teenth the first federal holiday since dr. martin luther king day. why? because the truth matters. the truth matters. with your help, we established the national monument in honor of mamie and emmett till because we heard mrs. till's call, the mother of a 14-year-old son who was lynched and whose body was mutilated. but the mother insisted on a open casket at his funeral because she said, let the world see what i saw. the truth matters. it always matters. we can't just choose to learn what we want to know and not what we should know. we should know the good, the bad, the truth of who we are. that's what great nations do. we're the greatest of all nations. we're not perfect.

at our best, we learn from our past and we look to the future. a nation continuously striving to be a more perfect union. i'm here to speak to another truth. it's because of this congregation and the black community of south carolina, and not an exaggeration, jim clyburn, that i stand here today as your president because of all of you. that's a fact, and i owe you. i've done my best to honor your trust. that means rejecting the small, narrow, cramped view of america as well as lifting up a bigger and broader view of america that holds that, if you do well, i do well, we all do well.

when our freedoms are protected, we deny hate is a safe harbor where everyone is a fair shot at a life of dignity and opportunity and where our democracy works for everybody. it benefits everybody. i don't get these guys. everybody does better. even those folks who disagree with us. i'm keeping my commitment to you. that's the america we're building together instead of erasing history, we're making history. it starts with the administration i committed to. i said my administration would look like america, taps into our full talents and strengths as a nation, starting with our incredible vice president kamala harris. when we came to office the

country was in the midst of a pandemic where we lost over 1,200,000 people. with the economy on the brink we sent $1400 checks into the pockets of people hurting badly to keep them going. i said we'd invest in all of america. and we are. results are clear. over 14 million new jobs, record economic growth, lowest inflation rate of any major economy in the world. we have more to do. we see this progress for all mayor. more black americans have health insurance than ever bringing peace of mind and dignity to their lives. i remember when i was a kid, we lived in a three bedroom house with four kids and a grand pop.

my head board was up against a split level home. we weren't poor. we sure weren't wealthy. i remember hearing my dad restless. i asked my mom the next morning, i said what's the matter with dad. she said, honey, they're dropping health insurance. what that does is deprives a man and woman of their dignity. how do you look at your child and say i can't cover you. i can't take care of you. setting aside $400 a month for seniors with diabetes, now paying $35 a month. still making a profit three times. it costs $10 to make it.

taking on big pharma, finally beat them. finally, finally, finally. negotiating prices for everybody, not just for seniors. again, saves the american taxpayers billions of dollars, not having to pay pharma for these things. we're growing black wealth. a lot more to do in the racial wealth gap, it's the smallest it's been in 20 years under my watch. more black small businesses starting up, then decades. taking on housing discrimination in many ways. a home loan by today, a home loan by a black family on one side of the highway built by the same builder on the other side of the highway, the white guy's home is valued more than the

black guys. i know you know it. guess what what defending your freedom to choose while keeping our commitment, providing incredible opportunities, making historic investments in hbcus, $7 billion. they're just as good as other universities, but don't have the billion dollar contributors, can't put the labs together, design the new aircrafts, it's changing, it's changing. providing people the real shot by reducing the burden of student debt. $132 billion, 3.6 million

people, significant percentage of those students are african american students. despite our friends on the other side of the table and the supreme court who did everything we can. replacing every single lead pipe in america will be taken out. it is a mostly poor neighborhoods where those pipes are. that's where kids end up with brain damage because of the lead. you can turn on the faucet if you're a child and doesn't get sick from drinking water when you come into a home. delivering high-speed internet that's affordable for everybody, everybody. so you don't have to sit in mcdonald's parking lot with a child to do homework, producing clean energy so you can finally breathe clean air without leaving home. look, i understand it. we moved from scranton, i was

raised in delaware, more major refineries than any place including houston, texas. i grew up with asthma. most of us did because of the prevailing winds. my mom would drive us to school in the morning, when there wasn't frost, turn on the wipers and there was an oil slick. not on my watch. it's changing. we know there's more to do, making child care and elder care more affordable which would save american taxpayers billions along the way. early in my administration we cut child poverty in half, black child poverty in half. by getting families checks every month through the child care tax credit. the other side balked. we're going to get it back. we're going to come back. no child in america should ever go to bed hungry, period,

