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anyway, that does it for us this hour. tune in to chris jansing reports every day from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. you can catch me on alex whit reports saturdays at noon, sundays at 1:00 p.m. and the latest episode of the how to win 2024 podcast is now available. democratic whip catherine clark joins claire mccaskill for a year end round up of house republicans 2023 votes to antiabortions to restricting care for transgendered troops. just do that right now. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. >> good to be with you. primary season begins in less than two weeks. yes. when we will finally get to hear
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from actual voters and caucusgoers instead of faceless polling percentages. what will they say and how much say will they have? there's so much swirling around the republican primary this year. so much that could change everything and yet so much that could change nothing. let me explain. the accepted wisdom right now is that donald trump will be the nominee. but what happens if he can't get on the ballot? there are two states, maine and colorado, saying someone who incited an insurrection can't run for federal office. will other states follow? and if they do, will the supreme court be forced to get involved? there's also the issue of the other legal cases against donald trump. the federal criminal cases. the election interference case is still technically scheduled for march 4th. will it still happen? briefs are due today at the d.c. appeals court where a
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three-judge panel is going to decide whether donald trump immune from prosecution. if they say no and the case does go to trial this year, what happens if donald trump is convicted? will republican voters change their minds based on the outcome of that case? and if they do, will they have another option? yes, there are primary elections but what chances do the candidates not named donald trump really have? there is reporting on what trump's team has been doing to make it even easier for him and him alone to grab the nomination. moves that some may describe as trump's team rigging the process in his favor. joining me now from des moines, iowa, vaughn hillyard. along with senior national political correspondent for the "washington post," ashley parker, who is also an msnbc political analyst. there is a lot there but i'm going to start first with what we started with a moment ago. that is maine and colorado. vaughn, tell me what these two
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states are doing. zbld we are waiting for the appeals to come from donald trump's legal team for both states right now. for colorado, we expected this to come by january 4th, but over the last week, the colorado republican party who is also party to the lawsuit from the colorado voters, they filed the appeal which effectively takes this case to the supreme court. the u.s. supreme court if in fact they choose to take it up. as for the state of maine, under maine statute, the superior court there is required to rule on an appeal 20 days after the secretary of state's decision. 20 days after the secretary of state's decision would make that january 17th. so we expect the trump team to appeal it in the coming days and the decision from the maine superior court to come soon after. of course, there are a lot of constitutional questions here. you heard from senators in the aftermath of the january 6th attack. some senators did not vote to
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convict donald trump. republican senators saying it was outside of their constitutional bounds to convict a president who is a former president. now the u.s. supreme court may very well be looking at a case not only from the state of colorado but potentially maine and others in which the constitution comes to them on not only the merits of whether donald trump engaged in insurrection, but whether section three of the 14th amendment can apply to the current front-runner for president. >> so you have these two states doing that and others making the primary process even easier for donald trump. can you explain what's going on there, vaughn? >> right. i think it's important to understand the difference between the process of eight years ago to choose the republican nominee for president and the process this go around. donald trump back in 2016 did not become the presumptive nominee until may 26th of 2016. right now, the target date for the trump team, senior advisers tell me they intend to have
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donald trump become the party's presumptive nominee as early as march 19th. that is the point in which they believe donald trump will have secured enough delegates to win the gop nomination outright and part of that was because of the process that they engaged in over the last two years at the state party level in places like california where a new rule went into effect this go around that if a candidate received more than 50% of support in the california primary, they get all of california's 169 delegates. that wasn't the case eight years ago. in the state of nevada, you have a caucus that is taking place. donald trump is engaging in the caucus. you'll recall who the gop chairman in nevada. a true donald trump loyalist. in the state of nevada, the nevada gop put a rule into effect that barred superpacs like the pro desantis superpac, from helping organize inside of caucus sites and it's notable that there's a primary taking
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place two days before the nevada caucus. nikki haley's going to have her name on the primary ballot but it doesn't matter how republicans vote in that primary because it has no impact on the delegates awarded. donald trump's team is going all in on the caucus. it's really nitty-gritty here, but there's a lot of complexities that could make donald trump the gop nominee before even a jury decides whether he is guilty on any of these convictions. really tieing the hands of the republican national convention delegates come july if donald trump is a convicted felon and they're stuck with the nominee of being donald trump because he was able to tie up the nomination so early. >> yeah and with california making it not a district allocation of votes but a winner take all state can help him as well. it's a whole lot of foresight from the trump team. a lot more than we saw in 2016. and this idea that they're
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making it easier for donald trump, you know, i've heard it alluded to as potentially rigging the system. >> it is a far different and more disciplined team than we've seen with president trump. that is notable. you don't always recognize how disciplined they are based on the stuff the candidate, donald trump himself, says publicly. but behind the scenes, there's a lot of professional long time republican operatives who understand the system and are working to make it work for donald trump. and there's an irony here because of course he famously has accused you know just about everyone of rigging the system against him and he is now trying to make the system work better for himself. it's worth noting that what he is doing in these states by understanding the rules and delegate system, there's nothing illegal about it. it's not violating the institution in any way.
