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are there military tactics impacting israel's stature on the global stage. >> i think there's no question about that. there's a wide swath of public opinion that feels the israeli response has disproportionate. the israelis might put it another way. i think the current estimate of people killed in gaza is something like 22 to 25,000. israel is now saying 9,000 of those are hamas fighters. so that's maybe like a third. to them, they would say that's proportionate, but i think a lot of people around the world think it's been too much. >> michael crowley and former ambassador, thank you both for joining us. and that does it for us today. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. eastern. thanks for being here. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good day. it is noon eastern. 9:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart with you for the next two hours.
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andrea mitchell is on assignment traveling with secretary blinken. right now, countdown to the caucuses. just one week today as the republican candidates for president make their final push in iowa. meanwhile, president biden is on the trail in south carolina where he'll be speaking at mother emanuel church, the scene of the horrific hate crime in 2015. his message today, the hate that fueled the killing of nine worshippers still rages. at the pentagon, demand for answers grows after lloyd austin failed to tell the white house for days that he had been admitted to the icu. and a critical piece of the alaskan airlines flight has been found as it blasted off the plane mid flight, taking passengers' belongings with it. we begin this very busy hour with the race for the white house. we are now just seven days away from the very first primary
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contest of this high stakes election year. the republican iowa caucuses. while there is still time, so far, it's shaping up to be a 2020 rematch between joe biden and donald trump. each with contrasting messages about the future of our democracy. over the weekend, former president trump repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen and called the january 6th insurrection quote patriotic and peaceful. right now, president biden is in south carolina. this hour, he is set to speak at the mother emanuel ame church, the site of the 2015 racist massacre that left nine worships dead. he will warn donald trump is warning on a dangerous message and echo the stakes for the 2024 race. joining us this morning from iowa, nbc news correspondents, vaughn hillyard and ali vitali. gabe gutierrez. also from charleston, south carolina, the dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas.
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she is an msnbc contributor. so, vaughn, trump is boasting confidence ahead of the iowa caucuses. what are we hearing from his campaign? do they think they have it locked down? >> well, donald trump himself declared this weekend that it's going to be a tremendous victory. when you look at polling, jose, it's been pretty steady over the course of the last year. he's looking at a 30-point lead in polling. of course, the caucus is a little different. you've got to show up and turn out. he lost the iowa caucus to ted cruz by several points eight years ago but when you look at the way donald trump is treating iowa, he's slow walking his way to the iowa caucus. if you just look over the last year, compare the number of campaign events for donald trump to ron desantis. the former president just 34. ron desantis, more than 160. and when you look at the week ahead outside of an appearance here on wednesday night for a fox news town hall, he will not be holding a campaign rally in the state of iowa until this weekend right before the iowa caucus. it's notable, you know.
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i asked a campaign official as to why they're not here on the ground. are they putting themselves potentially in jeopardy and you know, that campaign official making the comparison to donald trump and ron desantis. he compared it to a corvette and a rickshaw suggesting when donald trump is here, he draws hundreds of thousands of individuals compared to desantis and the number of events it requires for him to turn out that same number. jose? >> it's interesting because all of the history shows us that iowa really regards presence as an important aspect in the decision they make on the republican side. and yet, i mean, desantis has done all 99 counties and nikki haley has been all over the place. trump has not. >> reporter: right. and for you know, i was talking to carol county gop chairman here just this weekend, jose, and i asked him, i was like, look, donald trump hasn't made
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his way to carol county and he said the rules don't apply to him the way they do to other candidates. it's a matter of whether folks are going to show up. he said the folks that know the caucus is on january 15th are going to show up. when you look at the nbc news des moines register polling, time and again, the most enthusiastic supporters are those donald trump supporters and the campaign tells me they have 1800 precinct captains around the state who are in charge of turning out ten new caucusgoers. if the campaign is actually to have that sort of a turnout, it's hard to see how those other candidates close the gap. come monday, if for some reason, donald trump doesn't have a big win, you could be looking at that reality. he lost to ted cruise eight years ago. he is seeding the ground and also to spend time in mar-a-lago and also the courtrooms. >> ali, and staying with iowa.
