i think that we'll get a fairly quick decision from the circuit denying his motion to dismiss the criminal prosecution based on presidential immunity. >> joyce vance, thank you very much, very concise as asked, ashley parker, thank you as well. and that is going to do it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports" follow the show on social media. andrea is on a trip with secretary of state antony blinken in the middle east. also, you can catch me at 3:00 p.m. eastern. i will be right back here in this chair, but don't go anywhere because "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. presidential campaigns are always a fight for the future, but never quite like this. with a huge speech set for later today, president biden is all in

on a singular message that this election will decide whether american democracies survives. will those words move voters? plus, the u.s. scrambling today to find partners for peace in the middle east, even as the israel-hamas war threatens to spin out of control. will secretary of state antony blinken's fourth trip overseas break new ground. and a new front in the war of transgender rights. the stakes are high whether trans americans can run for office using the names they choose. i'll talk to vanessa joy who says she was kis disqualified from her race in ohio because of a law she believes could put other trans candidates at risk. we start with the president's massive political gamble, betting that voters will rally around him as the defender of democracy and reject donald trump's dystopian vision of america. that message is at the heart of a big speech he'll give near valley forge this afternoon and

is expected to be the framework for his campaign going forward. they do certainly reflect the mood of voters as well as biden's belief that the country's future, the country itself is at stake. >> there's something dangerous happening in america. there's an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs in our democracy. all of us are being asked right now what will we do to maintain our democracy? >> well, meanwhile, donald trump is making almost the exact same argument, but from the other side warning that in his words if president biden is reelected, the american dream is dead. some of his supporters going so far as to say they would not accept the outcome if biden won again. >> no, because he's not my president now. i feel sorry for him. >> you wouldn't accept him? >> no. >> tell me why? >> because he is -- he has no business being president.

>> i would probably never vote again if biden wins again, that means they cheated two times in a row, and then there's no use. then your country's gone. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez is at the white house. ali vitali is at iowa where donald trump will be speaking later today. david jolly is a former republican congressman from florida. peter baker is the "new york times" chief white house correspondent. both david and peter are msnbc political analysts. david, explain the goal of this speech and the strategy to put this idea of defending democracy front and center. >> reporter: good afternoon, the president leaving the white house just a short time ago en route, as you mentioned, to pennsylvania. and this is his first campaign stop of the new year, and it's only his third public campaign stop since announcing his re-election bid last year. now, as you said and you laid it out quite nicely that the president believes that the country is at stake, that this -- that donald trump is an existential threat to democracy. now, he plans to invoke george

washington's words that the fight for democracy remains a sacred cause. now, a senior adviser says that the president will also talk about how donald trump tried to exploit weakness in american democracy on january 6th, but that democracy held, and as you mentioned, chris, there have been a lot of discussion of whether the president should be focusing more on an economic message and also critics who say that his focus on the economy over the last several month thes really hasn't taken hold with voters. so now that is the bet here leading into the new year now that the campaign thinks more voters will be starting to tune in, that the biden campaign feels this is a winning message, and it feels that this is the opening salvo of the 2024 campaign, chris! peter, polls do indicate that people agree democracy is an important issue but not necessarily more important than the economy, for example, or abortion or immigration. is there any sense that this is

maybe a little too risky, putting too many eggs in this basket? >> reporter: well, look, you know, from president biden's point of view, the other eggs haven't been working, right? they went out and spent months trying to sell the country on bidenomics, it didn't work. it hasn't worked so far. maybe there's a lagging indicator and people will as they feel better about the economy give him credit. for the moment that changed his approval ratings in a positive way. i think they just believe, as we were just talking about, that they need to emphasize the contrast between the president and the former president, the stakes involved in the election. why did people vote for biden last time, even if they weren't excited about him because they didn't want trump in the office. he's going to make the case they shouldn't want him back. he's aiming at an audience of people who have been disenchanted by biden, who feel like he's too old or inflation is too high, he's going to try to make the case not about the infrastructure act or inflation

