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politicsnation. tonight's lead, a solemn anniversary. ♪ ♪ ♪ it has been four years to the day since and ceramicists stormed the u.s. capitol in former president donald trump's name. and despite the horrors of that day, very little has changed in our politics. capital rioters are still being brought to justice three years later. just this morning, three january 6th fugitives were arrested by the fbi in florida. and with just days before our first presidential nominating contest of this election year, the u.s. supreme court will

soon decide whether colorado and other states can legally bar trump from the appellate over his january 6th conduct. though that conduct hasn't stopped much of the republican party from circling around trump as your choice for president. a reality that president biden, in his first campaign event of 2024 last night, cost a historic, existential threat to our union. >> democracies still americas secret calls, the most urgent question of our time. donald trump's campaign is about him, not america. not you. donald trump's campaign is obsessed with the past, not the future. he's willing to sacrifice our democracy, put himself in power. >> and a moment, i'll talk to one of the house committee members who investigated the

events of january 6th for two years. but even beyond washington, the right-wing forces trump has emboldened our hostile as ever to social progress. that hostility on display this week in the forest resignation of harvard president claudine gay and in part by hid fund manager blackmon, who i pick it this week as head of national action network. the president of historically black morehouse college joins me later to discuss the impact of gay's alistair and we'll at mains for black educators everywhere. but we begin tonight with a lasting impacts of january 6th. joining me now, congresswoman zoe lofgren. a democrat of california. she served on the house select committee investigating the

events of january 6th. happy new year, first of all, congresswoman. and thank you for joining us tonight on the three year anniversary of january 6th. although shot time has passed, we are still hearing about new details and new arrests and the man at the center of it all former president donald trump seems poised to win his first nominating contest of 2024 cycle, and just over a week. what are your thoughts about all of this tonight? >> well, reverend, i've thought a lot today about the events of four years ago. i've been reaching out to some of the police officers who were injured defending me, as well as the constitution. and contemplating that trump, who the committee found organized this entire effort to overturn the constitution, summoned the mob and hoped that

the mob would, through violence, keep him in power. he is apparently the front runner, as the republican nominee. and that so many of my colleagues and trump's followers are now trying to spin that riot never happened. that it was somehow a peaceful exercise of free speech. it's absurd. all you need to do is look at what happened, the videos. but we've got a very serious propaganda problem in this country. and i saw on another network, a former trump follower describe the trump movement as a cult. and i think there may be some truth to that. >> the supreme court will take a prompt colorado bellowed case on february 8th. the justices will have to decide whether the state has thlegal right to borrow the

former president due to his role in january 6th. which could impact other states, making similar efforts, including maine, which will be talking about later in the program. you know that details of that day as well as anyone. what are your thoughts on this case? >> i think there are multiple aspects to the case. clearly, trump did engage an insurrection. this entire thing was a multifaceted effort to overturn the constitution. and, in the, and using violence. but that is a separate question, in some ways, then what the court has to consider. the 14th amendment is clear. that officers of the united states and clearly the presidency is one of those, cannot be held by insurrectionists. what is unsaid, and which congress has never dealt with, is who makes that judgment and

how is it implemented? there are other qualifications to being president. you have to be at least 45. you have to be a natural born citizen. those are easy questions to resolve. participation and insurrection is a disqualification that involves the exercise of judgment. and the court may find that congress needed to set some standards for reaching that conclusion. and some process for going so. i don't know what they're going to decide. i do know this. that trump was involved and was at the center of the effort to overturn the government. and that is insurrection, in my book. d that is insurrecti>> presidens first campaign event of the new york yesterday and pennsylvania, making his case for reelection. casting a second trump presidency as an ecological threat to our nation. today, vice president kamala

harris was in south carolina, picking up where the president left off last night. take a listen. >> they used brutal force and the air to try and overturn the results of a free and fair election. on that day, we saw. violence, chaos, and lawlessness. but some so-called leaders still try to mislead and gaslight by claiming it was a peaceful protest. can you imagine? like we weren't watching? >> congresswoman, despite the white house warnings this weekend, several polls have shown president biden lacking behind donald trump in case states, ahead of a likely november rematch. some democrats have complained that the biden harris campaign

has spent too much time promoting the botna conemaugh. do you agree now is the time for the campaign to start focusing on trump and maga? >> i don't know, i'm not in charge of the biden campaign. but one thing i did learn, in the january 6th investigation, is that when trump says something, hit mains to do it. it's not just words, it's his intent. and here is what he said. he said, his words not mine, that he intends to terminate parts of the constitution. he has said that he intends to eliminate the civil service and replace it with political appointees who will do whatever he wants. he has said that he intends to have the department of justice go after his political enemies. if that isn't an authoritarian government, i don't know what would be.