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desantis and haley have different strategies. what are you watching for? >> well, i'm so glad that vaughn set the stage that way over in trump world because jose, you're right to point out the fact that iowa typically is a state that does reward being here. pounding the pavement in theory helps you come caucus night and before that in the polls. but what we've seen over the course of this 2024 race is the fact that trump is not only in the lead but has an extremely comfortable lead at that. so it leaves everyone else in this field playing for second place and sort of playing by an old playbook where the rules still do apply to them. they have to go to all of these counties and visit all 99 of them as they can. that adds to their validity in a state like this, but for trump, once again, it's an example of the conventional rules of politics not applying to him or him flaunting them and still
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seeing success. i think when you look here on the ground in iowa, candidates are going to be trying to make their way around the state. for example, nikki haley was supposed to be here in sioux city, iowa this morning, but if you can see out the window behind me, there's a lot of snow coming down here. it is giving iowa in january in the realist way, jose, and so candidates are struggling not just against the polls and the political factors, but they're struggling against the weather. that's going to be something that we keep in mind here as we might be barrelling towards one of the coldest caucuses that we have seen in decades. iowa voters for their part say they're not fazed by cold weather, by snow. they know how this state works but at the same time, for all of these other candidates, turnout is the central vehicle as it always is and caucusing in and of itself is not a short process. it's not like you're walking into a gym, casting a ballot, turning the lever and getting out of there. you have to stay. you have to interact with your neighbors. your cajoling members of your community to come to your chosen
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candidate's cause. there's already a high threshold for participation. bad weather. negative degree temperatures. that could be enough to keep some folks home. the thing i would note, too, in my conversations, vaughn points out that trump voters are enthusiastic. yes. i think what's striking to me is when i spent time at a desantis event yesterday or haley events, voters i meet there who say they're not voting for trump in the iowa caucus, i ask them what happens if it's a trump biden rematch in 2024. they say they'll grudgingly most likely still vote for trump. so you've got to remember at the end of this, everyone comes home to the republican party. at least for the most part. >> yeah. and victoria, let's talk about those two candidates that seem almost tied in iowa. for second place. and we're talking about desantis and nikki haley. if desantis has a poor showing in iowa seems haley is focused on new hampshire. if he has a poor showing in
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iowa, what's his path forward? >> right, jose. so there are two factors here. there's the momentum piece, which i would argue is the more important one. and the money piece. so if ron desantis does not come in second or narrowly comes in second, then that is going to further highlight that narrative that he just doesn't have it. what comes with having that charisma. so i think in terms of that, he may have the resources to keep going forward, but is he going to be able to get those additional resources. it's still a long slog ahead. there's new hampshire, there's south carolina. you've got super tuesday in march. he's going to need a lot of resources and he can't make it on a shoe string budget. really is the key one because that's what also dictates whether you keep getting that money that literally fuels your campaign.
