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to ayman. tonight, accountability and donald trump. him and his team are due in court today to sideline his january 6th case by arguing that he's immune from being prosecuted for the decisions he made. also, tonight we found something rare on capitol hill. bipartisanship. both parties have agreed on numbers to fund the government. can they pass it before a shutdown ensues later this month? plus, florida republicans think that they can own the liberals by naming a new law after the vice president that mandates what troops teachers can tell in the classrooms. i'm charles coleman junior in for my friend ayman mohyeldin. we have a lot to talk about.
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let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ keep your eyes on donald trump this week. at least try to. this guy is about to redefine what it is to be on the move. tuesday, his legal team will attempt to duck accountability for trump's role in trying to overturn the election that he clearly lost, as well as for his rhetoric and inaction surrounding the capitol attack. in federal court, trump lawyers will try to convince a three judge panel that trump is immune to prosecution. this trial was supposed to kick off on march 4th, but is temporarily on hold. there's a ton to follow regarding his legal panel, and we know that there is a lot coming up. before we go there, let's remind ourselves how we got here. in august, special counsel jack smith brought a four count indictment against trump, including charges that he conspired todefraud the united
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states, and prevent the peaceful transfer of power to pridt biden. it was not long after he pled but not guilty that his lawyers began citing presidential immunity, presidential immunity in hopes of getting the entire case dismissed. they first filed claims back in october, arguing that trump has absolute immunity from crimin prosecution for actions that were performed within the, quote, outer perimeter of his official duties as president. in december, judge tanya chutkan rejected the claims, saying that quote, former presidents don't possess absolute criminal immunity for any of the acts committed while in office. trump appealed the ruling, and just paused the proceedings. concerned about a majordelay, jack smith asked the united states in court to intervene. the supreme court denied fast-tracking, it and instead sent the issue back to the u.s. court of appeals. that's where we are now. it is important to note that
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there was at the high court refused to quickly rule on the issue, and the justices themselves might as well been taking up the case sooner than later anyways. that is because if the appeals court turns down trump's immunity claims this week, he is likely going to be appealing to the supreme court again. we've seen another version of this movie before. it's because we have. everything about where we are right now, it's the revisiting of trump's hallmark legal strategy. delay, delay, delay, delay and some more. he's nothing if he's not consistent. with the election looming, this is to put it mildly, deeply problematic. the stakes couldn't be higher. the 82-page filing for the d.c. court of appeals, the special counsel highlights the dangers of what can happen if trump's immunity claims were to succeed. taking bribes from government contracts, telling the fbi to plant evidence of political enemies, using the national guard as positional muscle
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against political enemies. nuclear secrets on sale to foreign adversaries. smith says that all of that is possible if any president is allowed to skirt consequences for actual criminal behavior. that is how we got here. let's not forget that at the foundation of it all is one thing. donald trump's actions. he's been moderately successful in convincing his base that these are the forces of evil, everybody on the right is out to get him from the deep state. and him, fine, i will give him that. when it comes to messaging and marketing, this guy is a important case study. he is a master of breaking things so that he can look like a hero by trying to fix them. all of this chaos, this entire mess exists, and exists for one reason only. his own decisions. his beliefs, his policies, his
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own actions. that leads us to be the big question we have asked about him for years. -- as we battle throughout the next election. what will it take for donald trump to realize then his own actions are truly -- joining me now to unpack this is anthony colleague, msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst. also a former director of the office of public affairs under the department of justice. also with us, my friend and colleague, jamie civilize. super winner msnbc analyst and criminal defense attorney, anthony, danny, great to see. so glad to see you guys. big week coming up for donald. he's going to be all over the place. courtrooms to campaigns, campaigned a courtroom. what are you watching for, anthony, as this week kicks off? >> i think a couple of things.
