kind of equipment that they really need to get water, critical supplies out there. so thousands of people have spent their third night in evacuation shelters across the region. many are still without water and power. so i think the next 12 hours is going to be critical if they want to find more survivors after this huge earthquake. >> yeah, those pictures are absolutely devastating. kaori, thank you so much for that update. we appreciate it. and that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. we are watching the border where speaker mike johnson is touring eagle pass hoping to drum up attention on a record number of migrant crossings last month.

a huge campaign issue for 2024. but we're going to start with an even bigger one. is donald trump eligible to be president of the united states again? colorado says no. maine says no. oregon and new hampshire and others might also chime in and say no. of course donald trump says yes, he is. so who ultimately decides this? the supreme court obviously is the ultimate decision maker here, and they might get involved. colorado has already asked them to. now with maine and perhaps others moving to take trump off the ballot, it only gets harder for the supremes to stay out of it. but here's the issue. getting into it is pretty complicated. both colorado and maine cite section 3 of the 14th amendment which bars officials who have taken an oath to support the constitution from holding office if they engage in an insurrection. the states say it is clear trump

did just that on january 6th. what does the supreme court do about that? you might start to think about the make-up of the court. even though donald trump appointed three of the justices, trump himself, though, when he's had issues in front of the court, well, the court hasn't ruled in his favor. so on the one hand, getting involved and agreeing with the states that he is not constitutionally eligible would mean the court would strip voters of the chance to decide. on the other, not getting involved or disagreeing with the states could mean an insurrectionist is able to be president. so what do they do, and is there an option c or d or even e, a way for them to thread the needle on a hugely consequential issue that is fundamental to democracy. joining us now to figure it out is nbc news correspondent garrett haake. nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, and senior writer at "slate" who covers the supreme court, mark joseph stern.

gentlemen, it's very good to have you. let's start with the basics here. garrett, i want to ask you about colorado and maine, citing the civil war era provision who says anybody who participated in an insurrection, the civil war, shouldn't be allowed to hold office. they say the two states that it applies to donald trump for what he did on january 6th. starting with the state of maine, which is the most recent. can you walk us through what's going on there? >> in maine, it was was secretary of state who made the determination here. she found donald trump did engage in insurrection, and based on the 14th amendment, he would be ineligible to serve as president and ineligible to be on maine's ballot. she has urged the courts to get involved in overseeing the decision, making it clear that her view of the law is correct. in colorado this went through a lengthier process through the courts and ended up with the colorado supreme court reaching a conclusion. trump had engaged in insurrection, and he was ineligible to appear on the

ballot. in colorado, two of the other parties, the colorado republican party, and the secretary of state have urged the supreme court to intervene. we don't know what trump's response will be in colorado. in maine, he argues on the merit, nobody found him guilty of insurrection, and they say on a technicality, he's not as president an officer of the united states. i'll let our legal experts delve into the nuances of that question, and they argue that procedurally speaking the secretary of state was biassed and didn't have the authority to make the decision. we await the legal arguments he'll make in colorado. the political arguments are the same. he basically argues he was doing his job as president to fight election fraud and that everything else is fair game, just politics, and he ought to stay on the ballots in those states. >> there are 17 cases, garrett, to disqualify donald trump from the ballot, all across the country. is he trying to get ahead of any of those cases? >> some of these have been adjudicated fully through the appeals court in different states. some in various stages of

appeal. in oregon, trump's attorneys filed 162 page brief, an incredibly lengthy legal document, arguing these points that insurrection doesn't apply here, that it certainly doesn't apply to him as a former president or acting in the ties of presint at that time. they seem to have woken up to the challenges that this could present to them to not be on the ballots in some or all of the states, you see on the screen right now. there's widespread belief inside trump world and the legal community who has viewed the cases otherwise, it's probably going to have to be the supreme court that makes one decision that applies across the whole patch work of states here who all have slightly different rules here, but incredibly high stakes as we start to turn the corner into the election. >> incredibly high stakes. mark, i'll ask you this, am i right to say that this is a complicated issue for the supreme court? >> absolutely. you know, garrett already ran through some of the questions facing the court. did trump engage in an insurrection. is trump an officer of the