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>> yeah, victoria, you know, vaughn was talking about this and certainly ali as well, about the tradition in iowa. they reward those candidates that spent the most amount of time canvassing those 99 different counties but i'm just wondering how do you see this trump reality 2024 being any different than it was the last time he ran when he is, vaughn says, came in second to the senator from texas? >> now, he's the incumbent president and i say this in air quotes. i think that's the big difference. he comes in with this ridiculous lead and the role of iowa is really being put into question and i want to go back to what vaughn said. you know, traditionally, iowa was about pounding the pavement. we saw that democrats have pretty much abandoned the concept of being first in the nation. republicans have been grabbing
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on to it but i think after this primary, regardless of who wins, most likely will be donald trump, i think republicans are going to be hard pressed to make the case that iowa needs to stay top of the nation because it is that engagement with the voters. that person to person. because we saw that the most likely winner of iowa barely spent any time there. >> i want to go right now to south carolina where we have live pictures from the mother emanuel church. the scene of that horrific crime in 2015. there you see the president of the united states has just arrived and he's at the podium. i know gabe gutierrez is with us from exactly that location. and gabe, as we await the president's words, which we will of course listen to live, this is such an important event that the president has decided to be at. >> most certainly, jose. he just received a standing
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ovation here just a few seconds ago when he arrived. this beautiful choir is singing a rousing event here. it's a hugely significant location as you mentioned. the oldest ame church in the south. it is filled with so much history and also tragedy as well. congregation that was forced to meet in secret during the height of slavery in the 1800s and sadly was the site of that horrific shooting in 2015 where nine black worships were gunned down in a hate crime during bible study. now, the biden campaign is choosing this venue to deliver an emotional speech, continuing his message that what he calls maga extremists led by donald trump pose a threat to democracy. the president is expected to draw a distinction between one candidate who he says wants to preserve democratic norms and another who plans to tear them
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down. the president also set to meet with family members and survivors of that 2015 shooting. this also comes, his trip comes, amid polling that shows the president's support among black voters is waning. we spoke with several that felt his administration has broken some promises. hasn't done enough on student debt relief or police reform, but the biden campaign is pushing back on that saying the trip here to charleston is not from a place of worrying, but rather trying to practice what it preaches and trying to earn the vote of the black community. the campaign also saying it raised $1 million online in the 24 hours following the president's speech on friday. but again, right now, we are awaiting the president who was greeted on the tarmac here by congressman clyburn. clyburn's endorsement in 2020 so pivotal to his win here in south carolina that catapulted him to the nomination. so within a few minutes, we expect the president to address
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this historic church in charleston, jose. >> vaughn hillyard, ali, gabe, and victoria, thank you so very much. a programming note for you today. katy tur hosts special coverage one week out from the iowa caucuses. she'll speak with reporters on the ground to understand the latest on the race. that's today at 2:00 p.m. eastern. 11:00 a.m. pacific here on msnbc. up next, breaking last hour, former president trump claiming he's immune from charges in another case against him. we've got the new details. plus, some top republicans are calling for lloyd austin to resign but what's the white house saying about it? we'll bring you the latest when we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc. watching joset reports on msnbc with a very high risk of another heart attack or stroke. he doesn't know with his risk factors his ldl-c (bad cholesterol) is still too high - the recommended level
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austin for failing to disclose his hospitalization. he was hospitalized on the 1st of january spending four days in the intensive care unit but president biden and other officials weren't notified about it until three days later. this morning, john kirby addressed the controversy on board air force one. >> there is no plans for anything other than for secretary austin to stay in the job and continuing the leadership that he's been exude, that he's been demonstrating. >> joining us now is courtney from the pentagon. also with us, monica alba. so, courtney, how did this happen? this is a major breach of protocol, isn't it? >> yes. the reality is we don't know how this happened. secretary austin, he had this elective procedure on december