period, period, period. [ applause ] >> after historic movement for justice in the summer of 2020, i signed the most significant police reform executive order in history. we didn't get the law passed. guess what? i did it by executive order. now congress has to step up and ask and do what i did and make it the law of the land. just a few days ago, the defeated former president was asked about the recent shooting in iowa. did you hear this one? it's hard to believe. you know what his response was? all those kids dead. we have to get over it. i promise you. you have to get over it. my response is we have to stop

it! so your children, your family, your friends can leave your home, walk the streets, go to stores, go to the grocery store and go to church to be safe from gun violence. there's no excuse for this carnage. we have to ban assault weapons. i did it once before, and i'm going to come back again and do it. ban high-capacity magazines. we have to pass universal background checks. it doesn't violate the second amendment. it's common sense and saves lives. i'm determined to continue to deliver on equal justice. i made a commitment to you to nominate the first black woman and jim has already talked about it, on the supreme court, by the way, she's smarter than the rest of those guys. her name is ketanji brown jackson. guess what? she knows what she's doing.

by the way, as jim pointed out, more black women have been appointed to the federal circuit courts than every other president in american history some time. we're going keep going. look, i'm going to make it clear. you all made this possible. because of your voice, your voice was heard in shaping your destiny. that's democracy. i'm proud to have led the effort to make sure your voice, the south carolina voice will always be heard because now you're first in the primary. look, our north star as a nation is the very idea that an american, an idea, that once the most simple and powerful idea in

the world, not hyperbole but fact, we're all created in the image of god equally. we deserve to be treated equally in our lives. that's a covenant we've never fully lived up to, never fully walked away from either. faith in history teach us that how ever dark the night, joy come meth in the morning, and that joy comes with commands from scripture love the lord thy god with all my soul. love thy neighbor as thyself. it's hard. that's the essence of the gospel and the essence of the american promise. in my life, i've tried to live my faith. i have many times failed, but i have learned, as many of you might have learned in your path as well, we're all imperfect

beings. we don't know where fate will take us or when, but we can do our best to seek a life of light, hope, love and justice and truth. folks, let me close with this. denmark bessie arrived in charleston enslaved, one of too many from distant shores on a painful journey, not to a promise land, but a land that promised to deprive them of freedom. even though they arrived in the land with a life of pain and persecution, they still believed they had promise. the black church kept them moving. they had faith. they found scripture. faith is a substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen. vesey had his kind of faith. he became a carpenter and a

movement leader. concerned with the least among us. that's why he helped found this very church 200 years ago. only 40 years after the declaration of independence, and this church, your church now, the black church has come to similar bowl lies the faith and this purpose, to bare witness to those who are suffering, and bring the good news of a future to come, to follow its mission to be the light in the pathway of darkness. that's patriotism. that's patriotism, to love something so much, we make it better no matter the struggle. a patriotism that inspired generation before us to believe that in america we can do and be anything we want to be. in our time, there's still the old ghost of new garments. we all need to rise to meet the

moment. the moment is now. folks, my fellow americans, this is a time of choosing. so let us choose the truth. let us choose america. i know we can do it together and as the gospel song sings, we've come too far from where we started. noble told me the road would be easy. i don't believe he brought me this far to leave me. my fellow americans, i don't think the good lord brought us this far to leave us behind. may god bless you all and may god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you. [ cheers and applause ] as we approach 15 past the hour, we continue in south carolina where president biden just wrapped up a speech about the fragility of the american democracy and the threat of

political violence at mother emanuel church, a venue his campaign team believes send a powerful message of healing following the unimaginable horror after a white supremacist shot and killed nine people at the historically black church in 2015. >> the word of god was pierced by bullets of hate and rage, propelled by not just gunpowder, but by a poison, a poison that has for too long haunted this nation. what is that poison? white supremacy. nbc news senior white house correspondent gabe gutierrez is reporting from charleston. also princeton university professor and msnbc analyst eddie glaude who met with the president earlier last week. gabe, this is such a powerful and important site to deliver this speech.

