talking about with molly, republicans, for years, i want to just lose trust in the system from gerrymandering to voter suppression laws -- so you feel like it's inevitable. you can't beat them so you check out the system. when we check in, we. when we check, out they wind. we have to check out bacon 2024. >> absolutely right about that. thanks to both of you -- social corresponded for vanity fair and host a fast politics podcast -- and host of siriusxm's the dean show. still ahead, colorado supreme court has ruled that trump's constitutionally ineligible to appear on the states primary ballot. i am gonna speak with the colorado secretary of state, janet griswold, right after this. another hour of velshi begins right now. >> good morning. it's sunday, december 24th. i'm ali velshi. won't be much time to rest and relax this holiday season for donald trump and his legal

team. the four times indicted former president is in the middle of a very complicated legal situation as he faces 91 criminal charges related to his conduct before, during, and after his presidency. a civil fraud trial in new york for threatens the future of his real estate empire while a different civil it hold him liable of sexually abusing the writer and columnist, e. jean carroll. carol is also suing trump in a second defamation trial over commentshahe made on cnn in may about her. late last night, donald trump filed a brief to the d.c. court of appeals, continuing to assert that he's immune from prosecution for actually committed while president, specifically for his role in questioning the results of the 2020 election. of course, the allegation is not that a question the results of the 2020 election, anyone is entitled to do that, it's that he did something to try and overcome those results. the immunity argument is the argument he's making in the hopes of getting jack smith's criminal election interference case against him dismissed. it's an effort that also has

the potential to upend fani willis's sprawling election interference case in fulton county, georgia. not to mention the fact that if trump succeeds in his claim of immunity, it could reshape our collective understanding of the powers of the presidency. meanwhile, the colorado supreme court ruled last week that donald trump is ineligible to appear on that stage primary ballot based on the disqualification clause and section three of the 14th amendment of the constitution. trump's lawyers have indicated that they will appeal that ruling. trump has until january 4th to file an appeal to the supreme court, one day before colorado secretary of state, with whom i will speak in a moment, is due to certify the candidates for the primary ballot. candidates fo the primary ballit will not to e colorado supreme court order, colorado could potentially remain on the ballot until the supreme court of the united states itself resolve the matter one way or another. it's a historic decision that could completely shake up the 2024 presidential race, which officially kicks off in a few

weeks with iowa caucuses. the decision is already causing turmoil in colorado. the state gop has floated the idea switching from a primary to a caucus. a plan that face major legal and logistical hurdles with only about two and a half months left before the state is scheduled to hold its nominating contest. immediately after news of that ruling in colorado broke, by the way, violent rhetoric online surged. members of the colorado supreme court received a wave of violent threats on social media and other websites, according to a report by the nonprofit, nonpartisan organization, advanced democracy. one pro trump online forum, when years ared, quote, what you call seven justices from the colorado supreme court at the bottom of the ocean? a good start. as well, saying in a statement they're working with local law enforcement and will, quote, vigorously pursue investigations of any threat or use of violence committed by someone who uses extremist views to justify their actions, regardless of motivation, and quote.

colorado is a test case for a constitutional challenge that has never been applied to a former president before, let alone the current front runner for the republican nomination. like many other states, colorado was supposed to be preparing to administer its primary. a lot of things remain unclear. this is uncharted territory. adds even more uncertainty to what is already shaping up to be the most uncertain election season in modern history. joining me now is the colorado, the top election official in colorado, jenna griswold. the secretary of state of colorado, she's the chair of the democratic association of secretaries of state, she's a champion for democracy and a good friend of our show. secretary grew as well, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> we had a conversation about this very early on. you, like every secretary of state in the country who is responsible for running elections in your state, we have the same response. is that it is not likely going to end with you. in other words, while one could, on paper, so you're the final

arbiter of these things, you knew full well that this could go before the courts, this has now gone before the courts two times in colorado. it's gone before the courts in new mexico, it will go before other courts as well. where do you stand right now and what has been decided? how do you move forward in colorado based on what has happened? >> well, two courts have looked at whether donald trump is disqualified and whether he engaged in insurrection. both have determined at this point that he did engage an insurrection. the colorado supreme court, of course, has disqualified him from the colorado ballot. ali, i agree with the colorado supreme court. i have said, gosh, for quite some time, donald trump has incited the insurrection. there should not be a loophole for inciting insurrection for the presidency. just like you, we'll wait to see if an appeal is filed to the united states supreme court and whether the united states supreme court decides to