reduction act or other legislative priorities that haven't changed those poll numbers but to try to make that contrast so stark that they feel they have no choice but to return to biden no matter how unenthusiastic they may be about him. >> this speech was supposed to be delivered tomorrow, january 6th, a date one senior adviser told msnbc has been underplayed. i want to show you a poll from "the washington post" and the university of maryland. while 55% of u.s. adults say january 6th must be remembered, 43% say it's time to move on and that includes 46% of independents. and then i mean, once we get to election day, it's going to be almost four years in the past. is january 6th, do you think, the motivator the biden campaign thinks it might be? >> it is not the greatest motivator today, and so i think there's a question for the biden campaign. is the leaning in on protecting democracy, giving speeches like we will see today, is that the

moral obligation of a sitting president to protect democracy, moral obligation being the words of one biden adviser, or is it raw political strategy. i think the biden administration would tell you it's both, and here's why, chris. even though it may not be the issue that is most resonant today with voters, one of the ways you change that dynamic is you put the sitting president with a bully pulpit telling americans, yes, it is the most important issue. what i think they hope to do is honor the obligation of the office, a sitting president saying we must protect democracy in the face of threats of donald trump, while also trying to make it an issue that does inform political voters one direction or the other. i would say the last thing it does for joe biden is it creates a space for him on this issue to run adjacent to all of donald trump's trials. he will not want to be asked or opined on all of the trials on the day to day ins and outs of donald trump's perhaps even conviction this summer, but simply stating about protecting

democracy allows him to address that issue in a context that is very complementary to what the rest of america will be seeing play out in courtrooms. >> peter, maryland governor wes moore was on msnbc actually with jen psaki yesterday, and she asked him give us your kind of 30 second elevator pitch for why joe biden should be reelected. here's part of what he said. >> we have a president who doesn't just see us but a president who's fighting for us. and we know what the alternative is. the alternative is someone who's going to spend the next ten months fighting for his own future, fighting for his own freedom. the thing that makes me so excited to get out there every single day and campaign for this president is not because i'm scared of the alternative, but it's because i know what we can get done and what he's already gotten done on behalf of the american people. >> peter, it sounds like part of what biden is going to say is that people should be scared about what might happen if donald trump is elected

president. can you pivot back and forth on messaging, you know, you have this darker warning about what donald trump means on one hand but also trying to say here's this optimistic vision for the future. >> yeah, it's a real line to straddle, but i think it's probably important for them in their view to emphasize the positive as well in this year to come because, in fact, that is part of the contrast. that joe biden is not focused on his trials and not focused on defending against 91 felony counts. not focused on himself. joe biden is focused on americans. while that sounds like a positive message, it's also a contrast message agains the former president. >> congressman, this is the tough question, i think, for this campaign, is it possible that the real challenge here is not the message but the man? he can't change what we know voters are concerned about and

that is his age. they think he's too old. >> glad you asked that, chris. we've seen several strategies from the white house. the main one being humor. i think what the biden administration is and joe biden himself need to do is lean in on this, be direct and attack and say this election is not about my age, it's about my ideology compared to donald trump's ideology. we want a president that's fighting for all of america with an economy for all, accessible education, affordable health care, protection of democracy and your right to vote, or do you want a candidate who says he wants to be president to secret secret seek retribution. be unapologetic about your age. there's nothing you can do about it. this race is not about age. if they don't hit it head on, american voters might decide it's about age. make it about ideology and win this race against donald trump. >> ali, let's talk donald trump now. he's going to be where you are. two campaign stops as i understand tonight, but then

also next week two stops on two different days in courtrooms, places he does not have to be as i understand it. why is he going? why is he taking time off the campaign trail? >> look, we've watched him show up time and again for these court hearings almost as a way to continue ginning up his base to say they're still coming after me, and frankly, we've seen that it's working. but the fact that he is in iowa is notable because it makes sense given the fact that the caucus is so soon. the reason he hasn't been here so consistently is perhaps best summed up by his son eric yesterday. watch. >> in one rally my father will see more people than desantis will over his entire time. the people of the state really love him. and he loves the people of the state. honestly, i think his true hope is that we win iowa so big and so decisively by having people