what does the president want people to remember today? >> reporter: hey there, jose. it was a forceful speech, an emotional speech. as you said, it was one that focused largely on several themes including truth and also history. that was part of the reason his campaign chose this venue which, as you said, was the site of the horrible massacre in 2019 where nine black worshippers were killed. it was also the site during the 1800s at the height of slavery this congregation was forced to meet in secret. the president today saying this election is a choice between lies and truth essentially, calling out the former president's supporters on january 6th who did not want to accept election results. he forcefully called donald trump a loser. he said a lot was at stake in this election. let's play some of what he said about truth. >> we shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free.

but the truth, the truth is under assault in america. as a consequence so is our freedom, our democracy, our very country because without the truth there's no light. wrout light there's no path from this darkness. >> reporter: jose, the president said unlike his opponent, his campaign, instead of erasing history, we're making history. i should point out the president lps got emotional when discussing the death of his son beau, several people in the audience yelled out "it's okay." there was also a moment during the speech that showed some of the deep divisions within the democratic party right now. there were at least two protesters that shouted in the middle of the speech talking about that they wanted the president to call for a cease-fire in the israel-hamas war. at least five protesters were escorted out. the president trying to make his case, that he was in talks with

israel to get out of gaza. certainly this was a speech where the president and also the man who introduced him, congressman jim clyburn, trying to make the case to the black community here. he mentioned several specific examples that the administration has done, has pushed through in order to help this community in particular, including the inflation reduction act which he said allowed medicare to negotiate for the price of prescription drugs. this on many levels was a high-stakes speech where he talked in broad thems, trying to establish a clear choice between what he says the former president stands behind, which is lies, essentially, and his campaign which is standing by truth. it remains to be seen whether that message will resonate with voters here in south carolina and across the country, but this is the latest example of president biden really sticking with that message as this campaign year gets under way, pointing out what he sees as existential threats to democracy

led by maga extremists and donald trump. jose. die,o much to talk to you about. president biden is the first sitting president to deliver a campaign speech at mother emanuel. "the new york times" writes, mr. biden will speak as president in the creaky old sanctuary itself, backed by touring stained glass. one of the messages being that the same hate that plagued this church is still here. how do we address this level of hate our country is facing? >> i think, jose, it requires a kind of honest confrontation. the president invoked the lost cause, and he called our moment the second lost cause. what's so distinctive about that, that effort, that ideological movement was all about denying the reality of what broke the country apart, what tore the country apart, and that is the reality of slavery,

the reality of white supremacy. here we are in a moment where we don't want to tell ourselves the truth. some of us have fallen privy to the siren song of the big lie and we stand on the pris miss of losing our very democracy. i thought the president tried to do a good job. i say this as someone who talked with him. so you have to filter my comments to someone who actually had conversations with the president around this issue, trying to set the stage. this is the choice that has to be made. either you're for democracy or you're not. either you believe the truth or you don't. we have to move from there. >> so obviously not asking you to divulge anything that was very private and profound conversation no doubt. what is it, eddie, that he feels the need to convey? and what is it that you felt you were able to convey to him? >> like you said, jose, i don't

want to get into the particulars. i want to honor the conversation, the privacy of the conversation. i know what i felt. what i feel is this is a time of choosing. this is a moment in which the nation has to in some ways -- what's the phrase he used. we have to confront the old ghost in new garments. we have to confront the old ghost in new garments. that really requires in so many ways understanding that this american experiment stands on the precipice, on the edge. and we have to understand why. i think telling that story forcefully, understanding that genuine justice, genuine equality, genuine democracy is not a zero-sum game. that's the president's language. it's not a zero-sum game. jose, he has to confront the contention, the contradictions, the conflict. those were young people who protested. you saw those folk, those five students who jumped up, the five young folk. there are deep divisions. trying to hold the nation to account to its promise and its

principles. we have a lot of work to do. >> i will tell you, eddie, i like your thoughts on that. there was a moment of a protest group interrupting the president of the united states. if you talk about that outside of where it happened, it would be normal and, quite frankly, it's one of the privileges of a democracy that you are able to speak to power. , anywhere but at this place. eddie, i want you to give us a context, historical and spiritual about mother emanuel ame church. is that a place where political divisions and even confrontations of ideological thought is to be held? >> absolutely, jose. it's a place for prophetic speech. remember prophetic speech aims to speak truth to power. when we think about the history