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22nd. overnight in the hospital. but then he was released. well fast forward to new year's day. he started experiencing some severe pains according to a defense official and he was taken to the hospital that night. now, the next day, january 2nd, he transferred his responsibilities as secretary of defense to his deputy, kathleen hicks, but she was not told why she was assuming some of the responsibilities of the secretary of defense until two days later on thursday. the same day that jake sullivan, national security adviser, and president biden, other senior officials here in the pentagon and white house were finally informed that secretary austin has been hospitalized. then the public and media, we ren't notified for another 24 hours. what we've also been able to uncover since friday evening when we all found out about this was that secretary austin was in intensive care while he was at walter reed for several of those days. at this point, we still believe he's in the hospital. we're actually expecting an
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update soon to see whether he's actually been released from the hospital. we don't know yet. but we also still don't know anything about the severity of his illness. what caused those complications. what that medical procedure was. and we don't have a good idea of why the white house and senior officials here in the pentagon were not notified that the secretary was hospitalized for about three days, jose. >> courtney, thank you so very much. so, monica, help us understand the white house position on this. it seems extraordinary that the commander in chief would not be informed about his secretary of defense's health issues for days. >> exactly, jose. it is really puzzling and there are officials here who are asking the same questions that we are. trying to get a better picture of what happened, what led to this massive communication breakdown but so far, we understand that the president really still has full trust and full confidence in his defense
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secretary. according to administration officials that we've been speaking to, right now, the president isn't even considering letting him go or replacing him. he wants to see him make a full recovery and then return to the pentagon whenever that is possible. so this isn't something right now where at least with the details that have come out at this point, where they are considering making any changes from a personnel perspective, but the white house is speaking out today saying certainly it will be up to the pentagon to review everything that happened here. do a little bit of a review in terms of what is known as what could have been done better. identify mistakes that were clearly made. so they are saying here by looking in the rear view, they clearly wish something would have happened on a different timeline but they're not saying anything right now amounts to trying to take into consideration whether the secretary should still have his critical job but remember, jose, last week, there were so many things happening politically and of course, in terms of conflict
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potentially that there were so many questions raised as well about some kind of responses the biden administration was weighing in the middle east and that's something that given now we know that the defense secretary was in the icu, the president will likely still want more information on how that all happened without his knowledge until the following day. jose? >> monica alba, thank you so very much. we have breaking news on the investigation surrounding former president trump. this morning, the former president's attorneys in georgia asked the judge to dismiss charges against them in the fulton county election interference case. trump attorneys are claiming presidential immunity, due process, and double jeopardy protections. with us now, nbc news correspondent, blaine alexander in atlanta and lisa rubin. so, what's the former president arguing in these new motions? >> well, jose, a couple of things stand out. one, that this is certainly and the entire time we've been covering this case, this is the most extensive filing we've seen
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from trump's defense team here in georgia. and certainly the most vigorous defense. and so they're really breaking it down, citing three reasons why these charges should be dismissed here in fulton county. let's start with presidential immunity. that's kind of the overarching claim basically saying all of his alleged actions fall under the scope of his actions as president of the united states and therefore, he shouldn't be charged for it. now, of course, we know this isn't a new argument from the former president. he's arguing in d.c., now he's trying to argue it here in georgia. so it will be interesting to see how a judge here in georgia rules on that. but the two other reasons they're citing one, saying due process and basically that he never even got a heads up that what he was allegedly doing would have been considered illegal. his attorneys saying that none of the alleged actions had ever been charged criminally before and so there was no reason to expect that he would think that the actions were illegal. and the third is citing double jeopardy. basically saying his impeachment