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and number one, trump is trying to delay this case for as long as he can with the hopes that he can get into the white house and then order the dismiss. that's number one. the second, thing is fighting in the court of public opinion. that's why he's going to attend this hearing in person. that's on tuesday, and presumably talk to the press and public afterwards. there is one thing that i would like to note, and i've heard this from some in the political commentary space that he is jumping off of the campaign trail to attend this hearing. that's not how i view it. i think he views this campaign and these issues as inextricably linked. if anything, this is another stop on his campaign trail. in terms of this inextricable linkage, we are seeing this a lot and how he talks about these things on the campaign trail. uses that rhetoric where he says that i am being indicted because of you, or that they are coming after you, i am just in the way.
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that is what he talks about, and i think that the bottom line here, charles is that donald trump is trying to win no matter what, no matter how. for him, it is a no holds barred fight. i think that he is trying to, in your words, delay, delay, delay. he is also very adamant at trying to use the court of public opinion to further the disinformation, and to deceive the american people from -- and pull the wool over his eyes, like he's done the last couple of years. >> i'm glad that you made that point, just to talk about the link between donald trump in court and donald trump on the campaign trail. for all intents and purposes, in many respects he's using his activity in court as the campaign stop, because he has the bull horn. he has the microphone, the cameras are there. and lawyer, lawyer, take the glasses off. with that, in new york, for the civil trial, we saw a very
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vocal donald trump. he was talking about the proceedings, he was obviously talking about the court officials. do you expect to hear this same level of bravado from donald trump as we talk about the d.c. court of appeals? >> i really don't. i think that even donald trump is likely to have a little bit more respect for the united states court of appeal. i did not even think about that possibility. certainly, he might come out on the courthouse steps and give a statement. i do not think that it is as likely that he will be quite as bold as he was with justice agüero on the united states supreme court. remember, new york is kind of confusing. they call its lowest court supreme court. i know that you know, that but it can be very confusing. i have this theory that donald trump, because he is a longtime new yorker, i think that he had -- and somebody who left new york out of spite. i think that he had some kind of extra lack of respect for a state supreme court justice, and that is why he felt so emboldened to make the comments that he did about justice
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engoron. maybe he felt like he was somehow safe in the city of new york. i just do not see even donald trump doing that, playing with fire when it comes to federal court houses, and federal judges. whether the circuit courts and appeals judges, or whether they be district court judges. these are also the same people that are going to decide his immunity claim. it is one thing for justice and going on in the united states supreme court to decide you're out of 1 million dollars, but it's another thing to anger the court of appeals judges who might be deciding his immunity from criminal prosecution. >> you've talked about the courts and levels, let's go high. in fact, let's go to the highest of the highs. we do not believe, and i tend to agree with you that donald trump is going to have as much rhetoric around his d.c. court of appeals case. now we have the supreme court involved. we have the supreme court involved, potentially around the 14th amendment. we have heard whispers, and some rhetoric publicly to his followers for the most part about the fight that he went
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through to get kavanaugh on the bench. what is the strategy there? why are you talking about what you did to get supreme court justices seated before they are going to hear the case that will ultimately determine your future. what am i missing? >> is that a rhetorical question. you know the answer. he's probably talking about kavanaugh as if to say, hey, i helped you out, no help me out. at least that is what people are going to be saying about anything to donald trump says about the supreme court justices that he had the responsibility for placing on the bench. >> is it smart? >> it's not smart. look, it is not smart to talk about federal judges at all when you have a pending case. i'm trying to put on my trump rationale hat for a moment. in his mind, he thinks that whether or not they are public about, it they probably think that they owe him something for getting on to the bench. i don't know, in trump land, that makes sense. it does not make sense to a court that is so committed to
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being objective. i include justice kavanaugh along with all of the other justices. chief justice roberts has made it a priority -- and i'm paraphrasing, but to bring back the respect to the supreme court. i do not think that donald trump's goals are going to be achieved by doing what he thinks it's helping him. >> this is the problem with donald trump, charles. he expects loyalty from anybody around him, and the fact of the matter is that judges who are known to the constitution, not to the man did appointed you. >> anthony, just a follow-up here, you have got the supreme court justices. your jacks mitt, you are seeing this. one thing that i want to ask you about, clarence thomas. is there any desire from the doj to see justice thomas recuse himself from these cases being heard? >> charles, clarence thomas has been causing problems since before he got on to this court. the fact of the matter is that the ethics issues, the ethics rules before the court are --