of the black church, you think about those overturned kettle pots, the hush harbors where people had to worship outside the view of the slave master. it's in those spaces where a certain sense of the self could be imagined, a certain understanding of the self apart from the conditions and brutality of slavery could be constructed. of course in this space, the solemnity of it, the power of grace, in this space it makes sense that young folk would engage in prophetic speech. it's actually consistent with it. but unlike the other side that wants folk to get beat up and thrown out of the jail, this particular moment gives space for it, understand the motivation for it and try to address the contradictions at the heart of the critique as best as one can. >> how important to talk about at one time people's need to have a sense of self could only

be imagined. there are much of those needs that continue today. eddie glaude, it's always a pleasure. i thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, jose. take care. >> take care. breaking news, tanya chutkan, the judge overseeing donald trump's election interference case appears to be the victim of an attempting swatting attack. ryan, what happened? >> essentially last night police and firefighters showed up to what turned out to be a false -- seen of a false report of a shooting that ended up being judge chutkan's home. we're obviously not saying the exact address, but it is in d.c. the law enforcement source confirmed that judge chutkan was, in fact, home when this incident took place. this is kind of a little bit of a pre disabilitiable circumstance here. you have so many of these attacks on the judge and obviously it's happened to prominent figures before who are

targeted by supporters of donald trump. you have incidents happen like this again and again. judge chutkan has already faced threats. a woman is being prosecuted for making threats to her chambers. she's gotten a lot of attention in connection with this ongoing case. this case could ultimately go back to her. stroe the appeals court is taking up the hearing on presidential immunity. if the judges in that case deny trump's claims of presidential immunity, then judge chutkan will get this case right back. it's still set for march, although that date could slip given the proceedings happening in the federal appeals court. >> ryan reilly, thank you so very much. next, new details on the secret hospital stay at the highest levels of the u.s. military that even the president was not told initially about. the fallout. we're back in just 60 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose

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27 past the hour. let's go right to saudi arabia. secretary of state blinken speaking. >> to do everything possible to prevent a widening of the conflict. we also talked about the future of this region. i think there's a agreement on a few objectives, first that israel should be able to live in peace and security, free from the fear of terrorist attacks or aggression from any of their neighbors. second, that the best bank in gaza should be united under palestinian-led governance. third, the future of the region needs to be one of integration, not division and not conflict, and fourth, for that to happen,

we need to see the establishment of an independent palestinian state. now, no one i talked to thinks any of this will be easy. all recognize the hurdles and no one thinks that anything will happen overnight. but we agreed to work together and to coordinate our efforts to help gaza stabilize and recover, to chart a political path forward for the palestinians and to work toward long-term peace, security and stability in the region as a whole. i also found across the board that the countries we visited, the leaders we spent time with, are prepared to make the necessary commitments, to make the hard decisions to advance all of these objectives, to advance this vision for the region. we're heading now to israel where we'll have an opportunity to share with israeli leaders everything i've heard thus far on this trip and also to talk to

them about the future direction of their military campaign in gaza. i will press on the absolute imperative to do more to protect civilians and make sure humanitarian assistance is getting into the hands who need it. we'll also, of course, focus on our relentless efforts to bring back hostages, americans, israelis and others. and we'll talk about how we see the future for the region and for israel. i'm convinced that there is a future path that can actually bring lasting peace and security for israel, that can ensure that october 7th never happens again, and that can bring the region together, that can meet the aspirations of the palestinian people and do it in a way that makes this a region focused on the future, not on the

challenges of the past. with that, i'm happy to take a couple of questions. >> secretary, your trip is partly about trying to prevent a wider war. israel has killed two hezbollah leaders within a week. what does that say about u.s. leverage over israel? and doesn't that risk a second front? the qatari prime minister yesterday said military strikes against the houthis were not the best option and he preferred diplomacy since the military strikes would raise regional tensions. what message are you giving to arab partners in the region about u.s. and coalition efforts and intentions toward potential military strikes in yemen? >> first, with regard to lebanon, it's clearly not in the interest of anyone, israel, lebanon, hezbollah for that matter, to see this escalate and to see an actual conflict. the israelis have been very clear with us that they want to find a diplomatic way forward, a way forward that creates the

