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right now on msnbc, breaking news as court documents in the jeffrey epstein case are released to the public overnight. among them, hundreds of pages that include some big names from epstein's orbit in the years before his death. what's in those documents, and when could we see other pages still under seal?
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plus, donald trump and the supreme court, the former president asking justices to intervene in the decision banning him from colorado's ballot. the argument his legal team is making this morning. and we are tracking breaking news of a shooting investigation at an iowa high school. the latest from perry, iowa, in just a moment. it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, i'm chris jansing in for ana cabrera. the list of famous men connected to convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein just got longer as court documents that were kept hidden now go public. more than 900 pages of legal documents were unsealed in federal court, part of a 2015 civil defamation case against the late financier's convicted accomplice ghislaine maxwell accused of grooming teenage girls for sexual abuse. joining me now laura jarrett, and msnbc legal analyst and
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former prosecutor, kristen gibbons feden. laura, for years, there had been rumors, reports that bill clinton, donald trump, prince andrew, and others were mentioned in these court documents. we should note the men deny that they did anything wrong. the documents provide absolutely no proof of misdeeds. so what do these 900 plus pages tell us? >> the documents are mostly deposition transcripts, chris, court motions, emails, a variety of other material that was previously confidential but now coming to light because a journalist sued to get them. and they do tell a story about the reach of epstein. >> reporter: this morning for the first time, hundreds of court records tied to the convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein now made public, the more than 900 pages of materials previously deemed confidential includes references to familiar names from politicians to celebrities, many of them previously linked to epstein before his suicide in 2019.
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former president bill clinton and donald trump mentioned in deposition transcripts, both have denied any wrongdoing. in one, a woman who once worked for epstein recalled he spoke to her about clinton saying epstein told her one time, quote, that clinton likes them young, referring to girls. a spokesman for clinton referred nbc news to a prior statement from 2019 saying he had not spoken to epstein in over a decade and was unaware of epstein's crimes. the same woman says epstein once suggested calling trump for an outing in atlantic city. other prominent names also littered throughout the documents, including the late pop star michael jackson and musician david copperfield, mentioned as being at epstein's house in palm beach, florida, according to one survivor who says copperfield asked, quote, if i was aware that girls were getting paid to find other girls. he did not immediately return a request for comment.
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all of the details contained in the official court records from a civil suit filed by epstein accuser virginia due fray against ghislaine maxwell, who is currently behind bars for sex trafficking. due fray reiterated she was directed to have sex with britain's prince andrew, something he has repeatedly denied. the two later settled a separate sex abuse lawsuit. due fray telling savannah in 2019, her attorney says her client supports the documents being made public and they only begin to scratch the surface. >> we learn more each time about how this sophisticated trafficking operation happened for so many decades and how many people were involved. it was vast. it was significant. it harmed literally hundreds of young women. >> so obviously more documents
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still left to come here. this does begin to show a little bit more than we didn't already know. >> kristen, obviously she's right. this is only part one of the release of documents expecting to make more than 150 names public. the rest we're told are going to come in on a rolling basis. indications are there could even be more in just the coming days. a couple of questions, is this kind of court unveiling typical? why now when the defamation case was settled so long ago, and what's the expectation for what might come next? >> yeah, the only reason these documents didn't come out sooner is because there was a denial of the herald's initial request to allow the public to have access to these records or really their court documents as laura stated, but those court documents are motions with supporting evidence, and that comes in the form of deposition transcripts and emails. that decision was appealed and then ultimately overturned, and it came back down, so judge
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preska was the one reviewing these documents. keep in mind, a lot of these documents are alleged to have names of sexual crime victims as well as minors, so there has to be that balance. the court must take a look at these documents, these almost, what, 2,000 documents and potentially more and strike that balance as to whether or not the public really has the right to access these documents over the individual's right to privacy, and considering that a lot of this information already came out particularly from -- regarding clinton and regarding trump, again, understanding that there's a denial of wrongdoing, the public's access really outweighed any right to privacy in those documents. but that balance is not necessarily the same for minor victims of child sexual abuse who may not have made a public appearance or any public statement. >> yeah, and virginia due fray who has long talked about this, her lawyer says they believe the more transparency there is, the more this will serve as a
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cautionary tale or may lead to more information. so i wonder if there's any expectation, kristen, that this tranche of these now being made public documents could lead to more charges, could lead to other investigations. >> i think, chris, that it will absolutely lead to other investigations. as you pointed out in the beginning of the segment, none of the documents that have already been released really indicate that type of wrongdoing that could amount to criminal conduct. i think when we're looking at these documents, one thing to keep in mind, these are all circumstantial evidence, they're not necessarily proven, but what they do do is create witnesses. we saw this with the cosby deposition being released that ultimately led to cosby's prosecution, which i was a part of, but then we also see that consistently with more local actions such as the priest abuse
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investigations that happened throughout the nation. if it doesn't lead to investigations, it could lead to revival windows where changes in legislation that would allow any victims who have repressed trauma or haven't had the opportunity to sue civilly to sue despite any expectation of a statute of limitations. >> she makes a good point, laura. i mean, we're in a different world, right, in terms of, first of all, conspiracy theories, you know, when news broke in 2019 that epstein had died in jail, the conspiracy theorists went crazy. and there's still some questions. >> they're still going. >> right, there's still some questions. but also, we live in a different world in terms of what we consider to be completely abhorrent and unacceptable and not protecting people just because of who they are. i wonder what you think about the idea that the more we learn about this the more change is possible.
