social media for real time updates, making sure santa is indeed on his way. >> make sure that everybody in your house is sleeping, include ing moms. merry christmas. >> thanks to lester for that report. i have that tracking app on my phone. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. watch clips on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. chris jansing picks up with more news right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. new reporting about donald trump's push to overturn the 2020 vote in michigan and what it could mean for special counsel jack smith. americans on the move.

if you are hitting the road or jumping on a plane today, you will have plenty of company. one of the busiest travel days of the year is in full swing right now. the nightmare keeps getting worse for families of hostages in gaza. word today a 73-year-old american citizen, father of four, grandfather of seven, died at the hands of hamas. what we know about him and his wife who is still a hostage. lots to get to. we start with the new and significant reporting out of michigan. "the detroit news" obtaining audio recordings from 2020 in whicthen president trump urges officials not to sign off on results that show boden won. he said, we ve to fight for our country. we can let these people take our country away from us. he also said,quote, everybody knows detroit is crooked as hell.

on the call, rnc chair mcdaniel who told election workers, if you can go home tonight, do not sign the certification papers. we will get you attorneys, to which trump added, we will take care of that. we should point out the calls have been known for a while. this is the first time we are learning what was said. nbc news hasn't independently verified the recordings. no one on the call disputed their accuracy. joining me now, jeremy peters, "new york times" reporter, susan del percio, a republican strategist, donna edwards, a former democratic congresswoman from maryland, they are msnbc political analysts, here with me in studio is nbc's dasha burns. dasha, let's give this call context. the significance of what was said on it. >> the context is the former president is facing four counts of criminal conspiracy to defraud the united states and its voters of the rightful

outcome of the election. his efforts in michigan are a significant part of that. some folks might make them think of this as like the call to the georgia secretary of state where he asked him to find more votes. this is another level. these are county officials. this is almost trump as micromanager of the process. these are folks -- any number of his staff could be calling, but trump is calling directly folks at the county level to tell them not to sign off on this election. in fact, these two canvassers, they did not sign the statement of votes for wayne county that night. they unsuccess it wilfully trie rescind their votes. the irony is that trump received more votes in wayne county in 2020 than he did in 2016. we are hearing from the trump

campaign aboutthis. a spokesperson for the former president says all of president trump's actions were taken in furtherance as his duty of the president. we are hearing from the rnc. they are pointing us to what the chairwoman told "detroit news," she stands by her push to have an audit of the election results. of course, as we have reported, there have been no evidence of any sort of widespread fraud in 2020. >> donna, what's your takeaway from this call? >> well, i mean, to me, it continues the same pattern of trump's on words really putting him at the center of these fake electors. we heard his words in georgia. we heard his words in michigan and on the campaign trial.

words were not that surprising. it's consistent with his behavior. these fake electors have faced investigation and charges in multiple states already. the question is, how many people are really willing to go down for donald trump when he is coordinating this idea of a fraudulent election? here, of course, we also have mcdaniel, the chair of the rnc, on the call as well. i think it's -- it confirms what many of us have already concluded about trump's behavior. >> there is, jeremy -- i think that dasha points this out well -- an intimidation factor. not that the secretary of state of any state is used to getting a call from the president of the united states. but when you are going down, as she said, granularity of this level, it's another thing all together. how might this fit into the larger universe of problems that trump is facing, jeremy? >> i think it really portends what we could see play out in

2024 if trump is the republican nominee as we expect him to be. he challenges results state by state as he did the last time. of course, those were all unsuccessful attempts. what we see here and why "the detroit news" is reporting it is so valuable, we see how a conspiracy theory is in real time. he will vote on voting irregularities to try to discredit the results of a fair election. i covered what was happening in detroit at the time. i remember there were all sorts of resumes flying around about inaccurate counting, about poll monitors being denied access to witness the vote counting. wayne county, detroit, has always had problems counting its votes. does that mean that there was intentional malfeasance?

