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politicsnation. tonight's lead, a christmas blizzard. right now, americans are preparing to celebrate christmas in the midst of a blizzard of legal developments surrounding donald trump. in just the last five days, the supreme has blocked special counsel jack smith's request to expedite a ruling on whether trump has legal immunity over his january 6th conduct. earlier, new recordings published by the detroit news reportedly showed trump pressing republican electors in michigan not to certify joe
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biden's victory in the state. three years ago. the state supreme court justices in colorado have been reporting death threats all week since they ruled that trump could not run for office in the state. all that plus what to expect when the senate comes back to washington next month. in new york governor kathy hochul joins me shortly as the empire state officially takes up the question of reparations for its black residents. i had a firsthand view this week as head of the national action network of the governor's declaration if you want to hear why she says the time is now to discuss this issue. all that tonight on this holiday weekend politicsnation. joining me now is senator bob casey, democrat of pennsylvania. senator, thank you for joining
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us tonight. i want to talk to you about your race to keep your seat. but i must ask you first about the landmark decision this week in colorado. where the state supreme court ruled donald trump can and must be removed from the 2024 presidential primary ballot in the state over his conduct on january 6th insurrection. just before that decision, the secretary of state in maine said that she will decide next week whether trump stays on the ballot there. i'll remind our viewers, a number of colorado supreme court justices have faced death threats since tuesday's decision. do you see this becoming a multi state movement to keep trump off the balance senator? >> reverend, au gres to be with you, thanks for having me on. i think first and foremost, we'll have to see what the courts do.
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in various states. in what states do. but i think this is a reminder of something you've been working on a long time. which is the focus that we have to have on the threat to democracy and voting rights. i'll give you an example, you mentioned by race, i'm running against david mccormack, who is supported by a number of these trump fake electors. in fact, one of them was running a political action committee for him. that's the threat we face. the very threat to democracy, which is ongoing. it's not like it ended when the insurrection on the 6th of january of 2021 and. it that threat is still there and the threat to voting rights is ongoing. you see so many states passing these draconian voting rights bills. that disenfranchise people. so, that's gonna be a big issue in my race. and i hope that folks are fighting the same battle back home on democracy in voting rights will go to our website
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bob casey.com. >> that's the real issue, democracy. that's not a slogan we're talking about robbing americans of the right to vote. by having electors that overturned the will of the people that were voted on. let me go to this, and i want to come back to that. the senator during this week, without being able to reach a compromise on aid to ukraine and security measures for our southern border. this means that congress will be pressed to take these matters up when it reconvenes. along with other crucial business like averting a government shutdown. over federal funding. what are you expecting to happen in the coming first weeks of 2024, senator? >> reverend al, i was terribly frustrated that we didn't get the bill that has a couple of elements to. it aid for ukraine is what got the most attention, you mentioned the border policy, the president and democrats have been supporting border
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security funding for a long time. and that, for me, in pennsylvania, that comes to down to one word. fentanyl. whether or not we're gonna make the investments at ports of entry to screen these great devices that have been invented to screen cargo and vehicles so we can detect fentanyl at the border. we have come forward with a proposed a billion dollars to do that. so, i think we'll get it done. it is frustrating that is taken this long. i think we will get it done in early january. but then as you mentioned, you have to immediately start right away on avoiding a government shutdown, because of the extreme maga republicans in the house. >> and when you mentioned fentanyl, we've talked about life or death situations here. well people are playing political posturing games. on the other side, let me raise this, president biden was in milwaukee this week, touting his economic record to the city's black voters as polls
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continuing to show him losing some black support nationally. your state flipped for biden in 2020. thanks, in part, to black voters. are you worried about how his struggles might affect your own senate race in pennsylvania, where you've had a strong black vote? >> well, i think it's really a question for me as a candidate. and i'll focus on what i've got a new. i think the president and other democrats should as well. what i have to do is earn the vote of black voters and all voters. and that means a couple things. that means showing up, it means listening. and it means delivering. and making sure people are reminded about what we've, done what we've delivered to help whether it's focusing on childcare and helping our families. democrats like me had a great record on that. if democrats have a good record on low and costs. i put out a report a couple of weeks ago on reinflation.