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trial went through congress and he was acquitted, he shouldn't be tried for the se act. i reached out to his attorney in georgia. he sent me a statement basically saying this. president trump today has filed three persuasive motions seeking a complete dismissal of the inindictment to the fulton county d.a.'s politically based prosecution. reached out to the d.a.'s office. they're declining to comment on this as well. but this comes in the context of the d.a.'s office wanting to start this trial in august. trump's attorneys had previously pushed back on that saying it would amount to essentially election interference saing that because it would come in the final week of the 2024 campaign and likely stretch through election day, they want to see that trial date moved, jose. >> thank you so much. lisa, what do you make of these new motions? >> jose, in some respects, this is much adieu about nothing in so far as these are arguments
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that we've largely seen before. specifically where it comes to presidential immunity and the double jeopardy argument. it's part and parcel of the president's immunity claims in the federal case. however, she is right to say this is the most substantive filing we've seen in the georgia case and that's because today, january 8th, is a deadline in that georgia case for pretrial moekss for remaining defendants. that includes former president trump. >> these motions come as the former president is set the appear tomorrow in a washington, d.c. courtroom. his lawyers argue he has absolute immunity from the federal election interference charges there because he was still president at the time the alleged crimes occurred. what could a ruling in this case have on the georgia case? >> depending on how broadly that argument is dealt with by the d.c. circuit, it certainly would have influence on it but it won't be binding on a georgia
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state court. that would require that case going up, jose, to the united states supreme court. and again, there, if the united states supreme court says there is no immunity from criminal prosecution for a former or even current president who exceeds the boundaries of their duties with respect to the conduct with which they've been criminally charged, then, i think, you have an argument that it's not only influnable, but it will be binding on the judge. >> just trying to keep track of all of the different cases the former president is dealing with. on thursday, clorguments are expected in trump's new york civil fraud trial james filed a motion asking the judge to fine the trump organization $370 million. more than the $250 million originally estimate. she also wants to ban trump and two former executives from the real estate industry in new
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york. trump denying any wrong doing in this case. how did the attorney general's office get to the $370 million figure? >> well, let's start, jose, with the premise that this isn't just an ordinary fine. the relief that they're requesting is something called disgorgement. it's essentially the attorney general saying to the court, we want to claw back money that the former president and his companies and other defendants made that are essentially ill gotten gains here. so it's everything from a calculation of the interest that he saved on loans by defrauding his lenders. to things like the $2.5 million that he paid in severance to jeff mcconnie and allen weisselberg. it also includes over $150 million in proceeds from the sale of the lease of the old post office in d.c. where the trump international hotel was situated and the
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president and his children famously sold that lease after he left office. >> late last week, the u.s. supreme court said it would take up trump's appeal of the colorado supreme court decision taking him off the ballot. what will the supreme court be looking at when it considers this appeal? >> i think the supreme court is going to be looking at a bunch of legal issues and specifically, most importantly, the text, structure and history surrounding section three of the 14th amendment. that's what allowed the colorado district court initially and then ultimately the colorado supreme court to decide that trump needed to be disqualified. there are a number of different arguments that the former president has made. some more persuasively than others, that this wasn't designed to apply to him. either because it doesn't apply to presidents or because it's not what legal scholars would say is self-executing. that it requires an act of congress. it remains to be seen what the supreme court will do. i know we'll talk about again
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when that comes before the court. >> we will, indeed, but it's always so great to get the understanding that you can give us. great seeing you. >> thanks. up next, passengers said they thought, they really thought they were going to die after a door sized piece of their alaskan airlines plane literally flew off at about 16,000 feet. new details on the investigation. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc. watching joset reports on msnbc ♪when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion♪ ♪upset stomach, diarrhea♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief when you need it most. when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd things changed for me. breztri gave me better breathing, symptom improvement, and reduced flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis.