no. it's human error, as is almost the case always. as we have seen him do, trump will seize on the irregularities, seize on instances of votes being tabulated in a time frame that's longer than usual, and he will say, this is corrupt. we need to be on the lookout for that going into 2024. we know he will do it again. >> susan, this is the first time any of the allegations around 2020's election have involved mcdaniel. i wonder what you make of what you heard her say. is it just legit? she's the head of the rnc. she wants to do everything she can to make sure the election was on the up and up. >> she's trump appointed puppet at the rnc. she has continued to do whatever the former president wants her to do. it will be interesting to see what kind of added pressure this adds to her. i think while i'm not an attorney, this recording will

certainly play up in some of the criminal charges and what kind of witness she becomes. what is she willing to do or take to protect donald trump? my guess is, not much. >> one of the questions, donna, as we see this drip, drip, drip of revelations, this one brings to mind that infamous call to georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger, naming a specific number of votes that they want found. has the biden campaign come up with a comprehensive strategy on how to deal with these revelations? or just to let them speak for themselves? >> i think thus far, the president and his campaign have been basically allowing those revelations to speak for themselves. i'm not really sure if at that point it's the right strategy. i don't think that you can just assume that americans know and follow what's going on without sort of hammering it.

i think that they do need to figure out a way that they can highlight this as another reason that donald trump is a threat to democracy. that's the core of their -- one of the core pieces of their campaign. these examples really illustrate that and put donald trump at the center of organizing these fake electors and putting pressure on them all throughout the 2020 post-election cycle. >> let me go back to georgia for a second, jeremy. d.a. willis was asked whether she thought if trump was convicted, what are the chances he could go to jail? here is what she said. >> will he see prison time? what do you think about that? >> i think that everyone in society is the same. i don't know why that's such a difficult concept for people. you can look at the charges. based on those charges, we will be recommending appropriate

sentences. no one gets a break because of their status. >> when you talk to folks on either side of the aisle, how much of a conversation is it what happens if, indeed, donald trump faces jail time for real? >> i think the people that i'm talking to realize that that's a possibility. i think they also understand that the only surefire way of getting rid of donald trump, if you are an anti-trump republican or democrat is to make sure he doesn't win. i think anybody who is focused on the legal process or the institutions in our democratic process that could somehow remove him, they are doing so without really thinking about the bigger picture here, which is every time the legal process or our democratic process has prosecuted donald trump, has investigated him, impeached him,

it has never ended up in his removal. i think anybody who expects that to happen, there's a reasonable assumption there, sure he could end up in prison, but the only way to be sure you get rid of him is to not elect him. >> susan, we are waiting for reaction from republican challengers to trump to this new reporting on that call. before it broke, ron desantis said this in a new interview. >> i wish trump hadn't been indicted on any of this stuff. honestly, i think from bragg on, i have criticized the cases. someone like a bragg would not have brought that case if it was anyone other than donald trump. someone like that's distorting justice, which is bad. i also think it distorted the primary. i think it has been -- those have been the main issues that have happened. >> it's helped him? is that what you are saying? >> both that, but then it just

crowded out so much other stuff. it sucked out a lot of oxygen. >> i don't think there's any doubt that, susan, it sucked out of oxygen. it can sound like ron desantis is saying that that's why things haven't gone maybe like i would have liked them to. what do you make of his conclusion? >> he is a sore loser. he is going down in the polls. he is going to do horrible in new hampshire, come in second or third in iowa. it's rather pathetic. if he was worried about the oxygen in the room, maybe he should have spoken out and spoken to those indictments and gone after donald trump. he is running against donald trump. instead, he was trying to play it way too safe, not getting in the race until march and really trying to be the alternative to trump, only as trump was getting stronger. he had a terribly flawed

campaign strategy. now he is making up excuses to his donors and himself. >> susan, jeremy, donna, dasha, some festive trees in the background. i hope you have a wonderful holiday season. we appreciate you coming on on this friday. thank you. the holiday travel rush is in full swing. i know dasha is about to head out. we will head to the busiest airport in america and see how the weather will hold up as well. that's in 60 seconds.