united states under the 14th amendment or not. these are novel questions that the supreme court has never confronted and that basically no court had confronted before last year. i think it poses a conundrum for the justices, especially those on the conservative side. it seems each and every day, scholars are finding more and more historical evidence from the record to support the idea that when congress enacted the 14th amendment in 1868, that it really did want to prevent the presidency from falling into the hands of someone who engaged in insurrection, whether or not they were convicted of that exact crime in criminal court. there were congressmen and members of the public who fretted that jefferson davis could be elected president unless the amendment was ratified. this evidence seems to be snow balling as more states consider do we have an obligation under the 14th amendment to take this guy off the ballot. i don't think the united states supreme court wants anything to

do with these cases. they are obviously a political hot potato, but i strongly agree with garrett that the court will not allow there to be a patch work of rules across state where some allow him to be on the ballot, and some do not. the court will want a uniform nationwide standard and it will want to be the body that decrees that standard. >> the court doesn't want to get overly political. they certainly got that way with the overturning of the roe v. wade, and did a huge, put a huge dent into their credibility. something like this could further damage the court's credibility as well. is there an option c, d or e? >> after the colorado decision, there was a lot of talk that the court might do a colorado specific ruling saying, well, the colorado procedure here didn't follow due process, that the supreme court of the state didn't adhere to the rules required by the legislature, but now that maine has jumped into the fray, i don't think that's possible anymore. i don't think that sort of

specking one problem with a decision and saying this is clearly wrong, we have to send it back to the state, that's not going to work. we're going to have to see option a or b, i think an up or down vote on whether the 14th amendment means what the states have said, some kind of secret back door way out and escape hatch, that is disappearing by the minute. >> what about those who argue, listen, this is the way the court has made up. donald trump has appointed three justices, a conservative majority. there's no way they're not going to side with him. >> well, i would say that i think there's something to that. i think that the conservative justices do tend to rule in a conservative direction. and that would benefit trump here, but i would als say that all three of trump's appointees hold themselves out as originalists, as textualists, and again, there is an increasing pile of evidence here that under the original meaning of the 14th amendment, trump is simply not permitted to run for or hold the presidency, that someone who incited an

insurrection against the united states cannot run for this office or hold it because after the civil war, we as a nation made the decision that we would not tolerate that, and yes, it is a bit antidemocratic in a sense, but all limitations on who can run for office are anti-democratic, and the framers of the 14th amendment arguably decided that it was worth taking this hit to democracy in order to protect the country as a whole from an insurrectionist being the commander in chief. >> your colleague argues that the supreme court is unlikely to take them off the ballot to agree with the states. one thing they could do is make it quicker and easier for the courts to proceed with the criminal prosecutions against them. take out all of those road blocks. what could happen? what could the supreme court get into to speed up or to at least keep on the regular time line, say the election interference case in d.c.? >> that's clearly the most important case right now with the trial set for march, and i think that trump has a very slim

chance of prevailing with any of his arguments at the supreme court in that case. again, yes, it's a conservative court. but trump's arguments here have no basis in the constitution or in precedent. this idea that a president has absolute immunity for acts that he commits while in office, that immunity somehow lingers permanently after he has left office, that is an entirely novel theory that seems to have been drawn out of thin air. i think there will be a majority of justices that are eager to sweep aside the argument and shoot it down relatively quickly, perhaps quickly enough to allow the trial to move forward before the election season kicks into full swing. and if the court does that, it might feel like, oh, we've done enough to sort of ensure the wheels of justice are turning, now we have the legal and political capital to go ahead and swat down this effort to push him off the ballot. he will be on the ballot, but he'll also have to face a criminal trial for his alleged