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but you could certainly apply that word broadly rigging to what we're even seeing from trump himself. >> what about this idea of voters changing their mind? there was "new york times" polling that if donald trump was convicted in one of the cases against him actually that voters would not feel comfortable voting for a convicted felon. is, is that going to make a difference once we get further into this primary process? >> it's hard to know. that is something that you see in polling and you also hear in focus groups and talking to voters that that seems to be a bridge too far. for some, not all to be sure, but for some voters, if that were to happen, that's part of the reason why trump's team wants to make sure that he has this locked up. he has the delegates before the courts and jury start rendering any verdicts on this. what you also see is these cases in maine and colorado whenever donald trump feels like he's being persecuted, he's able to
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use that and say i am being persecuted for you. i am doing this on behalf of you. on the one hand, it strengthens him with his core base which is what's incredibly important in a republican primary. on the other hand, to win a general election, that turns off a lot of the voters that both he and president biden will need to win in november. so when i've been talking to voters, i've heard a lot saying they think donald trump is being unfairly prosecuted by the media, by witch hunts but will say in the next breath, it might be kind of nice to have a nominee who doesn't have so many witches hunting him. so it's a fine line to see how this plays for him long-term. >> primary versus general election. there's a difference in the voters there. thank you very much. joining us now, former communications director for the republican national community. good to have you, doug. let's start with what they were talking about, about the local
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republican parties making it easier for donald trump to grab the nomination. what is your insight on that? >> one, it's not surprising. we operate in a very different political world but the mechanics are similar. each state party is able to administer its own election or caucus or however it wants to do it and those rules change every four years. if we go back to iowa 2016, donald trump said that process was rigged. it was rigged because he lost. donald trump's pretty comfortably ahead in iowa now. doesn't really have a problem there. so i understand the other candidates and campaigns being upset with this. ken kuch nelly said the process was rigged. but here's the political reality. all these people complaining, they're complaining about the referees while their teams aren't doing anything to win the game. nikki haley has a new ad. it's about desantis. for months and months they've
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not gone after donald trump. did we expect anything to change? >> why are they not going after the leader in the race? they can't win. they can't win if donald trump is still in the race. are they just hoping that a conviction is going to take him out because it looks like donald trump is stacking the deck in his favor to make sure that even a conviction would not take him out of this race. so what is the point of running if you're not going to go after the front-runner? >> you used the word witching earlier. when i was walking to the studio, i listened to the song witching and hoping. it's a great song. it is not a political strategy. this is so much of what we've seen for most of the people we've seen at least in theory against donald trump. they hope something happens. they hope that one of the indictments or something else takes care of donald trump so that he's not on the ballot, but at the end of the day, or i should say at the beginning of the day, the first debate, most raised their hands and said if donald trump or any candidate was convicted of a felony, they
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would support that candidate which tells you they're not running a serious candidate to defeat the person who's in first place. it's almost like luke sky walker saying we're going to take out the death star but nobody better go after darth vader. >> let's not assume anything yet. voters haven't voted. caucus goers have not caucused. i know we're looking at this polling that says donald trump is the leader. are you convinced there's not a different chance out there once voters start casting their ballots and nikki haley and ron desantis might be looking at alternative facts? >> every campaign sees different numbers and try and learn from what those are as a snapshot and what it can tell you to project ahead. the reality is donald trump's hold on the republican party is very well and his opponents have done nothing to shake it. now, maybe those attacks wouldn't have worked but we know they haven't been tried and they