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>> i think part of the idea in making the documents public is so that you can have that transparency, so that you can have that conversation. even if there isn't sort of criminal wrongdoing and liability attached to any of the people who are named here, they were on the plane. they were in the house. they saw things, and so kristen said they are witnesses to some of the events. and we're going to get a better picture with more and more documents, i think, that come out. obviously the conspiracy theories are not going to go away overnight -- >> or ever maybe. >> or ever. but keeping the documents under wraps only fuels that, and the best way i think to sort of get to the root of it is to have more come out so that people can actually judge for themselves and see things in context without the redactions. >> laura jarrett, kristen gibbons feden, thank you both very much. > former president donald trump is officially asking t supreme court to make sure his name is not kept off the primary ballot in colorado after a lower court ruled that trump engaged in an insurrection on january
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6th making him ineligible to run. trump's lawyers argue the 14th amendment statute does not apply to the presidency, and if the ruling stands, they argue it will, quote, mark the first time in the history of the united states that the judiciary has prevented voters from casting ballots for the leading major party presidential candidate. nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian is following this story for us. so ken, walk us through the request and the possible outcomes here. >> yeah, chris, the trump team is asking the supreme court to return to voters the right to choose their chosen candidate, and they are arguing that even if the 14th amendment of the constitution does apply here that they say donald trump did not engage in insurrection despite a finding by the colorado supreme court that he did. the larger implications here, first of all, colorado not the only place trump has been excluded from the ballot. the main secretary of state has excluded trump from the ballot. both of those states have
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primaries scheduled for super tuesday, march 5th. so time is of the essence. ballots to military and overseas voters have to go out by january 20th. a group of colorado voters is asking the supreme court to take this up as soon as friday. what this says is it's likely that the supreme court is going to play a major role in some crucial questions that could decide or help decide this presidential election, and interestingly, one of donald trump's lawyers, alina habba was raising questions about whether the supreme court will rule in trump's favor. take a listen. >> yeah, that's a concern that he's voiced to me, he's voiced to everybody publicly, not privately. i can tell you his concern is a valid one. republicans are conservative. they get nervous. they unfortunately are sometimes shy away from being pro-trump because they feel that even if the law is on our side, they may appear to be swayed much like the democratic side would do,
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right? so they're trying so hard to look neutral that sometimes they make the wrong call, and i just encourage them to really look at the law and the constitution. >> i guess by republicans she's talking about republican-appointed supreme court justices. but most legal experts believe that the supreme court will weigh in on this insurrection, 14th amendment issue because different courts around the country have ruled differently on this. some courts have said donald trump can be on the ballot, colorado obviously saying he cannot. this is a classic case where the supreme court needs to step in and tell the country what the law is. the implications for the presidential election will be profound. >> ken dilanian, thank you for that. i want to bring in former u.s. attorney harry litman. let me pick up there after what elena ha baa had to say. three trump appointees,
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nominees, they haven't universally ruled in his favor. the effort to shield his taxes. how do you think the justices are likely to handle this request? >> i think, chris, they're going to be really concerned with a uniform solution. yes, colorado's in front of them, but trump also makes the point maine is coming and there are 17 other states that are considering some version of this. i think they're going to be very averse to the possibility that some states have them on the ballot and others don't, and that means they're going to look to find a solution that covers not just colorado but every state out there and the different reasons they could rule to keep trump off the ballot, and there are not that many that qualify for the job, and it's very untrod ground and very momentous. as ken says, they are in a very tricky spot. >> yeah, i don't think we can
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overstate how momentous this is. i want to read a little bit of what trump's lawyers wrote. quote, the colorado supreme court erred in how it described president trump's role in the events of january 6th. it was not insurrection. they also wrote, the proceedings in colorado were premature and violated the electors clause. how strong are those arguments? >> those are two of the weak ones. so first, the supreme court's never going to make a factual finding for the whole country, and even if they did, another state could take that standard and apply it, so won't do the trick of what they need. the electors clause is shades of bush v. gore, believe it or not, where they want to say the federal government can basically step in and tell state procedures whether they comply with the constitution. again, not a very likely scenario. not one that the court would coalesce around, especially the progressives. i think they'll be looking instead will the court to saying something like the 14th amendment doesn't cover him because he was president, a fairly tortured argument, but