misdeeds. >> i wonder if to keep him on the ballot, you're going to have to split hairs about what is participating in an insurrection, which is something happening in the lower courts right now. vaughn, let's talk about the voters. the voters are going to have a say in this, it seems, at least for the moment. he's still on the ballot across the country in many states. the primaries are starting in less than two weeks. iowa's caucusing, i think, in, what, a week and a half? what are voters there telling you about how they see donald trump's legal exposure? >> reporter: right, let's be clear here, katy. the caucus is 13 days away, and the caucus experience may look quaint when we look back at the year 2024 depending on how the hypotheticals turn out, whether or not donald trump is disqualified on the ballot or convicted on any of these felony charges, over the summer, ahead of the republican national convention. when you're talking to the voters on the ground, i'm having

a hard time understanding and doing the math of how ron desantis or nikki haley overtake donald trump here or frankly, there is not some surge of support, like we saw with bernie sanders in the past, where there was this idea of a revolution overtaking the presumptive front runner who is going to roll through the rest of the field here. i just don't see that on the ground. but what we're looking at here is also the potential that nikki haley and ron desantis are going he to take into account some of these hypotheticals because these would be country defining hypotheticals if something were to happen to donald trump here. that's why i posed the question to desantis, just earlier this afternoon after a campaign event about whether he would stand by donald trump in the scenario he does, in fact, win the nomination, and is found guilty this summer ahead of the republican convention in july. take a listen. >> if trump is found guilty and wins the nomination, would you stand behind him at the

convention? >> and despite the fact that trump camp believes they're going to hit the delegate threshold mark to become the presumptive nominees, for nikki haley and ron desantis, there may very well be calculations to hang around a little bit longer because any of these scenarios could play out and there could be the potential that the republican nominee at least heading to the convention is one that has a criminal conviction next to his name, and potentially jail time as well. >> listen, if he's taken off the ballot, and voters don't see him as viable, i'm assuming their calculus, they don't want to be seen as against donald trump. they don't want to turn off the voters that they need to beat ron desantis, haley to beat ron desantis, et cetera, but that all presupposes that donald trump the front runner is somehow not on the ballot any longer or not a viable candidate any longer, which is a very big bet. no one certainly running for second place. garrett haake, vaughn hillyard,

mark joseph stern, gentlemen, thank you very much for helping us sort through what is a very complicated and consequential topic. coming up, senator bob menendez is indicted again. who prosecutors are now saying he was doing favors for. and in this heightened moment, two explosions kill 100 people at the memorial of an iranian military leader the u.s. assassinated four years ago. who did it. first, though, courting crisis, what the speaker of the house is trying to do in texas today. that's not the speaker of the house. but we'll get there. we're back in 60 seconds. econds . kinda like me. order in the subway app today. ♪♪ we come from a long line of cowboys. ♪♪ when i see all of us out here on this ranch, i see how far our legacy can go. now on sale at ancestry.

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homeland security officials. republicans say the border is still in crisis, and they, alongside red state governors are trying to force the issue. today house speaker mike johnson is in eagle pass, texas, calling on president biden to do more. joining us now, nbc news capitol hill reporter ryan nobles and from eagle pass, texas, punch bowl cofounder jake sherman, also an msnbc political contributor. jake, you're in eagle pass, tell us what you're seeing and what you expect to hear from mike johnson? >> not a whole lot of migrants at this point. but the speaker of the house is on a delegation tour at the border with a whole host of house republicans, 50 something house republicans have come down here, and the large question is, katy, how does this translate into the legislative morass congress finds itself in later this month. the senate is trying to get a border dual, couple with ukraine funding, israel funding, and taiwan, and does the border seep

into that, those are all questions we hope to hear answers to in the next couple of minutes. i would imagine after the tour, no matter what the speaker saw, and a couple of people have noted this is not a real hot spot in eagle pass today, although it has been the last couple of weeks and months, i have to imagine that the speaker is going to call to couple at least in some way, shape or form, more border money with the government funding debate, which is just, again, 16 days away at this point. >> i wonder what negotiation there is to be had. donald trump is out with an op ed saying shut down the border, he's going to cancel the border provisions that president biden ha put into place, even though president biden's provisions have not exactly been -- they have been pretty hard lined, criticized for that by the aclu and others. what compromise is there to be had. do republicans want to bring democrats to the table here? is there any movement or is there just a lot of extreme positions to campaign for 2024?

