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and what? what is that? >> it could be a number. it could be rsv. it could be a number of other bacterial infections. a typical ammonia, which is what we had a little bit of a spike in different parts of the country, atypical pneumonia's need to be treated with antibiotics. they're called atypical for a reason. get things checked out. your instinct tells you the most about your health. >> kavita tell, you have been my guidingthis thing when it comes to health for sure. thank you so much, my friend. good to see you. we have a lot more coming up, everybody. you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. all right, back to the breaking news out of capitol hill. senate democratic and house leadership are expected to announce a top line of spending deal later on today according to sources familiar with the negotiations. i want to bring in julia

gesture from capitol hill and senior msnbc political contributor matt dowd as well. julia, if you will, start us off. take us through it. what do we know? >> yasmin, this is the first step in avoiding a government shutdown. it comes 12 days away from that january 19th deadline which had been looming. what this top line number means is that democratic senate leader chuck schumer and house speaker johnson have both agreed on a top line spending number which means that now that they have the steak and get into the nitty-gritty of how all of that money is appropriated. once we hear this number and learn of this later this afternoon, we should be hearing from the appropriators more on how the breakdown is. there's a lot to keep an eye on as we look at what is into this spending deal a number, specifically one of the issues is a 69 billion dollars in non military domestic funding which

house republicans were looking to slash from the budget. obviously, the white house wasn't amenable to that. we will see whether that is protected or not. this is great news for anyone who wanted to avoid a sundown on the 19th but the deal is not sealed yet. separately, you have some republicans who are looking to have a threat of a shutdown with regard to the border negotiations for that supplemental on ukraine and border funding. it could get mixed up in this. it's worth noting that speaker johnson has an indicated he wants to tie these issues together. time will tell if that it stays a separate issue or if we have a couple of rough weeks ahead of us, yasmin. >> joules, real quick, remind us of the deadlines we were looking at here when it came to this spending deal. why? when it came to this deal in early december to avert the initial government shutdown by speaker johnson, we had a couple of dates in mind.

we were coming up on one of those states. within those states where certain appropriations. remind us of those. >> right. so, when speaker johnson was facing these spending deadlines, he decided to do what is kind of a tiered approach. you have won a deadline on january 19th. this top line number is critical for it. it basically creates the spending for the fiscal year which can then be appropriated. secondly, you have a february 2nd deadline. we avoid a shutdown of the deal is reached by that january 19th deadline. they're going to have to revisit a lot ahead of the separate deadline. this is the first piece of the puzzle. it's critical because it was very up in the air as to whether a shutdown would be averted. we are going to keep an eye on that as well as the supplemental negotiations

happening with the border in ukraine. speaker johnson just told cbs news this week that president zelenskyy personally told him that february is the absolute latest that they can wait to get the u.s. funding. these are complicated issues which congress has to face when they come back next week. they will be running full steam ahead to address these and make sure that domestic security and national security and foreign wars which are happening all get the funding that they need and these bills can make it to president biden. >> julia jester for us, thank you. matt, talk us through some of this. you are looking at this potential deal of this number, but they still have to work out the appropriations. they have to figure out how much money goes where. that's not necessarily an easy task especially in this congress. you still have the outlier which julia just walked us through, the spending that they wanted on the deal on ukraine and on israel and on

immigration. you had the far-right republicans essentially wanting to hold the government hostage over immigration. what do you make of what we are hearing so far? >> well, it's a little bit of a cannon. if we decided that we were going to spend $100 but we haven't met the restaurant, we don't know if we can agree upon the type of food that we won -- >> by the, if you ever gone to dinner with me, you know i'm very indecisive when it comes to that stuff. >> we set ourselves up perfect for what is about to happen in this situation. i mean, i think the key element here, i'm glad for the government sake of the country and our budget that this has happened, the real problem will be the house republican caucus. can mike johnson, speaker johnson keep the caucus together to get the votes he needs for something which many members would just as soon see as a shutout in the midst of this? it's good news on the one hand but we still have this open question that we have had all