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clean and doesn't do much collateral damage, or the argument he actually leads with, which is congress alone must decide this, a state can't. the supreme court can't. it's got to be a vote of congress. >> so lawyers for trump are also juggling, as you well know, a slew of other cases. in just a couple of weeks a civil defamation trial brought by e. jean carroll is set to begin and trump says he plans to be in court for some of it. "the new york times" reporting, quote, he is aiming to turn undesirable circumstances that he's furious about into a kind of high stakes drama that he can direct, as he and his campaign navigate a thicket of legal proceedings. i wonder how you see that playing out, e. jean carroll in particular, overall i wonder how many trials might we see between now is and november? >> oh, man, so we're going to see two in january because the civil fraud trial also recommences e. jean carroll,
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where he says he'll testify. you always take that with a grain of salt from a defendant, from donald trump it's a wheel barrel of salt. what about the four criminal trials, which will go and when. i agree with it. he's playing two dramas. he's taking the legal drama and making claims that are terrible for him in court but using it to try to then transpose to political drama where the same lack of success translates into his grievance, in it for you, my voters, et cetera. so it's a kind of jujitsu move, but certainly in the law he again and again does himself a disservice with his different stunts. >> harry litman, always good to see you, thank you. and i'll talk with colorado's secretary of state about all of this later today on "chris jansing reports." we're also monitoring that breaking news out of iowa where
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police say there is an active shooter investigation at perry high school. that's about 25 miles northwest of des moines. per the school calendar, this is the first day back from holiday break. joining us from the scene is nbc's, what do we know at this moment? >> reporter: that's absolutely right. it's a very fluid situation. if you look behind me, there's about a dozen police cars outside perry high school. i was on my way here to go see vivek ramaswamy who's doing a campaign event about five minutes away from this site. i checked in with the campaign. they are still doing that campaign event. they're dubbing it a discussion and prayer. on the way here from des moines, we saw dozens of police cars hurdling down the highway coming as fast as they could to this site, and on my way to this exact spot, i saw a woman trembling with fear sprinting away from the high school. it's anxious and tense times
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here outside perry high school, chris. >> understandably so, but no word on whether or not anyone was actually shot or whether or not police are planning an update at some point today? >> reporter: we have been informed by police that they are planning an update. we have not been given timing quite yet and it is still a fluid situation. we are still gathering information, chris. >> okay, while you were speaking literally, we got information that there will be an update at 11:00 a.m. eastern time, that's a little less than 45 minutes from now, alex tabet, thank you so much for that. when we're back in 60 seconds, does the killing of a hamas leader, what secretary blinken hopes to achieve. plus iran vowing revenge for explosions that killed nearly 100 people but who is the culprit? and winter storm incoming, the major cities that could see their first big snowfall in years. and ahead, no order in the
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secretary of state antony blinken is headed back to the middle east today, his fourth trip to the region since the war between israel and hamas broke out in october. the visit comes amid growing concerns that the war could escalate into a wider regional fight. hezbollah is threatening to retaliate after the killing of senior hamas leader saleh al-arouri. new this morning, nbc news confirming that the mother and uncle of a u.s. service member made it out of gaza on new year's eve after a successful rescue operation. that's according to one u.s. official with direct knowledge and two u.s. officials familiar
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with the operation. i want to bring in nbc news foreign correspondent raf sanchez in tel aviv, former spokesperson for the u.s. mission to the u.n., hagar cha mali, and retired u.s. army brigadier general peter swak, good to have all of you here. >> reporter: the secretary is heading to a region that really feels on the brink. you have hot spots from iran to iraq to yemen to gaza to the lebanon, israel border. juggling all of these crises simultaneously, we do think one of the secretary's top priorities will be preventing the spread of this war from gaza into lebanon. there has been a lot of concern following the israeli assassination of the number two leader of hamas in beirut this week. that we will see some kind of retaliation from hezbollah or from hamas, from southern lebanon into northern israel. the secretary likely to be very focused on that.
