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and welcome to morning joe: weekend. let's dive right into the week's top stories. let's begin this morning with a new report from house democrats that alleges the first two years of donald trump's presidency. his family business received seven point $8 million from foreign governments. democrats on the republican-led house oversight committee yesterday released the findings of an investigation that began back in 2016 into violations of the constitution's foreign -- cause. the report finds from 2017, to 2019 alone, trump's businesses received at least seven point $8 million from 24 in governments. most of that money? according to the report came from china! whose government allegedly paid more than five and a half million dollars to rent out trump's own properties during that time. the government of saudi arabia
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where, trump visited on his first foreign trip as president paid his business is more than $600,000. the. information stems from documents obtained from the trump's former accounting firm. in 2019 the report only covers the first two years of the trump presidency. once republicans regain the house majority in 2022, they ended democrats investigation. we know also that jared kushner, after leaving the white house, got a lot more money from saudi arabia but this also makes the republicans investigation into the biden family, over similar types of behavior? it's unbelievable. just trump could do anything and republicans do not care they. just do not care? >> and republicans already after this report came out, they tried to draw an equivalency with joe biden suggesting was that he did was,
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with new evidence of, it was worse than this. let's talk now to one of the republicans who offered that report. in the house oversight committee, congressman robert garcia. congressman take us through this a little bit more. there was an assumption, and in fact there was some reporting over the course of trump's first term that this was going on. that he stepped away from his businesses, but countries know well that stepping away from his hotels, but giving money to his real estate company would be helpful to them. and the influence over the united states. what more did you find in this report? >> good morning, it's important to realize furs that this is an enormous grift. this is a violation of the constitution, this is about foreign payments and bribes to the presidents of the u.s., from multiple foreign governments in the countries. i also want to know what's important. what we have in front of us is really just the tip of the iceberg. the nearly $8 million that we are discussing is essentially not only a two-year window,
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it's only from four properties owned by donald trump. donald trump has hundreds, hundreds of properties and businesses around the world. it's very limited in what we can actually look at. we know that the full scope of the hundreds of bill's nurses and the bribes is much larger, the james comer who chairs our oversight committee, stopped the investigation immediately. this is very concerning. we demand this investigation to continue, and to reveal the full scope of this incredible grift. but the amount of money is not just coming from these 20 governments. we know that there are other countries that we don't have receipts and records for like russia. who have made payments for the trump organization, and we're going to find out the truth because it has both national security implications, but certainly violations of the prosecution. >> you can anticipate, i know you haven't heard yet from donald trump in the campaign, we can expect a truth social
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post any moment i suspect. he would say that he stepped away from his businesses, that his sons were running the businesses at the time and therefore, somehow, this was okay. that we know he did not fully divest, we know he never fully steps away from his businesses, but what do you say that argument that it was in fact his children, his adult children who are running the businesses while he was president? who are r i think look, wer that donald trump said years ago that he would be the first person to make money off of the presidency. he said that publicly, we should believe donald trump whenever he speaks. in addition to that, i think it's really important to note here that when donald trump talks about the president, or the president's family, or they're attacking the president, look at jared kushner in saudi arabia, jared kushner, because we mentioned at the top of the show, got a two billion dollar investment fund from the saudi government also after leaving the white house. he was the middle east envoy during the time in the white house. the secretary of state, trump's first secretary of state oppose jared kushner, kushner puts
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together at 110 billion dollar arms deal with saudi arabia, and saudi arabia at the same time is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, on the records and i'm sure it's much more than that, on trump properties here in d.c. and in other places though this is clearly a major grift but most importantly, it's a violation of the constitution, so republicans need to do the right thing here and we need to get all the records and information and hold donald trump and his family accountable. >> the jared kushner, all the stuff that happened after the presidency, let's put aside the grossness of that for a second, representative garcia, and talk about why this is a violation of the constitution, why this is bad for our country and how behavior like this impacts our national security by impacting the presidents ability to make a decision, how it exposes america and america's safety through the presidency to other
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governments, even our enemies? >> that is absolutely correct, i think first let's be very clear that a president cannot take gifts, certainly cannot take bribes from any foreign government while they serve as president, whether they have business interests or not. that is clearly in the constitution and so what we have uncovered about 1 million dollars and likely of course millions and millions more that we do not have records from, even taking one gift is a violation of the constitution, so donald trump, this has never happened before in american history where you have a president taking as much as possible and so it directly impacts our national security. was president trump, was his family, was jared kushner, the middle east envoy making decisions knowing that they were getting payback, getting investments into the trump organization? and it's not of course just saudi arabia, or china, it's kuwait, it's the uae, it's qatar, it's the governments that have had major, national
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security relationships with the united states, governments have had interest with the united states and other foreign powers and we've got to investigate this fully. i'm committed to that, the oversight committee is committed to that but james comer and the republicans have nothing to do with this information. >> my question is to you though, as you continue the investigation and if you do to uncover what is alleged here, or much more of what you have already found, what are the consequences? >> look, i think first, we're gonna put together led by jamie raskin, a member of our committee, we're gonna put together a package of reforms that we are going to present to the congress to deal with this part of the constitution, to strengthen laws around this important cause within the prosecution, but the american public at the right to know. one is, we want transparency and the full recording of what actually happened. this year the public are to make choices within the election, choices by donald trump, choices about president
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biden and they have to know the full scope of the corruption of the con, of the grift, of the illegal activity that donald trump performed while he was president of the united states and how his children benefited and continue to benefit from those investments. the trump organization and donald trump essentially created himself as the leader of this organization inlving the white house to basically follow money from foreign governments to himself and his family. that is wrong in the american public deserve to know the truth and we're committed to that truth. >> congressman, we have evidence here that the trump family profited while he was in office. that is the exact claim that their republican colleagues are trying to make about the biden family. the biden family, hunter biden, profited from his father while he was vice president. so, they have of course provided no clear evidence of that. unlike what you have done. tell us how you will bring this to your republican colleagues. what do you think? does this change anything?