i want to go to the u.n. where the security council is meeting on the humanitarian crisis in gaza. they have passed a resolution calling for steps to allow safe and unhindered humanitarian access. this is the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. let's listen. >> the united states has done work tirelessly to alleviate this humanitarian crisis, to get

life saving assistance into gaza and to get hostages out of gaza, to push for the protection of innocent civilians and humanitarian workers and to work towards a lasting peace. today's vote bolsters those efforts and lends support to our direct diplomacy. i want to thank the uae and others for working with us in good faith to craft a strong humanitarian focused resolution. it took many days and many, many long nights of negotiating to get this right. but today, this council provided a glimmer of hope amongst a sea of unimaginable suffering. today, this council called for urgent steps to immediately allow safe, unhindered, and

expanded humanitarian access, and to create the conditions for sustainable cessation of hostilities. i will note that this is the first time this council has used this language, language we believe is critical to scaling up aid and underscoring the tough steps ahead as we work together to achieve a lasting peace. colleagues, today this council made clear that addressing the humanitarian crisis in gaza needs to remain at the forefront of our agenda. today, this council made clear that all hostages must be released immediately and unconditionally, and that humanitarian groups must be able to access hostages, including for medical visits. today, this council made clear that all parties must respect

international humanitarian law. today, this council made clear that civilian and humanitarian facilities, including hospitals, medical facilities, schools, places of worship, and u.n. facilities as well as humanitarian personnel, and medical personnel, must be protected. the applies to all parties to the conflict. to israel but also to hamas, a terror group that instigated this conflict and that wages war from inside homes and hospitals and u.n. sites and uses innocent civilians as human shields, an act of cowardice and cruelty. colleagues, today this council made clear the need to ensure humanitarian personnel and assistance, including fuel, food, medical supplies, and

emergency shelter assistance, can reach people in need. it is hard to overstate how urgent this is. just yesterday, humanitarian groups released the report on the dire food security crisis in gaza and the word famine has started to enter the vocabulary of humanitarian leaders i have met with. surgeries are being performed without anesthesia. people are hurdled in overcrowded u.n. shelters. others are sleeping in the streets. this resolution speaks to the severity of this crisis, and it calls on us all to do more. for our part, the united states has worked tirelessly to scale up the delivery of humanitarian aid through direct, persistent, presidential diplomacy. in the beginning of the

conflict, we helped secure an agreement to open the rafah crossing. last month, we helped secure a deal that led to an extended humanitarian pause during which more than 100 hostages were released and additional aid got into gaza. last week, we helped secure the opening of the crossing at ke m shalom for direct delivery of assistance. this resolution puts the weight of the security council behind these efforts and bolsters them by calling for the appointment of a senior u.n. official who will work to expedite the delivery of humanitarian aid at scale and in a sustained way. we know humanitarians are already doing the impossible. and we are there to do everything in our power to support their life-saving work.

it's vital that when implementing this resolution, the u.n. builds on the progress we have seen on the ground. and we look forward to this new official working with humanitarian actors and relevant parties, incluing israel. we know so much more needs to be done to address this humanitarian crisis and to lay the groundwork for a lasting peace. let's be clear, hamas has no interest in a lasting peace. hamas is determined to repeat the horrors of october 7th over and over and over again. and that is why the united states supports israel's right to protect its people from acts of terror. i will note that the resolution does not support any steps that

would leave hamas in power, which in turn would undermine the prospects for a two-state solution. gaza and the west bank are reunited under a single government structure, under a revamped and revitalized palestinian authority. we must -- colleagues, we must work towards a future where israelis and palestinians live side by side in peace. this is the only way forward. ultimately, while we are encouraged the council spoke out on this humanitarian crisis, we are deeply disappointed, appalled, actually, that once again, the council was not able to condemn hamas' horrific terrorist attack on october 7th. i can't understand why some council members are standing in the way and why they refuse to

condemn these evils unequivocally. why is it so hard to condemn hamas for slaughtering young people at a concert, for burning families alive, for the reports of widespread sexual violence? why? i will never understand why some council members have remained silent in the face of such evil. but, colleagues, we also believe this council must continue to put its support behind the resumption of humanitarian pauses. israel has made clear that it is committed to reaching another agreement. this is now entirely up to hamas. hamas must agree to additional pauses. that is how we can get additional aid in and save lives and additional hostages out immediately. today, this council spoke out, but we know that only progress on the ground can turn these words into action.