ryan. >> reporter: i'll take it. what i think is interesting about the way this is playing out. there seem to be parallel conversations taking place, and not all of the people involved in the decision making process are actually involved in the negotiations. right now, the only negotiations as it relates to any sort of border package are happening on the senate side. the group of members of the house that are at the border right now. they're not directly involved in these talks, and they do believe they're making progress in the senate in what the senate majority leader chuck schumer told us earlier today, it's all fine and good that mike johnson is at the border. he needs to be part of a bipartisan compromise. take a listen. >> it's nice that they have a trip to the border, but the only way to solve this is here, working in a bipartisan way, with senate republicans, senate democrats, and house democrats to get it done. period. and i hope the speaker will realize that if he wants to

solve the problem on the border. >> so schumer said this, after telling us he believes the negotiators are making real progress, and that democrats have given on a lot of these border policy issues that in the past they wouldn't be willing to give on because they believe that the situation does need to be addressed and because this package is coupled with funding for ukraine and funding for israel. but the simple fact of the matter here, katy, is, if they can come up with a bill that gets 60 votes, there's no guarantee it can get through the house because house republicans in particular have wanted a whole suite of policy proposals that the biden administration considers dead on arrival. >> jake, weigh in on that. i know you had something to say. >> ryan's exactly right. tony gonzalez whose district this is, who represents the largestwath of the texas-mexico border told me this yesterday for this morning's edition, whatever the senator comes up with, he's going to

want major changes to. that is not a good sign for these negotiations. they might be wasting their time, and i think the white house based on our reporting had an ill-advised strategy here which is to negotiate with the senate. the game has changed. the house is the highest common denominator in this instance, and they need to be brought into a deal more than the senate does. >> how does the impeachment inquiry into the department of homeland security secretary tie into this, alejandro mayorkas, jake? >> in a big way because republicans feel like he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. there's no evidence at this point. they hope to prove he has. republicans believe there's been criminal negligence in places like eagle pass and the biden administration's enforcement of current and presently in law border provisions, but the bigger question is, katy, how is the house republicans going to deal with the mountain of

legislative deadlines, and two impeachments, joe biden and alejandro mayorkas. >> there's a lot going on, and this is an election year. jake sherman, ryan nobles, thank you very much. and joining us now, paul ryan, brendan buck, how do you see immigration playing out on the campaign trail in 2024, are democrats taking it seriously enough? >> i think democrats have had a blind spot on immigration. republicans have very few issues where their base gets animated and it plays well in a general election. immigration is one of the issues, at least as it relates to border security. i think two things can be true of the situation. one, that the border is a serious crisis that should be taken care of, and it actually probably plays to republicans political advantage but also at the same time impeaching the dhs secretary over it is somewhat nonsensical. i think biden recognizes that he has a problem here. that's why he asked for money as

part of the supplemental. the guys earlier were absolutely right. anything that comes out of the senate that passes with democratic votes, republicans are going to go over. i don't care what it is. anything chuck schumer is going to put on the floor is never good enough for those folks, for the base. they have a political advantage they're going to press and hold out for more. >> it's also an issue in blue states and blue cities. it's a big issue. immigration in new york. it's a big issue in chicago. there's talk about revoking sanctuary state status. the mayor in this town is saying, in new york is saying, it's a crisis level, and congress has to do something. is there no room for compromise to alleviate the pain. is the goal here, by red state governors and house republicans to make it painful for these blue cities and blue states in order to force democrats to a more extreme position that they might not normally take?

>> i really struggle from my experience, dealing with this issue for a number of years seeing anything that looks like a compromise on immigration. this is why i have been so pessimistic about the fate of ukraine aid, which was tied to this. there is literally no tougher issue that i have confronted. politics are so fraught. the people who care about immigration policy will vote just on the policy, and for republicans, it's an issue where if it's not everything, it's not good enough. and that's why things have never been able to come together. >> why is that? is that because districts have been so gerrymandered and the rhetoric is so extreme that this is what primary voters demand? is it a political -- is it a purely campaign issue for a lot of these lawmakers? because if it's not just a campaign issue, wouldn't getting something done to make it better than it currently is, isn't the