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they have no teeth. i do not expect you're going to see the doj with so many matters before the court trying to encourage any justice to step back. should he? absolutely. will he? absolutely not. >> two of my absolute favorites right here to help us get started on this sunday evening, anthony coley, anthony cevallos. thank you for joining me. still to come, at the iowa caucuses are a week away, and it's what the republican candidates aren't doing on the campaign trail that we have to talk about. first, my friend richard louis is here with the day's headlines, and all of the big stories we are following. richard, how are you? >> charles, good to see you. some of the stories we're watching for. first, of secretary of state antony blinken in jordan today, making with -- and the minister of foreign affairs. blinken, reiterating the u.s. is opposed to enforcing the removal of palestinians, and is committed to a palestinian state. in the west bank today, seven people were killed in an attack carried out by the israeli
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military. this follows the heaviest day of fighting between hezbollah and the idf at the israel and lebanon border to date. the idf claims that they dismantled hamas's military infrastructure in northern gaza as well. they will now focus their military operations in the south. it's more than 22,700 people killed in gaza since october 7th. exactly three months to this weekend. more ayman, right after this break. fo rmula repairs hair. as well as the leading luxury bonding treatment. for softness and resilience, without the price tag. if you know... you know it's pantene. with nurtec odt, i can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt.
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watching ayman on msnbc. i'm charles coleman junior and for ayman. tomorrow's gonna be mark one week until the iowa gop presidential caucus, it'll be the last chance republican candidates to make the case as to why they should be the presidential nominee instead of donald trump. nikki haley has leapfrogged rhonda signed a four second pace in a new blow of gop -- her surge is causing bickering among the candidates after she said that she would consider choosing rhonda santos as her running mate. the florida governor quickly shot the idea down. they've also begun to step up their attacks on trump arguing that he should be the party's nominee again while also whitewashing january six. haley, despite condemning
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trump's actions has said that she pardon him if he was convicted of a crime. while desantis, has spent more energy chiding democrats in the media over january six then the man who started the riot to begin with. and then there's a long shot candidate, vivek ramaswamy, remember him? he went even further posting on acts, happy entrapment day. in reference to the three year anniversary of the capitol attack. joining me now is democratic strategist, my friend, brother, -- lincoln adviser and former gop -- so glad to have you guys. tara, in my intro i really did not list any actual issues that are being campaigned on. and that's probably because the only time that they raised them is when they wanted to complain, are they missing an opportunity in terms of courting voters,
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what are the solutions to all their grievances? >> while, there is no issue that the republican party really stands on other than -- and trumpism. that's clear, the way that everyone's run the race it has been talked around it and they've tried everything they can other than to say, donald trump is unfit for office, he wants to violate the constitution, he incited an insurrection and he is a disgrace to our party. and he's taking us away from what used to be republican orthodoxy, that's not the case anymore, no one cares about those issues, it's all about pleasing donald trump. it's clear in the polling, it doesn't matter what nikki haley says, it doesn't matter what ron desantis says, it doesn't matter what any of them says, donald trump will didn't be the nominee, he's been far away the leader in all the polls since even before he announced, we predicted this at the lincoln
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project a year ago, that donald project -- to try and take him out, it would have been a unified message in the entire republican party saying, the guys unqualified, this is why. because he's against our democracy, he doesn't represent american values, and he's a danger to the future of our democracy. but clearly, the republican party does not believe that anymore, they're falling in line to support him. all of this horse race between nikki haley, desantis, and christine altman, is an exercise in futility. they're going to lose badly to donald trump, it doesn't matter he will be the nominee. >> in many respects with what tara just said, this is a race to second if not a race altogether to the bottom. basil, it seems like the primary field on the right literally just realize that donald trump was in the race because this entire time they have not been running against him, they've been running against each other, and they