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which a lot of folks in low income communities have been dealing with for years, where corporations are getting these huge profits, record profits, and they're jacking up the prices that end up in the grocery store terribly high prices that low income folks and middle class families are paying every day the week. so, we've got to remind voters what we've been doing. we also have to remind them what's at stake. in this race, the stakes could not be higher. on just one word, you can just boil it down to one word, right. voting rights, women's rights, workers rights. they're all on the line here. the difference between my opponent, who doesn't support any of the efforts we've undertaken on voting rights, he doesn't support our efforts to provide the child tax credit to families that allowed families to use those extra dollars to purchase food. he doesn't support any of the measures that we have undertaken to protect voting rights, women's rights, and
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workers rights. >> before i let you go, i must ask you about this this week. u.s. steel an icon of 20s central american industries have announced that it would be sold to a japanese steel manufacturer. president biden said, after the news broke, that the 14 billion dollar sale deserved quote serious scrutiny. and you've warned of pain for your constituents employed at the company's pittsburgh headquarters. what's at stake for them in the nation with the sale? >> it's a good reminder, al, of what's at stake in the next election. u.s. steel is an iconic company, as you mentioned. i think one of the iconic unions in the country is the steel workers union. they were not consulted on this. u.s. steel entered into this deal, this proposed deal with -- without the input of steel workers. that does not bode well for those still workers or american
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industry. i would hope that u.s. steel would reconsider this offer and find an american steelmaker so that we can continue to have an american-based steel company. the biggest concern i have is for the workers and the impact on workers and their families and the economy of pennsylvania. so, i'm glad that the president will get it under close strict scrutiny. >> thank you senator bob kennedy for being with us again tonight. coming up, new york state is forming its first exploratory commission on reparations for its black residents. why now? we'll ask the governor directly in just a moment. but first, a quick update on a story we covered on the show. a verdict has been reached in the manslaughter trial of two colorado paramedics. they were charged in the death of elijah mcclain. a black pedestrian who was given a lethal dose of ketamine
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kathy hochul made a huge step towards preparative justice. by establishing a commission to look at ways to compensate the descendants of enslaved people. in my capacity as president of national action network, i was there to witness this historic
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day. the beginnings of a process to repair damage that was done. because i believe you cannot heal unless you deal with the wounds of the past. the battle for civil rights is not just below the mason-dixon line. the largest ports for slave trade was in charleston, south carolina, and wall street, new york. for blacks were put on auction blocks and sold like a bar of soap. the work of the commission will be to take the veil off northern inequality, and right the wrongs that have impacted the lives of black new yorkers throughout history to this present moment. heroes like marcus garvey, adam played powell, kristen sutton and shirley chisholm. who fought every single step of the way to stand up for equality where nothing was given. not just in new york. but across this country, in the
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world. the issue of reparations is just as relevant today as it ones when i was a teenager. going to reparation rallies with queen mother -- and later in life, working with people like doctor ronna daniels and bishop -- back then it was not unpopular thing to talk about. and people were marginalized for even raising the issue. black americans are still dealing with racial injustice today. mass incarceration. health disparities. and wealth inequality. as blacks are making 70 cents to every dollar way to make. in order to heal, we must acknowledge the hurt and damage that was done. and the effects of the past that are felt today. that's what boston mayor rachel wounded recently. when she issued a formal apology to two black men who were wrongfully accused in a 1989 murder of a white woman.
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which deepened racial divisions in the city. those men had their lives ruined, and they're still facing hardships even after it was revealed that the woman's husband shot her. and blamed it on a black man. it's important to rise up and not be dissuaded by attempts to make it seem like reparations aren't necessary. this push isn't just for past atrocities, but the challenges black americans face today. we are greater together when we do more to even the playing field. governor hochul is doing it in new york, it can be an example for the nation. she joins me after a short break. for more about this new initiative. we'll be right back. be right back.
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new york state was enslaved in some fashion. slavery was eventually outlined in the empire state, in 1827. but both before and after that, new york city was a major hub for the practice as a lifelong new yorker, i thought about all of this when i was ahead of national action network, i joined governor kathy hochul as the state formed its first exploratory commission for reparations. for its black residents. joining me now, is new york governor kathy hochul a democrat. governor hochul, thank you for being with us. let me say a, at the outset, as it was argued in the new york state senate in the new york state assembly, and we had people like state senator james sanders and senator michel -- in the assembly, fighting and pushing for this.