intervene in the case. >> i want to ask you about something, you know, judge luttig and lawrence tribe have been at the forefront of this discussion for a long time. that was what the colorado case was the one that was probably the most important. judge luttig was on the show yesterday, taking exception to some of the discussions going on in the united states to say, this would be unsatisfying, to have donald trump disqualified for this legal matter. the interpretation of section through the 14th amendment would be less satisfying than if they had donald trump on the ballot and had people not elect him as president. judge luttig said those are separate and unrelated arguments. the legal matter needs to be pursued is a legal matter. >> that's right. my job is to follow the law and uphold the constitution. when there is big questions about whether something is constitutional or not, it's appropriate to go to the courts. at the end of the day, we're only, at this point, because donald trump tried to

disenfranchise americans across the country when he tried to steal the presidency in 2020. that was not satisfying. he lost that election. i think the idea that we move forward and just ignore what happened throughout 2020 and the attacks on democracy afterwards, it's also very dangerous. we know he's a threat to this country, he's a threat to voting rights, to the right to choose. he is a threat to the stability of this nation. the idea that we have an election and he loses and accept the results if he does lose, it's not going to happen. we are very likely going to be in a similar situation that we are and in 2020. >> you said it's dangerous, you mean that for democracy, but as i mentioned in the introduction, it is specifically dangerous, i only read one of the threats that have been made to the justices of the colorado

supreme court, there are many, some are worse. what is it like? how do you deal with that situation? what's it like to be you? you've been hearing from people about this since day one. >> it's scary to tell you the truth. you know, i was the defendant in this case, i did not -- six republican unaffiliated voters chose to bring the case. within three weeks of it being filed, i had 64 death threats. since the decision, i received dozens of death threats that judges have been swamped with death threats. we stayed in reporting. i'll tell you, it's one of the reasons donald trump is a danger to this country. in this country, people win and lose court cases, people win and lose elections. we have to agree that the system has the outcomes that are correct, that our elections are fair, that justices are

going to be looking at the law in colorado and applying it correctly the use of violence to try to intimidate us. is unacceptable in a democracy. they are not going to intimidate me. i will tell you, it's been a really scary situation that i've been living since 2021. when you are in these positions, you largely feel abandoned by the federal government in many state government actors. like you're on an island. we are gonna be pushing forward to make sure that democracy remains intact and that we uphold the constitution. >> let me ask you about the practicality of your job right now. the reporting has been that you actually have to start dealing with ballots for the republican primary starting on january 5th. this ruling is state until january 4th, presumably to allow donald trump and his team to appeal if they choose to do so. they've indicated they will. what practically happens for

you? do you move ahead on january 5th? what happens? what do you do? >> so, we'll have, of course, two presidential primaries in colorado, the democratic primary, the republican primary. ali, in your intro, you have spotlighted that the colorado republican party is threatening to cancel the primary. i want to make it clear that that is not illegal option for them. we will have a republican primary in the state of colorado, just like normal. coloradans overwhelmingly voted to have presidential primaries, that's what we're gonna do. in terms of the certification date, which is on january 5th, that's the day that i state to the counties, the candidates officially on the ballot, just like you, we'll wait and see to whether the supreme court takes the case, whether an appeal is

filed. as of now, none of that has happened. donald trump, as of now, is disqualified from the colorado ballot. >> janet griswold, i've said it before too many times, years ago i had never spoken to the secretary of state at all in the country. i probably couldn't name most of them. now, i have gotten to know so many of you, thank you, i appreciate the work you do in making sure that our elections are safe and that democracy is upheld. we'll continue to stay close to on the story. janet griswold is colorado secretary of state. 2020 through his wild year for politics. how could you forget that mugshot? msnbc looks back on the top political moments of the year on youtube. head to msnbc.com slash 2023. msnbc.com slash 2023 to check out the year or maybe like me just don't want to. all right, still ahead, i'll speak with a friend who goes wherever the need is there, wherever the disaster zone

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joining me now is elizabeth price. she's a former postconflict resilience expert for the united nations development program but more importantly she is the mother of hisham awartani, the 20 year old palestinians didn't from brown university who was shot last month in burlington, vermont. thank you for being with us this morning. i want to start asking you before i have a discussion with you how hisham is doing. >> hisham is resolute, determined, and facing severe challenges. he currently has what they call an incomplete spinal injury which means that the communication between the brain and the legs is disrupted.