enemy of the good perfect, isn't something better than nothing? >> the people who care about immigration are the loudest voices. poll after poll will show that there's support in the country for compromise on the issue, for border security, some type of earned pathway to citizenship. that polls well. if you're in a republican district, the people who don't want to see that pathway for citizenship, don't want to ease any of those things will make their voices heard. they will organize and try to take you out. there's a lot of reasons why eric cantor beat the primary. the sitting house majority leader, largely over an attempt to pass immigration reform, and we saw that in 2014. we got close to it. it blew up. it plays in republican primaries. it makes it difficult to ever do anything that sounds like compromise. >> we're nowhere because the perfect has been the enemy of the good. brendan buck. brendan, thank you very much. coming up, who was senator bob menendez doing favors for

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al shifa was a hamas command center, according to newly declassified u.s. intelligence. according to the assessment, hamas used the hospital to store weapons and even hold some hostages. joining us now from tel aviv is nbc news foreign correspondent josh lederman. it's good to have you. can you give us more of what this u.s. intel says? >> reporter: yeah, this was such a huge controversy. a lot of independent assessments determined that israel had not really released the kind of evidence needed to substantiate its claims that al shifa

hospital was being used as a hamas command center. today we are learning from the u.s. government that they say they have new information that corroborates that hamas was using bunkers and tunnels underneath al-shifa, not only for command and control but also to store weapons and at least a few of the hostages. this u.s. intelligence also suggests that hamas, ahead of the idf storming al shifa cleared out and destroyed some of that evidence so their use of the hospital couldn't be found out by the international committee. the u.s. government as of now is not publicly releasing any evidence to back up this claim, other than saying that they do have this new intelligence, katy? >> didn't israel detain in question the director of the hospital. what did israel say he said? >> yeah, that's right. back in november, israel said that they had detained the leader of the hospital, the head of the hospital, as he was traveling from north to south as part of that evacuation.

they say that he was never indicted but that they wanted to understand what he knew about his hospital being used so comprehensively over the years by hamas. the idf never released the results of that interrogation or whatever happened to him, but they have continued to say that all of their evidence does point to hamas having used that hospital and the fact that they believe that hospital director must have known about what was happening right under his nose. >> there is also still fallout from what we reported yesterday, the assassination of a top hamas leader in beirut. what did the u.s. know about that attack? >> well, the u.s. did not know in advance that israel was planning to assassinate that leader, according to multiple u.s. officials and a person briefed on the operation who spoke to nbc news. we are told by those sources

that israel did inform the u.s. in realtime while that operation was going down. the u.s., meanwhile, is saying that they had no involvement. they are not publicly confirming whether israel was involved because israel is trying to stay coy. they are trying not to inflame tensions, particularly with hezbollah, another group in lebanon threatening retaliation against israel for the assassination. >> josh, thank you very much. let's talk more about that. joining us now is senior fellow at carnegie, aaron david miller. hezbollah gets more involved in this war in gaza and spreads out throughout the region? >> it has two consequences. number one, it's going to put a chill on hostage negotiations, which will already, i think, facing very long odds as the hamas leader sinwar is attaching more importance to holding the

hostages to trade for what he really wants, which is cessation of hostilities, a cease fire, and asymmetrically largely imbalanced palestinians in jails. whether or not this could seriously escalate the situation along the israeli-lebanese border, the timing of this is intriguing. was it a target of opportunity? did the israelis need to demonstrate given the operational and intelligence deficiencies in the run-up to october 7th that they still had range and reach. was it a message to hamas leaders who are hunkered down in gaza? it's unclear. again, it's just another added piece to what is seemingly an unending struggle between israel

and hamas. >> hamas could end the war by, you know, giving up. they could stop the cessation of hostilities and save the people in gaza quite a lot of horror by surrendering. could save the hostages as well. any pressure, any insight or external pressure on hamas to do so. there's a whole lot of pressure on israel. what about hamas? >> i doubt the same kind of pressure. i mean, arab states, the egyptians obviously have influence, since their proximate to gaza and controls what goes out and what comes in. qataris have been bankrolling the hamas leadership, the external leadership and supporting it in doha, and iran, to the tune of $100 million a year is funding hamas. hamas undertook this operation. the iranians may have had foreknowledge that an operation would be prepared.