and he clearly intends to have that kind of change in our democracy. i think it's very serious. i think voters have to make up their own minds about what's the most important issue. but i'll say. this if we don't have our democracy, we will not have the tools to address any of the other challenges that we face. >> all right, thank you congresswoman zoe lofgren. we are just not days away from the iowa caucuses. and today the top republican presidential candidate are in the state, making their final pitches to get voters to turn out for the first in the nation's nominating contest. joining me now, to political religious, kurt bardella, a democrat and noelle nikpour, of republican. donald trump, noelle, donald trump has a strong lead heading

into the iowa caucus as he campaigns and i will on the third anniversary of january 6th. while in the state, he has had some memorable speeches, including one on friday where he told iowans to, quote, get over it, and quote, after a deadly school shooting in perry, iowa. and today, he had this today. >> the civil war was so fascinating, so horrible, so horrible. bucks are fascinating. i don't know, i'm so attracted to it. so many mistakes were made. this is something that could have been negotiated. for oldest people to die, and they thought viciously. and i think abraham lincoln, of course, if he negotiated it, you probably wouldn't even abraham lincoln was. >> just negotiate the civil war. what's your reaction to what

he's saying on the campaign trail. will this turn voters off? >> first of all, reverend al, if upper consultant for president trump on the campaign trail, i would have absolutely been appalled at even getting into that subject. there really is not a reason to get into that subject while his campaigning in iowa. he's already got a 50 point lead. there is no reason to even bring that up. and the issue before that, when he said we need to get over, it was at the school shooting. it was extremely insensitive as well. he should have kept what the original statement by saying that he sends his condolences to the families and to the school people. without adding, to get over it. and he also, it would have been a fantastic point for him to use that issue, by saying we need to protect our schools. and this is just another

example of, you know, what's going on in america and how we need to protect those schools and the students and the teachers. but instead, he said, let's get over it. if i were advising him, i would have absolutely edited all these things, all these comments. it's just unnecessary, reverend al. >> kurt, nikki haley has had her own civil war controversy recently. she was campaigning today with new hampshire governor chris sununu in north levity, iowa. on thursday, haley try to clean up comments she made that seemed to downplay the role slavery played in the civil war. take a listen to what she had to say. >> if you grow up in south carolina, literally, and second and third grade, you learn about slavery. you grow up and you have -- i had black friends growing up. it is a very talked about thing. >> some of my best friends are

black. kurt, what are your thoughts? do you think this is a controversy that will linger in the minds of republican primary voters? >> unfortunately, rev, it won't. and i'll tell you why. the one place where it's acceptable in the united states of america to debate even the merits of slavery is in that republican party. republican primary voters don't care about racism. they don't care about the washing of history. these are the same republican voters who rewarded extreme candidates who invented that controversial issue of critical race theory. the same republican voters who are okay with banning books that mentioned things like race and slavery. so there is not going to be a political price it's going to be paid by any republican whether it's donald trump or nikki haley, when it comes to republican primary voters. this is also iowa, the same state that gave us the winners of michele bachmann and rick's interim, the past republican presidential primaries. they're not exactly known for being a political epithet

windmills we should be looking at for how things are ultimately going to. >> noelle, this iowa caucus is make or break moments for ron desantis. he just made a stop in cedar rapids, iowa. this comes as his advisors say he will need at least a second place finish in that state because of poor showing there would likely to win his bid. now, desantis was once believed to be the candidate to take down donald trump. is it possible his campaign could be in its final days, if he fails to meet expectations in iowa? >> one thing is going to be certain. if he fails to meet expectations with the governor's endorsement in iowa, it's going to hurt him on the fund-raisers level. because if you are looking at giving a check to a candidate who's been endorsed, and he's doing all he can do, and he's slipping in the polls, if he