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new details and a key discovery in the investigation into that alaska airlines plane that lost a door plug which covered unused emergency exit, leaving behind a huge hole. the missing door plug that detached from the jet was found yesterday in the backyard of an oregon teacher, federal officials said. investigators were scheduled to pick it up just hours ago. the faa has grounded 171 737 max 9 jets forcing alaska airlines and united to cancel hundreds of flights. joining us now is tom costello and jeff. tom, what do we know about how this whole thing happened? >> can i just quickly bring you the breaking news off the top here and that is the following. the faa just putting out a
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statement essentially saying that the max 9s will remain grounded until they are all inspected and fixed. 171 planes between alaska airlines and united. i'm going to read, quote, boeing 737 9 aircraft will remain grounded until operators complete enhanced inspections which include both left and right cabin door exit plugs, components, fasteners. they must also complete corrective actions as required be i the faa. now the various airlines have received the orders and the directions on how to inspect these door plugs looking for any potential issues like the one that we experienced on friday night on that flight coming from portland down to california. it probably takes in the neighborhood of four to five, six hours to inspect each individual door plug, looking for any potential problems. then the corrective action, of
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course, might take even longer that than that. but because of we have 171 planes grounded, united and alaska airlines planes, that has resulted in hundreds of flight cancellations across the country. i just yesterday was trying to fly across the country. i couldn't do that. couldn't get from point a to b quickly and a lot of families are experiencing a similar problem. thankfully nobody was injured on this incident. nobody was sitting in the two seats near the hole that opened up. they were at 14,400 feet. managed to land safely in portland but it was a close call and the concern was if it happened at a higher altitude, it could have been catastrophic. >> indeed. it's just scary. jeff, two max 8 jets crashed in
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2018, 2019, killing 346. they were grounded for about two years after that. how different are these two models? the 8 and 9? >> not that much different. they both involve mcas but that's been fixed now. the 9 has a fuselage plug. it's slightly larger than the 8 and because of that plug, it has this whole door plug issue. so it's the same type of airplane but the problems are very different. >> jeff, what is a fuselage plug and what does it do? >> basically, boeing extended the 737 to allow for more seats for airlines that liked the fuel efficiency of the max. a plug is an additional part of the fuselage barrel to lengthen it so you can put in more seats.
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>> how long are these disruptions expected to last? >> at least through week and maybe longer but i think you just touched on something critical. the big question right now is does boeing have a bigger, broader problem. beyond this one single plane. first of all, is there a problem with the max 9 fleet? we don't know that answer yet, but is there a problem? second of all, how is it possible that one of the chief and best engineering companies in the history of the world has had a series of very high profile failures? we talked about those two max 8s killed so many people overseas. the 787 has had problems. they've had problems with their military planes. they still haven't gotten their starship or star liner up to the space station. and now we've got the max 9. this is a company that has really been under the microscope. they promised they were going to do better, the faa promised more oversight and yet, here we are with a very serious blowout they
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experienced on friday night. >> indeed, it was serious. i thank you both so much. really appreciate it. up next, why some republicans are vehemently against the new spending deal proposed by their own leadership with just ten days until the deadline to avert a partial government shutdown. plus, what president biden is now asking mexico to do to help ease the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc. watching joset reports on msnbc ] 579 breaths to show 'em your stuff. every breath matters. don't let rsv take your breath away. protect yourself from rsv... ...with abrysvo, pfizer's rsv vaccine. abrysvo is a vaccine for the prevention of lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious if you are 60 or older. having asthma, copd, diabetes, or heart disease puts you at even higher risk. abrysvo is not for everyone and may not protect all who receive the vaccine.
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congressional leaders have reached a deal on spending as the deadline approaches. lawmakers are set to return to washington tomorrow. joining us now, julie. great seeing you. how will house republicans react to this deal and how optimistic are lawmakers about the possibility of reaching a deal on border security, plus ukraine and israel? >> yeah, jose, those are two separate issues that could come under the same deadline of january 19th because there isn't enough time to consider these things separately. but the fact this agreement was reached on a top line number when it comes to spending -- >> julie, i'm sorry to interrupt. i want to go right to south carolina. president biden speaking at the mother emanuel ame church. >> thank you.
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i rest my case. thank you. please. thank you. >> four more years! four more years! >> thank you. >> four more years! four more years! four more years! >> thank you, thank you, thank you. >> four more years! >> thank you. thank you. this is going to go to my head. please. thank you. jim, you know, just say one thing about what jim has been talking about. that confuses me about our republican friends sometimes. maga republicans. every one of the things that jim mentioned saves the american taxpayer billions of dollars.