that iowa honestly ends it. >> reporter: certainly, chris, the polls tee up that level of expectation. trump has had a comfortable lead frankly the entirety of this primary, but he will be coming back to the state, and i think it's important on the court front, this is going to be a primary election that is played out in the courts for the front runner and the presumed nominee of the republican party, donald trump. he has no choice but to try to turn those into political advantages because on its face, it's not good to be facing 91 counts that you have to defend yourself in court from. we have seen him time and again be able to turn that into a fund-raising mechanism, a way to consolidate republicans to his cause, yes. but there's also the reality that on january 6th to take this back to where it started, in congress it's still a date that is in history, yes, but informs the way that this government is working or rather not working at all in bipartisan fashion and it's also going to be a stark reminder next year despite the fact that it's four years away because of the way that you

started this segment, chris. the fact that there are voters who are still actively telling us that they are not going to support election results unless their candidate, the republican wins, and that republican candidate is still out here on the campaign trail saying that the election was stolen from him, no matter what, january 6th either directly or indirectly is at stake and will come into play in a very big way in this 2024 election. doesn't matter whether the candidates make it about that explicitly or not. for the voters there is already a seed of doubt that was planted and watered and grown by donald trump. if he's on the ballot, that's only going to continue. >> so that brings me, i guess, almost full circle if i can, peter, which is to this. it's interesting to hear eric trump say that their hope is iowa ends it, right? he wins so big that, honestly, most people are going to look at it and say it's done. it's over with. is that your observation of how the biden white house is treating this right now? is eric trump right?

>> well, you know, look, in terms of the republican nomination, i don't think the biden people are counting on anybody other than trump being the nominee. they might maybe have their outside hopes, but the truth is trump is probably the nominee they think they run best against. i mean, it is, you know, the trump people would like to shut it off. they would like to say we're done with this nomination ballot before they get into the heavy duty court stuff, which will start in march, if these trials go forward. and they'd like it to be done by then. it may not be done by then but it probably will. by then you'll have a super tuesday, unless there's some real surprise, trump is very likely to have racked up enough delegates to claim that he is the punitive nominee of the party, even as the first jury is being picked for his first criminal trial. they'd like to able to time that in a way that the jury trial doesn't become a factor in that nomination fight. >> peter baker, gabe gutierrez, ali vitali, and david jolly, good to see all of you. have a great weekend. thank you. a former capitol police officer who battled the mob on

january 6th has launched his campaign to join the ranks of those lawmakers who he defended that day. now retired officer harry dunn announced on "morning joe" today he is running to represent maryland's third district. part of his mission, to protect democracy. >> i think on january 6th it exposed, one, how weak and fragile that it is, and i don't think it's an exaggeration to say it may sound scary, but we are one election away from the extinction of democracy as we know it. >> dunn rose to prominence as a key witness during the inaugural hearing of the january 6th committee. he now joins a crowded democratic primary field to replace retiring congressman john sarbanes. coming up, a look into the latest batch of unsealed documents from the jeffrey epstein case. the details on how teenage girls were lured to his florida home when we're back in 60 seconds. . 579 breaths to show 'em your stuff.

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we now have another batch of newly unsealed jeffrey epstein documents, this time detailing how many girls, many of them younger than 18, were convinced not just to come to his florida home, but to get their friends to come too. nbc investigative correspondent tom winter is following the latest developments in this case. take us through this new batch of documents. >> right, so i think one of the key things that this focused on is a lot of what was discovered by palm beach detectives, especially the lead detective on the case who is now deceased. it had some depositions from him, depositions that i actually had not seen before. we've seen his police files before, but we hadn't seen his depositions, but it's a lot of kind of similar territory in a great synopsis of what he found over the course of the investigation. 33 women, the majority of which were under 18, only two of which had any massage experience, and as we know from covering the

ghislaine maxwell trial, the indictment of jeffrey epstein, the idea that these were, quote, unquote massages and would often turn sexual, that's where the alleged sexual abuse occurred. when you look at this, he goes through -- they had a whole process set up to bring in these underage girls. they had no experience. they were recruited. they were brought in, and it matches a lot of the evidence that we heard during the maxwell trial. it just shows the type of machine in a really horrible way that he had set up to be able to get these women in to commit horrible crimes against them. >> do we have any idea more documents and when? >> definitely more documents as soon as today. a number of the documents that came out yesterday were some medical files and health files attached to virginia giuffre. going forward here, and it's no surprise following the judge's order, a lot of these names and a lot of the things we're starting to see we've seen before. they're motions that we have

