do it themselves. here's the six member majority, including john roberts, who is the ultimate politician, and a republican politician in my view. >> and an enemy of voting rights, of all things. >> absolute enemy of voting rightings, absolute enemy of individual rights of nonwealthy white men and corporations. however, as a republican he could do the deed and get rid of donald trump for his republican friends: in your view, does he

do it? >> a sub text of the brief that jack smith filed in court today asking the supreme court to please expedite their decision is that the trial needs to happen before the election. >> and this would be the jack smith trial on overturning the election, the coup trial. >> that's right, the federal trial because it's information that the voters should have so jack smith makes a big deal about how this is a historic first ever federal prosecution of a former president. another sub text, though, is if trump doesn't have the trial before the election, and he wins, then he will either pardon himself. >> right. >> or appoint an attorney general who will dismiss the case. >> that would be the end of democracy. >> absolutely. he's already talked about it. you know, you'd think that if someone was going to do something as controversial as that, they would be a little quiet, roll in the tanks after the inauguration. if he has been this far in

saying, i will abuse the military to fire against citizens essentially, you know, i will undermine the rule of law at the point of an attorney general who's my lap dog. i will undermine, he doesn't put it in this language, rights that americans have never seen before in our entire, almost 250-year history, this is something that if this is not the deciding issue in the next election, americans have got an existential problem. >> that is terrifying. scaring is caring, is what we say on the show. it's a theme of the show. it honestly is we scare because we care. up next is something really special. my panel is going to tell me their picks because someone did, y'all, as bad of a year as this was, somebody won. we're going to tell you who won the year coming up right next, the winner for the entire year. it's amazing. trust me, somebody won. ust me, n

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this is exciting, as regular viewers know, we end every week with a little segment we call who won the week. tonight, we are going bigger. my distinguished panel and i are going to tell you our picks for the entire year of 2023, so gang, it is time to play "who won the year," oh, my god, this is so exciting. back with me are my amazing

guests. let us go in the order i have designated, my producers are designated, i don't know who their picks are. paul, who won the year? >> all day, i agonized jack smith or beyonce, but as president of the lawyers chapter. >> there's a right answer now. >> as president of the lawyers chapter of the beehive, i have to go with my queen. >> come on. >> so she won her 32nd grammy award this year. that's a record for any artist, her tour, over $500 million, that's a record for a female artist. everybody knows she puts on a great show but i don't think she gets props for being such a brilliant artist. the renaissance album, it was on house music. it's giving afro beats, it's radically inclusive. that's the through line in our conversations today. it's pushing back against this white male grievance that animates our politics. the dancers, you saw the tour, every shape, size. >> i went to houston. >> beyonce loves everybody who

has the courage to be themselves. when she says might i suggest you don't mess with my sis, that's a message that rudy giuliani just learned. >> yes, he did. >> this is a tough hill to get over, errin, because you are next, my dear, you got to beat that. who won the year? >> well, first let me just say that i did not have paul butler as renaissance king quoting beyonce lyrics on my bingo card. >> i didn't either. >> you know what, paul. shout out to you. let me also say that i initially predicted that 2023 summer was the summer of the black woman, but no, this was the year of the black woman, and that's whether you're talking about beyonce, our queen, shakari richardson, making ncaa college coach

history. coco gauff, simone biles, i could go on and on. when black women win, it feels like a win for not just them individually but collectively, in a year that is so exhausting for so many black woman. "the color purple" in droves. this is the year that we needed as black women, especially headed into the next year. >> the winner, black women. david, it is up to you now, tell us who won the year? >> joy, one hakeem jeffries, and here's why. this was a terrible year for politicians, start on the republican side, donald trump indicted four times. kevin mccarthy tossed out of office. five other republican leaders get humiliated and lose. ron desantis started on third base and stole second. nikki haley still 30 point behind donald trump. chris christie, done. on the democratic side, joe biden struggling to get his numbers right. hakeem jeffries, undefeated, kept the government open when he

needed to. raised the debt limit with democratic votes. funded the department of defense when republicans couldn't. hakeem jeffries, the leader and the winner of the year. >> and rewrote the abcs, he re-did the abcs and they were hot. excellent choices, and now to our esteemed historian, michael, who won the year? >> the heat is obviously on. i will do my best not to screw this up. the winner in 2023 who won the year was democracy. now if we had said that 50 years ago, it would be a bro mid but in these days, democracy every single hour is under challenge. what happened this year, jack smith and the department of justice went out after donald trump for waging a military possibly or a violence insurrection, very probably against the united states, indictment, same thing in georgia, and also look at those republicans who a year ago were

saying we're going to use a majority of 30 or 40 people in congress to basically advance authoritarianism. ain't happening, they don't have the winners. >> i have a runner up and a winner. runner up, organized labor, they got it done this year, auto workers, hollywood writers, hollywood actors, starbucks workers, all made it happen. raised wages and won the year. but my actual winner, never mess with a praying black woman, rue ruby freeman and shaye moss. when you mess with a praying, church hat wearing black woman from fulton county, georgia, you're never going to win. rudy you lose. shaye moss and ruby freeman, you won the year. thank you, michael beschloss, paul butler, david jolly, and errin haynes, the most important