so the united states will continue to work with the u.n., with humanitarian groups, and countries in the region to get more humanitarian aid into gaza, to secure the release of hostages, and to work towards a lasting peace. there is no time to waste. we must find a path forward to end the misery we are seeing. it's unbearable to see a palestinian child shivering in fear after their home was destroyed. it's unbearable to see the families of hostages experience such pain and grief as they frantically await and pray for their loved ones to return. my heart is filled with pain, and i know the same is true for so many people around the world.

so we must work together to alleviate this trau men -- this tremendous suffering once and for all. >> they voted to pass a resolution on gaza aid. important to say that the united states and russia abstained. i want to bring in jay gray who is in jerusalem and retired lieutenant again twitty. twice the united states vetoes two resolutions calling for a cease-fire. now they are abstaining. tell us what you think the significance of this is. does it have no teeth when you have the united states abstaining? >> you are asking me? >> yes, i'm sorry, general.

>> i applaud the diplomatic efforts from the united nations. however, we need deeds, not words on the ground, in gaza. there are 2.2 million people displaced. there's 20,000 innocent civilians that have been killed. there's 50,000 that have been wounded. we have a half a million people that face starvation at this point. we need hamas to stop using the palestinian people as human shields and to lay down their weapons. we need israel to stop the significant bombing campaign and to go to intelligence-driven operations that minimize casualties. and we need them both to support safe passage of humanitarian efforts. so the way i see this, the resolution is great. but we need actions on the ground to protect the people --

the innocent people of gaza. that's where we need to move forward. that's where the diplomatic effort, in my view, should not only come from the u.n. but the arab world, and also there need to be more pressure from the united states to push hamas as well as israel to do the things that i just talked about. >> let's give it some context, jay gray. we heard some of the thingsshe had to say. humanitarian organizations are using the word famine. surgery held without anesthesia. she talked about how unbearable it is to watch a child, a palestinian child shaking after seeiir home destroyed in a bombing. add to that, today we got the news a 73-year-old american, who had been being held hostage, has died. his wife, who you see there, is

believed to still be a hostage. give us the backdrop against this resolution has passed. >> reporter: yeah. let's start with that gentleman. they believe he was killed during the attacks on october 7th and his body was taken by terrorists into gaza along with his injured wife. this was a father of four, a grandfather of seven. someone who was devoted to the kibbutz where he was killed. a lover of music and a chef. someone that his family is mourning. they have said now that they want his body returned, their mother returned and all of the hostages returned. it's putting more pressure on the talks that at this point appear to have stalled. there are a lot of people calling for a resumption of the talks and for a cease-fire, something that israel at this point has said is not going to happen. hamas saying they won't come to

the table again until it does. you look at that and you look at the humanitarian situation unfolding with, as you just heard, one in every four people inside of gaza starving at this point. 90% of the water there is not drinkable. they don't have much water to use and are using it sparingly. doctors are saying that they believe at this point people are dying of both starvation and dehydration. they expect that to only get worse, because the amount of aid isn't enough. on the best day, you see maybe 200 semi-trucks loaded with food, water, and medicine, moving into gaza. on days before the war began, 500 or more semis moving in with supplies for those living in the region. it's a drop in the bucket, a bucket that right now has a hole in the bottom of it. the people on the ground are

struggling mightily. >> general, you mentioned the importance of the involvement of arab nations. there's one arab member of the 15 member council of the united nations general assembly. that is the united arab emirates. they are the ones who sponsored this. the lead negotiator for this week-long back and forth, trying to get this passed, said this. we know this is not a perfect text. we know only a cease-fire will stop the suffering. if it's no on a cease-fire, where does it leave things? >> i think you are correct, it sounds like it's no on a cease-fire. but i think if the israelis can move to intelligence-driven operations, where they are doing precision strikes, going after the hamas leadership, then there can -- they could perhaps open

up some corridors, coming out of egypt, that will allow the safe passage of humanitarian supplies. that's my hope is that we don't get to a cease-fire, at least go to intelligence-driven operations to get humanitarian supplies in to those that need it. >> lieutenant general twitty and jay gray in jerusalem, thank you both. it's a busy holiday travel day. we will head to the busiest airport. we will be right back. we will be right back.