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haven't had all touched him. and this is the first time we're seeing these love taps against donald trump as a potential candidate and the front runner. is this a case of two little, too late, or doesn't even matter with respect to haley, desantis, because of donald trump seemingly insurmountable lead. >> yeah, you know, to tara's point, this was a moment that when the republican leadership included the presidential candidates could come together and just collectively say that we want someone else other than donald trump, it doesn't matter who, someone other than him. but it didn't really happen, chris christie was probably the loudest, the boldest to really speak on this. he's pretty much on an island onto himself at this point as a result of that. but it's too little too late, even if you look at how donald trump has been talking on the campaign trail over the last few days, what he's doing is
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urging his supporters to go out and vote. what does that suggest, there's an inevitability that has seeped and among the republican electorate that he will be the nominee, so much so he needs to go out and prime people to go in caucus for him. when you're at that point, it's a breakdown to me, forget about republican orthodoxy, but even campaign strategy, how do you differentiate between someone who continuously support, up to and including all the things that he did that we don't like. there's no accountability there. it's just too little, too late, i think the ship has sailed and quite frankly, even in another time, an earth to, or three where this would be a delegate race, we can't even have that conversation. there is no race to be had. >> that makes me wonder, tara, i need to have a bit of a
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personal note here, i have a friend of mine who is a grumpy political hack, i'm about to lose a bet to him because i as many others, thought that ron desantis perhaps could be a formidable opponent for donald trump, he was supposed to be the next gop superstar, we watched him wage a war against nikki in florida, he seem like this tough guy who was embodying everything about trump that people seem to like with none of the baggage how in the world does he flame out under the big lights? >> charles, you haven't been listening to us, the lincoln project, rick wilson and i have been saying from day one, ron desantis had no chance once people got to know him, they weren't going to like him, he's awkward, he's arrogant and when he actually doesn't like people. and that came across very quickly on the trail you
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weren't the only one that fell for -- ron desantis. there are lots of others in the republican party who thought, look what he did in florida, he's trump without the baggage, and that way he could keep this going and take trump -- no, no, no and desantis was, his campaign was over from the very beginning and he saw all the problems, how many restarts did he have, everyone who knows when you're on a campaign when you start changing leadership a few weeks into the campaign, and the story starts coming out, knives are out of that, you spent what money. and then his wife's meddling and things, it was doom from the beginning and so we kind of recognize the same fact and said, we told you so and we really told you so, it's gonna be an absolute embarrassment around desantis, he should've waited until 2028 perhaps. he can't really buy -- good luck, long to santa's. >> i fell for the okey dokey, that quickly, before we get out of add the gop candidates were
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all invited to participate in the iowa brown and black presidential forum. this is the nation's oldest minority forum, and all the candidates except -- alongside that you never heard of rejected the offer. what does it say about any of their hopes in the general election to appeal to voters of color? >> it needs to be quick, i'll say it quickly, if nikki haley can't even say the word slavery, it tells you everything you need to know about where these candidates are, how they feel about black and brown people in this country, and whatever agenda they may have, it does not include us. so, even if they attended, spoke wonderfully about whatever policies they may had for communities of color, i wouldn't via. >> basil, tara, for sticking around we have more to talk about. coming up next, the house republican majority is
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acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. the republican party's majority in the house of representatives was already razor than. but now, it's about to get even more ten u.s., this past week gop congressman, bill johnson of ohio announced that he will resign come january 21st in order to become the new head of youngstown state university. another one bites the dust. normally, a single capitol hill wouldn't be that big of a deal, but recall that johnson's departure comes after the expulsion of everyone's favorite self made man, former representative, george santos, and former house speaker, kevin mccarthy's retirement before the holiday. when you put all three of these three departures together, it means the gop in the house is
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gonna shrink to just a mere 219, that's just one seat more than the bare minimum necessary for a majority. all of this has major implications for party leaders. not only would maga mike johnson and company have to walk a proverbial speech to find the most necess order to keep the government open an operatiol. but also to secure funding for the border, israel, and ukraine. this year, l shrinking, it will tu 2024 i a quote, barr burner, as built by t gop leaders will need to be more pragmatic and more selective when choosing what seats to protect and flip, especially when considering major redistricting plans in states like new york and wisconsin. my panel is back with me, i want to welcome -- thank you guys for sticking around. basil, with this bill, johnson 's retirement, do you think