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led by, of course carl hasty in the senate leader -- helping to advocate. you wrestled with this. and you came to a decision that it was not a thing to deal with politically. but to do what is right to your state. i remember, as we had the mask of ten blacks and buffalo, you went to just about every funeral instead with those families. you said to me at the last funeral, we've got to heal these wounds right now. that was the same woman i saw tell me -- i want you to be there in speak. it's not about handing up money or what it was not a lot of here. we're talking about a real study to find out how we deal with the wounds of the past and to bring things together. several cities and states of california and illinois have explored, if not allocated reparations to their black residents.
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you and i, as i said, have had deep talks about this. and why you feel new york states turn to take up this position and exploratory commission. can you tell my audience what you told me about why you felt this was the time to do it in a methodical, serious way? >> reverend, thank you for being there to witness history in the state of new york. there's so much division in our country today. religious division, racial division, ethnic division. and it's time for us as leaders to step up and say, let's heal. healing is easy to say but really hard to accomplish. my thought was, yes, this could be polarizing. this could be divisive itself. i, as the head of new york state if i step up and say what my journey was to come here, as someone who grew up in a blue collar town in seattle, the bathroom still plant, my grandparents were to the steel plant, my dad were to the steel
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plant. i come from that world which was very homogeneous like many others. it's time for us to start understanding each other. and having more empathy. we cannot, as new yorkers, ignore the disturbing history that there was a flourishing slave trade, not just in the south that everybody knew about, but right on wall street. and those slaves, literally built the foundation of our economy in the state of new york and generations later, their families are not benefiting in any sense compared to whites when it comes to homeownership, when it comes to health outcomes i mean, my god, the rates of infant and child and maternal mortality among black women and black children, as a mom, it's heartbreaking. so, we have to step up and say we have to find ways for there to be more generational wealth. access to the best education access to the best jobs. this is the start of a conversation that is long
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overdue. it's a reckoning to let people know that racism is alive and well, and even a place like new york, as you and i witnessed, when this white supremacists who had his mind so polluted by going on social media, a teenager drove through a half hours to my hometown, went to buffalo, went to a tops grocery store not far from where i lived, and murdered people not randomly animal, not readily at a college campus. but targeted because of the color of their skin and that was one year and half ago. so, the reality is, racism did not end with slavery. the vestiges are still here today. and i can't say i can bend the arc of the moral universe with one hand. but teaming up with other new yorkers like-minded individuals who have those hard conversations. maybe it's the start of some healing, not just in new york, but for the nation. >> i want to emphasize the core of what new york and other states and many cities have done. or will do when taking
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reparations. which is not just looking at slavery itself with the subsequent impacts of slavery and jim crow on black residents, often over several generations, as you just mentioned. can you tell us what those impacts look like in a highly diverse state like new york? you governed and have to deal with manny communities. but in terms of just the descendants of slaves in new york, it is still a disproportionate impact. that this commission has to look at. as part of how we try to even the playing field. >> in the statistics are there, and the shocking. when you think about the fact that immigrants like my irish immigrant when parents came over on the boat, they had an opportunity to say, i want to pursue a better life for my family. they willingly got on a ship and they came here, and yes, they had discrimination at first. but two generations, later the daughter is the governor. that's what has happened
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throughout our history. except for those who didn't come by choice for a better life. they were dragged from their homes in chains and thrown not on the first deck, but in steerage. and had to suffer and endured indignities not just as slaves, but those vestiges are real today. and we cannot turn a blind eye to those horrific statistics on why there's not wealth accumulated, why they're so little homeownership. policies like redlining. and homeownership discrimination that my parents fought against as 20 something a young couple fighting for social justice and racial justice back in the 60s, they tried and all these years later, the numbers are just as shocking. so, it's homeownership, it's building wells access to the best jobs. and the health outcomes. desperately need to improve. when you think about the number of people, people of color who died from covid in disproportionate numbers to whites. you have to say, what is going on here?