he is in a neurological rehab right now with the goal of trying to reactivate that communication as much as possible. he draws great strength from his experience of being palestinian. there is an expression which means steadfast in palestine. i think that is where he is really getting his strength, understanding that even though he has had this horrific thing happened to him he is luckier than many palestinians right now and we have seen how palestinians have become -- he's determined to find his path forward regardless of this tragic blow to his back, literally. >> was it an active decision to have him spend the holidays in the united states because of the increased tension? we talk a lot about gaza. in the west bank, in ramallah, there's been increased tension for the last year. it has increased a great deal of since october 7th. we have been talking about a four-year.

it's a rough place to be these days. >> yeah, i wanted him to come back. i was pushing him to come back. i wanted to get my hands on him. his father who grew up in palestine did not want him to come back. he had good reason. i mean, what happened in burlington, i call it a lightning strike from the national weather system. there is a growing dehumanization of palestinians in the u.s. and it led to one man randomly taking this act to commit a hate crime. in palestine, the systemic killing of palestinians, and too many of them are children. the israeli ngo is breaking the silence has concluded that palestinian civilians, including children, are seen as legitimate targets and settlers. when i was in palestine in october, i saw a well-documented incident where

a settler walked up to a man on the outskirts of the man's village while a soldier watched and he stuck his rifle into the men's stomach and pulled the trigger and then walked away. i mean, the indictments against the prosecution of settlers never goes anywhere. as an example of how the soldiers and settlers are able to get away with this, another israeli ngo found that 1% of complaints against israeli soldiers for actions like this resulted in indictment. basically, the israeli soldiers and the israeli settlers can get away with killing. in the last two months, they've managed to kill as many palestinians in the last few months as -- you can find yourself dead at any age and too many children have died. my husband was really worried about bringing my son back. >> you just talked about

breaking the silence. we had the executive director on just last hour talking about this. in part, this issue of dehumanization, it has now spanned both the israeli palestinian conflict and what is happening here in the united states. there's a remarkable dehumanization which has worked its way into this conflict, some of it on college campuses, some of it amongst young people. you would like that to stop on all fronts, whoever is doing the dehumanization. you are sort of a living example of being able to see how people live. i think what you have determined in your 25 years in the palestinian territory is that everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time, water safety, security, food, health care for their children. the holidays. somehow, that is not how it works between israel and palestine. >> i mean, like all conflicts, the conflict between israel and palestine's resource based in

has nothing to do with the religion. jews and muslims and christians are all people of the book. it's wasteful of anyone's time to go through and discuss whether it's a religious conflict or how long it has been going on. it's about control over resources because the west bank has lots of aquifers and fertile ground. it's about wanting to have as much land as possible. there is a way for people to show that. i think this is being driven by agendas which are not representative of the israeli people, not representative of the palestinian people, personal agendas as well as party agendas. as people, the palestinian people and israeli people are being betrayed by our leaders and being betrayed by the international community. i have also worked with the european union on developing that programming effort and the

strategies for development of the palestinian people as a consultant. i see how frustrated the european union representatives on the ground are with their capital because they say it's nonsense. how can we have a sustainable state if you, for instance, don't stop the way that the israeli army is destroying properties or taking land or preventing equitable development or presenting -- exercising any kind of development control or policy control. the palestinian government has almost all of its income taken away by the israeli government which is preventing it from getting the revenue exceeds. it definitely, the possibility for sustainable, just, prosperous relationships between the two people is there. the governments and the american government need to take action to make that happen. >> the idea that before this current conflict started you

actually held and hold a hopeful view about the future is kind of remarkable given the amount of time you spent their. your son has been the victim of a shooting which will likely have been a hate crime. you are still hopeful. you are still hopeful that people on the sides of the world can learn to see each other as people and move forward in this thing. am i drawing the right conclusion from what you are telling me? >> absolutely. i mean, i saw my son, one of the last call she made before this all happened when he was having a shot dinner with a jewish student group in brown which had a number of them arrested by having a sit in and, encouraging brown to divest from companies that profit from the occupation, the military occupation. we have had a rabbi come and read a blessing over hisham in his bed in the rehab center. we've had christians and muslims and people with no

religion, just the belief that you need to interrupt your life to try to make things better for other people. i see the people yearning to create an opportunity to change, not to change the dialogue, the dialogue is there, to change the rhetoric. i think it's unbearable to think that there are people like the administration and the eu who are still continuing to allow the gaza strip, which is majority children, majority people who have the opportunity to grow and build a prosperous future with their neighbors. people do want to get up in the morning and take care of their children. that is what we should be looking for. i think that history shows that eventually things work out, whether it works out in my lifetime i don't know, but i do