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there is another senior official in tel aviv today. he is president biden's top troubleshooter on all issues israel/lebanon. he is trying to defuse those tensions. the other priority is getting more humanitarian aid into gaza 90 days into this war, the u.n. is saying half of the population of gaza is at risk of starvation. more than 80% are displaced. they are living in tents as this cold winter weather sets in. so another priority for the secretary trying to get more of that badly needed aid into gaza. >> meantime, tell us what you know about this reece cue of the relatives of u.s. service members who were able to get out of gaza. >> reporter: details still coming out here. this is a palestinian american u.s. service member. his uncle, who's an american citizen, and his mother both trapped inside of gaza fighting
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raging all around them, and the u.s. military acting as a kind of go-between between the israeli military and the government of egypt helping israeli forces locate the mother and the uncle, get them safely out of gaza on new year's eve. u.s. officials are stressing here that there were no american boots on the ground. this wasn't a case of u.s. special forces going into gaza to rescue these people, but that they did play a role in terms of safely navigating them out of harm's way and ultimately getting them out of the gaza strip. >> let me ask you about that again, no u.s. boots on the ground. how complicated can it be? you're in an active war zone, and you're trying to do a rescue. >> it's enormously complicated because there's so many players involved, and when you're involved in those type of rescues, you have to really do the risk assessment that if you're -- however you're going in by boat or by helicopter, you
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also have to, you know, remember blackhawk down, you could get an aircraft shot down or service members on the ground, and now they're in trouble, and it kas cascades. this is devilishly complicated. we are very involved. for context, when we step back, we are involved in kinetic actions now in the red sea, syria, iraq, and it all just gets more and more dangerous. so the administration and our friends and allies have to work this very, very carefully. >> since you brought up the red sea, let me ask you about the recent attacks by the houthis on the u.s. military. 18 shipping companies are now rerouting to avoid that area. what steps need to be taken? >> well, i mean, there have been -- there have been some
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major steps put together, but it's likely not enough. it's operation prosperity guardian is one, with 11 u.s. led task forces operating in the red sea area. we do have the u.s.s. eisenhower still in the area, the gerald ford went back from the eastern med. they've been out for eight months. yes, there is a lot going on, and i think what's happening is that the houthis have got to be careful. if they continue, the message has been put, the gauntlet has been thrown, we're going to come out and hit them and hit them hard. and all of this is a subset of what is going on with great iran and their axis of resistance with hezbollah, hamas, shia militias in syria and iraq. and of course the houthis in the
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red sea. it's quite a lot -- a mix and we are navigating all this militarily very careful, but there's a sense that we're on the edge of breaking into something pretty big. also, when you have in iran now a major explosion, 100 killed at the -- at the burial site, ka sam soleimani, and what you have in beirut, yes, we've got to keep working this carefully. work closely with friends and allies and keep our eyes on the ball. >> yeah, when you think about the complexities of this, hagar, let's talk about some new nbc news reporting that president biden's national security team is looking very closely at options on how to move forward in the red sea. what do you see as the likely options here? what might happen? >> well, the general said something really important, which is that we are trying to
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communicate to the houthis here they need to be very careful. freedom of navigation is a priority for the united states and frankly, should be a priority for the world. this is a major waterway. you have 30% of the world's -- 15 to 30% of the world's goods traveling through the red sea and the suez canal, and for them to reroute around africa is going to significantly contribute to global inflation, cost increases, delivery delays and so on. this is -- and this is a priority for numerous reasons. now, the houthis are pusuing these attacks because they're troublemakers. they want to show their iranian boss they're doing something. iran likes it because it's short of instigating a massive war directly with iran, and the united states is responding only specifically to those threats. so if militant boats are approaching a vessel, they've sunk them. if there's an attack, they respond. the u.s. is not pursuing offensive measures just yet, but they are communicating. the houthis cannot take on the
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united states and the international navy coalition that is in the red sea, but they are provoking a lot, and they -- at a certain point, the u.s. may have to take more offensive measures to deter future aggression. and to the general's other point yesterday, hagar, state department spokesperson matthew miller spoke about the concerns over escalating tensions in the region. here's what he said. >> it is in no one's interest, it's not in the interests of any country in the region, it's not in the interests of any country in the world to see this conflict escalated any further than it already is, and that's the message we will continue to send. >> one of the messages was about -- many of the messages have been to israel. what should we make of the fact that the u.s. was not made aware of israel's plan until it was underway. do you see the tensions in the region making it more likely, frankly right now, the relationship including the relationship between the u.s.