followed in the past. there's just certain parts that are now unredacted, but a lot of the names have been previously associated with jeffrey epstein or pertain to things that have been litigated in other courts. there's been all sorts of civil litigation here, and i think the important thing for people to keep in mind, you know, a lot of folks thought, oh, there's going to be a list. we're going to find out about all these secret things that happened over the years. if you follow this case closely, you'd realize that it wasn't going to be there because there was no evidence of it. if there were evidence of it, certainly the civil attorneys who were involved in this, who were representing these victims because they didn't feel like they got justice from the justice department with that original plea deal, if they had evidence that other men were involved, these are men that all have deep, deep pockets, and i think they would have gone after them in a civil sense. and we just haven't seen that. so ultimately, we'll see what comes out in the remaining files, but i don't expect at this point anything that will radically change our understanding of what happened. it just deepens what the attorneys have talked about it,

the really sad understanding of what happened to these young girls. >> horrific. >> yes. >> tom winter, thank you. secretary of state antony blinken is back on the ground in the middle east for the fourth time in three months as he tries to tamp down fears that the israel-hamas war will expand to a greater regional war. for the children still inside gaza, unicef says they are caught in a nightmare. our team on the ground spoke to one mother in rafa, struggling to find milk for her 4-month-old baby even turning to warming whatever water is available and putting it in his ppacifier. they say their son, quote, has been crying for four to five days. he is in pain and he is swollen from the cold. nbc's josh lederman is in tel aviv for us. also with us former israeli con sell general in new york, ambassador alon pinkus. how does everything we saw this week impact his latest mission

here? >> reporter: it certainly raises the stakes, chris, because now the secretary of state is going to have to try to are prevent these rising tensions from spiraling into a regional war with new concerning developments in iran, in iraq, syria, lebanon, in the red sea. the state department says that is a key part of why he's going to israel and the occupied west bank, and that he will be emphasizing during his visits to u.s. allies like turkey, qatar, the uae, egypt, and jordan the need for them to try to get some of these iran-backed proxies to back down. the state department says blinken will also be making that point to the israelis as he tries to prevent this from really escalating. >> ambassador, secretary blinken is now facing a major divide as "the washington post" puts it, quote, controversial prolzs from some israeli officials to

evacuate gaza from camps in egypt or other countries are causing rifts with washington, europe, and the united nations. how does he even begin to navigate this? >> i've got to tell you, chris, it's almost impossible because to the administration, to the biden administration's credit, they have warned netanyahu last december, december of 2022, to be very careful with the coalition that he was on the verge of forming with the extremists. now comes payday, and they're making all these moronic extremists dumb ideas and -- and making all these stupid ideas, flatten the gaza strip. starve the population, deny them water. deny them food, nuke them one idiot -- sorry for the expression -- minister said, so now the u.s. has a handful because on the one hand, they have warned netanyahu and he did not heed the advice.

on the other hand, they have a crisis to imagine, the americans do, and they can't do anything but deal with this government, and what they are particularly upset about or disappointed is a better word, chris, is that mr. netanyahu is not rejecting those it suggestions, the statements. he's condoning them. so i really, honestly, don't envy secretary blinken trying to balance and play this game. >> yeah, and even if they're trying to figure out how to deescalate the tensions, there's also the question, right, and this has been a question for a while now, but what do we do when this war is over? and the israeli defense minister's office released an outline for what they envisioned for post-war gaza now. they say the restoration of gaza would be led by the u.s. do you see the u.s. doing that, and what does it look like? >> well, i could see the u.s. being a part of it. i can't see the u.s. leading

this, and both secretary blinken and then vice president kamala harris articulated a plan, not a very detailed plan, but a plan nonetheless, in which there is an interim international force with a major arab component in it including the palestinian -- revitalized as the president said, president biden said, palestinian authority. in that context, in that constellation, i could see the u.s. being a part of it because it's sort of consistent -- it is sort of consistent with the u.s.'s vision that there are two axes being put or placed, one against each other. an axis of terrorism, anarchy, chaos, and disorder led by iran, syria, hezbollah, the houthis in yemen, hamas, and mentored by