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that house republicans are having second thoughts about ousting george santos? >> oh, i don't know if they're having second thoughts about asking george santos. i like the word you used in the lead up which was selective. in my view, they're going to have to engage in selective outrage, what are they gonna be outraged by, what kind of manifestations are there going to be, particularly, by the more extreme members of the house if they try to essentially sabotage mike johnson's leadership. he has a tremendous job, a difficult job because he may need to start cutting deals with democrats to be able to get things done. and that didn't bode well for the last guy. it's interesting because as you mentioned, new york, there's a lot of tension because of the number of seats that the democrats lost. but now the number of seats that democrats need to gain, including that santos seat, so
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much tension is gonna be here this week. the democratic leader is here he could be speaker if all things go according to plan their. but so is a least a fantastic, also new york, it'll be interesting to see what kind of leadership she takes in trying to build back the majority in new york and elsewhere. interestingly, new york will be a bit of a battleground state who are normally it is not. >> tara, we learned this week that representative, steve scalise, is having a stem cell transplant as part of his blood cancer treatment. it's likely he'll be out of washington for a time. and that means that there is a period after he steps down that republicans will literally only have 218 -- in the house. they won't be able to lose not one vote on legislation. do you think that leads to instead of zero productivity coming off of the least
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productive congresses we've had in history. or is it possible that somehow, new year, new you, is it possible that the republicans might use this as an opportunity to try and figure out how to get things done in a bipartisan way? >> one of the republicans ever done this in the last five years, six years. >> i had to ask. >> you know the answer to this, okay, this is gonna be an absolute disaster, do nothing congress this year. first of, all in a major election year like this, presidential election, your congress doesn't get much done anyway. everyone's fighting for their political life. this dysfunction in congress has added one -- it's really remarkable, when i caution my democratic friends right now, but what i want to caution them about is not get too comfortable in believing this is gonna be easy, republicans have been screwing
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this up, will win the majority next year with the small numbers now. please do not take that for granted. a lot of things can happen. what democrats should be doing is focusing on the fact that republicans are completely incapable of governing, and capable of governing, they could not select a speaker, they did select a speaker and he did not last for a year. the new speaker they elected after a couple of rounds, people dropping in and out, turns out he's a want to be commander in the handmaid's tale that has these extremist positions that are detrimental to women, we will of law, they are insurrectionists sympathizers, they don't respect our constitution, they want to turn this country into some christian nationalist extremist place that we do not as americans really want. they need to focus on the extremism of the republicans, you look at someone like stefanik, who basil just brought up, what are discussing display on the sunday show this
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morning, she talked about january six prisoners, january six felons as hostages. she made excuses for donald trump using the term poisoning the blood of america concerning immigrants. she is -- in her propaganda level of sufficiency when it comes to trumpism and his ilk, here's someone in republican leadership and in new york, taking advantage of this. i don't know that the american people actually know how despicable these people are, the things they're saying what they plan to do. you use that as they go into the election year with full aggression, pedal to the metal, there is no lighting up on this, i'm telling you right now if the tables were turned republicans would saddle every single democrat with the one or two extremist things that a couple of members say for the entire party. how do i know this, we did in 2010 with nancy pelosi, we used her as the villain, everything was about nancy pelosi, whether it mattered or not, didn't
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matter, it was extremism, it was a squad. do this now with the democrats, do that against republicans, because now it actually happens to be true. and our american democracy and policy in this country are at stake, i don't know that the american people are fully aware of what it would mean if republicans remain in power. >> kara, every shade you taking credit for that, you will absolutely did do a, and this is something i say a lot, democrats have fumbled the bag because they have a messaging problem, you win basil have done a wonderful job of laying out what they can do to overcome that come 2024. thank you both, next up, congressman steve cohen on a new study that's being pulled by his colleague, jim jordan. and what he makes a finneas deal that could avert a government shutdown. i'm charles coleman junior we have more on ayman, right after a quick break. e on ayman, right afte a quick break. a quick break.