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do you make that argument? and frankly, what do you think is the future of the hunter biden probes which again, members of your committee are trying to make and the central part of president biden's reelection campaign? >> let's be clear. there is zero evidence of course that we know that links president biden with any wrongdoing. republicans cannot come up with any information, or any sort of wrongdoing. and they are clearly projecting. this report shows where the real grift and corruption, and illegal activity is. we have receipts, we have bank records, we have accounting, it is all there for its laid out in the report. and there is much more to be recovered. republicans, it is incredible to see the hypocrisy that house republicans, that james comer, that the news speaker are trying to put together with this impeachment scam that they have put together and essentially try to attack the biden family but president biden has no business interests, since he served as president, donald trump has a complex web
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of ways to pull money from foreign governments to enrich himself and his family. so we're gonna make that contrast clear to republicans, that they want to just throw whatever they can at the wall. they've been doing that with the oversight committee but this report is incredibly important, we're gonna make sure that people know about it and regular get this report out to republicans as well. >> all right, democratic member of the house oversight committee, congressman robert garcia. thank you so much for coming on the show this morning. thank you for your work. and we will talk to you again soon. jean robinson, so happy to say that name again. this should matter and yet? we know, we know what the response is going to be from many congressional republicans and republican leaders in washington, and republican presidential candidates. we know that they will quiver and quake and not talk about the difference between right and wrong and yet this matters. still ahead on morning joe! we will go live to the white
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press secretary, jean-pierre, great to have you on. happy new year. >> happy new year! thanks for having me. >> jumping into this with darren and the overall strategy on the economy. i'm just curious, is there more good news to come on the economy? i just, i think that there are some who might say that it is a little perilous to label an economy, like bidenomics with the presidents name, because this is something that could be impacted by unforeseen events in ways that cannot be controlled? >> well, i will say something else. and micah, thank you so much
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for having me. and everyone there at morning joe. i will say something that we have said, we are headed in the right direction as it relates to the economy, and look when we left 2023 we saw that that, and we paid attention to the data that showed commune consumer confidence was up. that showed that 40 million jobs were created and we saw at unemployment under for many months. that is something we are going to pay attention to. and what the president has also said, the job is not done. we need to do more. two words, two words that i'm going to give you that we're going to continue to do as it relates to the economy is to continue to lower costs. and that has been at the center of bidenomics that has been at the center, the president feels like he needs to move forward. and it will take a step back, in the last two years, almost three years now the president has done more in the last three years and the presidents have done in some two terms. and that is related to the
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legislation. when you think about infrastructure, when you think about the chips and science act. all of these things are incredibly important, and as we move forward into 2024, the presidents priority as well as lowered costs for american people, is to make sure that we implement, we implement those pieces of legislation. when we think about prescription drugs, continue to lower that, make sure that we are negotiating with big pharma. the president beat big pharma last year. so that's how we deal with whatever may come our way, is making sure that we are moving forward and implementing those key pieces of legislation. >> we're gonna talk about some of that strong, economic data with steve on our next segment. good morning, good to have you with us. >> good morning. >> let me ask you about the new poll that just came out today, the usa suffolk poll, that as warning signs for you at the white house along the coalition that supported democrats, that has supported this president for so long. according to this ball, the president now has 63% of support for black voters, 87%
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of support in 2020. among latino voters, perhaps most troubling, he won that grew by 33 points in the election. donald trump now leads among latinos voters by five point. how do you explain those numbers? >> yes, and willie, good to see you as well. i'm gonna be very careful because you mentioned donald trump, and i'm gonna be very careful in that talking about the 2024 election. but i will say that it's important for us, like jared prone seen, and people like myself to talk to all of you. and lay out what we have done for those two critical communities. you're right, in 2020 the president was able to bring together the most, the largest most historic coalition that we have ever seen. the democrats had ever seen. so obviously we want to continue that. what we have done for the black community, and the last two new community, the black community when the president walked in unemployment was that 9%, now it's under 6%. that's because of bidenomics where we started this conversation.
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there was certainly, in the latino community, we saw unemployment go down. and we side also when you think about wealth, the wealth gap, the economic wealth, they grew with both communities. so look, the president has always, always put equity at the center of every policy has put forward. every legislation that he has put forward. because we understand that many communities have been left behind. have been left behind. we are not trying to do the trickle down economics. we really and truly are not. that's not what the president believes in. he wants to make sure that the middle class, we're building the economy bottom-up and that we continue to build the middle class. that is what it's continued to be important, and world will not leave anyone behind. we will continue to have those conversations to let that strong coalition know what we have done in the last two, almost three years now with this administration. and again, what this president has been steadfast on. making sure that we give that relief to the american people. >> so, karine, with all that said.
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with the data taken out. we could take this in the contest of the election. whether perspective chopra formats of the president. how do you explain to the groups that have supported joe biden for so long. joe biden for so long. looking at, not just young voters to, not that they're looking at donald trump but they are looking at other choices. how do you explain them straying from this president? from the democratic party? >> again, i'm going to be super mindful of 2024 as we are stepping. as we are into an election year. look, we understand with the american people went through this past three years. we came out of a pandemic. a pandemic that we have not seen in 100 years. and when the president walked in the economy was upside down. and so we get it. we get that it's gonna take a little bit of time for folks to feel that bidenomics has been able to do. that's not something that i am saying that something that economists have said. it takes a little bit of time. but it does not mean that the president is not going to
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continue to work. one of the president things said at the union last year was that he was going to finish the job. finishing the job is continuing to do that unity agenda. getting that out of our streets. making sure that we're not again leaving anybody behind. but also making sure that our veterans are getting what they need. making sure that all of the important things that affect us in our public health like cancer. really dealing with that issue as well. there is been a couple of times that i've been on the show. i have talked about than prevention. preventing gun violence. that's gonna be something that the president is going to focus on. guns should not be the number one killer of our children. so he's going to continue to figure out how we do more there. making sure that it becomes the water of the land. and that's something that we're gonna work on. the president is gonna continue to focus on. and speak to the american people. you'll see the president doing that certainly this year. >> good morning.
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happy new year. congress comes back next week and with a lot on there to do less. so we know the white house has been pushing for the supplemental board security deal for the aid in ukraine. and of course the government funding deadline also. but i want to ask you about something that a lot of republicans are focusing on right now. that's the impeachment inquiry into the president. the white house has made clear that they do not believe that there is any evidence there. but talk to us about how you are preparing for what is coming in the weeks and months ahead which will be, if nothing else, a drain on staff, time, personnel, and resources? >> the white house counsel certainly is dealing with this issue. certainly isemily that's of the. that is something in their purview. but you said it jonathan, there is no evidence. and it's not just coming from democrats, it's coming from republicans as well. there is no there, there. it's so unfortunate that republicans in congress want to focus on the presidents family, instead of on the american family.