russia, and a counterveiling axis, which is led by the u.s., which includes israel, saudi arabia, qatar, and the united arab emirates and jordan, et cetera. so i do see the u.s. being a part of it, but here's the catch. israel is the least cooperative component of that axis right now, and that, you know, that sets secretary blinken's visit for disappointment. >> ambassador alon pinkus, thank you, it's good to have you on the program again. up next, two more states joining the legal fight to keep trump off the are primary ballot. plus, our interview coming up this hour with a trans woman who was running for office in ohio. why she was just disqualified. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. g "chrisg reports" only on msnbc (♪♪) your eyes close. (♪♪) and you realize you're in love...

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out of new york where attorney general letitia james is now calling for a massive punishment in donald trump's civil fraud case. a $370 million fine and a lifetime ban from the new york real estate industry. i'm going to bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin, all of this was just filed today right at the deadline. what jumped out to you from the attorney general's filing? >> you know, chris, what really jumped out to me is that the attorney general is seeking much more in what's called disgorgement or clawing back

profits from the trump organization and the other individual defendants here. we have referred to this case as the $250 million civil fraud case for over a year now. we have to change that language because what she has told judge arthur engoron, she has proven at trial she is entitled to collect $370 million in disgorgement, and and her brief today goes through each of the categories of profits that the trump organization, donald trump, his adult sons and others have obtained to get to that $370 million number. >> so i'm looking at these numbers, $168 million of interest allegedly saved through fraud, 152 they sold the old post office in washington, d.c., 60 million through the transfer of ferry point golf course, 2.5 million from severance agreements from weisselberg and mcconney.

how much weight do you think these recommendations will carry with the judge? >> you know, it's hard to say exactly how much weight these recommendations will sway him. on the other hand, i think that the judge is likely to credit the numbers, at least in terms of the testimony matching up with these numbers. does that mean that he's going to give the attorney general everything that they asked for? no, because disgorgement is an equitable remedy. it's not like compensatory damages where you are trying to show that somebody took from you an exact amount that you are owed. so there's a lot of flexibility for the judge here. at least in terms of how these numbers were calculated, i do think judge engoron is likely to credit the way that the attorney general got to these numbers and the testimony that allowed them to bring forth these calculations in their brief today, chris. >> i'm just looking at a summary of the defense motion, and i haven't read the whole thing. my guess is knowing you you probably have gone through it very quickly, but one of the

arguments that they're making -- and we heard it in court when you were covering it -- is that the a.g. had not demonstrated any real world impact and that the banks did their own due diligence, and they made a decision to go ahead and loan this money. i wonder what you see as the highlights out of the defense motion and their filing today? >> i think that's definitely one of them, and it's an argument that has some real world appeal. there were no victims here argument is one that intuitively any of us can look at and say, well, then why is the attorney general pursuing this case. i'll give you their response to that. their response is that if people can commit fraud rampantly against financial institutions, that degrades the integrity of the financial markets for all of us, irrespective of whether deutsche bank here or ladder capital which is another financial institution involved actually believes they suffered damages. the other thing i can say is there came a point in time where

deutsche bank stopped lending to donald trump, and while their witnesses weren't necessarily forthcoming about all the reasons that was, part of it had to be because of a concern that the numbers that he was reporting to them, even if they were able to do their own due diligence and discount his stated financial worth, there were concerns about him as a person that they were lending to that caused them to terminate that relationship and change that dynamic considerably. >> lisa rubin with this breaking news, thank you as always, it's good to see you. two more states have now joined the growing fight to kick donald trump off the 2024 ballot. voters in illinois and massachusetts have now filed petitions to remove the former president from their state's primary ballots. those filings cite the same so-called insurrection clause that was used successfully in maine and colorado. those two states remain the only ones where trump has been disqualified, both decisions have been appealed with trump