kind of security that allows israelis to return home. nearly 100,000 israelis have been forced to leave their homes in northern israel because of the threat coming from hezbollah in lebanon, but also allows lebanese to return to their homes in southern lebanon. we're working intensely on that effort and doing so diplomatically. second, with regard to the red sea, the international community as a whole faces a challenge. these attacks, consistent attacks by the houthis on international shipping are a threat to everyone. we talked about this yesterday. you've got about 15% of the world's commerce every day going through that strait, going through the red sea. these attacks are having a real effect on the prices people have to pay for food, energy, medicine. insurance rates go up, and the basic principle of freedom of navigation is what's at stake. so the international community has a real stake in upholding

that principle. as i've said, we've had 40 countries come together to make clear that what the houthis are doing has to stop. we've had other countries that have made it clear that, if it continues, there have to be consequences. our strong view, our strong preference is that the houthis get the message that they're receiving from countries around the world that this needs to stop. that's what we're focused on. >> before the october 7th attacks you and other aides to president biden were trying to pursue the idea of saudi/israel normalization. that's become -- it seems that's become much more difficult in light of the attacks, given the animus on different sides now. you still want to pursue that because it might be one way for -- to get israel to recognize the aspirations of the palestinians. what did crown prince mohammed tell you today about the

prospects for normalization? what conditions is he looking for to reach normalization and what do you think the israel and the u.s. have to put forward to reach an agreement? secondly, wouldn't crown prince mohammed and mbz tell you today about what they're willing to do in a post-war state in gaza? >> so the second part of the question first. what i've done on virtually every stop, was a willingness of all the countries involved to do important things to help gaza stabilize and revitalize. i heard that in every place. one of the things that we're going to be working on together is just what that would require and just what countries specifically are prepared to do. but that was a pretty constant theme. with regard to integration, to

normalization, yes, we talked about that actually on every stop, including here in saudi arabia. i can tell you this. there's a clear interest here in pursuing that, a clear interest in the region in pursuing that. but it will require that the conflict end in gaza, and it will also clearly require that there be a practical pathway to a palestinian state. this is what i heard from everyone we talked to about it. but the interest is there. it's real, and it could be transformative. thanks everyone. >> well, there we saw and heard from the secretary of state as he gets ready to leave saudi arabia at 9:34 their time, heading to israel. as a matter of fact, nbc's richard engel is in jerusalem at

this hour. richard, let's talk a little bit about what the secretary of state was talking about, the issue of whether saudi arabia has to play such a significant role in anything going forward, could have a still continuing interest in having essentially at the end of the road relations with israel, but there are a lot of issues still to be determined. >> reporter: so it's good to be back with you, jose. i think we heard an important statement from secretary blinken just now. he laid out a four-point plan to ending this conflict as he has heard in the region. secretary blinken has been traveling in the middle east, he's been traveling in saudi arabia, united arab emirates, qatar before that. he's going to go to egypt later. he's been to jordan as well. he's going to all the countries around israel, countries that have a vested interest in stability here, and he's been

listening to what they have been saying. now he's going to come to israel and try and push this agenda forward. he laid out this four-point plan which was interesting. he said that there should be a single palestinian government. he said all the voices that he's heard from have said that there should be one single palestinian government in the west bank and gaza. right now there is hamas in the gaza strip. hamas carried out the october 7th massacre, lost its legitimacy. to have one government strongly suggest it would be one government that is not hama, potentially the newly revitalized palestinian authority because they haven't had elections in a long time and its current leadership is deeply unpopular. that's one thing he's going to try to bring here on his agenda tomorrow. the israeli government under prime minister benjamin netanyahu does not support

seeing one government controlling the west bank and gaza strip, has specifically said it does not want to see the palestinian authority taking over gaza. so already one point of contention. his second, he said he wants to see a situation at the end post this gaza conflict or a new phase of the gaza conflict where israel can live in peace and security. i don't think he's going to have any problems pushing that over the agenda here. that is something clearly the israelis want. the fact he's heard that across the region is something he's going to be bringing the the discussion, saying he's been all over the region, people want israel to be able to live in peace and security with these other four points. third, he talked about integration. that's exactly what you were talking about. he sees that integration is a path in the future. that means more normalization agreement, folding israel more into the middle east political fabric which is what we were starting to see potentially with