your sincere publicans to congress. can they come together and reach an agreement? are we going to see several republicans within the next 24 hours announced they are not for any deal with chuck schumer? i think that is the real question mark. my guess is this good news. the stock market, probably tomorrow morning when we wake up, will be up. >> i'm going to ask you to stay right there for a moment. i have a couple more questions when it comes to the 2024 campaign trail. i want to go to ali vitali standing by for us in iowa. normally, we see her on capitol hill. obviously, you know this is breaking a news. talk to me about how you think this is going to play. how do you think it's going to play on the campaign trail? >> i thought i was going to avoid this budget battle after doing all of the ones last year, but here i am. quite frankly, some of the people i would immediately go to to chase the noose are actually standing onstage behind me with ron desantis, congressman chip roy and tom

massie or to budget hawks within that house republican conference. roy especially has been outspoken and even just was in the last 30 or so seconds, speaking about needing to rein in spending specifically when it comes to aiding other countries like ukraine. the fact they have a top line number here is both good and bad news, right? on the good news front, this is frankly the number we have been waiting for the entire time. we've been watching them churned through this appropriations battle even in its early stages last year. the bad news is that once you put numbers on paper this is a house republican conference that loves to look at it and, frankly, rip it apart. that's the thing that i'm looking for first. people like ship roy have been outspoken about the fact that they need the border provisions to look a certain way, which is to say extremely restrictive based on what the house passed earlier last year in order to get people like him on board. when you look at the margins, as thin as they are, i think they are down to like one or

two right now. those are already razor thin margins. they get even slimmer. that makes this job of speaker mike johnson much more difficult. over the course of this event, not only are we talking 2024, but voters here are asking, what about the national debt? what about what we are doing with spending? these congressional lawmakers are out here. it makes it that much easier for us to vote. >> capitol hill hat off, 2024 hat on, although you display both because you're so good at it. >> [laughter] >> just over a week from now, the iowa caucus, who is i at number two? who is fighting for number two at this point behind the former president? >> i think it's really important for us to point out that you don't win by being in second. that has been true this entire primary. that's why the dynamics here are so weird, frankly. this is my third caucus. you can usually get a sense that the positions are changing and people are jockeying for first, second, and third. the conventional wisdom is that there are three tickets out of

iowa. here, it seems at least at this point, if you look at the polls, and the polls overtime, which are what i tend to look at, the trend is that it is trump's to lose. that is how most of the field is acting. i caught up with young voters as well, not iowans, part of the gen z community of people who are running under the republican banner across the country. this is what they told me when i asked them what the party looks like in 2024 and who should lead it. watch. >> well, i'm going to be voting and supporting president trump. the guy from the next generation, he really represents not just gen z, but millennials, which he is, but i think president trump is the future of the republican party for the next few years. >> right now, it's really anyone's game. i'm looking to see what that looks like as time moves forward. >> so, to these folks, the past may be the future at least for the president, yasmin.

someone like florida governor ron desantis is wrapping up this event here just about 20 minutes outside of des moines, iowa. he's one of those trying to change that. >> ali vitali, thank you, my friend. appreciate it. i want to get back to matthew dowd with more on the 2024 politics primary season. some are looking toward november. elise stefanik already said she can't yet commit to certifying the presidential election results, whatever they may be. >> what about 2024? >> we will see if this is a legal and valid election. >> you only commit to certify the results if -- >> if they are constitutional. >> does that mean if president trump wins? >> it means they are constitutional. what we saw in 2020 was unconstitutional circumventing of the constitution, not going through state legislatures. >> joining me now, senior msnbc political contributor matthew dowd. what i'm hearing is she's not a

certified if the president does not win reelection. >> if democracy -- if you only accept results if you win and you deny the results when you lose, i mean, what's amazing to me, i think elise stefanik is so representative of what the modern gop has become. she entered congress as a center right, rational actor, she was going to be an adult in the room and help governance and lead to the new generation of the republican leadership. she has been completely revealed. i think that's what donald trump's greatest asset has been in america. he has revealed people for who they are. elise stefanik has moved from the rational center right republican to someone who accepted conspiracy theories. in that same interview, as you know, she described the insurrectionists of the capitol as hostages. some people who were arrested in the aftermath of that, she