i think they were surprised by the timing. hamas rolled the dice on this, and frankly, you know, right now it would seem that the israelis are not able to accomplish their objectives. but the uprising in the arab world, the entrance of iran and hezbollah into the confrontation, all of that, which hamas was counting on, hasn't materialized, and i'm not sure hamas expected the intensity of the israeli response. so it's unclear. and i think hamas has no intention of yielding and still believes ultimately in international pressure and the inability of israel to accomplish its military objectives to kill the leaders and eradicate hamas as a military operation. they think they probably can survive this. >> why don't they think israel can do it? and what does it say where hamas leaders might be elsewhere in the world, qatar or turkey, with

this assassination in beirut, what does it mean for these other countries who are hosting hamas officials? >> it's a fascinating question. ronnen barr, last month basically said this is our munich, where they killed 11 athletes at the israeli olympics. it took months, if not years, and they succeeded in getting most. i think that's the israeli intention right now, and it is going to put pressure. we have seen the speech today, which is provocative and belligerent, celebrating the opening of an expanding war between israel and lebanon. the qataris, i think, have the biggest lift because they right now are indispensable in terms

of house negotiations. at the same time they have been bankrolling and hosting hamas leadership. they're going to have to make a recalculation when this is over. >> it does raise a question about what the u.s. may be doing in terms of pressure with qatar since the u.s. has leverage there. qatar has leverage with hosting the military base. aaron david miller, thank you so much for joining us. good to see you. coming up, who worked with jeffrey epstein, a trove of documents naming the people linked to him is set to start coming out today. what to expect? first, though, who was behind the two roadside explosions that killed a hundred people at the memorial site for an iranian military commander the u.s. assassinated in 2020. nbc's ali arouzi is in teheran with who iran is blaming. creamy, delicious fage total yogurt. want the power of 5 serum benefits in 1? olay super serum

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join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. so far a new group has taken responsibility for the duel explosions at the memorial site of qasem soleimani, the military leader the u.s. assassinated in iraq in 2020. thousands of people were marching toward the memorial on this, the fourth anniversary of soleimani's death when two suitcases detonated, according to local reports. at least 100 people are now dead. joining us now is nbc news foreign correspondent ali arouzi in teheran. who is iran blaming? >> well, unsurprisingly, katy, they are blaming israel and the

united states, and they were pretty quick to blame them. while we were hearing from iranian officials that there's an ongoing investigation, all of a sudden the senior member of parliament was the first person to come out and say that he's still waiting for more information, but this attack bears all the hallmarks of operation of israeli intelligence. the former head of the irg was quick to blame israel, saying israel would pay a heavy price for this. then iran's president came out in a speech blaming israel and the united states, saying israel and u.s. operatives were behind these attacks, and the iran supreme leader made the final speech of the evening saying israel was going to pay a very serious price for these attacks. but i have to say, katy, i have been reporting from iran your over a decade now, decade and a half, we have seen a lot of israeli attacks and

assassinations in iran, and they have always been very targeted attacks. they have been nuclear scientists or, you know, the senior military figures, and they have managed to take them out individually. we have never had sort of a mass casualty attack as we've seen here, and the u.s. has also come out and said that israeli wasn't behind these attacks. so it's unclear. but what is going to be a very key is what's iran's response going to be in the next 24, 48 hours, 72 hours. they're issuing a lot of threats as they always do. but whether they'll actually mete out those threats is another question. you have to remember, when the u.s. killed soleimani in 2020, there was outrage here in iran. from 2020 until today, they still keep issuing threats, and warning of revenge for soleimani, but they haven't carried any of that out yet. so they may step up attacks

using proxies in the region, but i doubt iran is going to carry out any attack itself directly. >> israel and the united states have targeted military leaders or nuclear scientists, as you said, do we know if anything like that was killed in the blast today? >> reporter: iranians were saying they weren't. just to paint the picture for you, obviously there was a huge procession there. the government officials, military officials were inside the cemetery where qasem soleimani was buried, and the blast happened outside on the street, so it looks like it was mostly civilians. >> ali arouzi, thank you very much. and coming up, who was jeffrey epstein working with? documents containing untold names will start being released today. nbc's laura jarrett has the speculation. first, though, another indictment against new jersey senator bob menendez.