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haven't even tried the process argument of you know what, donald trump's going to be distracted. when he was in front of that courthouse a few weeks ago and said i should be in iowa and south carolina and new hampshire. they didn't say and he won't be in arizona, nevada, north carolina and georgia and other swing states. they've not even used that against him so i don't know why we'd expect anything to change. >> this is going to lead into my next conversation. a conviction. is the republican party really comfortable having a general election nominee that is a convicted felon potentially? >> well, that answer is yes and no. it really depends on who you talk to. there's a big part of the trump base committed through hell and high water. there are other voters who say i'm going to look in other places. that's a good convincing general election argument these candidates can use against trump in a primary but they raised
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their hands and said they would support him. >> it's not a conviction for a financial crime. it would be a conviction, if it comes, if, for trying to overturn an election, which is democracy at its heart. doug, thank you so much. now to you can ta about the legal stuff, former u.s. attorney for the north district of alabama, joyce vance. i want to focus on the d.c. circuit court of appeals. over the holiday break if you were not paying attention and luckily i was not the last couple of weeks, the supreme court decided not to get involved in the immunity argument, to leave it to the d.c. court of appeals. so what's happening in the d.c. court of appeals in trying to decide whether donald trump as president is immune from prosecution? >> that's right. the goal of this immunity motion trump filed is to knock out the entire prosecution in the district of columbia. that's what this appeal will decide. the last brief is due today.
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that's donald trump's brief. they'll hold oral argument next week. but this is trump's argument. in essence, he says i'm a king. i'm immune. you can't prosecute me for anything that i did while i was president. and that argument goes to the heart of american democracy. i think donald trump loses this appeal and the one that follows to the supreme court. the only real question is how quickly the courts can remove and return this case to the district court to prepare it for trial. >> what is a d.c. circuit doing now and how quickly could we get a decision on this? >> next step is to hear oral argument on trump's motion. that could rule very quickly. this is always one of the big mysteries with courts. the d.c. circuit recently took a year to issue an opinion in a civil case on a related issue. it looks here though that expedited the schedule. they seem to be very focused on
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deciding this one quickly. >> if they decide that no, he's not immune, that's going to go to the supreme court. what do you expect to happen there in terms of the swiftness with which the supreme court takes this up? >> it's an issue. jack smith has asked the court of appeals to issue its mandate quickly. it's a sort of administrative step that triggers trump's time to ask the supreme court to hear the case. but he has a lot of time involved there. he can even ask the full circuit with all of the currently sitting judges on the court of appeals to rehear the decision made by a three-judge panel assuming he loses and he's the aggrieved party. he's got a lengthy period of time to seem acseh yar from the supreme court. i think we'll probably see a motion from jack smith's camp asking the courts to shorten the amount of time for appeal on this one. that's something the courts have the ability to do if they're interested in doing it.
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>> joyce, thank you very much. and coming up, what made harvard's president suddenly resign today? plus, first and earthquake then this. what caused a passenger jet to burst into flames at tokyo's international airport? first though, hamas says israel killed one of its senior leaders as israel plans for the day after in gaza. we have the details on both of those stories, next. e details of those stories, next.
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not only a second in command, but also one of the founders of the hamas militant wing, died in israeli drone strike in beirut. the lebanese state media say it was a strike on a office where hamas was holding a meeting and that six people were killed in that strike. now the israeli military has been asked about this. they are not commenting one way or another. but there's only one country that is at war with hamas right now. hamas, israelis have threatened repeatedly to hunt down hamas leaders anywhere they are in the world and to kill them. saying they are living on borrowed time. but really the big question now is how big is the retaliation going to be and from what corners. is hezbollah which is a group from hamas but allied with hamas and based in lebanon where this assassination took place, are they going to retaliate? we've seen protests in the west bank. hamas is calling for a day of rage tomorrow against israelis.