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watching ayman on msnbc, i'm charles coleman junior in for ayman. on october, for judiciary committee, jim jordan, made a ve that he seems to be very fond of. he decided to investigate the investigators, jordan launched an inquiry into an investigation of conservative activists and federal society founder, leonard leo, he argued that the investigation into leo was politically motivated. it stems from a report by politico that exposed how leo moved tens of millions of dollars from a group affiliated with his nonprofit network to law for profit firm. after a watchdog group filed a claim with d.c. attorney general, brian schwab, the attorney general opened a probe. and then last week, jim jordan ran into a familiar problem. his request for information
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about the investigation was once again rejected. in a letter addressed to both him and congressman, james comer, schwab wrote, quote, as you know, that's the part right there, when you hear that that's when someone lets you know that you know better. as you know, congress has traditionally, and responsibly refrained from requesting information from federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies while potential investigations may be ongoing. you would think that jordan buy now would basically know this. i guess there is something to be said for persistence. the guy is on a hot streak of trying to weaponize his position in government. only to have his efrtshot down time and time again. remember, he went after manhattan attorney genel, albert bragg, by demanding information about his ongoing case against donald trump. that did not work ou so well for jordan either.
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bragg ultimately him in an further interference.inst the ohio republicanthe same approach after trump was indicted in georgia again, launching an investigation into fulton county district attorney, fani willis, over what he claimed was collusion with the january six committee. willis dismissed his claims. i'm joined by democratic congressman, steve cohen, from tennessee and house judiciary committee member, congressman, thank you -- what do you think of jim jordan's approach here, what's his game plan, he's always i don't know about the investigation of his investigation. but he keeps doing at? >> it's more of a politician that he is a lawyer. he did go to law school but he never touched the bar. he hasn't practiced law or used what he might have learned in law school. but it's obviously a separation of powers issue with the legislative not having the right to interfere with the
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judiciary. and especially when you have a situation where you have a congress individual who is so close to trump, trump gaining the presidential medal of freedom to mean that the presidential medal of freedom should go to people like julien pond, harry belafonte, people who do something courageous and things like that. regardless, he does politically what trump wants them to do, the committee is operating to try to help elect donald trump as president in spite of the fact that he's been defeated in light of the election and post-dissipated insurrection and has been impeached twice, indicted 91 times, -- republicans. they're all just deflecting and mass acting like charlie mccarthy's two edgar murray. >> congressman, i want to play something for you. jim jordan appeared on fox with maria, let's take a listen and
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i want to get your reaction. >> if we pass it out to the committee, it passed the house, what we can do, then it goes to the justice department and that will be the attorney general's decision whether he presses charges. if he does, it could be up to a year in jail time for failing to come and comply with a deposition for subpoena, subpoena deposition to be interviewed by congress. this is serious stuff. >> this is serious stuff. i just want to make a claim for all our viewers, that was a quote, not about the president joe biden, but about hunter biden, and hunter biden's relationship with the subpoenas that have been issued to him by the judiciary committee in the house. this is also the guy, jim jordan, who defied the subpoena from the january six committee. congressman, what's your reaction to the level of hypocrisy that's now being displayed by jim jordan,
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suddenly recognizing that congressional subpoenas are serious stuff. >> it's hypocrisy, it's also what you referred to in yiddish as chutzpah. to be able to claim such a thing, when you did not comply with a subpoena that was issued by the january six committee, and thumbed your nose at them. this is ridiculous, and but they don't respect other people in congress, republicans who were subpoenaed here either. they need to honor the subpoena of congress, they demeaned a, and it's become, this might take you to congress it's become less and less serious, less and less productive to the american people, and more and more show business, twitter bites, feeds, numbers or whatever, and politics for your guy, you're a girl in this case, it's all for trump, your guy, to make him president so you
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can have more power. but you don't like government, these people don't like government, they don't want to do anything to help people, they don't want to pass the budget, i don't know if we'll have a shut down but they wouldn't mind it, they don't believe in government. and they have a worn perceptive perspective on january six on its third anniversary, it's outlandish thoughts expressed by trump, twitter folks that have made, they think antifa and the fbi were involved in raiding the capitol, and it was not their people, and trump thinks the same thing. they listen to trump, and broadcast on the right wing ami dial, wherever they get their right-wing information. if they seriously think antifa had something to do with it, the fbi had something to do with that, they did nothing, they were good, decent, americans who came up there and broke windows, doors, and used flagpoles to hit policeman, slug them with whatever they
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can get, they brought bear mace, bear spray, dressed up as soldiers, they came for no good and trump sent them for no good. and he said 40 times you need to fight for our country, if you don't fight like hell, if you don't fight hard, you need to fight. this was the most despicable act against the united states, in the anti-american act of january six, we should hold our heads in shame and yet they call these people hostages, elise stefanik calls them hostages. this is how they commit the acts and they projected on someone else. what jordan's doing is wrong. what comer is doing is wrong. to go back to washington is to go back to a sad show, we have an inexperienced child speaker, and hopefully we'll get something done with the budget. >> congressman steve cohen, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> you're welcome, charles, happy new year to you.