know that history will be ashamed of us right now if we don't call for an immediate cease-fire in gaza. i think it's reprehensible that on christmas day in a place where they have some of the most ancient christian communities there are people huddling under the bombs in the missiles praying for their children to survive the next day, confronting the fact that most of their children are hungry. the international community has also identified that the gaza strip now has the unprecedented level of famine, in forced famine, because it's not famine from a failure of crops. the israeli military is using starvation as a weapon upon that besieged community. on christmas day and going into the new year, i think that's an unacceptable way for us to begin 2024. >> well, i am talking to jose andreas after you who is bringing food to some people. it's because of people like you and people like him and people

like hisham that maybe there will be a future and maybe we can look back at this in history won't judge us poorly because we will make some decisions which will make life better for people in that region. thank you for sharing your optimism with us. thank you for sharing your hope. our thoughts are with hisham for the best recovery that he can have. thank you. but elizabeth price is the mother of hisham awartani. she's a postconflict's resolve and resilience expert. we will be right back with josé andrés. ill be right back with josé andrés.

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israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, about the day that the idf would quote, fight until absolute victory, however long it takes. those remarks coming dirty and especially bloody weekend in gaza, with reports of strikes and overnight rates through the enclave. gaza health ministry says at least 166 votes palestinians were killed in last 24 hours. and the united nations confirms that one of its eight workers were confirmed and gossip with over 70 members of his extended family. more than 20,000 foreigner people have been killed in gaza since october 7th according to the gaza health ministry, we've seen this humanitarian catastrophe get worse by the day. more than half 1 million people are facing starvation right now according to the nominations. the aid is trickling in, but there's no much -- the human city council approved a resolution to boost the gate into gaza, but the real problem

is that it's becoming difficult to get food to people there. tell people evs some of the rampant hunger in gaza, the volunteer group world central kitchen is on the ground there as it is almost everywhere providing desperately needed food and other assistance. the group and its partners have provided more than 11.5 million meals in the middle east since october, feeding gazans as well as some of the estimated half 1 million israelis that the idf says were displaced from their homes after the attacks on october 7th. joining me now is the world renowned chef jose andreas. he's the founder and chief feeding officer for essential kitchen. he was just in days ago and he and i run into each other and some of the worst places in the world. he's always one of the first and. jose, thank you again for doing what you are doing. i just had a conversation with price pointing out the things that we are hearing, and that is the starvation, the hunger, the fact that a lot of people are going on one meal a day. talk to me about what you saw

and how you and your partners are trying to get food to people in gaza. >> well my time in gaza was mainly in the very south in rafah, but from the house, i was saying that we could see the fighting happening less than three kilometers away. obviously, in rafah, the need i would say is big, but because it is closer to egypt and it is where the main basis of the u.n. and the different u.n. groups and other smaller ngos, in this case -- central kitchen, i would say the rafah still is in need, but it is okay. the issues the places we don't know. everything that is north of gaza, khan yunis, gaza city, and everything north on the way to israel is where the horror

stories are, where many, the vast majority of the hospitals are not functioning. and that field hospitals that are functioning like in gaza city, they are very much not only without medicines, even i would say the u.n. and w.h.o., they have been doing the best they could to keep bringing envoys of medicines to those places. everybody is asking for food and water. i mean, the numbers are staggering at the level that it seems only one out of four palestinians are really receiving proper food. so we need to make sure that everyone inside of gaza is receiving food, it's receiving meals. it's more than food and water. to do, that you need security, and to do that you obviously need fuel. and so it can operate freely.

obviously, fuel, right now you can see a market where many of the trees inside of gaza are being cut because people in need would in order to feed themselves, and so we need to make sure that people have access to that fuel to cook, and that is what the central kitchen is doing. we've been bringing kitchens, we've been bringing wood pellets, and we've opened already five kitchens that we are able to be making hot meals, and at times we have the kitchen is making 20, 30,000 meals in partnership with bandera. we have our own kitchen that we're going to be reaching 30,000 meals any day. very soon, we have other partners, you know, with smarter -- smaller palestinian organizations, many of them of young men and women palestinian that we are partnering with because we know their communities, and we are able to partner with them, making hot meals, making bread, and delivering to those places. you already saw somebody's of us feeding for example the qatari hospital.