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the region bracing for the attacks. >> what about the meeting between government officials about the day after in gaza? we've been asking officials what's going to happen for months now. i've never gotten a straight answer out of anybody. can you tell me what discussions are being had and who might be in charge? >> reporter: >> this has been the big question who told me israel foresees retaining security control indefinitely. when it comes to civilian governance, they want to see local gazans clans or tribes take on that responsibility. they also want to see a security perimeter in the gaza strip although they're not saying whether that would involve israeli land or palestinian land. so this is likely to face some very difficult questions from the u.s. government which has said any plan for after this war
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must include palestinian self-determination. it can't take land away from the palestinians and it must have support from the palestinians. so israel imposing its own idea on who should control parts of the gaza strip is something the international community has said they will not be entertaining. >> thank you very much. joining us now, a journalist who spent more than two decades covering the conflict between the israelis and the palestinians. tell me about what we saw today with with the israeli supreme court because this is a story we covered before the war. the protests surrounding what netanyahu was trying to do to weaken the supreme court and how the country felt like it was tearing itself in two and the warnings by the way from military officials said israel
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was showing itself to be weak and target for an attack. so what happened today regarding the supreme court and this new law or this new bill that netanyahu passed to make the government more powerful and the court weaker? >> you get the impression that hamas have been studying israelis much closer than netanyahu has been studying israelis. so what happened, as you said, netanyahu returned to power a year ago, immediately launched what he called a judicial review which was widely understood by israelis to be an attempted takeover of the leaders of power. this caused massive, millions of people to revolt, take to the streets for weeks, months on end. in the end, his government managed to pass only one law out of the package of about 100 laws they hoped to pass.
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it's a big law because it removed the high court's ability to enact judicial review. in other words, to put any kind of limits on government or parliamentary decisions. so that law passed in july, i'm sorry, and yesterday, the supreme court in the most momentus decision issued by an israel supreme court signed by the outgoing chief justice said two historic crucial things. one, the supreme court of israel absolutely asserts its authority to delimit even what are called basic laws. in other words, constitutional legislation of the kind netanyahu had declared. second, that this particular law he passed limiting the court's ability in any way to limit an unfettered executive was unconstitutional. so it's a massive setback.
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this is netanyahu's sole initiative and it has failed. >> and this is important right now amid this war because this would mean that anything that happens in gaza, the supreme court would be able to review. >> it's impossible to overstate how massive a decision is. not only historically, but in terms of immediate practice. i'll give you an example. netanyahu's police ministers tried to fire the chief of police and wants to replace him with a crony. now, the court won't be able to say you can't appoint who you want. someone with police experience, one of your gang, to be chief of national police. it has to be a reasonable decision. this doctrine the taken directly from the british legal system and it's basically the only thing containing an israeli parliamentary majority of one. >> it's always good to have you. thank you very much. >> thank you. nice to see you.
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alluding to the twin controversies that have been dogging her. antisemitism and plagiarism. rehema, you have her tell me what she said. we do, indeed. she said that it is witeavy heart and deep love for harvard unersity that she's making e said and we have the full screen. after consultation with members of the corporation, it has become clear that it is in the best interest of harvard for me to resign so that our community can navigate this moment of extraordinary challenge with the focus on the institution rather than any individual. she made history when she was appointed this to position six months ago. she's making history again now that she's the first black woman and second female president of harvard university to resign in such a short period of time. >> she survived the antisemitism controversy for a moment then when people started digging into her, what did they find with the
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allegations? >> they said they didn't think she intended to plagiarize but they were concerned about her notations and it was a growing criticism. that on top of what occurred in congress when she and two other female heads of ivy league universities failed to give what they thought were sufficient answers. >> was this her acknowledging that she had people that were going to keep going after her? >> it was that and also what she said. she was subject to a frightening amount of personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus. >> reaction on campus? >> the editorial board has just put out a paper saying it's time for her to go because there's too much focus on her and not on the academics of the university. we have a picture of the interim president who has been named.
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alan garber. the congresswoman, an alum of harvard, she said two down. meaning the president of the university of pennsylvania, she resigned after five days of criticism. >> they're going to go after the m.i.t. president now i guess. >> i think that's fair. >> appreciate it. coming up, were you toasting in the new year with a glass of champagne or a glass of germs? probably both. what doctors are seeing across the country. first up, what governor abbott did to get around an order in new york city to limit migrant buses and what immigration in blue states will mean for elections this year. immigration in blue states will mean for elections this year
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immigration is set to be one of the defining issues of 2024. in the last month, border officials say more than 300,000 migrants crossed the southern border. an all time record. before sunrise today, some of those got off a bus in new jersey, sent there by texas governor abbott. outside of chicago, a plane carrying 455 others arrived on sunday, also from texas. joining us now, antonia hilton outside new york's roosevelt hotel. an intake center in new york
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city. and mary ann ahearn from wmaq in chicago. part of this is part of the governor's attempt to force this into being a blue state issue. the mayor here in new york city says that we have so many migrants in the city, it's overflowing. it's a crisis level and he was attempting to stop those buses from coming in. what's going on? >> yeah, what's really going on here is a political tit for tat and local leaders or regional leaders trying to solve what's really an international challenge that needs congress' help and right now, they're not getting it. here in new york, this executive order has gone into place that limits these arrivals and requires the buses to give 32 hours notice, only show up between 8:30 and noon and only go to the port authority.