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we want to work with them in a bipartisan way to get things done. we just talked about, leading into your question, we just talked about the list of things that i discussed, that we discuss, that we really need to work on for the american family. whether it's gun violence prevention, where able to do, last year the year before in 2022 we were able to come in a bipartisan way to put out a significant bipartisan legislation to deal with gun violence. the first time in 30 years. we need to do that. we need to continue to work together on border security. the president the first day and administration in a couple of weeks we're gonna hit three years since the president had been in the administration. the first thing that he put forward was a comprehensive immigration law. that what he put forward to congress and that's because he believed that our system was broken. and that it had been broken for decades and wanted to take that seriously. but we need republicans in congress to work with us on that. we appreciate the negotiations currently happening in the senate. it's headed in the right direction. we want to come up with a bipartisan agreement. but we saw the house passed in the ending of last year.
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they wanted to take away lot enforcement folks who are at the border. who are trying to protect our border. and so, that's not what we want to see. we want to figure out how we work together. we just talked about the agenda. there is a lot of ways that we could work with congress instead of them going after the president's family, they should really and truly focus on the american family. >> white house press secretary, karine jean-pierre thank you for coming on this morning. happy new year! good to see you. coming up! how 2024 is shaping up to be the biggest global election year in history! we will explain that straight ahead! gh ahead!
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in many of the largest and most important elections including in the united states, it is democracy itself that will be on the ballot. nbc news foreign correspondent matt has more. >> i will prevent world war iii. >> 2024 will be a bumper year for elections. and not just in the u.s., more than half of the world's population live in countries with nationwide voting this year. it could be the largest expression of democracy in human history. if democracy is on the march autocracies seems to be striving rep aside it. >> we're seeing all these elections in 2024. is democracy also on the ballot? >> democracy is on the ballot. in fact you have this paradox that defines global democracy right now. you have more elections in human history and yet the world is becoming less democratic here on the air. >> some elections like russia, bangladesh, mexico, and
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pakistan will be held in countries where international monitors say the elections could be compromised. or they simply won't carry much political weight. africa maybe the country with most elections, but countries there suffered nine coups within just three years. and some of the biggest like the u.s., india, and indonesia. voters will be asked to choose between democracy, or what some are calling a kind of creeping authoritarianism. >> you have the kind of democracy even though people go through the charade of voting. that is becoming the norm for a lot of countries around the world. but you also have it on the ballot because the u.s., which is the global democracy. the most powerful in the world. has an authoritarian candidate in donald trump going against a mainstream democracy candidate joe biden. >> public elections can damage more than just the results. they can also defame democracy, diminishing its appeal to the very voters it supposed to represent. >> the problem with that is when people go into fake democracies, and believe that democracy actually is. they start to lose faith in it.
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>> that democratic disillusionment may already be happening. a 2020 cambridge intercity study drew on surveys of 4.8 million people worldwide over nearly 50 years said young people have become steadily more dissatisfied with democracy. britain is among a number of countries that will be having elections. they all face one major issue that is going to challenge elections throughout the world. just last month the uk accused russian intelligence of trying to interfere in the upcoming parliamentary elections. using spearfishing to target officials, and lead secret documents. a target that moscow denied. artificial intelligence is already mimicking prominent politicians. just last summer hacker created a fake speech showing russian vladimir putin calling for a mass troop mobilization. and -- review hundreds of social media accounts promoting pro-china candidates ahead of taiwan for
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this year. >> the possibility of running elections by calling into question the well run elections through the use of false narratives is certainly a challenge. >> but just like any other elections run by autocrats, rapid minute relations does not only ruin elections, edge sows uncertainty, which also dense democracy's reputation. it should be a abundant year for voting, but it is in the start of its lump. >> joining us now, president emeritus of the foreign relations, the book titled the bill of obligations. the ten habits of good citizens is the basis for a new documentary. the citizens guide to preserving democracy. which premiers tonight on pbs. perfect timing for this and for this conversation. we'll get to the actual documentary in just a moment. but first richard, i want to get your reaction to what you just heard from matt bradley.
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what stands out to me is what i saw anecdotally over the holiday. i spent a lot of time with young adults. the things that were coming out of their mouths? the things that they were hearing from places on their phone that were not legitimate news organizations? i found it really scary that there is a whole generation or two, perhaps behind us, that are losing faith in democracy. are beginning to find their answers in places that are dangerous? >> happy new year. it could be an unhappy new year for exactly what you are saying. i mean think about it, if you are a young person in your twenties and 30s, what have you seen in your lifetime? you had maybe your first major alertness as 9/11. you've had several economic and financial crisis and successful wars in afghanistan in iraq.
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and they see the nonsense that goes on in washington. the inability to get stuff done. and a lot of these people say i see what democracy has done to me, but i'm not seeing what democracy is doing for me. i don't think any longer we can assume that somehow people appreciate or value democracy. and now on top of it they don't have the educational background, they don't teach that in most of our schools. they don't have a lot of history. and they don't have increasingly cool information and literacy. they don't know how to distinguish between facts and other sources of information. they do not know where to go or safeguarding the information. also the information hygiene and the multiple sources and so forth? so for all these reasons democracy is extraordinarily vulnerable in this country not to mention much of the world. >> well there are different areas in our society that blame looking at the media landscape. you can look at networks that
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continue to promote lies even though they've been paid $780 million to stop doing it. but at the same time let's look at the white house. and how the white house is managing wars on several fronts. racking up more accomplishments than you could say in the history of the modern presidency and yet, this reality and this sort of lucid of the young people. and the sense of who to believe is still happening. what should the administration be doing more of to not only get the message out that democracy is on the line but also of the accomplishments that they could draw from? >> the president has to educate more. in some ways turning the oval office into a classroom. the most effective president of modern times was ronald reagan. but going back to fdr and fireside chats. what he did with those is he took a reluctant country that
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was many wait quite isolationist and he gradually moved in the direction of the entry into world war ii when it became politically possible. and honestly it happened. and before it went to the war with things like -- we were helping the allies in europe. but he educated he, explain, he did it regularly. and i think the white house has to do more about that. >> up next we talked a homeland security mayorkas about the situation at the u.s. southern border. stay with us! you are watching morning joe weekend! weekend! ♪♪ ♪boost♪ nutrition for now. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. and it could strike at any time. think you're not at risk? wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention. have heart failure with unresolved symptoms?
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security alejandro mayorkas. thank you for being with us this morning. he rejoined those negotiations with a bipartisan group of senators trying to find a solution to what is happening. which i think you will agree is a crisis at the border right now. senator murphy, democrat of connecticut came out and said the cautions were quote, very difficult. not projecting a lot of confidence about the progress there. how would you characterize the conversations? where is somewhere that you can agree, all of you, on a bipartisan basis to fix this problem? >> thank you so much for having me this morning. the one thing in immigration that everyone agrees upon is the fact that we have been dealing with a broken immigration system for decades. and what's the bipartisan group of senators is now doing?