the saudi normalization deal in which we've already seen with the abraham accords. lastly, ending, that this process would culminate in a return of the peace process and a path to palestinian statehood. that could potentially be the most problematic one because prime minister netanyahu, the most far right coalition in israel's modern history, does not support a two-state solution. he will have at least two of his four points very challenging when he comes here tomorrow. >> richard engel in jerusalem, thank you. a programming note, andrea mitchell will sit down with secretary of state antony blinken in tel aviv for an exclusive interview on this latest trip to the middle east, that's this wednesday, 12:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. meanwhile, this morning the biden administration confirmed there are no plans to fire defense secretary lloyd austin

amid controversy surrounding a hospitalization austin kept secret for days, secret even from the president, from senior white house officials, even deputy defense secretary kathleen hicks on vacation in puerto rico didn't know f two days. hours ago aboard air force one, national security council spokesman john kirby had this to say. >> i fly expect that we'll take lk at process a procedure here. we'll do wha akin to a hot wash and tryo see if process and procedures need tbe changed at al our modified so we can learn from this. there is no, no plans for anything other than for secretary austin to stay in the job and continuing the leadership that he's been demonstrating. >> we're joined by nbc news investigative correspondent dan deluis and white house correspondent. is there protocol about how

something like this should be handled? >> yes. i think this is not how it should be handled. i think anyone would have to agree with that. even the white house is acknowledging there was a lack of transparency. of course, the secretary of defense is a crucial position in the u.s. government and is involved in any decision to use military force. he's in that chain of command in case of a dire emergency, including a nuclear threat. so the secretary's status and whereabouts should always be conveyed to the white house, to the national security council so that, if there is an emergency decision to be made, he can be contacted literally within minutes. if he's not available, his deputy or someone acting on his behalf can be contacted. that's not what happened in this case as you've just described. in fact, you still have the

white house saying he's doing an amazing job and ruling out replacing him. >> aaron, president biden spoke to secretary austin over the weekend by phone. do we know anything about that conversation and reaction from the administration? >> reporter: jose, we know the president spoke with the secretary late on saturday. we understand that conversation was characterized as a warm one, in which the president wished secretary austin a speedy recovery and return to work at the pentagon. that's what the white house echoed again today from the president's perspective, that the president has complete confidence. that's what the press secretary said today, in secretary austin, and he is expected to return to work. they went on to say during that gaggle you referenced earlier on air force one when the press secretary and the national security council spokesman came back to talk to the news media, that the president respects the fact that secretary austin took responsibility, took ownership for not disclosing this information to the general public and they would expect he'll be back on the job. the president has no intention

of firing secretary austin. that was reiterated over and over again by the press secretary and national security spokesman today. jose, we know the phone call on saturday was at least the second time this year the president woul have engaged with secretary austin. he, as w understand it, was admitted to the hospital, walter reed military hospital in the d.c. area at some point in the day on january 1st. there was a national security council phone call that moing. we were made aware of that as we travith president biden when he was in the virgin that morning there was a national security phone call involving the president as well. secretary austin to our knowledge was involved in that phone call. after that, though, it seems there was a lapse, a point where at least no one in the white house knew that secretary austin was in the hospital and had transferred powers temporarily to his deputy who otherwise is in charge of the day-to-day operations at the pentagon.

there's still a lot of questions yet to be answered about what caused this lapse and what exactly is going to happen as a result of it. >> dan deluis and aaron gilchrist, thank you very much. coming up after the break, the trillion and a half dollar deal to keep the government open. what will it take to get it over the finish line? you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. c diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.