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they're dropping people off in suburbs in new jersey and leafing people to fend thr themselves and this comes as new law is about to go in effect in texas that is going to allow authorities in texas to apprehend people they believe have entered their state illegally and to criminally charge them. so all of these forces are colliding at once and local leaders like the mayor here in new york and in chicago, in denver, they're calling on lawmakers to please to something. both to increase resources perhaps to help them settle into other parts. take a listen to a conversation i had with a family from ecuador. ecuador.
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>> that family from ecuador described to me they live a community with gangs. they've had threats on their lives. i've traveled through central and south america and talked to families who describe the same patterns. they're in communities taken over by gangs and they're faced a choice. either join these groups or have their lives and children's lives at risk. they know it's difficult to legally immigrate to this country. they're showing up at the border because they feel they have no other choice. >> let's talk about politically speaking, what it means for these blue cities, blue states. chicago is also experienced a large influx of migrants that have been bussed or flown in from red states. mary ann, how is the city reacting? >> in the words of the mayor
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who's only been on the job about eight months, he says quote, it is unsustainable. chicago doing similar what's going on in new york. having new rules for the buses. a little bit longer time period than 8:00 to noon. more like 8:00 to 5:00, but texas going around dropping not just buses, but a plane load of migrants to the suburban areas. another town, rockford, not too far away. and what we're seeing is while illinois and the city of chicago say we are a sanctuary state and sanctuary city, kuz dozens of suburban towns are saying no thank you. they're putting in ordnances saying no, we don't want the migrants. in fact, when they are dropped off at these suburban towns at the train stations in the middle of the night, the migrants are given bus tickets to bring them into the city of chicago. >> politically, is it going to play in this next presidential cycle? do you think voters will be
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voting on this issue? republicans are certainly banking on it. >> sure seems so to me and you hear as the political reporter in town here for many years, you hear this division among the democrats that we're not used to. yes, the city council sort of falls in line with the mayor, but we're hearing much more give and take. there was a vigorous debate of whether or not chicago should allow the voters in the march primary to decide on a referendum. should we continue to be a sanctuary city and that was shot down perhaps because they knew that many people in the city might say no thank you. >> it's interesting that it's cleaving democratic voters in half. antonia, are you hearing similarly in new york? >> there is a bit of the same here in new york although often when you talk to families, i september a day in the bronx
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talking to families at one of the schools that's been squeezed by this because as the families arrive, the children need to get into classrooms. they need to start learning and new york is compelled to give them those resources. people felt two ways about it. number one, many of them were the children of immigrants. the bronx is very diverse, of course. then they also feel concerned for their own children, right? that it's already very difficult in the public school system here in new york. resources are stretched always. so to have new students arriving all the time, they're worried about what that could mean for their families, their own children's outcomes. we haven't seen the same level of calls for an end to the sanctuary stts status but that window is open. >> mayor adams has said this. there's a six month or so waiting period for migrants to start working legally after
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they've claimed asylum so a lot of them are trying to make ends meet and cobble in an income any way they can to get out of those intake centers like where you're at. and if congress just stepped in and shortened the time period, it would alleviate a lot of that pressure. thank you very much for being with us today. coming up, south korea's liberal opposition leader was stabbed in the neck in an apparent assassination attempt. what officials say happened. first though, a passenger jet burst into flames on the tarmac in tokyo. what led up to this? don't go anywhere. n tokyo. what led up to this? don't go anywhere.
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>> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ in tokyo, 25 hours after a 7.6 magnitude earthquake rocked the island, a passenger plane burst into flames at the haneda international airport. it collided with a coast guard aircraft carrying earthquake relief. while five died on the coast guard plane, all 379 passengers and crew on the commercial jet were safely evacuated. joining us now from tokyo is a local journalist. so, i want to know what happened with this plane. what do officials say led to this then also tell me what's the latest on the earthquake recovery?