asking the u.s. supreme court to step in on the colorado case. joining me now, barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney, university of michigan law professor and an msnbc legal analyst, and author of the upcoming book "attack from within: how disinformation is sabotaging america." that is due out february 27th. that's a great cover, barbara. congrats on the book. i wonder, do you expect that we're going to keep seeing these challenges pop up over and over again until the supreme court weighs in, if they do? >> i do, chris. you know, it only takes a handful of citizens, frankly even one citizen to file one of these challenges in these states it's a group of democrat and republican voters who say that trump is disqualified under the plain language of the 14th amendment. i fully expect that the court will take up this issue. there's some question as to whether donald trump himself would ask the court to take it up, maybe preferring to take his

lumps in states where he's not going to win anyway. i think that ultimately he now has filed this request with the supreme court to decide this question and so it is squarely on their plate. i think they have to. there's just too much chaos going on, and i also think that even though so far we've only seen sort of red states taking up these issues -- i'm sorry, blue states taking up these issues, it matters to donald trump because you could imagine that when someone is casting their ballot and thinking, well, donald trump may not be on the ballot ultimately, so i don't want to waste my vote by voting for him in the primary. so he has a real stake in this, and so i think the court does have to decide it a decide it quickly. >> i do think you mentioned something really interesting that for the mostt this effort is being driven by regular citizens and nonprofit groups. infa, there was a brewing company owner and leral activist who filed an unsuccessful challenge t trump's eligibility in wisconsin, and he told "the new york times" how did we get to this point where you have random brewers in wisconsin throwing hail marys to try to get trump

off the ballot? he told the times he wishes someone more prominent would have taken up the cause. but barbara does the who matter? could you make the argument, in fact, that it is everyday people who ultimately have the big stake in this and may have to indeed protect our democracy? >> absolutely. this is one of the things that makes our country great, anyone really does have the standing in their own state to bring a challenge. now, whether they're successful is a different matter because every state has its own procedural mechanism for how this all works, which is why we're seeing wildly different results in california, colorado, maine, michigan, minnesota, but ultimately, the core question here is a substantive one. and that is one that really only the supreme court can answer, and so regardless of who brings it, the supreme court ultimately is going to make this decision. and there are a number of significant legal questions to be decided. anybody who thinks this is a slam dunk one way or another i think is really missing the nuance here.

there are about eight different legal questions that have to be answered to decide whether this provision bars donald trump, and ultimately the supreme court is going to have to answer those. >> and finally, barbara, i mean, i do want to just sort of remind you that i'm from ohio, but any commentary you want to make about football or predictions you might want to make about football? >> oh, funny you should ask because i will be in houston on monday night washington the michigan wolverines defeat the washington huskies to claim the national championship trophy. so all i have to say about that is go blue. >> yeah, the buckeyes aren't even in it, but good luck to you anyway, she says with her fingers crossed. barbara mcquade, safe travels to you. >> thank you. we'll speak to a transgender woman in ohio who wanted to run for office. she said she had enough signatures, but there's a detail that kept her off the ballot altogether. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ching "cg reports" only on msnbc

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a transgender woman running for public office in ohio said she was taken off the ballot because she didn't list the names she had before she transitioned. vanessa joy submitted paperwork to run a a democrat for that ohio house of representatives and she got enough valid signatures to qualify. but officials rejected her citing a state law that mandates

candidates must provide any name changes within the last five years. joy called theaw, quote, a brand new way that republicans can use to kp trans people off the ballot. in response, asentative for the ohio secretary of stat told nbc news -- and i'm quoting -- the law applies to everyone. it is cynical and unfair to criticize the stark county board of elections for their unanimous and bipartisan decision to follow ohio law. vanessa joy joins me now. thanks for being with us. what's your response to that? and i wonder if you think you might have a successful appeal here. >> well, i never said that it doesn't apply unilaterally to everyone in ohio. i actually agree with the law, and it's designed to keep bad players from changing their names and running for office. the law just happens to be discriminatory by proxy to the trans -- to the trans community, so i honestly don't think my appeal is going to go very far.