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is attempting to finally fix a significant part of that broken immigration system and i have been privileged to provide technical advice to them. and i am actually optimistic. these are earnest, hardworking efforts to tackle very complicated problem and making progress each and every day and despite how difficult it is that progress is ongoing and i am hopeful that an immigration fix will occur. and i should say in addition that our administration under president biden fleed or ship has fought for that long needed fix since they won. when president biden on the very first day of his administration, submitted a comprehensive immigration reform bill to congress. most recently we have sought much needed funding for our efforts to address the situation at the border. more border patrol agents.
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more asylum officers. more immigration judges. more investment in technology. to battle the scourge of fentanyl. we are focused on fixing the challenge. on fixing the problem. we are focused on solutions. >> as you know mister secretary. border patrol in the month of december, process more migrants entering the united states illegally than any month in the history of that agency. why has that happen? how do you explain it? >> we are seeing the greatest number of displaced people, not only at our southern border. not only in the western hemisphere but across the globe. i am involved in bilateral, multi lateral meetings with my counterparts from foreign countries in europe, in asia, and in the indo-pacific all over the world in migration the challenge of displaced people is the subject that comes up in
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every single conversation. we have the effects of climate change, poverty, increasing level of authoritarianism. the very many challenges that are at the root cause of displacement of people around the world. >> so mister secretary, it is certainly a given that something needs to be done in the war. but in the interim, before something is, before something goes into effect. we are hearing from many big city mayors and governors. lots of the democrats asking washington to do more. eric adams, the mayor of university has repeatedly said that in recent days. so what more is washington crossing to do if anything to answer the calls for help? >> we have taken action on the border and we have taken action with respect to the challenges that cities across the country are facing. let me identify one fundamental problem here.
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and that is the fact that we had one governor in the state of texas that is refusing to cooperate with other governors and other local officials and quirky efforts to address a challenge that our country, which this country should stand united to address that our country is facing. and it is a remarkable failure of governance to refuse to cooperate with one's fellow, local, and state officials. but we have dispatch teams to chicago, denver, new york to namath just three. to assist them in managing the challenge. to assist them in ensuring that people who are eligible for work receive the work authorization as swiftly as possible. and we are continuing to collaborate with them. we also have successfully sought some funding from congress, and in our
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supplemental budget request we have requested additional funding for that purpose and we do hope that congress passes the critically needed funding measure. >> mister secretary, the thousands of human beings who arrive at the border of the united states, they do not get there by uber. they come through mexico. all of them. why can mexico not do more to be of assistance? >> mexico is doing a great deal, we were there in mexico city meeting with president lupus obrador. last week secretary blinken. and i am joined by the presidents security adviser. i think having migration challenge themselves, as does columbia. as does ecuador. as does costa rica. as does panama. as does well of mullah. this is a regional problem that is challenging our entire hemisphere and as i reference
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earlier, so many countries around the world. but we spoke with mexico last week about what we think they can do to assist us in enforcing their borders so that we can not see the level of illegal migration at our border. and in fact we are starting to see the results of their increased collaboration, and our increased collaboration on enforcement ours. from inflation to the war in gaza. we will take a look at the biggest news stories that show of 2023! economic growth analyst steve joins us next on morning joe! t on morning joe with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. i know what it's like to perform through pain. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks.
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pate writes in the piece, there inflation remains front of mind until the war and gaza grabbed headlines, and the world's attention, all while donald trump's candidacy loomed in the background. joining us now, he includes the 2023 lineup. economic analyst, steve adler. steve, it's good to see you at the southwest while. your polls there. let's start with chart one of ten that you've chosen for the start of the year. that's falling inflation, rising incomes. >> i am focusing mostly on the economy, and the implications for president biden. on inflation as everybody knows. the inflation soared up to 9.1 per seat in its peak in 2022. but here's what happened 2023. inflation, this black line, subsided, subsided, subsided down to 3.1% at the end of the year. but here is what maybe most people do not know. now with inflation, the price of goods for television sets,
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toys, bicycles, things like that has been basically zero for the last several months. and that's because during the pandemic people bought a lot of stuff, and drove the prices up. but now people found presumably over the holidays, there are relative bargains to be had. so inflation actually has turned way down. but what some people probably do not know is what the effect it on the incomes. i think most americans feel, and i understand why they feel it, that they have been left behind with inflation. in terms of processing power and the ability to buy things and provide for their families. but in actual fact, since the beginning of the biden administration, for the average american, typical american, their income, even adjusting for inflation is up 6.6%. that's not nothing. obviously we would like it to be more but it's not nothing. but here is what is even more surprising if you are not surprised yet. is that people at the bottom actually did better in relative terms than people at the top. people at the bottom saw their
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inflation adjusted incomes go up by almost 14%. while people at the top saw their inflation adjusted incomes going up by 1.6%. we don't want to show it to everyone. we want everyone to do well. but the idea that people at the bottom over the last three years have done better percentage wise and people at the top. should be very good news for americans. >> that's good news steve. i want to ask you to about gas prices. that's the gas and groceries that's mac most of us in the face because you watch it. the register rolling up. gas prices were over five blocks in june of 2022. now along 3:11 a gallon this morning. >> gas prices have come way down and that 3:11 may even see high to people but again on an inflation justice pieces it's on the low basis. opec started doing its three. and food prices which also surprised people were only of 8% last year. so less than the overall inflation rate. >> so as we move steve to next chart about this economy,
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defying expectations, you talk to people who may or may not have been big fans of joe biden in this election. and says while the dow was up over 70,000 from wall street's point of view. but from regular folks out working unemployment is down. what else are you looking at there? >> this was an economy and the stock market that surprise nearly all the experts. i don't think if very many if any quite predicted this. so we'll look at the economists. at the beginning of the year they were looking at a very little sliver of growth for the economy. something like a recession but not a lot of growth. what happened? this includes the fourth quarter which we will get the actual number. we have good estimates. 3% growth. a very solid, very solid performance for the economy. then you take a look at unemployment and people thought the economists thought it would edge up to close to 5% as the federal reserve raise the rates and force the economy to slow down. in fact it's just under 4% it. still more alas where it has been for several years.