doesn't win iowa, if he doesn't go number one, he's probably not going to win hampshire because the polls are not showing he can win new hampshire. so if he doesn't at least stick in iowa, he's going to have other problems, which is going to pay that money trouble. he's going to have a problem attract donors. so to your point, i think that things are not looking good for him in the race because, if you can hold that one state, the writing is on the wall for finances. and everybody knows you need a lot of money to keep a campaign going. it's going to be very hard to keep his message out and other states, if he doesn't have the funding. >> kurt, now let's talk for that ramaswamy. who became the first presidential candidate to complete a full grassley tour and all 19 on iowa counties twice in less than a year. today he was in washington county. meanwhile, he had a campaign event this week. he talented and endorsement by

a disgraced former congressman, steve king, who lost his election after defending what nationalism. the washingt pt reports ramaswamy is increasingly embracing fringe theories and far-right claims in iowa. this as he also is pushing for english only ballots, which violates the voting rights act in many cases. what do you make of vivek's strategy to play to the alt-right, all in for trump's base? >> it's very clear to me his strategy isn't to actually win the primaries. since he's not gonna to be able to do that. it's to be the equivalent of the shock jock on that republican primary circuit. he sees these elections as opportunities to just get his name out there, to create controversy, to serve the pot, to try to animate and inside what he kohl's progressive

liberals. this is nothing more that apparent building exercise. he doesn't expect to win everything -- but he's going to use the state peeping afforded to talk to his absolute best to campaign to be donald trump's vice president. to be in donald trump's administration, if he were to win. these stops are auditions for him. that's what's really going on here. >> kurt bardella and noelle nikpour, thank you both for being with us. coming up, making america great again remains gaslighting the nation and allowing an autocracy, that shia pay is on the right track. i'll explain how we can to rail trump's train to tyranny, up next in this weeks gotcha. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? rev, of argue that he. some of the stories we're watching for you. breaking news first. this evening, a u.s. official confirming to nbc news pentagon did not inform senior officials in the white house national

security council of defense secretary lloyd austin's hospitalization until thursday. three days after austin arrived at walter reed medical center, austin was hospitalized on monday. after complications from an elective procedure. federal every administration has grown more than 170 boeing 737 max 9 airplanes for inspections. this is a day after a panel blew out in the middle of a alaska airlines flight. alaska airlines has inspected over a quarter of its boeing 737 max 9 fleet, the airline saying this afternoon. the national transportation board will be investigating this. 45 million americans in the northeast are on alert for east coast first major storm of the year. snow, wind, and freezing rain has been moving up the mid-atlantic over most of the day and is currently on its way to new england. be warned. more politicsnation with reverend al sharpton, right after this break. but don't forget this season 's updated covid-19 shot too.

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third anniversary of january 6th. on friday, president biden marked the milestone with a speech condemning that deadly riot at the capitol and for president trump's role in it. biden's position on what happened has not wavered, but republican opinions about january 6th have changed quite a bit. take a listen. >> when it comes to accountability, the president needs to understand that his actions were the problem not the solution. they're prosecuting him for a cavity around january 6th. he didn't break into the capitol, he gave a thorough speech, but he's not the first guy to ever do that. >> january 6th was a tough day. and honestly, the actions the president had since election day or not his finest. and for me, a troubles me greatly because i'm really

proud of the successes of the trump administration. what's in the best interest of the country would be to pardon him so that we can move on as a country and no longer talk about him. >> and why have ever supported any type of lawlessness or anything like that. it was not an insurrection. these are people that were there to attend a rally and then they were there to protest. it evolved, and it evolved into a riot. >> with republican politicians going to great lengths to minimize what happened on january 6th, it 2021, is not surprising many gop voters who have shifted as well. a new washington post university of maryland poll found republicans are now less likely to believe participants in this election -- insurrection or violence then the war in 2021. they're also more reluctant to hold president trump

responsible for january 6th, and more likely to believe the big lie that joe biden's election was illegitimate. it didn't have to be this way. republicans could have joined in beijing trump and barring him from holding office while the shock of the insurrection was still fresh. when trump was criminally indicted for election interference earlier this year, they had another opportunity to leave his faith to a jury of his peers. instead, republicans have stood by their man through an insurrection and its aftermath. and now, in a matter of days, they will pick up and kick off a primary season in which trump appear is poised to point that nomination by a landslide. republicans claim to be the party of national security and law and order. but in the case of january 6th, they would rather turn a blind eye to what happened then