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>> reporter: well, this has been a horrific two first days of the new year here in japan. so let me just walk you through what happened at haneda airport earlier today. what happened was a japan airlines flight, a local flight was coming in, getting ready to land. they got the go ahead to land but somewhere during or after the process, it collided with a coast guard smaller plane that happened to be carrying supplies that were headed to the earthquake that happened on monday and after that, you've probably seen these horrific videos. the japan airlines aircraft erupted into flames and literally skid down the tarmac engulfed in those flames to the point you couldn't even recognize it was a plane. the six people aboard the smaller coast guard plane, five of those people are dead. the one, the captain is in
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serious condition. my rack rously, 379 people, including the crew and small children, eight of them, were safely evacuated off the japan aircraft flight. we have heard from the transportation administration and also airline officials, but they say nothing is certain yet as to why this collision took place to begin with. the investigation is ongoing. it's still early hours here. but it took 70 fire trucks to get rid of those flames. it took about six hours. the airport is now operational, except for that particular line that was closed off for investigations. and we have this ongoing rescue effort up in central japan after the big earthquake. >> jet fuel burns long and hot. let me ask you about the earthquake. last i checked, it was 55 dead and still worried that others could still be trapped. what's the latest? >> reporter: the latest death toll is 55, as you say, from
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this horrible earthquake, magnitude 7 plus, this hit the central area of japan on monday. the rescue efforts are ongoing. and the concern is that the death toll could mount because we are hearing that still dozens, possibly more than 100 people maybe trapped under the rubble. the rescue efforts have been difficult because this is a rural area. access to some of the areas has been limited because the roads are inundated in some areas. there are fish rs along the way. and landslides as well. and there are concerns that one could hit something as lrge as this. 10 to 20% probability. >> thank you very much. stay safe out there. in south korea, the country's main opposition leader was stabbed in the neck at a campaign stop. officials are calling it an assassination attempt. quick warning the video is graphic. he was campaigning when a man pretending to ask for an autograph lunged at him with a
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knife. the attacker described a as a medicine in his 60s was restrained. he was air lifted to a seoul hospital, where he's now recovering after a two-hour surgery according to officials. south korea's national assembly election is in three months. he faces ray of corruption allegations and is in the race after narrowly losing in 2022. don't go anywhere. there are a lot of alerts and a the lot of warnings about a virus, multiple viruss that are going around right now. everyone seems to be sick. what you can do to avoid it, and if you can't, what to watch out for. o avoid it, an if you can't, what to watch out for.
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if you came back from the holiday break and you are sick, well, welcome to 2024. everyone seems to be sick is. doctors say three major viruses are going around. covid-19, flu and rsv. it's gotten so bad that four states washington, d.c. are reinstating mask mandates in hospitals. joining us now is blayne alexander. i keep looking around to see who else has fallen. even for a january 2nd, this office seems a little empty today. >> it seems nobody can escape it. the bad news is health experts say we are not even close to the
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peak. through the month of january, cases are only going to continue to rise and probably hit the peak some time in early february. so officials say this is really our new normal. this is the first season where we are officially past the pandemic. this means typically we see the rise cases of rsv and flu and now covid-19 is in the mix. you combine that with the fact that vaccination numbers are just low. only about 18% of adults have gotten the latest covid booster. fewer than 50% of americans have gotten their flu shot. that number is down from last year. this is why health officials are sounding the alarm asking doctors to urge their patients if they are high risk to get the shot. but there are a couple things we should know if you start to feel under the weather. one, it's not too late to get your booster or your shot. but if you start to feel sick, typically we brush it under the rug and say we'll ride it out and get better in a couple weeks.
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but doctors say it's important to debt g tested. find out what you're dealing with. is it covid or rsv or the flu? that way you can get treated. often times these illnesses get more serious than they need to because people simply don't seek treatment. one final thing to say when we're talking to parents, especially of young children, these viruss are present completely differently. if you notice your child is wheezing, get medical attention immediately. there's an rs sv vaccine. pregnant women can get it during a certain time during their pregnancy to protect their children. >> that's great news. if you find your kid is struggling to breathe, go to the doctor. don't take any chances. alexander, thank you very much. good luck to you out there. that's going to do it for me today. i hope none of you get sick out there. "deadline white house" starts right now.
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