saying it was unconstitutional that joe biden became president of the united states and what happened in the electoral college and in the aftermath of january six. it really is so reveler tory that someone like elise stefanik has been revealed to be just as conspiracy oriented and is as willing to believe the election lie is anyone. >> let tk a little bit about the presidents tactics here when icomes to his reelection bid i know u wrote about it. i want to read a quote about that. part of his pitches going to be voting for preserving democracy, right? the title of your piece, time to tie the moral democracy to voter self interest -- you write this. democracy and freedom are just words to many of these orders who have lost trust in our institutions and the must see those words through the prism of why it matters to them in their daily lives this year. talk about that and how you think the president and his surrogates as well can make

that connection. >> well, thank you. i mean, i took this from the lessons we have learned from abraham lincoln who basically had a moral cause, the saving of the union, but he also understood that voters have self interest in mind. when you look at communication, he communicated in a way why this wasn't certain peoples self-interest that we have to keep the union together and defeat the confederacy. i think every single issue that the biden campaign should talk about, i do believe it in a broader message as the president discussed about changing our democracy and keeping fighting threats to it by maga republicans, but i think voters will only tune in and only engage in that because they are worried about it or on their table. they are worried about their kids education. they are worried about many things. woman's health care freedom is totally tied to whatever we have a democracy. the rising of democracy is totally --

preserving the promise of social security and medicare solely tied. i think that if you're going to talk about any of those issues you need to tie it with democracy and then make an argument to voters, if you care about x, you should care about the threat to democracy that the republicans and donald trump represent. >> it's a smart. some of it doesn't resonate. that is why i think i take issue with it. if you look at the economy, the economy is doing well. it's not resonating with the american public, right? it's about the fields, not about the real side of what is happening. the numbers say it is doing well, but when they go to the grocery store, they're thinking it's not doing well even though they still have a job. we are seeing what happens across this country when it comes to abortion. the woman in texas had to leave that state to receive a lifesaving abortion because the restrictive abortion laws were put in place by the state of texas. those issues are not necessarily resonating, it

seems, with voters today. obviously, abortion has resonated in all the elections between 2020 and now. >> well, that is why i think it is incumbent upon president biden and the democrats to tell the american public what the election is about. i wouldn't run an election campaign based on the economy. i wouldn't make the argument that biden economics is working. you're going against gale forces against you. how do people feel about it? it's how they feel about it. if you say this is a fundamental election about our democracy, that's what it's about. make that argument from now going into election day. tie every single issue you talk about that matters to voters to why preserving democracy should matter to them. don't make it about the economy. make it about democracy. when you talk about the economy, say that preserving our democracy is the only thing that is going to allow people to have the economy they want. >> matthew dowd, as always,

it's a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. secretary of state antony blinken at a crucial point in this diplomatic mission to the middle east. we're going to look at what we've learned about israel's plan for what's next in gaza and whether the u.s. will go along. and whether the u.s. will go along. along. vive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as 14 days. now i can help again. feel the difference with nervive. (dad) it's our phone bill... we pay for things nthat we don't need.. (mom) that's a bit dramatic. (dad) we must tighten our belts! (mom) a better plan to save is verizon! (vo) that's right! plans start at $25 per line guaranteed for 3 years. only on verizon. sara federico: at st. jude, we don't care who cures cancer. we just need to advance the cure. it's a bold initiative to try and bump cure rates all around the world, but we should. it is our commitment. we need to do this. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours.