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if you look tied to that is jobs growth of course. consensus for the reasons that i said expecting a slower economy. thought we would actually lose a few jobs per month. in fact we gained almost 250,000 jobs per month through november. we'll get one more number on friday this week. and then lastly as you mentioned whaley, no one can predict the s&p. let's get honest about that for starters. but they were looking at 5%, the strategists, and said they got 25%. now for joe biden's reelection let's just look ahead to what people think about 2024. so if you take this altogether they're basically looking for an economy that is still not in a recession, not growing as fast as it was. unemployment takes up a bit. job growth is a bit slower. and the stock market, who knows? but they're predicting a small increase. the point being as biden goes into his reelection the consensus among a column is is
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that we have achieved something that looks like a soft landing. little bit slower growth and a little bit less job growth as a result for now but not a big recession. a big of the tailwind for joe biden as he goes into the reelection. >> that does it for the first hour of morning joe: weekend. but we are not done yet! more of the week's top stories after the break! after the break! t of breath just reading a book... but i didn't wait. they told their doctors. and found out they had... atrial fibrillation. a condition which makes it about five times more likely to have a stroke. if you have one or more of these symptoms irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue or lightheadedness, contact your doctor. this is no time to wait. welcome to a second hour of
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morning joe: weekend! let's take a look at some of the week's top stories. on the eve of the third anniversary of january the 6th, we want to talk to some of the heroes of that day who want to save our democracy. they are members of the capitol hill police, and d.c. metro police, part of the law enforcement teams that defended the capitol that day. and the lawmakers inside, from the rioters who violently stormed the building. january six 2021 following the trump rally. joining us now, former capitol police officer, harry dunn, who is author of the book standing my ground. former police officer, michael fanone. his of the book is titled, hold the line. and police officer, gonell, he is the author of the book american shield. available now in both english and spanish. joining us now, thank you for being with us. three gentlemen, three heroes that we have gotten to know well over the last three years. and officer dunn, i will start with you and just get your
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reflections of where we are three years on now. this day, three years ago, you thought you had not routine. you had a big rally and a big group of people there. but you never could have anticipated what is going to happen in your life. it's so different since then. what are you feeling as you we approach this anniversary? >> good morning willie, good morning guys. good to see you all. good to be here with everybody. man, i never anticipated that my career would take the turn that it has now. and that i am in the space that i am now. i never thought that i would be on a morning show with the title, former capitol police officer attached to it. but, you know i, it's a little heartbreaking a little bit. one, for suffrage, personal reasons but also for the direction that our country is headed in. you never thought that, like we said, we thought it was a normal protests that we had dealt with hundreds of times, thousands of times at the
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capitol. people expressing their first amendment right, we never thought, earlier you said when we debate this insurrection, the definition of an insurrection is a violent uprising against the u.s. government, or the government and that is exactly what happened that day. so it's important for all of us and i am glad that my fellow hugs officers are here with me. and pushing back against that narrative that a lot of people on the right are trying to rewrite. a race, or just completely whitewash it. >> so officer phenone, it's obviously shocking to a lot of, us for a lot of us that agree that the last majority agrees that generally six was a terrible day and believe what we saw in our eyes that day. in person for many people who are on television but also this narrative that has taken hold in certain corners among trump supporters in particular, that it actually was not what we saw that day. that is the one side of it. the other side as you have more than 1200 people arrested ahead
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of the proud boys and oath keepers going to jail for a very long time. more convictions to come. prosecutors say they're only about halfway done with the people they want to find. so how do you feel three years on after january six, 2021? >> well, when you mention all those investigations. the department of justice, undertaking, and prosecuting more than 1200 americans for their actions on january the 6th. states now starting to debate and make an effort to remove donald trump from the ballot. all of those things i think are a good start de-and necessary. i don't want to put too much stalk into anyone institution. i think it is an all hands on deck effort to make sure that donald trump does not assume the presidency in 2024. we all know what that is going to look like, he has told us as much.
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but i also, i've got to point out some of the disappointments that i have had over the past three years. and that is, where is the outrage on behalf of the current administration? i give credit, joe biden has given some fiery speeches with regards to maga, and its effort to overturn free and fair election. but that is something that this country needs to hear every single day, specifically younger people, young voters. when i go out and talk to them, they seem completely disillusioned with the political process and i think a lot of the problems that president biden is dealing with now, the image problems, stem from being too soft. i feel like biden can be outraged, he can express anger without coming across as
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unhinged. like donald trump. and i would like to see him fight for our democracy with the same tenacity that donald trump fights to destroy it. >> you may hear some of that from the president today in valley forge, pennsylvania, as he kind of launches that side of the campaign is this idea of defending the democracy. sergeant, obviously we talked to many times. always grateful for your time talking about the injuries you suffered that day, how it changed the course of your career, effectively forced to you out of your job because of what happened to you that they, what are your reflections three years after january the 6th? >> three years, thank you for having me on your show, three years ago was when i was doing my normal job and unfortunately the tragic day ended my career due to the injuries that i sustained both physical and mental as well. right now i am focused on myself and my family, i have
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been able to overcome a lot of the adversities that came about with the physical therapy and whatnot. it's, having that separation and time away from the capital and dealing with protecting the same people who are now saying that nothing happened on january 6th, allowed me to heal. and one issue that i do have is with the newspaper of the house. he claims to be on the side of law enforcement officers, he claimed to be the party of the law in order, and then a couple of weeks ago he said in the same sentence, we won transparency, and blurring out the faces of the rioters, the same people who were hunting them down, room by room, and injured many of my colleagues
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including most who are here so they are not the party of rural law. and it's not just for political winds and they're leaning on it the way they say they do. and that reflects on the record. >> gonell, and fanone, i have questions for both of you. josh sergeant you have driven to the courthouse in d.c. to testify at trials, for victim impact statements, to show support for other officers who were victims, there are like 1200 cases now, you've been at 20 sentencings at least including four cases where defendants were convicted of violently assaulting you. there are many who are serving time for crimes committed during this insurrection, violent climbs, and yet former
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president donald trump labeled them as hostages in a speech recently, i would like to hear from both of you, just what your reaction is to that? and gonell, how about you go first? >> as i was mentioning, these are the people that say that they are pro law enforcement and in support of peace, i was assaulted by more than 40 people on january the 6th, you know it's recorded and it's on video and it's on pictures so those are the ones that i mainly go to the courts to give my statement and also to testify right before christmas, one guy who, one writer who assaulted me entered my hand. he tried to use this way the judge pretending that he did not assault me when it was clearly on video. these are violent people whether they were violent before january 6th i do not
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care. whether they were good people or not. they did it on january 6th. they show made who they were. and that's the reason why i go to the court, to hold them accountable because whenever they get in front of the judge and claim or asked for leniency because they have a family, because they have a kid, because they are too old, because they are too frail, because they have beat easy. because they're a former member of the military, a veteran like myself, well they should've thought about those things before they committed those crimes, before they assaulted me and my colleague's. i had the same oath that they did and that did not make me remove myself from doing my duty and my job on january the 6th and that is one of the reasons why i continue to go to court and hold those people accountable and i have a couple of trial cases that i will be,
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in the coming months, i will be in court as well doing those things. >> michael, your take on former president trump calling these criminals convicted criminals, hostages? >> it makes perfect sense to me, the individuals that stormed the capitol on january the 6th attacked law enforcement in an effort to stop the certification of the election, those people, that's donald trump's core group of supporters. i don't know whether or not he actually believes that they are hostages or even that he cares for them outside of the fact that he now has them vote for him if he says things like that. it comes back to the fact that there is support for donald trump is based on lies, and so donald trump has to continue to perpetuate those lies in order to maintain that level of support. >> for a.