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and israel, that this could escalate into something bigger. >> so let's start with the counterterrorism operation you're talking about. it is not typical for countries to give a heads-up to others when they are killing a terrorist leader. for the united states we pursue similar counterterrorism operations. you only do it when you are certain that that leader is where they are at that moment, and you have minutes to pursue that attack, make that decision and pursue it. if you share that information, you can't wait for approval, and by the way, you also risk that it could leak, and not only could that unravel the whole attack, but it could reveal the sources and methods of how they knew that that person was where they were. so it's not uncommon. we in the united states, we don't do that. we didn't tell the pakistanis we were targeting bin laden when we did, we told them after the fact. in terms of your second question on whether this could spark something more regional and wide and full scale, one of the things i like to say is when the
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clouds gather in the middle east, it storms everywhere. and so i don't see this turning into a wide full-scale war, but it is very dangerous, and you have the risk of miscalculation, but i really see in the next couple of months more tit for tat attacks. >> hagar chemali, brigadier general peter zwack, thanks to all of you. let's talk about iran, the president is vowing revenge for explosions that killed at least 84 people. the blast struck at a memorial event for a prominent iranian general who was killed in a 2020 u.s. drone strike. iran blames israel for the violence. u.s. officials do not believe israel was responsible. they believe a terror group is the most likely culprit. ali arouzi joins us now from tehran. what more do we know about that attack? >> reporter: hey, chris, so the attack in kerman in southern iran has killed 84 people and wounded well over 200. we know there were women and
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children amongst the fatalities, and most of the people that were injured or wounded were civilians. now, the death toll has been revised down this morning by the head of iran's emergency services from an earlier figure of 95 and 103. but nonetheless, this still marks the deadliest terror attack since the islamic revolution in 1979 in this country. as you mentioned, no group has claimed responsibility for this attack. iranian officials were very quick to point the finger at israel, a senior member of parliament said the attack bears all the hallmarks of a mossad operation. said there would be a harsh revenge against them. the u.s. says there's no indication israel was involved and it's ludicrous that washington may have been involved. it's a very complicated situation here, chris. firstly, israel's hallmark is targeted assassinations of key military figures, scientific
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figures inside iran. they've been quite sophisticated targeted attacks with magnet bombs and this sort of stuff. not this sort of mass casualty attack we've seen, but also the israeli have said the rules of engagement have changed in response to the hamas attacks on october 7th, and we know that israel holds iran largely responsible for those attacks and much of the animosity against their country, chris. >> ali arouzi, thank you. up next, the escalating legal battle over a texas law that allows police to arrest migrants who cross the border illegally. plus, our team on the ground with the latest from iowa on that school shooting. us out here on this ranch, i see how far our legacy can go. now on sale at ancestry. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn.
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♪ ♪ join the millions of people taking back♪ ♪eir privacy ♪ ♪ and we are back with more on the breaking news of an active shooter situation at perry high school in iowa. we are expecting an update from authorities at 11:00 a.m. eastern, just 25 minutes from now. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard who is on the scene for us.