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-- it's a pleasure. thank you for joining us on this. you have a top israeli officials saying the idf is ready to defend israel, quote, through the force of arms against hezbollah. they add that the potential for a diplomatic resolution is still open. what do you make of these varying degrees of response? >> well, so many challenges for secretary blinken on a trip in which the israeli minister of defense talked about israel fighting a six or seven front war. he has been, where do you even begin? you mentioned just now about the north. i think all eyes in the intelligence world are focused on the north because, in essence, israel has 80,000 citizens who can return home. you have this escalating cross border strikes between israel and hezbollah. israelis are saying, look, we will give diplomacy a chance but if that does not work there is always the military option. from previous reporting, we

know that the idf and the israeli minister of defense in essence wanted a preemptive strike on hezbollah right after october 7th kicked off. pretty big challenges for blinken. i think neither side wants this. there's always the part that worries everybody that there's room for miscalculation. >> matt bradley, our correspondent on the ground in tel aviv, i think he brought up a really interesting point in the past hour. blinken can talk to all of these people. he can talk to turkey. he can talk to the gulf states. the people he cannot speak to our hamas, hezbollah, and iran. we know iran's funding. iran is pulling the strings. iran is directing what they are proxies are carrying out. how do you settle this thing? how do you quell what is continuing to happen in gaza from hamas and israel without iran in the picture, without

iran in the conversation? >> well, yasmin, a koppel of things. i, i think the situation in gaza, the high intensity operations are winding down. the israelis have announced this. they have withdrawn thousands of forces. i think you're going to see much more targeted strikes and drones. this was one of the key u.s. demands to change tactics. i think that is going to happen. in one sense, that's a good thing because that kind of brings down that rhetoric, particularly when it comes to hezbollah. as i said before, the situation in the north is heating up. you brought up an outstanding point. what do we do about iran and iranian proxies? one of the things, the u.s. has done a lot of things right, but we haven't gotten the deterrents piece. >> no. >> we haven't gotten that right. we have iranian proxies in syria continuing to strike u.s. forces. you have the houthis nearly shutting down all of the sea

passages for international shipping. so, without a stronger u.s. military statement, which would be strikes against, for example, the houthis in yemen, this policy of deterrence isn't working. secretary of defense, former secretary of defense panetta said it a month ago. anyone who shoots at us must die. that sounds pretty dire and extreme. in essence, that is the formula for deterrence. we have not followed that. one of the things we will see as u.s. military activity in yemen in the coming days or weeks. we're going to have to do that. >> is that what you would say is getting it right in iran, what panetta said? >> you have to escalate a bit to de-escalate. you know, we have to convince the iranians and their proxies to stop firing a u.s. forces. iraq, syria, and what is happening in the red sea as well, there has to be more of an aggressive u.s. posture. it's kind of a well-known

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officer has not been charged. joining me now is nbc's marissa part of, to talk more about this. what more do we know, marissa, about this newly released body cam footage? >> hey, he has. when i, mean as we, know this moment happened in may. the mississippi bureau of investigation releasing the footage, however, this weekend, showing the chaos of the moments leading to that moment, 1:11 year old -- murray was shot in the chest. so, in the video, -- just a small portion of it momentarily. you will see oaths chaotic moments when sergeant greg papers moves past the mother inside of the home and eventually shoots the child in those katika woman's. i want to warn you that what you're about to see is disturbing. we're not going to show you, of course, the actual shooting, itself, out of respect for the family and the 11-year-old. but we are going to show you those moments leading up to it. but >> let me see your hands. >> where is he at? where is he had? you better come on out. come out, then. does he have any weapons? come on out.

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incident. now, the family has filed a federal civil lawsuit, but on the other side hear. we do know that sergeant caper says in an interview with abc news, saying that this moment has haunted him, that he has shed several tears over this moment. we also have learned that sergeant capers is currently back on his job. this was after a mississippi grand jury vote in december, but there is another meeting that's going to be happening about two weeks, yasmin. that initial vote was done before the release of this body cam footage. so, of course, we have seen in the past how body cams have impacted how these things tend to go. so, it remains to be seen if this will have an impact and how on that next meeting that's happening shortly, yasmin. >> all right, marisa pardo for us, thank you, marissa, i appreciated. coming up, everybody. new details on that spending bill about to be announced anytime now on capitol hill. a live update coming up. plus, donald trump facing a busy week in two separate courtrooms. a look ahead at his schedule. all tied up with trials. up with trials. up with trials. [stomach growling] it's nothing...