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>> another thing is if he uses those connotations, and calls them hostages, tourists, peaceful protesters. if there are those things, when does that make us the police officers? are we sequesters, are we hostage takers? we were the ones defending the capitol on january the 6th, not the other way around. and he's only accusing all the people in making those assumptions because he had never done any sacrifice for anyone else but himself. coming up! the top democrat standing in the way of the republican push to impeach president biden. the ranking member of the house oversight committee. congressman raskin is our guest straight ahead on morning joe! rning joe! pet food. it's amazing what real food can do. ( ♪ ♪ )
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against china splendor in theft, and you know what i mean. if biden wins, china will own america! they will own it! first of all, first of all they pay mid-fortune, and so you know why he works with china that he works for china. >> wow, then president donald trump on the campaign trail in 2020 accusing his opponent without evidence of receiving payments from china, but a new report from the house democrats alleges that it was trump's businesses receiving chinese money while trump was in office. so interesting. according to the report of the nearly $8 million paid to trump 's businesses from foreign countries between 2017 and 2019, five and half million dollars came from china. joining us now, one of the authors of that report, ranking members of the house oversight committee democrat congressman jamie raskin of maryland.
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congressman, thank you for joining us this morning and let me just start with some basic civics and understanding of why we have certain rules and regulations in the constitution. what is the risk of a president receiving money from foreign nations. >> well the founders of our constitution's were going to sell out the american national interests simply by receiving money from foreign governments and doing their bidding. and donald trump has fulfilled the worst fears of the founders. seven point $8 million that we're able to document and receipts from foreign nations, china saudi arabia being the two leading countries, have to scratch the surface of what is certainly much broader money coming in, because it was only for a two-year period out of his four-year presidency. it related only to four of
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trump's more than 500 businesses. we are able to get the receipts for the trump tower on fifth avenue, the trump international tower, u.n. plaza in d.c., the trump international hotel in vegas, the trump international hotel, but most of them we still don't have. and we also were only able to look at 20 countries out of 195 this is likely to only be a fraction of what he took. but still, this was absolutely scandalize as would be every other president that we have ever had in american history. the report talks about in one part i read about abraham lincoln who received two elephant tusks that he really light from slam, and during the civil war, he sent them to congress saying, can i keep? these he did what was constitutionally necessary which is, to go to congress. if you're going to keep any kind of payment at all, any kind of gift at all from a foreign government, and
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congress actually said no, you have to turn those over to the department of the interior, which he probably did. donald trump has in the reverse. it is a moneymaking operation from the beginning, and we are just starting to understand the millions of millions of dollars that he collected from governments. he said, i just anticipate one of direction because of the trump families out there saying that he did not take his salary for, hundred dollars a year. that is all that you are allowed to take. they set up a system, and it's in the constitution, but the only thing that the president can take his salary from americans, and so you are not being bankrolled by saudi monarchs and by chinese communist we are kratz bureaucrats. >> and as you said, in the constitution, profits the president from accepting money payments or gifts of any kind whatsoever from foreign governments. so what is the consequence? so what is the consequence
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well here is the problem. they have sandbagged us for seven years. this report is the culmination of seven years effort that began with my late beloved colleague elijah cummings, who recognize the danger immediately when donald trump refused to divest himself of the businesses that he had when he came into office. they knew it would be a problem. we have to go all the way in the supreme court. we finally got information and september of 2022, but the moment that chairman comer became chairman of the oversight committee, he told trump's lawyers to tell mazars, do not worry about, it you do not have to turn over any more information to the committee, which is why we just have this snapshot. but clearly what needs to happen is -- if we're going to be dealing potentially with presidents like donald trump ever again, and let's hope not, is we need a mandatory reporting regime where if you get any money from any foreign government from any kind whatsoever as you quoted from the constitution, and you must immediately report it to
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the congress of the night states and then we need an internal mechanism within congress where it is heard within ten days or two weeks it goes to the floor of the house, it goes to the floor of the senate and congress votes. we also need penalties for president to think that they are just going to be able to pocket the millions of dollars from the princes and kings when dictators of the world and not tell anybody of it, and then just talk about it later in court. we need public officials who are going to be faithful to the constitutional design. >> coming up, we will talk to a data expert hired by the trump campaign in 2020 to uncover voter fraud. a sense that the former president lied after his investigation found the election was not stolen. that is next on morning joe: weekend. joe: weekend.
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fact, data expert can block in his firm simpatico software systems were hired by the trump campaign investigate allegations of voter fraud. ken now has a new piece titled, trump paid me to find voter fraud, then he lied after i found 2020 election was not stolen. his book titled disproven will be released in march. can, good morning. i do want to read a bit of your piece where you, right quote, we vote anonymously with good reason. no candidate can credibly claim that it was carted to their opponent, unless the person cast a vote tells us. this means that a candidate trying to usvor fraud as the reason to change and election result cannot show that the fraud cause the election loss. there is no doubt that voter fraud can animate people, but it is one thing to provide a rallying point for supporters, and quite another to drag our election infrastructure and legal system into a foundation this set of false. so ken, let's go back to the
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days after november of 2020 after the election and explain for our viewers if you could the circumstances under which you are hired by whom and then ultimately what you found in your investigation? oh >> absolutely, and good morning. i was hired by lawyers attached to the trump campaign initially to look for voter fraud on behalf of the campaign. but many people do not know is that there were more than one camp of lawyers attached to the campaign. i was reporting to a kelly -- fairly careful group of lawyers who want to conduct proper due diligence ahead of filing court cases and my job initially was to look for voter fraud, look for deceased voters, look for duplicate voters. that sort of thing, and my mission changed over time because they realize that i had a lot of capabilities i could bring to the table, they started running a whole bunch of claims that others brought to the touch of the campaign.