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politicsnation. this weekend, in my capacity as head of the national action of, arc i picketed outside the new york officers of hedge fund manager bill ackerman. one of the leaders of the successful push to force harvard university president claudine gay to resign. gay came under fire for her testimony before congress on campus antisemitism. but many of her harshest critics are also motivated by a

deep seated opposition to diversity programs in higher education and beyond. to start -- to stop what is called dei. joining us now david thomas is, president of morehouse college. thank you for joining us tonight, dr. thomas. tonight, president johnson -- claudine gay's resignation this week came after weeks of a pressure campaign, largely from the right. in addition to criticisms we mentioned. there were false allegations of plagiarism brought by a conservative journalist. what are your thoughts on what happened? >> my thoughts on what happened is that you had a moment where a legitimate concern about antisemitism at harvard was hijacked by individuals with an

agenda that essentially is defined by being anti-diversity, anti-equity, anti-inclusion. and who looked at presidents gay as a symbol of those things that they were anti-and as christopher ruffo has said in an interview, they essentially triangulated that combination of capturing the media never, bringing financial pressure, and capturing, creating the political echo chamber of and diversity, and equity and inclusion political group to target her and ultimately create the conditions we're

shape decided she could no longer effectively laid the institution. >> one of the things that got me and that national action network involved, and other groups, is the clear inference, probably not even inference, but explicit that she was a dei choice. like she wasn't qualified to pay that president of harvard. and both before and since the supreme court decision overturning college affirmative action, i've contended th it wouldn't stop there. and the new york times is reporting today that house icans are planning to expand their inquiry into campus dei efforts, purportedly to protect jewish students from present antisemitism at ivy league and some private universities. what do you make of this? >> again, the interesting thing about, since dr. gay's

resignation, we haven't heard any talk about how that's going to help improve the conditions around antisemitism. we've heard no talk about what colleges or universities should be doing to create a better environment for jewish students. to address issues of antisemitism. we've heard nothing about that. and we've heard a lot of anti dei talk. so to me, you know, those who have raised legitimate issues are essentially finding themselves, i think, you know, woodenly and unwittingly brought into a cause that's not their cause. and this is entirely orchestrated, and i think you are absolutely right, reverend sharpton, that this effort has

been underway long before we got to october 7th or the testimony before congress with doctor gay and the presidents of m.i.t. and the university of pennsylvania. >> that's where i want to go. because i didn't go to morehouse, i spoke there, thank, you a few times. there were three people that testified. president of m.i.t., president of university of pennsylvania, president of harvard, which was doctor gay. and the only one they are saying was a dei appointed position is doctor gay. so race is explicit there. are you concerned about what gay's resignation and this push from conservatives to take diversity out of higher education means for historically black colleges like morehouse? >> no.

i am not concerned about what it means for historically black colleges like morehouse, except from the vantage point of, i think we're going to see a surge in applications, quite frankly. you know, i think there is some talk that, to the extent that this agenda, on dei, will come at black colleges, it will be through the distortion of who we are. for example, there is a myth out there that we only admit black students. that has never been the case for morehouse college, except during a period when the state of georgia actually would not allow white students to come to morehouse because of segregationist laws. we've always had what students. we have white students today. but there is a mess out there

and that sometimes -- somewhat wrote an article suggesting that was the case for spelman college, our sister of college that is an all women's college. but in terms of, you know, it having some kind of legal effect that will force us to change what we do and the way this affirmative action decision has affected predominantly white selective institutions, i'm actually not concerned. >> but at the same time, and i think i agree with you, my concern for that legal aspects for hbcus, if we're saying affirmative action and dei is removed, is no longer allowed, is illegal, it will be graduating students that because there is no dei would be in the employment market with no guarantees that their promotions will be based on merit, their contracts --

it lowers the options of people that pursue a higher education. and that's what scares me. that made it plain, it was not about gay, it's about dei. we cannot have your students, even from hbcus or ivy league schools in a country where there is no trying to prepare the stark damage that was done and that we can't monitor. that's why -- >> yeah, when you frame it that way, you are absolutely right. our students will walk out into a country that provides the implicit freedoms then you and i had when we can out of college and the late 70s and 80s. and the country was moving in a different direction. so i think that's absolutely

true. but i don't think it will change the work we do here at morehouse college or at other selective historically black colleges and universities. >> all right, thank you so much for being with us, doctor david thomas tonight. coming up, former president trump faces ballot access moves and battles across the country right now. in addition to the colorado case, hated to the supreme court, there is another raging fight in maine. i'll talk to one of the key players, next. i see how far our legacy can go. now on sale at ancestry. we're travelling all across america, talking to people about their hearts. how's the heart? -good. -you sure? i think so. how do you know? let me show you something. put two fingers right on those pads. look at that! that's your heart! that is pretty awesome.