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we now have the details of the spending deal reached on capitol hill. back with us, now at nbc's julie ingested from capitol hill. walk us through what we know, julia. >> we just received speaker johnson, dear colleague letter, which gives us more details on this top line spending agreement. the big, important number is one point 59 trillion dollars. that is the top line for

spending in fiscal year 2024, which allots 886 billion for defense and 704 billion in non-defense spending. now, speaker johnson is touting 16 billion in spending cuts to offset discretionary spending levels, and he highlights two key concessions made by democrats. the first is cutting an additional ten billion dollars in irs funding, as well as six billion dollars in covid era funds, which the white house strongly opposed. so, he's touting these as winds for republicans, but that doesn't mean that this is a done deal. my colleague ali vitali, as you've seen today, is on the campaign trail and chip roy said that he doesn't like what he's hearing, regarding these top line numbers. we are already getting a little bit of republican opposition, but now that this top line is set, that is good news for progress to avoid this

government shutdown at the january 19th deadline. the appropriations committee can get to work, negotiating these details, and it really is just a first, critical step to avoid a shutdown ahead of january 19th. now, as you may remember back in november, congress pass that teared cr, which funder the government partially to january 19th and then the rest through february 2nd. and so, this is great news, but we will see in the days to come, as all of the members of congress flood back to d.c., how this lands with both republicans and democrats. because it is going to need to get the support of both. >> we have ali vitali to hell us tell us how she thinks is going to land. julia chances for, us thank you, appreciated. with that, i want to go to iowa and our -- battalions are covering the 2024 campaign. but asking me to do something else that you normally do, ali, which i know you have no problem doing. so, let me just walk folks through, if they didn't get a really kind of total sense of what's happening here, what

we're getting from speaker johnson here. you've got this one point 59 overall trillion dollar total for fiscal year 24. eight 86 billion for defense program, 704 billion fernanda fence spending. no additional emergency funding. ten billion in additional cuts to irs funding, as well. 6.1 billion dollar cuts in covid era spending. walk me through what you expect the reaction to be, both from the right-wing republican caucus, along with democrats. >> well, we know the republicans in the house have not been shy, yasmin, with voicing their concerns or i are with their own leadership. in fact, is why kevin mccarthy's now ending the year and starting this one completely out of a job and certainly, out of the speakership. so, that's always the tone and tenor of that. the new speaker, mike johnson, is operating against and he alluded to this in his dear colleague, that we just got in the last few minutes. he said, i know this isn't

going to make everybody happy, but it allows us to move the process forward, it allows us to not shut down the government, and it does allow us to get year over year cuts to spending, which doesn't satisfy everyone. johnson is right on that. and frankly, i just tried to catch up with congressman chip roy, who is often one of those outspoken republicans, but he doesn't like what he sees from leadership on the spending front. and he told me, as julia mentioned, he doesn't like what he's hearing, again, these numbers came out while we were, while he was on stage, while we were following this ron desantis event here in iowa. but here's the thing that really strikes me, yasmin. one point 5:15 trillion is the overall spending number, it's important because that's where the house freedom caucus, that group of 20 or so republican lawmakers, that's what they said was palatable to them at the end of last year. it was a notable shift, if not quiet, when it was done, because it was done amid the holidays. but the fact that that's where the top line number has landed, it doesn't matter if people like ship roy say they don't

like what they're hearing. they could still be in line with what they could accept, at least in the short term. here's what -- weather freedom caucus said when they said they would accept 1.59 trillion and i notice it in the speaker's letter to his colleagues. at one point, he says there were modifications to the side deals that were initially negotiated in the fiscal responsibility act. that's what kevin mccarthy did with the white house last summer when they first talk about avoiding the debt ceiling battle. all of these things might seem like they're a little bit inside baseball, but the freedom caucus said they'd go along with 1.59 trillion if the side deals were off the table. modifications that johnson is talking about now, not sure if that's going to be enough. but again, lawmakers get back to washington this coming week. i'm sure they're going to have a lot to say about, it even if they weren't too late thinking about it with me here. and >> i've got to say, i'm not quite sure the right-wing freedom caucus will necessarily be happy when they see the presidents and the white house's statement on this.