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we need to peel back and look at all those areas, whether it's incredible disparities, and really work together. because if one part of our community is still lagging behind, that affects everyone. and that's what we should have in this conversation. well everyone new york should be interested in the outcome of lifting everyone up. allowing them to have at least get on the next run in the letters of opportunity in the state of new york. >> now, let me bring this to. you yesterday, president biden pardoned americans with certain marijuana offenses. he also pardoned a number of nonviolent offenders incarcerated for marijuana charges. some of them previously serving mandatory life sentences. last month, you signed new york's clean slate act into law. sealing the records overtime of those convicted of certain nonviolent felonies and misdemeanors. going back to the timing of, why are criminal reform efforts so important?
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and why are they happening now? >> first of all, better late than never because i should've happened a long time ago. that being said, what is fascinating about the clean slate bill in new york that i just signed, this was driven by not just public defenders and families of people who had served time in jail, but also the business community. right now, there are so many opportunities for jobs in the state of new york, i have 460,000 open jobs. you want to job, you come to new york. employers say, wait a minute, these are individuals over 200,000 people, who paid their debt to society, these are not people who escaped, there are people who never did the time. they paid their debt to society, and because of their record, they're still prohibited from being able to even get a job to take care of their families? my view is, the best crime fighting tool i have is to give someone a job. that's what this is about. now, very serious offenses.
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murders and sex offenders. their sleep does not get wiped clean. so many others, who aren't able to have gainful employment because of that mark on the record, even from decades ago, it's a barrier for them to be on the take care of themselves, their families. otherwise, they have no alternative but to be repeat offenders, and that is not good for society. the employees were so happy that they now have people that they can embrace, part of their family, give them a job, and let them take care of their family, that's the beauty of all this. >> i'm out of time, i want to ask you about the issue of abortion. you recently criticized texas abortion ban, following the news that this month that a state resident would be forced to carry an unborn child to term. despite the child likely dying from a genetic defect. upon with. she had to flee texas in order to have the procedurperformed. then this week, we learned that a black woman in ohio has been
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charged with a felony for felony abuse of a corpse after she miscarried into a toilet three months ago after which she was later hospitalized for near fatal blood loss. looking at stories like these, do you think abortion will be the national issue that drives turnout for democrats with women specifically in 2024? >> it certainly will. because if anyone thought that the supreme court of the united states decision in dobbs was just a one and done and it has no effect, look at what has happened in states like texas. and florida. and ohio. these are real women who are being oppressed by predominantly men. maga republicans, extremists, who want to dominate over women's bodies. that is the first -- i find reprehensible. it is shocking to me, as a new
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grandmother of a one and a half-year-old little girl, that she has less rights than i had growing up, or my daughter head, we have to take back our country. and women will be leading the charge in the 2024 elections. and to ensure that we will have on the bell in new york state a constitutional amendment that says that the right to an abortion is in trying to not constitution, and i encourage the women of this country to rise up if you're in a state that does not allow abortion to be legal and safe. then get it on the bell. petition to get on the ballot. get it on the ballot and vote. and if you don't get the outcome you need, vote with your feet, come to new york. we here in new york, we actually respect women's rights. >> all right, i'm gonna have to leave it there. thank you so much for being with us. new york governor kathy hochul. let's bring in tonight's political panel, maya -- cummings the former chair of
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maryland democratic party. and amy toro cann. former chair of the nevada state gop. amy, let's start with the recording obtained by the detroit news that i referred to earlier. in the program. this rep on former president donald trump in the rnc chair ronna mcdaniel pressuring to republican canvassers in michigan not to certify the 2024 presidential election results. during a phone call days after the election. nbc has not heard or verify the audio recordings. but this is just the latest phone call that we know about where trump was directly involved in efforts to overturn the election. what does this suggest, maya, about the scope of trump's attempts to override the will of the people, targeting states with large black populations at that?