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realize if you have a prescription drug from in major drug company in america, i can take you to toronto, canada, london, rome, any major capital in the world and buy the same exact drug for sometimes half the price that you get here. look, folks. when the federal government through medicare doesn't have to pay out as much money, it means taxpayers pay less money. because you fund the federal government. you fund medicare. go down every one of these things. always confused me. they talk about being rational. just about excess profit. at any rate, i don't want to get carried away. i don't quite get these guys. thank you, jim, for your friendship and above all, for your fellowship. and bishop crane, thank you for those kind words and thank you,
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reverend manning, for you know, shepherding this house and allowing me to stand at this podium. and all the faithful of mother emanuel and distinguished guests. i was talking downstairs, i've spent more time in the bethel ame church than most people i know, black or white, have spent in that church. i started civil rights movement. 7:30 mass. 10:00 services. the reverend is now the bishop. she's a bishop and i told your bishop had been there before in south africa. that's where he is right now. point is that i've been blessed to worship here before as well. you know, you know, at moments of joy and great joy and moment
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of great pain. moments of unbearable loss. on june 17th, 2015, the beautiful souls, five survivors and five survivors, invited a stranger to enter this church to pray with them. the word of god was pierced by bullets and hate and rage. propelled by not just gun powder, but by a poison. poison that's for too long haunted this nation. but what is that poison? white supremacy. it's a poison. throughout our history. it's ripped this nation apart. this has no place in america. not today, tomorrow, or ever. from that day, this nation saw this congregation, this community, demonstrate one of the greatest acts of strength i have ever seen.
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i mean it sincerely from the bottom of my -- act of forgiveness. the act of grace. it was as president obama sang from here amazing grace. it changed hearts. it did something. it may not have happened but for your courage. you brought down the confederate flag in south carolina. you brought it down. you did. and you helped the nation heal. you showed what america can overcome. what we can be when we want to be something. i'm deeply humbled to speak from this same pulpit my friend, he was a friend, reverend pinkman, spoke from. we all miss him. not more than his family and this congregation, but just as all the families of the emanuel nine miss the pieces of their soul that they lost that day.
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we also have been together at moments of unbearable loss for my family. two days after the service of the reverend, my surviving son and i came back. my family worshipped with you sunday service to show our solidarity. but my family also needed to be healed. we didn't realize how badly. 22 days before we buried my son, beau. a veteran because of the burn pits in iraq for a year. we were -- we were in more pain than we knew. we came here to offer comfort. and received comfort from you. no, i'm serious. as i listened in the pews, spent time with the families, visited the reverend's office, visited the memorial for victims outside. i grew stronger.
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i saw my family grow stronger. we prayed together. we read together. we found hope together, for real. for real. and it reminds me that through our pain, each of us, each of us must find purpose. for me, that purpose was living a life worthy of my son, beau. i mean it sincerely. for you, that purpose is for the lives worthy of loved ones lost to make them proud. so many of you were there for us during that loss. including my dear friend jim and emily. people of deep faith. jim, a great public servant. best friend you could ever have. thanking emily today, talked about it downstairs a bit. i know you do every day.
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she was special. and that bond you shared was something to behold. as many of you know, jim is a teacher and a student of history. he knows the power of history. he knows the power of truth. and the power of lies. he knows what happens when people are allowed to whitewash history, erase history, bury history. he knows what the bible teaches. we shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free, but the truth, the truth is under assault in america. as a consequence, so is our freedom, our democracy, our very country because without the truth, there's no light. there' from this darkness. >> if you really care about the lives lost, you should honor the lives lost in palestine. >> cease-fire now! >> cease-fire now!
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>> that's all right. that's all right. >> cease-fire now! cease-fire now! cease-fire now! [ shouting ]. >> four more years! four more years! four more years! four more are years! four more years! four more years! >> thank you.