they do seem pretty satisfied about where they landed on this thing. i will read for folks here. the bipartisan funding framework congressional leaders have reached moves as one step closer to preventing a needless government shutdown and protecting important national priorities. it reflects the funding levels that inetiated with both parties and signed into law last spring. it rejts deep cuts to programs, hardworking families count on and provides a path to passing full year funding bills that deliver f t american people anou freedom. any extreme policies, i want to thank leader schumer and jeffries for their leadership and reaching this framework now congressiol republicans must do their job, stop threatening to shut down the government, and fulfill their basic responsibility to nd critical domestic and natial security priorities, including by supplemental request. it is time for them to act, ali. final thoughts? >> that supplemental request is where this starts getting really hairy for republicans and democrats, alike. because right now, we're talking about top line

appropriations numbers. yes, you've got to imagine this in multiple buckets that are all going to be merged together. it's a top line funding appropriations number, mixed with a supplemental funding for ukraine and taiwan, and israel. mix, again, with border security, which is something that republicans, especially in the house, said that they would need to feel placated on, in order to go along with the rest of it. so, i know that all of these things seem like they're completely separate, but they aren't because, of course, it's congress, everything gets mushed together at the end of the day to get something done. but there are more parts than just the top line number. it's a significant step, it's important for us to see where the numbers are going to line from a spending perspective. but the supplemental is a key piece of this and so is the border package. >> ali vitali, thank you, my friend, appreciate it. we will be right back, everybody. k, everybody. everybody. and stabbing pain in my hands, so i use nervive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as 14 days. now i can help again. feel the difference with nervive.

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start with tuesday, ryan, if you will, and our expectations. >> yeah, so obviously, donald trump pretending -- significantly raise media attention on this issue. you know, obviously, this is something that's livestreamed. he could theoretically, like everyone else, sit back and listen to it at his convenience. but he really wants to be there in person for this hearing. obviously, that's going to bring a big spectacle. like you've seen new york, when donald trump shows up, he tends to make these things into essentially a campaign opportunity for himself. so, you know, the legal arguments here, they're going to go over obviously this is something that's going to -- case on pause for now. but you know, that march trial date is still on the books, although almost certainly will be delayed and jack smith is trying to keep this case on track as much as humanly possible to keep that clock moving because, you know, time is ticking before the election and donald trump's entire strate here is essentially trying to get this thing delayed as much as he can. >> so, there's a lot out of jack smith's control, danny cevallos. march 4th, you said repeatedly

on our air, it's not going to happen at this point, right? this thing is going to end up likely back at the supreme court. when does the federal case happen? >> it's going to be danger close to the election and if it happens a month before, it's interesting. doj has a policy to not prosecute in a political setting, somewhere along, you know, several monthsre the election. i don't know if that still applies if the case is already pending and it just had to go to trial. but you get into some protein constitutional issues. if there is a pending federal trial or state trial, once donald trump not only is elected for -- his inauguration. once he becomes the president, then there's some really unanswered questions as to what happens to a sitting president with pending criminal cases, with federal and state, and they get treated differently under the constitution. i mean, arguably, it's the supremacy clause that would pause the state proceedings and then it would be separation of powers that would halt the federal cases against him. but i, mean anyone who says they know what happens in the

situation is guessing because it's never happened before. >> well, danny, i want to ask you about the colorado case as well. we know it's headed to the supreme court. the supreme agreeing to art. are they going to make decision just on colorado? or could they then apply that, for instance, to maine as well? and will they make a decision also as to whether or not this president, the former president of the united states, engaged in an insurrection? >> because by the way, that's one of the issues that trump is challenging. that may not be set in stone either. >> right, but it's one of the issues that he wasn't charged for by jack smith. >> yes, but constitutionally, that doesn't matter for purposes of section three and removing of the ballot. >> -- brought that up and his argument as to why he felt as if he shouldn't have been taken off the ballot. that's why i brought that up. >> it is a fair argument, right. there are so many arguments that if they go his way, donald trump stays on the ballot. on the other hand, any one of those go wrong, then he remains on the ballot. so, the arts are, just playing