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>> yeah, so, donald trump has, it would've been anyone else except for donald trump, he would've been under the jailhouse already. but the fact of the matter is, trump engaged in a broad scale attempt to overthrow the election by illegal means. he was involved an insurrection. thank god for the january six commission. they laid it out clear. we saw the scope of what was involved. we knew that involved trump actually intimidating elected and appointed officials in certainly michigan. certainly in georgia. and other places so you, you know, we have all this evidence, and yet, we're still litigating this in the courts. i expect, you know, certainly jack smith and certainly the other judges who are overseeing these cases to take all this information, this new information in tried. and to add it to the body of evidence, the large body of evidence i might add, that we
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already have, that trump is an insurrectionist. d he's in violation of the 14thmendment of the constitution section three. >> amy, another legal issue involving trump, the source tells nbc that trump's legal team plans to appeal th decision in colorado after christmas. following the state supreme court's ruling that bars them from which republican primary for violating the 14th amendment insurrection clause. the deadline for an appeal is january 4th. and once it's filed, the state will be issued, leaving trump on the ballot for the time being. how critical is the federal supreme court's ruling if they take up the case? and what implications could it have on the 2024 presidential race? >> sure, well, unfortunately, i think whether you believe is an insurrectionist or not, which i actually happen to believe that he had a major role in january six year gonna see his base dig
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their heels in and it's only gonna slow solidify his martyr status. it is pretty grotesque. it is where we're at, unfortunately. i don't know if the colorado supreme court was hoping that they were just going to take the bull by the horns and hope that it would implore other dates to follow suit and give them courage so to speak. but i do think, in the end, we're gonna see probably the supreme court to do a little bit of wordplay. because you mentioned he may or may not be an insurrectionist, but this is gonna be wordplay. because he's not been convicted of being an insurrectionist. as of yet. so, we were kind of in this position where we're gonna have to sit and wait patiently and see what they're going to do with the definition of actually where he is at currently. now, as far as the whole audio recording of ronna mcdaniel and donald trump putting pressure on this individual not to solidify and certify the election, it's no surprise. we also saw a trickle down.
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the bullying tactics to from the top. the trickle down even here in the state of nevada. to win had six nevada gop leaders that were also indicted who are being fake electors. and they also put the pressure on our secretary of state at the time, who was a republican, who refused to kowtow to the shenanigans and they ended up censuring her. this is something that we're seeing as a pattern. with the whole trump administration the people who basically see that he can do no wrong. and believe that he is the only answer forr nation to move foard. it's not an okay situation. >> amy, sticking with, you on thursday, rudy giuliani filed for bankruptcy in federal court. this comes less than a week after a jury ordered him to pay nearly $150 million to two former georgia election workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss. who he defamed. giuliani is also facing several
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other lawsuits. what's the lesson learned here and will other republicans take heed. briefly, please. >> sure, well, you'd hope so. you'd hope this would be a very big come to jesus moment. it sure seems like we have some stubborn individuals on the republican side. and it seems like they're going to continue to push and they're probably gonna find themselves in the same scenario. maybe not quite as expensive. bu they're gonna find themselves in world of trouble. >> maya, yesterday was the -- high score or the republican state led legislature. to draw a new legislative boundaries ahead of the 2024 election. arguing the current gop maps are unconstitutional. this is a win for the state democrats who have been in the legislature's minority for more than a decade. how significant is this ruling in a battleground state like wisconsin? >> it is actually huge.
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what this does, it's going to require the entire assembly in the state of wisconsin to run again. and half the senate will have to run again as well. it's a huge scramble. that's likely that the senate can be taken over by the democrats well the assembly is not expected to be. but let me just say this, in terms of all of the swing states in this upcoming election, wisconsin was the one where voters in the recent poll expressed the most skepticism about another donald trump when. so, i fully expect that with these new maps, they're gonna be in place as well as the perspective of the voters in the state, that this could be a win in the democratic column for the presidency as well. every vote is gonna count in this upcoming election. wisconsin is gonna matter big-time. >> all right, amy in my, a thank you bothr being with us. a quick note.