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they asked me to determine whether or not those claims were true, and every single claim that i looked at i was able to prove that they were false claims and not true. >> so we're talking about dead voters was one thing, mail-in ballots for something that donald trump was crying about right after the election, he didn't get that system. all of a sudden, what were the specific claims the lawyers were making? >> there are about 15 of. then were little bit head of what the book comes out. i will hold this back a little bit, and i can tell you that some of the claims were really bonkers. they were wild claims. they were easy to prove that they were true, that they were false, and there are other claims that relied on complex mathematical theories. that took a little bit longer to figure out. and we show you the food to parties claims for that they just did not apply and they were not true. >> so ken, i'm assuming that
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when your company, when they take on a client, they do work for them to stay private. that is part of the deal probably, and part of making sure that you remain respected in the field. and so i guess my question is what prompted you to completely on earth everything that you did for the former president? everything that you did for the former presi dent when i realize that that italian work was going to become public no matter what, it was disclosed to the january six committee that my company had done the work, i have been subpoenaed by jack smith, i have been subpoenaed by fani willis in fulton county, georgia, and ultimately i don't have an nda attached to any of the work that i did, which makes it possible for me to freely talk about my work now. >> so ken, we are obviously in a election year again, and just as someone who's an expert on these matters, talk to the viewers here about the sense of
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confidence that they should have that the votes this coming fall will be counted freely and fairly, and that there would not be much fraud, or do you think there is reason to worry? >> that is a complicated question. we have an imperfect election infrastructure. it can be improved in a great many ways, but the necessary improvements that we need to make are not or tonsil from anything that we've seen so far for massive fraud that can change the outcome of an election. so it is a nuanced answer that i give you, and when i ask everybody who's paying attention and has worries or believes that the election was stolen is that you have to take a step back, and you have to rely on facts, and you cannot convict somebody this hearsay. you cannot change the course of election because you think something that might have happened. you have to have ironclad proof that it has happened, and that
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proof is utterly lacking from all of the claims that i've looked at attached to the 2020 election. >> so ken, is it fair to say that the summary of your findings was clear to the trump campaign's lawyers and that donald trump himself knew based on your findings that the 2020 election was not stolen? >> i communicated my findings, all of them, the lawyer that i reported to at the trump campaign. that lawyer told the january six committee that he took the totality of my findings to mark meadows, communicates mark meadows, and mark meadows accepted those findings as true, and in response to those findings, said i think there's no there there are, and he was referring to the florida fought claims. mark meadows, it was reported in the last couple of months, back in april of may of last year, took those findings to the oval office. so i believe that, yes my findings were committed to the
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oval office. >> and yet mark meadows will look for the ride as well. we should point out that ken's findings, some patios findings have also been subpoenaed by jack smith and fani willis down in fulton county. we look forward to your book on sale in march it's titled disproven, mind by a surge for voter fraud in the trump campaign. the data that shows why he loss and how we can improve our elections. ken, thanks so much. coming up next, republican presidential candidate chris christie join the conversation live in our studio. demonic to cover the next republican primary debate. we will ask what he plans to do instead, in much more morning joe is coming right back. ght back but i didn't wait. they told their doctors. and found out they had... atrial fibrillation. a condition which makes it about five times more likely to have a stroke. if you have one or more of these symptoms irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue or lightheadedness, contact your doctor.
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the republican debate that is taking place just 12 days before the iowa caucus will feature only two candidates. cnn announced florida governor ron desantis and former u.s. ambassador nikki haley and former president trump made the cut, but trump is going to skip the debate of course, opting instead to buy dissipate and a town hall with fox news the same evening. willie? >> joining us now in the studio, publican presidential candidate former governor the great state new jersey chris christie. governor, good to see. you >> get to see, you. happy new year >> you miss the polling threshold on the debate stage for next week. when your plans for that? night >> i, off i haven't spent one day or $1 in iowa, and so the fact that he did make the polling for that is not something i was ever trying to do in iowa. so that's fine, the key will be at the debate that night, and given the fact that donald trump is not going to do a town hall on fox news, i don't know
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who's going to be watching nikki antron in that debate. but i hope some people are, because i think they will get a real sense of the fact that the two of them are living in an alternate universe. they will debate each other as if the process is between two of them. and my guess is that either one of them would spend five minutes bringing donald trump because they're both playing for 2028 or a vice presidential nomination in nikki's case from donald trump. and so i don't think it will be worth watching. >> and so you've heard all this talk within the republican party that needs to be a two person race. if you really want to take out donald trump, it has to be one of you against donald trump, making the case against him. one of your old friends, governor crispy of new hampshire, a place where you put a lot of time and effort, said he should get out the race in the gray for nikki haley in his estimation. here's what the governor said. >> chris christie is a friend, but his race is an absolute
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dead end. he's going to say anything you can. this is a two person race, it's between trump and nikki haley, and everyone understands that. chris is only talking about trump, that's it. he's got a one-man show, and i know he says he will stay in the race to speak the truth about trump, but that translating to votes in the primary is very different thing. >> so when you say to your good friend governor sununu. >> that's what you know in politics, that's what's gonna nike in the back. he's my good friend, you know? i remember when chris used to care about donald trump. he is a guy who came i think to the gridiron club and said that trump belonged until institution. now he is saying that he would vote for him if he were the nominee. and he is now supporting a candidate who said that he was the right president at the right time, and that she would pardon him before any evidence presented to a court or a jury. look, i believe that those folks are, right really, like you mentioned in your question, that someone's got to go one-on-one against trump, but they actually have to be against trump. the problem for nikki haley's,
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everything that she talks about, she doesn't want to offend anybody. so her whole campaign has been about not offending anybody. i heard new hampshire radio when talking about the slavery civil war question she was asked, and now her excuse, as i was tired and a little off my game. how that means that she did not have the script that your staff was put in front of her to be able to read it. we've had that before in the white house. and the fact is that she should stand up that if your post donald trump, you are opposed to donald trump. and when he came to a media event in washington d.c. and called him if in crazy, i don't know, i've never said that, and it's ever since christmas started to support nikki, he decided to adopt her offend no
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president of ukraine petro poroshenko. president, thank you for joining us again this morning. what more can you tell us about the last three days in the capital city of kyiv, and kharkiv, and in other cities across ukraine who have come under area assault from russia. what does it look like there? >> well they're celebrating the christmas in new year, and we ukrainians are standing in our
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shelter. i can tell you my personal impression when it was the missiles can it near my house. this is exactly like on the front line, and i see with my own eyes the cruise missile and blast of the [inaudible] with distance maybe one and a half kilometers from the house. and this is the disaster, because only during yesterday's attack in kyiv we have 31 victims in civilians. with that situation altogether, if we take the cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and the [inaudible] [laughs] drone since the 29th of december, it was 500 attacks from ukraine. this is just an understanding and reminding how russia is
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terrorizing the world. i think that it should start to be a wake up call for the whole western countries that we need to end decisively, we need to call the security council, we need to call the council in the european union. we need to call the council of nato, ukraine, and we should demonstrate to russia that we never accept these types of things, and we have a scenario that answer on this disastrous attack. but at the same time, ukraine surprise the world with our ability of our defense too -- and i want to use this opportunity to thank you, thank you for the [inaudible] missile you delivered to ukraine, thanks to the irc,
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which europe and data delivered, thank you for saving life of ukrainian. you destroy russian ability to attack free world and democracy. >> mr. poroshenko, we're looking at scenes of ukraine from the death and violence that comes from the skies, from drones, from bombings, from missiles, and yet this remains a ground war, a big ground war between ukraine and russia. and so my question to you is, vladimir putin continues to send hundreds of thousands of young soldiers and old soldiers to their deaths in ukraine, and the ukrainians fight fiercely as they will through the remaining winter months, but at some point, ukraine's population compared to russia is going to leave you with a dwindling supply of aged soldiers to recruit and serve. does this concern you, this population difference in terms
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of the armies? >> definitely this is a concern. this is not a mathematical statistic. every single week, i am on the front line. every single week, i do my best to deliver their artillery, the uav drones, the different [inaudible] for all together more than 110 million euros which we do only fort [inaudible] . this is the life of all ukrainians. we are fighting for our own lives, we are fighting for our own countries, we are fighting for the freedom, we are fighting for democracy, and this is more than about ukraine. this is about the freedom and democracy on the whole world because we need to stop russia. ahead on morning joe. a new year means a new chance for self improvement. the atlantic has interactive serious to help you better yourself in 24.