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bars and formula one tickets he has already been charged with using his influence to help egypt. he maintained and till maintains he's not guilty. joining us now with the details of the charges is investigative reporter tom winters. >> so basically, what we're having here is not necessarily a menendez did x, y and z and broke the law a certain way so he could face this many years in jail. nothing here today increases the threat of jail time for the senator, but the key thing here is the the additional allegations. so they could have gone to trial with what they had. what they are saying here is we have developed more information. we brought it to the grandeur jury. it wasn't just egypt he was involved with it. but in fact, the new jersey developer needed several million dollars for a project of his, reached out to menendez. menendez calls a member of the qatar royal family, who happens to work for an invest the fund, and says can you help provide

this type of financial support for my developer friend, according to the indictment. at at psalm time, i will make qatar statements about the government. while he's the then chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. so this raises a lot of issues both ethical, political, certainly criminal, because now this information is going to come in and it's another chance for prosecutor in front of the jury to say here's the cash. here's the gold. i think this could potentially pose some problems for him. >> do prosecutors want to take this to trial or they pushing for him to take a plea deal? >> they are prepared to go to trial on the date that they have asked the judge. they have agreed with the judge, which is may of this year. so we're less than five months away from seeing this before a jury. potentially, that could change. the judge could push it back if there's additional discovery on the new allegations here. menendez had been hoping for a june date, but that was squashed by the judge. >> i wonder if there was a deal that involved him resigning from

the senate. >> that's a tricky issue for prosecutors. to attach a condition outside of what would be the normal judicial process. that becomes a very tough thing for them. it looks like political interference. >> a the lot of his colleagues are saying it's time to go. tom, thank you very much. coming up, a judge will start releasing a trove of documents with more than 150 names, business associates, employees, alleged victims. whos was involved with jeffrey epstein? th jeffrey epstein? (dad) this old, tired phone can't be traded in (mom) that's a bit dramatic

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including alleged victims, employees, and former associates of convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein. now set to be revealed. it comes after a federal judge ordered many previously redacted court records including deposition transcripts unsealed. some of the jane does came forward on their own. but speculation has been swirling about some of the john does that might emerge, particularly among the rich and powerful men alleged to have been associated with epstein. the disgraced financier found dead in jail while waiting trial on sex trafficking charges. >> it's taken an outrageous amount of time. >> attorneys say some of the information could still be kept under wraps. >> this has been a better kept secret than nuclear launch codes. >> the records all stemming from a now settled civil suit filed by one of epstein's accusers

against maxwell. maxwell is serving a 20-year sentence convicted of grooming young women and girls for abuse by epstein. posting about the upcoming release of names on x last month writing, there's going to be a lot of nervous people over christmas and new year's. >> take it serious. we matter. >> she also sat down with other survivors back this 2019. >> what does justice look like to you now? sdwl it's holding accountable the pep traitors. >> meanwhile this morning, the anticipated fallout over the list of names spilling out into public view. nfl star aaron rodgers appearing to accuse lit night host jimmy kimmel of having a connection to epstein. >> a lot of people including jimmy kimmel are hoping. >> kimmel responding overnight threatening legal actionin a

post on x writing in part, i have not met, flown with, visited or had any contact whatsoever with epstein. adding, your reckless words put my family in danger. keep it up and we'll debate the facts further in court. >> that's a very strange allegation. that's going to do it for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. it's 4:00 in washington, d.c. lawyers for the disgraced four-times indicted ex-president have taken one final step before an appeals court hears arguments on a fundamental and existential question for our democracy. can presidents be tried for things they did while in office. team trump is filed a brief in support of their push to toss out the federal election interference case citing the doctrine of presidential immunity. it is chalked full of claims that are likely to hear next week and