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thank you. thank you. look, folks. i understand their passion and i've been quietly working -- quietly working with the israeli government to get them to reduce and significantly get out of gaza. using all i can to do that. [ applause ] but i understand the passion. look, folks -- >> -- they don't realize that. you're a good man! [ cheers and applause ] look, after the civil war the defeated confederates couldn't accept the verdict of the war. they had lost. so they say -- they embrace
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what's known as the lost cause, a self-serving lie that the civil war is not about slavery, but about state's rights. they call that the noble cause. that was a lie, a lie that had not just a lie, but terrible consequences, brought on jim crow. let me be clear for those who don't seem to know, slavery was the cause of the civil war. there's no negotiation about that. now, now we're living in an era of a second lost cause. once again, there are some in this country trying to turn a loss into a lie, a lie which, if allowed to live, will once again bring terrible damage to this country. this time the lie is about the 2020 election, the election which you made your voices heard and your power known.
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just two days ago we marked the third anniversary of one of the darkest days in american history, january 6th. a day in which insurrectionists stormed the u.s. capitol, trying for the first time in american history to stop the peaceful transfer of power in the country. we all saw with our own eyes the truth of what happened, that violent mop was wind up by lies from a defeated president. rank sag offices. inside they hunted for nancy pelosi chanting "where's nancy?" we saw something on january 6th we'd never seen before, even during the civil war. insurrectionists waved flags, a mab attacked and called black officers, black veterans, defending the nation, those vial
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and racist names. yet an extreme movement of america, the maga republicans led by a defeated president is trying to steal history now. they tried to steal an election, now they're trying to steal history telling that violent moeb was, and i quote, a peaceful protests. the insurrectionists were, quote, patriots, that there was, quote, a lot of love that day. in fact, the rest of the nation and the world saw a lot of hate and violence. for hours the former president sat in a private dining room and did nothing, absolutely nothing. his actions were among the worst derelictions of duty by any president in american history. an attempt to overturn a free and fair election by force and violence.
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let me say what others cannot. we must reject political violence in america always. not sometimes, always. it's never appropriate. the violence of january 6th was an extension of an old playbook from the threats and violence and intimidation. atlanta, georgia, two brave black women, mother and daughter, ruby freeman and shaye moss had their lives upended just doing their jobs. menacing calls, death threats, forcing them to literally flee their homes. those pushing the big lie have a conspiracy theory that outweighs them all. here is the fact. there is where we don't have facts -- their theory has no facts, no proof, no evidence. that's why time and again they lost in every court of law and challenged 60 losses in courts
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of america. they don't have respect for the 81 million people who voted the other way, voted for my candidacy and voted to end the presidency. in their world these americans, including you, don't count. that's not the real world. that's not democracy. that's not america. in america we all count. in america we witness to serve all those who, in fact, participate, and losers are taught to concede when they lose. he's a loser. [ cheers and applause ] we all came together. the lies that led to january 6th are part of a broader attack on
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america today that we all have seen before, the same movement that the mob was trying to not only -- were trying to erase history and your future. banning books, denying your right to vote and have it counted, destroying diversity, equality, inclusion all across america, harboring hate and replacing hope with anger and resentment and a dangerous view of america. that narrow view of america, zero-sum view of america that says, if you win, i lose. if you succeed, it must be i failed. if you get ahead, i fall behind, and maybe worst of all, if i hold you down, i lift myself up. that's not new in america. every stride forward has often
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been met with ferocious backlashes, from those who fear the progress, from those who exploit that fear from their own personal gain, from those who traffic in lies told for profit and power. but here in charleston, you know the power of truth. less than a mile from here was launched support for almost half of all enslaved americans were trafficked to north america and forced on our shores. now we have a world-class museum there to tell the truth about the original sin. [ applause ] and it matters. with your help i made june
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teenth the first federal holiday since dr. martin luther king day. why? because the truth matters. the truth matters. with your help, we established the national monument in honor of mamie and emmett till because we heard mrs. till's call, the mother of a 14-year-old son who was lynched and whose body was mutilated. but the mother insisted on a open casket at his funeral because she said, let the world see what i saw. the truth matters. it always matters. we can't just choose to learn what we want to know and not what we should know. we should know the good, the bad, the truth of who we are. that's what great nations do. we're the greatest of all nations.
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