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vaughn, what else are we learning? >> reporter: hey, chris, we're getting a better idea of the time line in which this has unfolded. we still do not know the number of individuals who may have been shot. on the way over here to perry, we are about 45 minutes outside of des moines, passed three ambulances en route back to des moines, but the time line is becoming a little bit more clear. 7:55 is when perry high school and middle school start. both of the high school and the middle school, they share a campus here in perry. this is a community of about 8,000 folks. the high school has about 500 students at it with faculty as well. but this shooting to our understanding actually took place a good probably about a half hour before school started. i was talking with the mother of two students who told me that her two students had not arrived, that ambulances first arrived on scene about 15 minutes before school officially started. and so of course the hope is that there were fewer students
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on campus than those who were actually attending here. this is more of a rural community. this is a major tyson's food plant here, it's a large agricultural community as well. we are still trying to get an understanding of the extent to which this may still be an active shooting situation here. but at this point in time, at least we know that not the entire student body was on campus when the first responders started to respond. i also know, chris, that the department of natural resources, which typically oversees the state park system here, they were also responding to site. the local police from multiple towns have also been responding here over the course of the last 60 minutes. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you so much, and stay close for us. we appreciate it. the showdown between texas and the federal government over the border is intensifying. the justice department is now suing texas over a law that would let state authorities arrest migrants who enter the u.s. without authorization. the doj arguing the state is trying to run its own immigration system.
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also in texas yesterday, house speaker mike johnson led a group of republicans on a border visit who blame the biden administration for a recent uptick in crossings, although the beginning of this month those numbers were actually going down. joining us now from eagle pass, texas, nbc's morgan chesky. so morgan, this lawsuit is just the latest in the fight between texas and the federal government the. i know you talked with people on the front lines of this issue yesterday. what have you found out? >> reporter: yeah, chris, it's very interesting to hear this political debate go back and forth when it comes to the border and then to actually be on the rio grande and speak to those feeling a little bit as if they're caught in the middle of all of this. we rode along with members of the texas tactical marine unit, there's about 90 of these troopers stationed along the texas, mexico border. we were on board one of their boats that can go in shallow waters, especially where a lot of these migrant groups have
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been crossing. they tell me that their job has essentially transitioned from one of law enforcement where they're seeking out smugglers or cartel members to a rescue mission almost overnight due to the sheer influx of people coming across. here's some of what these troopers shared about what they're encountering on a daily basis. >> is there any trooper with this unit who hasn't pulled someone from the water here to try to save their life? >> no, i do not believe so. we've -- between our crew and the boats, it's just been a -- just a record number of life saving scenarios that we have to go through. >> you got six extra life jackets on board. when you roll up on a group as large as you've seen, how do you help everyone? can you? >> you know, theoretically, no, it's going to be impossible when you're dealing with, you know, groups of 40 to 50.
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>> those troopers tell me, chris, that there's not a single member in that unit who has not pulled someone from the rio grande, whether it be a migrant parent or so many of the children, that's what was especially striking. they say that weighs heavy on them when they see the desperation on the faces of everyone coming across, chris. >> morgan chesky, thank you, appreciate it. up next, chaos in the courtroom. this wild video of a man leaping at a judge in las vegas. her condition and what happened to her attacker. we've also got breaking news from capitol hill, some new allegations that donald trump received millions from governments while he was president. president. before i submit any prescriptions, i always check singlecare first! just go to singlecare.com, search for your prescription and show the coupon to your pharmacist. millions of people on medicare, just like me,
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we have breaking news from capitol hill. there are new documents that come from house democrats showing former president donald trump received nearly $8 million from 20 different foreign governments while he was in office. i want to bring in nbc news cant hill correspondent ryan nobles. what more can you tell us, ryan? >> well, chris, i just left a briefing from democrats on the house oversight committee where they gave us this report. it's a 156-page exhaustive report that details only two years of the donald trump presidency, which they outline millions of dollars in payments that flowed directly from foreign governments into the
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various businesses that were controlled by donald trump and his associates. it's important to keep in mind that while donald trump was president, he did not do what other previous presidents have done and either divested his business assets outside of government or stepped down from the boards and stepped down from positions of authority in these businesses. instead he chose to remain involved in them. and even though his children did run these businesses, he was still directly involved or had knowledge of the day-to-day business activity that many of these different associated entities were doing while he was in office. and what this report outlines with a great deal of specificity are the types of payments that many of these foreign governments were making to his various businesses. the number one country over this two-year period had participated or had patronized trump associated businesses was china, which of course donald trump has been a fierce critic of china,
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particularly china as it relates to hunter biden, the current president's son, and the impeachment investigation that is underway by oversight republicans. and saudi arabia was another one of the countries of which had spent close to a million dollars in patronizing trump-associated businesses during this two-year period that the oversight committee was able to gain records to. now, that two-year period, chris, is also an important part of this conversation. they were only able to collect that two-year period worth of time because the accounting firm that was working with donald trump at that time during that window of time separated from him and no longer was willing to do business with him, they felt compelled to hand the information over because they were requested to do so by congress. the rest of that period of time, house republicans have not joined with house democrats in compelling that information to be brought forward. and that was one of the things that we heard members of the