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politicsnation. last night, former president donald trump warned that there will be, quote, big trouble, if the supreme court does not rule in favor of his eligibility for the 2024 primary ballot in colorado. the high court is set to hear the case in february. meanwhile, on tuesday, trump appealed rulings from maine secretary of state that would bar him from that states primary ballot. joining me now is one of the petitioners, who successfully filed to remove trump from the ballot in the pine tree state. former portland mayor, ethan strimling.

mayer, why did you decide to challenge trump's name on the ballot in your state? >> well, reverend, thank you for having us on. thank you for keeping the subject alive here on the third anniversary. the reason i decided to challenge along with two other former republican state senators, i was a former democratic state senator and mayer of portland. we decided to challenge because we believe in the constitution. we have to uphold the constitution. it's the document that guides our country. we can just look aside because one candidate happens to be popular among the maga white supremacists in his party, and we decided to take action. the secretary of state thankfully stepped in, listened to the evidence, had an eight-hour hearing, kept the hearing open for 8 to 5 or 67 days. we had to make a determination that donald trump was and

insurrectionists, is an insurrectionists, and the 14th amendment applies to him. when you look at a black and white like that, you step away from the politics, simply disqualify that he can't run for president. >> you wrote an op-ed yesterday with the main beacon, where you argued that the main secretary state shenna bellows was right to get trump off the ballot,citing the 14th amendment, as you just stated, the constitution's insurrection gloss. bellows says she has received numerous threats since he made the decisions. some have even called swat teams to her homes. have you received any threats? >> i have received some, but nothing like what she received. i was an election official for ten years. you get a lot of nasty comments, et cetera, thankfully, i have not had the threats this time. i have had them and the pass.

it's very unfortunate what is happening. some people in the press often want to create false equivalency's, like both sides out in the extremes get in this place. it's simply not true. there are states where the secretary of state has decided differently than -- those secretary of states did not get any threats from our sides. those judges did not get that that's from our sides. i know that secretary bellows decided that donald trump should not remain on the ballot. the people supporting our effort would not have attacked her the way that they have. it's a very unfortunate thing that is going. on both sides do this the same, this is trump at its worse, and they will nopt losing and accept the truth. >> yesterday, the supreme court announced that they would take up colorado's efforts to keep trump off the primary ballot next month, on february 8th. it's a case very similar to the

one in maine. do you have any thoughts on how you expect that to play out? >> you know, it's interesting, the politics of it make it feel like it's a steep hill to climb, but i tell you what, our lawyers feel like the law is so black and white, the constitution is so clear, the 14th amendment states, if you had taken an oath of office, and you violate that oath of office by committing insurrection against the country, you cannot run for office again. it's a simple as the. obviously, january 63 years ago today was an insurrection. obviously, donald trump was an instigator in it, and to courts of law both agree that he sided with the. -- 230 something members of the house, if we all saw it, we know, it was an insurrection. he instigated that insurrection and incited it. therefore, you cannot run for

president again. if the supreme court steps back from the politics and looks just at the law, just at the constitution, then i feel more optimistic about the possibility. >> before i let you go, what is your response to critics about efforts to remove trump from the ballot. there are some people who oppose the former president, but are worried they will only anger his supporters, and it will lead to more violence like we saw three years ago today on january six. what do you say to that? >> what doesn't anger his supporters? what does not anger him? anytime we go after him and explain how he's lying to the american public, how he's corrupt and as 91 criminal indictments. even when he loses an election, clearly, his people and he pushed back, and they get in the sangrey place. i'll say, look, there's no way that this guy is going to go away gently in the good night. we need to applaud the

constitution and do whatever we can to try to stop this man who violated the constitution, violated his oath of office, from being able to get back into the white house. i don't buy into those arguments. i think we're being naive, if we think that there is something soft waiting at the end of this. >> i am out of time, but i must ask, what are the next steps in this? >> the next steps are, it will go to the superior court here, and that will begin this week. the superior court decides by the 17th, and then we'll go to the state supreme court, so they have two weeks to decide. if it all times out well, it will all be done in our courts, right about the time that the supreme court takes up their oral arguments. >> all right, former mayor ethan strimling, thank you for being with us. before i got a break, i want to let you know about some programming changes coming two weekends here at msnbc, including a new morning show with simone sanders thompson,

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