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the holiday travel rush is on, as millions hit of roads and skies. take a look. we have long lines at reagan national airport this morning. tsa expecting to screen 2.5 million people nationwide today. >> we got here early, because my cousin told us it was 3 1/2 hours. so our flight is not until 11:00. >> you guys came really early. >> i don't want to get in the madness. >> joining me now, kathy park at atlanta's airport, and bill karins tracking your forecast. kathy, i'm one of the people who wants to get to the airport, walk on the plane. probably not a smart idea today. right?

>> reporter: yeah. we are here at the busiest airport in the world, in atlanta. all morning law, my crew and i have been commenting how manageable it is. this is supposed po be the busiest travel day. they estimate 86,000 passengers today. tsa plans on screening 2.5 million passengers daily. right now, we looked at the security checkpoint wait list here. they range between five to 17 minutes. that's not too bad. i want to show you the misery map to see what it's like nationwide as far as delays and cancellations. it's 439 delays, two cancellations. we have seen the numbers ticking up slightly throughout the course of the day. earlier today, we had a chance to speak with one air traveller

who decided to get a jump start on the day. take a listen. what time is your flight? >> 11:00. >> reporter: what time did you get here? >> 6:30. >> reporter: wow. why did you want to get here so early? >> it wasn't my idea. the one i'm with, he said, we have to get there early. so we did. now we gotta wait. >> reporter: you wait to check your bags, too? they won't take the bags? >> won't take the bags. >> reporter: better safe than sorry. she didn't have any problems just waiting to get to her flight this morning. if you plan on flying in the next couple days, a couple things to keep in mind. arrive early. probably a good idea to come two to two and a half hours if it's domestic. considering downloading the airline's app. if there are any delays, changes, you can make them quickly on the app. if you drive to the airport, you can save a lot of time by

reserving a parking spot. of course, if something does go wrong, remember to have that backup plan as well. >> i hate the backup plans. thank you. bill karins, i checked my app. >> i never pegged you for the person that would show up last minute. i never pegged you as the i can make it, don't worry about it. have you missed a flight? >> have i missed a flight? no, i don't think i have. >> your strategy works. >> i did once fall. i was bleeding profusely when i got on the flight. that's for another day. >> that story would take up my segment. >> the main thing is, the weather looks okay? >> most places. lax is better today than yesterday. that was the troublesome airport. we will see how sky harbor deals with the rain, that don't typically get a lot of rain. this was the big storm in southern california. we have been watching it the last two to three days. it's on the move. it will weaken a little bit. it will not have as high of an impact. 25 million people with flood

watches. there's no flash flood warnings out there currently. los angeles, that will be dropped at noon local time. that's good. here is how it plays out. by the time we get through this evening, southern california, showers. we will get some snow out of this. you gotta be up there at high elevations. the mountains of utah a little bit. not a lot, but a coating. this is as we go through 4:00 p.m. saturday, rainy weather. if you are in the middle of the country, windshield wipers. houston, i'm a little concerned, if we get thunderstorms as we go throughout saturday afternoon, saturday each. on christmas eve, notice all the green and yellow, that's rainy weather. a little bit of mix, maybe a tiny bit of snow right around fargo, bismarck and south dakota. not a lot. to let you know where we think airplane delays are likely.

tomorrow, salt lake city, in the morning. phoenix as we go through the morning. denver, it looks like rain to a little snow. not high impact. possible delays. i did mention the thunderstorms in houston if you are flying through there, especially hobby airport saturday. sunday, we push that storm into new orleans. this is for christmas eve, anyone traveling. it's interstate 35, 40, right up into kansas city. that's the high impact areas. we have seen it worse heading through the holiday weekend. it's going to be warm. that's the topic most people will talk about. >> no white christmas. nevertheless -- >> not many. even northern maine, no snow. the first time in like 50 years. >> what? >> it's crazy. >> bill, thank you. happy holidays. new questions today over what may have sparked that rare mass shooting in europe that left 14 people dead. the latest from prague next.