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columnist for the atlantic's, and the harvard business school professor. arthur, great to see. you >> nice to see you too. >> this is important stuff, because i think when we fall resolutions and to take your first tip to fall into the clichés. i will get some more exercise, and you say be more clear, the more specific in what you want to do. >> and also peyton thanks to life. the reasons why people don't stick their resolutions, most people give up usually within the first three weeks, it doesn't last very long at all, it is because the cost of confident benefits. i think you are focusing on really not what you want the most in your life. you have to think about what will really bring you the latest well-being, and we have tons of research on this. i'm a social scientist, it's what i said, it i teach this class at harvard. it was down before things. faith, family, friends, in work, and work that serves other people. i don't need my faith. i transcended sense of life in family life means different things to different people. real friends, not virtual friends, not deal friends.
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and work where you really feel like you're creating value and people need you and those are the things to be doubling triple down on, and that is what resolution should be about. you do, that you will make it through the year and you will be better. >> thank you have to remind yourself of over the course of the year. this is actually what's important, you have to send yourself a little bit. and your second tip, we desperately need here. i'm not sure it is possible. press snooze, which is get more sleep. 16, what is it, 17 years we've been doing the show? >> you have to go to bed earlier. >> oh my gosh! >> that is the answer, that is the thing. >> but the whole point that science has been catching up with what common sense and grandma has been telling us all along, is that sleep is one of the great secrets to living happier better life, and most people don't have a very good hygiene about. at the number one problem for younr built by the way, a lot of young adults watch this great show, what is the problem is that they're basically rebelling against themselves. they are procrastinating into their own sleep as kind of an act of rebellion against their
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own childhoods as, like moms not, here go to bed. it is important. >> i remember feeling that way when i got to college. i don't have to go to sleep. central to this is the phone, which people put it next to their bed, it's their alarm, all of those things, and you inevitably before bed, which are not supposed to, do you end up scrolling right until you close your eyes. >> don't do that. get an alarm clock, five bucks on amazon. really easy, old school. read about, turn off the light, go to bed. >> arthur, one of your promises, faith, family, friends, faith obviously, then we obviously, friends. if you're given the gift of health, you live longer, okay? what happens to the friends aspect when your friends begin to die. people leave known for 50, 60 years. >> one of the things that's really important we remember is that we shouldn't have friends that are all the same age. when you young, get more old friends. when you're old, get more young friends. one of the best way speed have
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friends all the way to a debt that is people who are decades in more than you are, is the important thing. by the, way when your twenties, you have friends who are in their 60s because they're interesting people involved in a lot from the. everybody is marching through first grade second grade they're great and by the time you're 60 there are 60 and some big problems, and it's also boring. >> that is good advice, because you refresh a little bit. you need people over the course of your life. >> it brings out something new in. exactly right. look, i turned 60 this year, and i've had more and more friends were younger than i am. >> it keeps you in the. culture >> it keeps me in the culture, but by the way, it gives me an opportunity to talk to them about things really matter. people ask me, what did you wish you knew when you're 20 what you knew at 60? that's what i do for a living, teaching on harvard unhappiness, but it's great. and that is way to solve the problem. >> speaking of happiness, your tip from yesterday, january 3rd was tenure envy, which you call what do you mean by? that >> we are evolved to be
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envious, because we have a natural sense of hierarchy. that is how we work in teams, that is how we work and tribes et cetera. you have to know your place. the result is that you always kind of want to rise through the hierarchy. everybody does this. but when we are consuming ourselves with this type of malignancy of envy, it will destroy our sense of happiness. the whole important point is to turn from envy to admiration. it's a look at people who are doing something really good and then admired them, and to be open about that admiration. and you can turn that in the into something that is really positive in a heartbeat. >> i had a friend, once he has not passed away, getting back to death. >> a theme here. >> who once said to me that he would rather get in the ring with mike tyson then get in the ring with envy. >> yeah, absolutely, and we will wipe your butt every single time. there's always somebody's got more than, you and if you are comparing your own self-worth somebody on some weird dimension like money or prestige or instagram followers, how ridiculous?
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you're just going to be >> the whole point. look for people of greater virtue than you, and somebody three really aspire to as a person, and admire that. that will eat up the indy, and you will get happier in a heartbeat. >> maybe easier for us to do with their kids. have two teenagers who are born into the social media universe that you are talking about, which is frankly predicated on and the as you go through it. >> yeah, we get addicted to that in the, and that indeed will start to consume, us but it also keeps us addicted actually looking at the phone as part of the algorithm of social media. that is one of the reasons that social media consumption is one of the -- overconsumption of social media is one of the great interests of unhappiness in our culture today, and that is one of the things with young people that i end up talking about more than any other. thank >> that is for us this morning, we're back live on monday morning at 6 am eastern, have a great rest of your weekend. weekend. this
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