the odds, trump remains anabella. that's a great example, the argument that he was not tried or charged with insurrection. i don't think that's the strongest argument, but it is an argument to be made. i think the constitution's text alone does not require a criminal prosecution. but you asked about the issues that the court may consider. they may consider one global issue. for example, is donald trump at officer within the meaning of section three of the 14th amendment? that would give some guidance to all the states. but i think it's going to be more complicated than that. let's just take maine and colorado for example. they seem very similar. they decided the two issues of donald trump is an insurrectionist and he's an officer within the meaning of section three. but in maine, that was decided administratively. in colorado, decided by the courts. one of the arguments by trump is that the courts can't even decide this in the first place. so, that would lead to a different result. the main issue isn't even before the court. >> ryan, talk to me about thursday. i'm going to be outside that courtroom for closing arguments in the new york civil fraud trial. >> yeah, well, the a.g. is

seeking 300 and $70 million, an extraordinarily high figure here. i think the thing that unites this case with these other cases it's all about lies, right? that's what's at the center of this attorney general's civil case. as we move forward, versus these other prosecutions, you know? that donald trump has a repeated pattern of lying to the public, misleading the public, misleading, you know, his company's alleged -- investors here, that's already been decided by the judge. this really just a matter of what that bottom line number is going to be. the judge has indicated that they're going to try to, he is going to try to get that out by the end of the month, he has been. >> ryan riley, danny cevallos, thank you both. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right, so during the show, i've often been joined by the good liars, the comedy duo who spend their time asking the tough questions of the maga faithful at trump rallies. my favorite friends at -- were not able to join us for this final show, due to circumstances beyond their control. but they did send along this gem that we had not seen

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i'm yasmin vossoughian. welcome to my new show here on msnbc. >> that's it, everybody. see you later. just kidding. so, that was september 19th, 2020. more than three years ago, as we started msnbc live with yasmin of seguin here on msnbc. it has been an incredible run but today marks the final edition of this show. it has been the ride of my life. the day before that debut, supreme court justice ruth peter ginsburg passed away. a monumental event that forced us to toss out the show that we had been working on all weekend to start from scratch. that set the tone for what we have tried to bring you every single week. never afraid to blank the prompter when the news warrants bringing you the very latest news as it happens. i have been lucky to do that for with an amazing team of people. some of them are missing in that picture as well. my executive producer, mike mclaughlin as well, who

slouches in the control room and i often yell at him to speak up and help me pronounce names, which he has no idea how to pronounce. along with every other person that has been with our show. you know who you are. i'm proud of the work we have done and the stories we have told. hi, guys. this show has taken me live to capitol hill to cover the fallout from the january 6th insurrection. that was bananas. the supreme court for reaction to the life-changing decision to end roe. and then to uvalde and other cities that have joined the list of those touched by mass shootings. but most of all, it's taken me inside your homes and for that, i want to thank, you thank you for the trust that you've put in me to bring you these life-changing stories week and after weekend, to find humanity behind the headlines. and i want to especially thank all of you who reached out during my battle with tara card-itis at a very tough time in my life. you lifted me up when i needed it the most. now i get my weekends back and time with my school age kids,

who always hated that mommy could not hang out on the weekends. but i'm not going away. you're going to see me a lot during the week here on msnbc in this anchor chair and in the field with some of the biggest stories we're going to face in our lifetime. i am so incredibly excited for what is to come, but i will miss this chair at this time. thank you for making a dream come true. i will see you soon. i'm yasmin vossoughian. symone starts right now. >> greetings, everyone. you're watching symone. we start this hour with breaking news. congress has just reached a deal on a spending bill for 2024 and this comes as a threat of government shutdown hangs on this deal being approved. i want to bring in nbc's julia jester, who's been reporting out the details of this agreement. julia,