it is a nonfunctional hospital. it is only the shell of a building that was supposed to become a hospital, but this has become a temporary shelter for tens of thousands of palestinians that need food. what happens is that when food is not ready, when you say convoys, when you subtract up north, people are reading those convoys because? why because they are hungry. and the most food and water we are able to channel inside of gaza, the people of palestine, what they will be able to feel, that we are really helping them even with this war between israel and hamas going on. israel and hamas i was a, sot talk about as much, we talked about in the early days, is the people are displaced from southern israel, because that is become sort of what they call a war envelope. the gaza envelope. there are entitled, entire cities like this, these kibbutz in southern israel where people had to relocate. i met a lot of them i was in

tel aviv. do you have operations on that side as well? >> we have been in israel from day one. why? because the people of israel were under a brutal terrorist attack. not only the many hundreds, thousands that die, but the tens of thousands that had to be relocated because we see rockets that every day used two days ago it was a massive rocket attack, keep hitting different villages and places in israel. who is suffering? children. the children in israel are suffering. obviously, massively, also the children in gaza are suffering. that is why war has no place. obviously, we cannot allow terrorists to try to be doing harm to people not only in israel, but around the world. we need to make sure the terrorists don't keep attacking democracies, but at the same

time, we need to understand that because we are doing war against terrorists that civilians, children, women, elderly are suffering. starting to find the right balance is essential. i do believe that we all need to bring our community out. what is good for me must be good for others. i don't wish on others what i don't wish on my own. i think the conversation has to be that they should not be war, and all the israelis they've been taken by hamas, they should be liberated immediately. and at the same time, we can be asking that the war on terrorists that israel is doing should not be affecting the people in palestine, especially children and women and elderly that they are dying because this fight against terrorism, and that they're going through

hunger. and so i do think that we can bring the best of our community and understand that every side that is about killing people, it is really wrong. >> we can all one hunted percent be on the side of anderson civilians shouldn't die, 100%. and you carry that humidity with you all over the world, but you do it in different places. sometimes you're in a hurricane or tornado zone where you know ultimately that you are there at the worse point of then infrastructure will come in and be developed and things will get better. we were in ukraine together, where you know sometimes that they need a hot meal to be able to get to the next stop and start their life. the one distinction in gaza is that it is quite possible that it gets substantially worse, and that we're actually seeing a calorie deficiency for people who are not getting bombed. they have left their houses, they are in a shelter, but they might die of actual starvation.

>> correct, but they should not be happening. it should not be happening. but this is the issue. bu when we are sending things north, and now we see that we are trying to become very creative. we saw at the u.n. wfp send an envoy -- and we are also trying to send meals to different places, khan yunis, gaza city, probably hopefully from jordan at the same time that we are doing this through -- but at the same time, this is a very massive effort. i think that the different agencies of the u.n., they are doing an amazing job. it is not the agencies, it is the people inside gaza right now risking their lives from people like -- and obviously the different agencies of the u.n., and we see how many of those people have died already. the kitchen, we lost six members of our kitchen and

ukraine. the only difference in gaza right now is that you are surrounded by walls. anybody trying to help inside of gaza, or especially the more than 2 million palestinians, they don't have anywhere to go. when we try to bring food and water to the north, you are getting and that cross fire that is highly dangerous to the people providing humanitarian aid. that is why it is so important that, as this war is going, at the end, the only thing i do really care as a person, and i will say world central kitchen, is that food and water, everybody i do believe, it doesn't matter what side you may be on, but food and water is a universal right. children, especially children, woman, elderly, they should have the right even when these are happening. and i wish that they were not happening. they should happen right with

the food, water, and these very difficult moments. and so let's do this sooner rather than later, that we are right to see the humanitarian aid flow quickly and fast before it becomes really one of the biggest humanitarian nightmare is that we have seen already in the 21st century. >> i was, i means a lot coming from, you because you put yourself on the line. i'm sorry, i'm always sorry to hear about the people from world central kitchen who you lose. i remember one day interviewing one of our colleagues in ukraine, and iraq hit right before we had any managed to survive and came out about it, and josé, i look forward to see you again and give you a big hug to thank you for doing. josé andrés is a world-renowned chef and he is the found of the world central kitchen. we will be right back. right back. that is still going on today. vicki: childhood cancer, it's just hard. stacey passed on christmas day of 1986.

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