i just found out that they did not receive it so when i get off with you, i have to drive it over to the board of elections to submit it in person. >> what is the basis of your appeal? and what do you want folks to know about why this is so important to the trans community? >> the basis of my appeal is the 2024 candidate guide for the state of ohio put out by the secretary of state's office does not mention anything in its 33 page length about this particular law, nor do the petitions themselves mention anything about it or have any place to put a second name on it. it's a barrier to entry for trans people because we -- many of us, our dead names are dead. it's our past. it's not who we are to the point where -- >> i'm wondering if you can talk

a little bit about why you wanted to get in this race. what is it that made you want to put yourself out there in this way? because let's not kid ourselves, politics is a messy business in the best of circumstances. >> i wanted to get into it in order to show other people that they shouldn't be afraid of running, give them courage to run. i wanted to run on a platform where i would actually represent the people rather than work through party politics, so my goal was to find a way to provide universal child care to ohioans, be something that i could bridge the gap between republican and democrats. my district is mainly republican, i would need to sway republican votes. my hope was to break the republican super majority in ohio, so not being able to be on the ballot, it's heartbreaking.

>> your disqualification also comes just days after ohio made national hdles because the republican governor, mike dewine vetoed republican-backed bill that would have restricted both transition-related care for minors and transgender girls participation in school sports teams, but we just learned -- and this just came in moments ago -- that the governor issued an executive order banning hospitals from performing gender affirming surgeries on people under 18. i wonder what your reaction is to what's going on in ohio right now? >> the hb-68 thing is personal to me. my stepfather is bill rumor. i've never met him thankfully. as for dewine's executive order today, that's making a mountain out of a mole hill because they don't perform gender affirming surgeries on minors, period. it might happen very rarely, but it is not the common practice. i personally have had it, but

i'm 42. so. >> let me ask you finally, when do you expect that you'll learn about the results of your appeal and i hope you'll let us know how that goes. >> i mean, i hope next week, but who knows how fast the government's going to work, so -- but since this is pretty political, i imagine that might get sped up. >> vanessa joy, we thank you so much for taking the time to help us understand what's going on there. and we appreciate it. >> okay. thank you. up next, the parole decision grabbing the sports world's attention, you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. i was short of breath just reading a book... but i didn't wait. they told their doctors. and found out they had... atrial fibrillation. a condition which makes it about five times more likely to have a stroke. if you have one or more of these symptoms irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue or lightheadedness, contact your doctor. this is no time to wait.

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from north carolina to maine, at least 33 million americans are under winter storm alerts this weekend. people in the northeast are now getting their plows and shovels and salt ready with some communities bracing for the potential of the first major snowfall in two years. this is started along the pacific coast, dumping snow from california to texas and kansas as it pushes east. nbc news meteorologist bill karins is tracking this for us. i know you're being pommelled with questions. >> i'm actually important. >> how, what, when, where, high. >> as we head through saturday, it starts in the appalachians, and then it will move its way

northwards. by the time we get to new york city it's going to be late afternoon, hartford will be after sunset. boston as we head towards 8:00 to 10:00 p.m. this is the snow forecast. and the big deal going into the storm is it hasn't snowed an inch in two years in d.c., baltimore, philly or new york, and this does not appear to be the storm that's going to break that streak. i don't see any snow coming, so we're likely going over two years in some cases. once you move to the interior, these are the areas that typically get the most snow, higher elevations, and they will be flowing, shoveling through sunday morning. boston, 3 to 6. if you go five miles away from the coast in boston, you'll be in the 8 to 12. that's 495 loop heading out to the wooster hills. portland, maine, scranton, binghamton, everyone there will be shoveling and plowing. the only ice i'm worried about. around roanoke. some areas could get up to a quarter inch.

you could have minor problems. that's going to be early saturday morning. when you step out of your house in western portions of virginia, just check the sidewalk first and make sure it doesn't have a coating of black ice. here's the time line, all of the rain spreads. we will get some snow as we go throughout tomorrow morning. not a lot will stick. it's not cold enough. louisville, lexington, cincinnati, indianapolis, this is the ice i was talking about. the mountain boone, asheville to roanoke, and then we watch washington, d.c., that's going to come into 7:00 a.m. to noon. maybe a brief period of snow, but then it's going to be rain. temperatures are never below freezing. no chance of snow sticking on the roads. philadelphia, timing is noon to four, and all rain after 4:00 p.m. new york city, sometime in mid afternoon, we think you're going to be either snow or rain. then it will quickly go over to rain and even a hard rain saturday evening. could end as a little bit of snow, but likely not going to get that inch. boston, different story, colder,

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