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>> happy new year as well. coming up, a new low in an era of lows by florida republicans. they're using the price presidents name to restrict educators from teaching the truth. we're talking about that more on the other side of the show break on ayman, stay right there. right there. as the world keeps moving, help prevent covid-19 from breaking your momentum. you may have already been vaccinated against the flu, but don't forget this season's updated covid-19 shot too. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. that's great. i know, i've bee telling everyone. baby: liberty. oh! baby: liberty. how many people did you tell? only pay for what you need. jingle: ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ baby: ♪ liberty. ♪
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politicians who are trying divide our country when. because you see what they are doing, what they are doing, is they are creating these unnecessary debates. this is unnecessary to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery, are you kidding me? [applause] are we supposed to debate that? >> that was from last summer, vice president kamala harris over jacksonville florida in spse to curriculum updates made by the board of education. harris mentioned in that clip but it bears repeating, a new required lesson about how some black people benefited from slavery because it taught them useful skills. floridapublans clearly did not ta wl to that speech, it's safe to say that they were as mad, they were a t mad,
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lastthey trolled harris byg our namesake as the title of a new bill. the so-called, kamala harris truth and slavery teaching act, it would require teaching students that democrats or the so-called party of slavery. if you're a little rusty on your american history, i understand, this is a reference to a democratic party platform from two centuries ago. let's be clear, however, about what the priority is here. these day republicans are far more concerned about the blame game rather than any real discussion of the actual atrocities that occurred during slavery. it's the latest horrifying example of the republican playbook. let's flood the narrative with racist revisionist history and hammer home talking points that like any real contact, and have at best a fleeting relationship with real facts, all in the name of politics. we've seen erasure play out time a time again, not just in florida, but across the entire country.
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last, month in missouri, an all-white school brdoted to drop courses on black history and literature, a move that was pushed by conservati political action committee in the district. remember, over the course of 2021 in 2022, lawmakers introduced more than 500 measures against critical race theory according to a ucl report last year. -- that morth 3000 instances of book bannver the last year, most of which were written by people of color. and if all of that, everything i've said was not absurd enough, some republican presidential candidates have gone so far as to propose a laminating the department of education if they were elected. for a party that prioritizes individual choice, they sure regulating what kids are supposed to learn. but here's the thing, as usual, republicans are not completely out of touch with what
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americans actually want. according to a 2023 gala poll, 81% of all american support addressing historical racism in k through 12 curriculum. to the voters, that think that this hasn't to do with them, it doesn't affect me, the question becomes are you invested in america that isn't inclusive one? because for americans who have made the shiny city on a call, we could not afford to be dishonest about who we are and we've been. we must confront the reality of our past, only we'll continue to russell writer uncertainty surrounding our future. that's gonna do it for me, and this weekend, i want to thank you for being with us i'm charles coleman junior in for ayman, i want to thank you ayman, for allowing me to sit in a seat in his amazing team for making my job easy tonight. thank you, tha y thank you to my guests and have a wonderful evening. i'm charles coleman junior, goodnight. evening. i'm charles coleman junior goodnight. goodnight.
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