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>> who knew you could tiktok from the north pole? well, santa larry can, in between checking his list and making sure christmas wishes come true. back in 2016, santa larry was hired at the mall of the america in minneapolis as the first black santa ever. well, he's just santa to us. and again, he has carved out some time to pay us a very special visit from his north pole studio, and joining me now is the santa larry who just is santa. he just is. santa, it's so great to see you again. >> thank you, joy, for having me. it's been a wonderful year. >> well, you know what, it's been not a wonderful year. there's been a lot of actually really terrible things happening this year. i wonder, how do you maintain your joy and your spiritual joy given all the horrible things that are happening around the globe? >> that's a good question. i just have to maintain my spiritual growth through my faith and knowing that god is in

control. and that good will always overshadow the bad. >> absolutely. so we know that, you know, tragically in bethlehem, they have cancelled their christmas celebrations. will the children in bethlehem still be able to get their santa goodies, despite the fact that the official christmas celebrations are cancelled? >> i hope so, and pray that they do. and i'm being honest as i possibly can be because our children need to enjoy the christmas holiday and celebration. so, yes, i'm praying for our children in bethlehem. >> if we ask for peace in our stocking, can we get it? >> yes. >> we know your whole santa enterprise was slowed down by covid. i know it was very difficult to shimmy down the chimney when everybody was there all day. you couldn't sneak in. you couldn't be sneaky.

how have you adjusted the whole santa thing when it comes to things like the pandemic, things like, you know, just all of the changes that have happened in the last few years. how have you agisted, you and the elves and the reindeer, of course? >> we adjust by doing virtual santa visits, and that was the best thing that happened for america period, for the children, was when we started doing the virtual santa visits. children can still communicate to santa claus, and i'm here at the north pole, set >> that was fantastic, and with the pandemic happening it has changed the way a miracle america works, how the world works, period. a lot of people are still working from home and communicating through zoom, webex, teams, et cetera. >> we know you are the real santa, of course, that's why we have you every year. we want to talk to the real

santa. i was wondering, when you were growing up, have you ever seen a santa who looks like you? >> i never did. and i was often wondering about that. and as i was growing up i started seeing all the magazines. i got a chance to see james brown as santa claus on jet magazine. i got to see george jefferson and santa claus on tv. and so forth. and so i know those guys to be santa claus. took it from there. >> so when you hear james brown seeing santa claus go straight to the ghetto, is he talking to me? >> yeah. exactly. absolutely. and it was a great time during that time period when james brown was making that music. >> absolutely. >> i loved it. yes. >> let's show a picture. we got a chance when you're one of us were lucky to interview santa and mrs. claus. i think we have a to a federal

photo of both of you together. you look fabulous in year santa accoutrements. how is mrs. claus doing? and how is rudolph? and are a the other reindeer allowing him to play the reindeer games? >> mrs. claus is doing fantastic. she's having a wonderful time being mrs. claus and runs the operation at the north pole while i am away. and the reindeer, rudolph is still the famous reindeer, and all the other reindeer are letting him play in the reindeer games. so we're having lots of fun here at the north pole. and we are training the reindeer's every day, getting ready for our big day. >> we are always excited. you are our favorite guest of the year every year, santa, santa larry, aka just santa. we appreciate you, and merry christmas. >> merry christmas to you, joy. now, joy, i have a new jingle for you this year. >> please!

>> jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way, oh watch fun it is to ride with reidout in my sleigh. >> i love it. and now we know you have a tiktok, i think we should stitch a tiktok with. you will have to work on that, santo mary. >> absolutely. and in 2024 will be my 25th year appearing as santa claus, and i'm going to make 25 city stopped next year just in person, per se, and i want one of those cities to be washington, d.c., and i want to come to your studio. >> that is done and dusted because if santa asks, my name is joy. of course i will say yes. >> ho ho ho. love you, many blessings. >> we will be back in a moment. wasn't that the best thing ever? we'll be back in a moment with one more surprise. i will let you know what it is when we come back. know what it is

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to share a little holiday poem about our amazing readout to him, written by me, with illustrations by my daughter, when some read, but a little studio prompter who came to life. and here we go. towards the night of the reidout in studio five. all the people were stirring, like a little beehive. producers had written the blocks up with care, and joy was onset with great makeup and hair. the graphics were graphic, the set was all it. trump's legal entanglements filled up the scripts.

sarah leslie and julia had booked up the show and caleb had notes printed, ready to go. unlike therapy and on and the guests seated as well. it seemed like there was much left to do. went out of the prompter arose such a clatter, downtown sterling brown wondered what was the matter. joy it shattered a way, paying no mind at all, since it was commercial break time, after all. but the prompter exclaimed, as joy started to saying, find the holiday prompter. let me say something. i've got words on my belly and thoughts of my own. so let me exclaim them. okay, here i go. on durban, on tina, on robert and pete. on jonathan, adam, be quick on your feet. on tory and rachel. swifties alike. the shows only started. we've got a big night. on tiffany, val, alexis, and kai, before we all know it, an hour goes by. john with the blog, robert with

teases, and raven with tape and lilies are pieces. really who's from brooklyn and all the crew, gary, julie, zak, and our wonders a twos. trey, claire, valentin, matt and all of our friends, so many to name, the list might never end. coco, jenny, jason, danielle, and bills b, bill and bernie, the durbin who is ian and why see. and the prompter exclaimed, as our showtime began, happy holidays, reidout, much love to you fan! that is tonight's reidout. happy holidays everyone. all in with chris hayes starts right now. all in with chris hayes stars right now. >> >> tonight on all in the. >> i did everything right, and they indicted me. >> the paradox of the trump polling. >>