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house democratic oversight committee be very critical of the chairman of the oversight committee, james comer for not allowing them to ask for these additional documents to get the full four-years of the trump presidency. chris, this all comes against the backdrop of house republicans pushing for this impeachment inquiry into president joe biden, and basically, the number one foundational accusation that they've given against the current president, joe biden, is that his son, hunter biden was engaged in foreign business activities that benefitted joe biden and in some way, shape, or form provided assistance to these foreign governments through the public and important positions that joe biden held. what democrats have -- or i should say what republicans have failed to do at this point, though, is show how joe biden personally benefitted from any of the work that his son did around the world. they have not shown vast amounts of millions of dollars worth of
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payments that were directly given to joe biden as a result of his son's business dealings, nor have they shown any evidence that joe biden's role as a public official benefitted any of these foreign entities. this report at least attempts to do that as it relates to donald trump. they show specific amounts of money that went from these foreign entities into trump aligned businesses of which the former president directly benefitted from. now, they believe that this is a violation of the emoluments clause, of the u.s. constitution, that there should be a penalty as a result of it. they're still releasing this information as it comes forward, chris. this is a pretty detailed amount of information related to trump during his time as president, chris. >> for example, you mentioned saudi arabia. according to this report, they were the second largest spender. they shelled out more than $615,000 at trump world tower and trump international hotel. now, what we know is that the constitution says a president cannot accept money, payments,
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gifts of any kind from a foreign government or monarch without getting the express consent of congress. is there any record that donald trump, the business entities associated with his family business, went to congress and asked for some sort of pass? >> reporter: there's no record of that at all, and in fact, it never happened, and that's part of the reason that house democrats believe that this is a violation of the emoluments clause. and jamie raskin who's the ranking member of the democratic oversight committee specifically talked about an incident where then president lincoln was given a gift by a foreign government. i believe one of them was an elephant tusk and another thing. instead of just keeping these gifts for himself, he went to congress to ask for permission, and congress actually told him no, and the state department took possession of these gifts. there was nothing like that as it relates to donald trump. the argument that republicans
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would make about donald trump in his defense is that he didn't accept a government salary during his entire time as with the, that he ended up donating that salary toward charitable causes and different aspects of the government. according to raskin, that's not enough to excuse the amount of money that his companies were taking from these foreign business entities. the other argument that republicans have made is that the trump businesses were actually providing tangible benefit to some of these business -- these different foreign governments and their associates. for instance, they would buy a hotel room at the going rate. they would got a hotel room for that. it's not as if they were just passing money off with no exchange of goods and services, but the emoluments clause doesn't necessarily allow for an exemption in that regard. if it's something you're benefitting from financially, that's something you have to report to congress and ask for permission to do so. this is something that was -- you know, the investigation
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started while trump was in office. it's now come to this point where this report has been released, but again, democrats are in the minority here, chris. there isn't much more they can do than get this out into the public sphere unless republicans join in and either refer this to the department of justice or something along those lines. this is likely the most that they can do is get this out to the public square for americans to digest it. it comes right as the 2024 election is starting to heat up. >> so you mentioned that this is only two years of the four years that donald trump was president because of the accounting firm that they disassociated then with the trumps. since you were in the there any recourse they believe they have to look at the other two years? >> reporter: so, chris, this is another function of democrats being in the minority. they cannot subpoena these documents and use the power of congress in order to get these documents without cooperation
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from house republicans. house republicans are in the majority. they're the ones that determine when subpoenas are issued and who they are issued to and then subsequently enforces the execution of those subpoenas. so, they're really in a position here where they are at the mercy of the chairman of the oversight committee, james comer, and his staff, and the other members of the oversight committee in order to move this forward. the way it works, particularly in the house of representatives, is that majority rules. republicans have a very thin majority, but it is enough, particularly if the committee level to -- for them to conduct business the way they want to conduct it. and that's certainly the situation with this particular area of inquiry. >> thank you very much for that. we're going to continue to follow this throughout the day. ryan nobles, we appreciate you coming to us with that breaking news. back to the other breaking news, that is the school shooting in iowa. authorities set to give an update on the investigation at 11:00 a.m. eastern, which is
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just a few minutes from now. nbc's ali vitali joins us now from perry, iowa. i know you spoke to a student's mother. it was quite a chaotic scene, even though as we heard from vaughn, just a short time ago, this all started to unfold before all the students were actually at school this morning, but what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, it started to unfold before students were officially at the start of their school day, but as this mother just told me in the last few minutes, it was pretty typical, she said, for kids to go in, hang out in the lunch room and sort of gather themselves before the official start of their school day. she said that when she got this text message from one of her children, it was harrowing, terrifying, she was in tears talking to me about the moment that she learned that this shooting had happened at perry high school where her children were. she said she felt even more relief upon seeing her kids, they were being looked at by medics here, just in case they were -- but generally, she said they seemed that they were okay.