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now to a documentary that is now available on streaming services covering dublin county, north carolina. an area that lives along the black belt in the american south. historically, it was the state of slave plantations. today, it is an area where a growing -- industry has come into conflict with the health and safety of its residents. the documentary is called the smell of money. focusing on the communities effort to fight back against what they are calling an environmental injustice. joining me now are the filmmakers behind it, director producer and cinematographer
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and editor sean bennett. and writer producer jamie burger. thank you both for joining me. sean, please tell -- please describe what you saw in dublin county that alarmed you. and what inspired the title of this film? >> i mean, the close proximity that the residents lived to these huge factory farms is alarming. as soon as you there, i, mean they're spring hog waste right on these peoples homes. that's really, really disturbing. the smell of money, the title is something the residents are essentially told don't worry about the smell. that's the smell of money. it's one of those things, and that's the hogwash they're talking about. there's hog waste that's being sprayed, huge lagoons and that's how the name came about. >> you spent three years filming in this country. in this community. and the film focuses on a woman
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named elsie herring. who, in the spring of 2021, was suddenly diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. during the production of this film. she and forcefully passed away in may of that year. for our viewers, take a listen to some of her story. >> my grandfather was born on this later learned, he was a slave. this land has been my family for 100 years. it's very prevalent. i was released to. that's a deadly gas. methane gas is released. i mean, there is gases that are being released and we have to breathe the stuff in. so, this is not good. >> now, i want to know that none of the companies that operate in dublin county have acknowledged elsie's cancer or her death. jamie, what have been the biggest takeaways from her activism and her story? >> i think elsie was fighting for fundamental rights. that many of us take for
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granted. she was fighting for basic freedoms that all americans deserve. the right to breathe clean air. the right to drink clean water. to enjoy her property. this is land that had been in her family since her grandfather purchased it after he was freed from slavery. so, for her, this was not only about getting environmental justice, addressing the pollution in her community, but securing her families and her communities right to the land that had been in their families for so many generations that was so critical to them. so, this was, again, something that elsie and many other activists fought for 4:30 plus years now at this time. >> sean, just to be clear, i'm assuming you reached out for comment and smithfield foods has never acknowledged elsie's cancer. nor has any other company with operations in her region. is that right? >> that is correct, we reached out to them dozens of times.
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i mean, we saw them in person one time and try to get them to comment. we didn't get anything. we got like a letter that they send to everybody essentially. >> jamie, you were born and raised in north carolina. can you describe the impact that elsie's in the communities activism had on the fight against pork factory farming in the injustice it brought to dublin county? >> well, i think kelsey was an inspiration for so many people who had been struggling against this injustice for so many years. the fact that she persevered despite the fact that her family and her were constantly harassed and intimidated by this industry. they knew that they were fighting for something that was, you know, something worth believing in. something worth giving your life to. so, i think when she passed away, it was a huge, huge traumatic experience for the other residents in that area.
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they lost a spokesperson for this issue. they lost someone who was willing to take personal risks to speak up against this injustice. and i think we all have learned so much from her and for me, i take away the idea that we have to keep fighting we can't give up never give up. even if we're against huge, huge multinational corporations, and these injustices that they have really drawn on decades of history from. their inspiration for the injustice that their inflicting has come from a legacy that these communities have been since the time of slavery.ears >> north carolina's current reissued economic and political tensions are echoed in this film. in the divides between urban and rural as well as rich and poor are evident. where does the future of dublin county stand now? and how is the community
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continuing to grapple with the effects of environmental racism? >> i mean, even after they won this lawsuit, unfortunately, the hog industry did not have to change the practices. you have hog waste still being sprayed on these communities. the poultry industry has moved in to a lot of these committees as well. factory farming is really thriving in these communities still. the residents are still feeling the impacts. things do need to change. they do need to make restrictions that you can't have 26 factory farms in a couple of miles of families homes. which rene miller in our movie there's just so many factory farms surrounding her family, that is to change. >> sean and jamie, thank you both for being with us tonight. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. stay with us drizly! in closing tonight, i want to stock up today, sip well, tomorrow. drizly. all right, sheila,
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>> we are back, it's time for our politics nation favorite, that albert elfrid c sharpton blueberry pie lifetime achievement award. every year, we look around and ask, who has the most blueberry pie on their face? my first nominee is former new york representative, george santos. we'll have to send him his slice in the mail. since he's no longer welcome on capitol hill. >> that is tomorrow, sunday five pm eastern, right here on msnbc. after the break, american voices with alicia menendez starts right after the. brick happy holidays. ppy holidays
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