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drizly. new questions today over what led to a rare mass shooting in europe. the worst ever in the czech republic. police releasing new bodycam footage of their hunt for a gunman who killed 14 people and injured 25 others when he opened fire on a college campus in prague. police say the 24-year-old was heavily armed and carrying a lot of ammunition. now investigators are looking into whether he was inspired by

another act of violence elsewhere in the world. what more do we know about the shooter and any possibility of getting to his motive? >> reporter: the motive remains unclear at this moment. investigators are trying to figure out why this 24-year-old student of this university committed such a heinous crime and went on this rampage, killing 14 people at that university, and injuring at least 26 others. clearly, there was a lot of planning and preparation that went into this mass shooting. after the student had killed himself, police found a huge cache of weapons. he really knew what he was doing. there are a lot of other questions that are being raised. before he went on this mass shooting, police say that he had

killed his father. the motive to that remains unclear. even more puzzling, a week before he went on this rampage, police believe that he had killed two people in a forest just outside prague. a father and his infant child. the police say there was absolutely no connection to these two people that he had killed in the forest. initially, police were looking at 4,000 suspects in that area. he wasn't one of the prime suspects because of that lack of connection. now they have realized from ballistic effort that they found in his house, that there was a connection to the evidence that they found in the forest. all of this is just making people here even more upset. people here in prague are trying to make sense of this senseless crime. all over prague, there are vigils. people are trying to come to terms with the most terrible mass shooting that happened in

this country. also, at holiday season when people come together, families are showing a lot of love. this is really putting a dent in the community. this investigation is obviously going to good on much further. there's a lot more details to come out. they want to figure out exactly how many arms he had. he had at least eight weapons. now they are saying he possibly converted a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic rifle. they want to figure out how he did all of this. at the moment, there are a lot more questions than answers. police are also staying tight-lipped on this. it's an ongoing investigation. hopefully, we will get more details in the coming days and weeks. >> thank you. coming up, rising from the ashes. nbc news gets a look at notre dame's cathedral restoration and the iconic spire returning to the paris skyline more than four years after a devastating fire.

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inside look at how the iconic building is coming back to life. >> the inferno back in april 2019 was devastating, tearing through the interior of the church consuming 800 years of history in minutes. four years on to see how far the restoration has come going 300 feet straight up to a tiny exposed platform, spectacular views of paris. meet phillip jost, overseeing this mammoth project. >> so this is the spire that went crashing down? we all watched it all around the world. >> around the world. >> oh, my god, those people just fell inside the church. >> it's a very important moment when now the spire is rebuilt. and this is the golden rooster. >> it's fantastic. we're very happy to have done that. >> the original rooster weather

vane was thought lost but miraculously survived. just last weekend, this new rooster was blessed and placed gently on its perch. it contains holy relics, pieces of what is said to be the crown of thorns. >> it was a very, very emotional moment and symbolic moment. >> it's a phoenix from the ashes. >> exactly. or a rooster from the ashes! now philippe and i descend into the knave, the heart of notre dame. >> there was a hole in the ceiling. >> a big hole in the ceiling. >> reporter: now it's being built better with advanced fire protection while expert carpenters use medieval tools, roof timbers together like a giant puzzle. >> a lot of people have given a lot for this, including many people donating from the u.s. >> $30 million. >> $30 million. >> $30 million. >> donations that are helping to

reveal more of the cathedral's wonders, the vivid colors of priceless masterpieces brought back to life, stone cleaned and these statues rescued from the fire have been lovingly revived. new gargoyles are being sculpted and will soon take their place high on the wall of this, the most famous cathedral in the world. >> wow, that's amazing. i covered that fire and seeing it now and seeing the way it's coming back, it's really something. a lot of people putting in a lot of hard work. still ahead, the massive humanitarian crisis happening on the southern border as we speak. the new steps the biden administration says it's ready to take in our next hour.

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