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i asked her, though, what it felt like to seeing some like this could happen in a place like perry. you see this across the country. she said you never think it can happen where you are, but, of course, it has now happened here at perry high school. we're short, chris, still on details in terms of what has actually happened here. i know in talking to a law enforcement official on my way into the scene, they just said this was a very not good in their words situation. thankfully it is no longer an active scene, but we expect to get more of those details in just the next few minutes here as we talk to the public information officer for the perry police department. but, again, you can see around me, a heavy police presence. of course, iowa state patrol here, other counties sending their law enforcement to the scene to try to help out with this unfolding situation this morning. but, again, in talking to that mother, it is the scene that we have unfortunately seen too many times before in this country, parents just racked with the agony of knowing that their kids
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could have been in danger, and thankful for the fact that at least in her case her children were okay. >> i'm looking right now at our local nbc news station, what they posted in terms of the timeline here, ali. 7:40 a.m., first report of the shooting. 8:25, middle school cleared. 8:27, second team cleared the high school. 8:32, the elementary school was evacuated and dismissed. so, obviously students, parents, they have been able to leave the scene. can you see, first of all, where the press conference is set up and did the pio, have you gotten any information about the extent of what they might be able to tell us here? >> reporter: yeah, look, i'm standing right next to where we're going to get that update in the next few minutes. we're just off to the side of where they're staging us. and frankly when i talked to the public information officer, the pio as you mentioned there, chris, he said he was really getting caught up with this in
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real time as well, that there are, of course, multiple law enforcement agencies here on the scene, securing the school. it makes sense that the middle school would have been one of the first places that they turned to, given the fact that the high school and middle school here are very close in proximity, but we'll expect to get more of the hard details in just the next few minutes. >> we will have that for folks, ali vitali, thank you. we have more breaking news, this time in donald trump's legal fights. the former president's legal team has now asked the judge in the d.c. election interference case to hold special counsel jack smith in contempt. let's bring in nbc's ken dilanian. what do we know about this, ken? >> chris, what donald trump's lawyers are saying is that the lawyers for the special counsel have continued to turn over material in discovery and to file motions, despite the fact that the case is stayed while this question of presidential immunity makes its way through the appeals court. and they're saying that jack smith's lawyers should be sanctioned for doing this. it is the kind of maneuvering
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that you often see in these very contentious cases. not sure whether it is going to succeed here, but what trump's attorneys are arguing is that jack smith's office is acting improperly by continuing to file motions while the case is stayed, chris. >> ken dilanian, who continues to stay on top of these myriad legal cases, thank you for that update. that's going to do it for me this hour. i will be back again at 1:00 p.m. eastern for another two hours of "chris jansing reports." yasmin vossoughian will pick up our coverage next. ssoughian willp our coverage next. (vo) it's your vision, it's your verizon. (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there
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hey, everybody. good morning to you. good to see you. 11:00 a.m. in the east. 8:00 al pacific. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for jose diaz-balart. in iowa, right now, first responders were on the scene after a shooting at a high school in perry, iowa, about 25 miles from des moines. any moment now officials there are going to give an update. we're going to bring that to you as soon as it

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