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48 past the hour. on capitol hill budget talks are continuing after a tentative spending agreement was reached between house speaker mike johnson and senate majority leader chuck schumer over government spending limits for the year. it's the first step in averting a government shutdown. the deal makes only slight changes to the debt limit agreement hatched last spring by president biden and former speaker kevin mccarthy. the deal was mostly responsible for the mccarthy downfall at the hands of hardliners within his own caucus. while the new man on the job, mike johnson, did manage to score a few policy victories, will it be enough to keep him from a similar fate? i want to bring in nbc's capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles and jake sherman, co-founder of punchbowl news and an msnbc political contributor. what are the specifics of this agreement and what are the hurdles still in the way? >> reporter: you're right, jose. it's not very much different than the deal hatched a couple nths ago to avert a government

shdown before. what we're dealing with right now are the top line nuers, the amount that both sides have agreed to that they're willing to spend in the overall federal budget. it comes out to about $1.59 trillion in over spending, almost $900 billion of that specifically for the department of defense and for military spending. around $700 billion for non-defense spending. there's also side car legislation, side car spending, domestic spending that will be involved there. they're going to roll back some covid funding that has yet to be spent and also reduce the amount of funding for the irs, additional funding to go after tax cheats from only one year -- from two years to one year which was a victory for mike johnson and house republicans. to your point, there's still ofe to do. they've got to fill out all of these numbers. they know how much they got to spend overall, but they have to figure out specifically which programs in which departments, in which government agencies this money's going to go to. there's still going to be a lot

of negotiation around that. and then there's just the matter of time, the first round of budget deals is set to sunset on january 11th. that means not very much time to get a lot of work done, and even though there are two stages to what could potentially be another government shutdown, they're negotiating everything right now, and so in order for them to avert even a partial government shutdown, they've got to make these agreements happen right now. of course, jose, this comes against the backdrop of separate negotiations related to a supplemental package that would benefit ukraine, israel and of course deal with the situation at the border. those negotiators were back at it again today. here's what they had to say about the progress of those negotiations. >> we're certainly narrowing down the issues so when the issues become more narrow, you don't need to meet for as long. >> we're making decisions. >> you know, we're hopeful we'll have something to present to our colleagues soon. >> reporter: you have these two high stakes negotiations coming

in at the same time. the budget deal and then the supplemental negotiations. there is the possibility that those streams end up converging at some point, and they just turned it into one big negotiation. the difference between the two, jose, and this is important, that budget deal has a deadline. they have to get that done by a certain time. the negotiations are on the supplemental package are open ended. they can come to an agreement at any point without risking any sort of deadline that they have to reach, jose. >> so, jake, let's talk about that, the supplemental on one part, and then the main one, the january 11th issue coming up. it seems like the one main one is not much different than what mccarthy and biden agreed to? so what's changed? >> nothing, really, jose. it's january 19th and february 2nd are the two deadlines we're looking at, and mike johnson found out, i'm not suggesting he didn't know, but mike johnson found out quite quickly that

this is 2/3 of the governing entities in washington are democrats, so when you're trying to exert your will and you're in the deep minority, meaning you only control one branch of government and even that by just a very narrow margin, you don't really have much leverage, and he's found that out. now, the question is do conservatives freak out or do they go along with this. do they want a government shutdown, will they let him pass this? how will they pass this? johnson has said he doesn't want any short-term spending bills, if this isn't done by january 19th, according to to what he said, he will shut down the government. we don't know how that's going to shake out. ryan alluded to this, it and it's true, it's important to underline and bold a million times, this is an incredibly compressed time frame, 11 days, january 8th, it's 11 days until the government shuts down at least partially. they've got a lot of decisions

to make. conservatives got nothing, they got $16 billion in cuts, mostly accounting gimmicks, not going to get the policy victories they want. the question is do they blame it on mccarthy, blame it on johnson, do they go along? we'll see that in the next couple of days. >> the supplemental has a lot of the issues that it seems not only democrats can agree on but republicans can't agree with republicans on? >> reporter: that's right, and then you put in, i've said for months now, and i think it's true, everyone up here thinks it as well, when you put two hard issues together, it doesn't make any of them easier. they decided to put immigration and the border with ukraine and other foreign aid spending. that doesn't make the process easier. in fact, it makes it harder. so there are a huge number of republicans who are against ukraine aid, adding the hot button topic of immigration and border security on top of that makes it more difficult. and on top of that, senate is negotiating a package that the house isn't going to accept. so this has no end game at this point, no clear end game at this

point, so it's going to be a really really rocky couple of weeks here on capitol hill. >> it does seem that way, and ryan, finally, the house overnight and judiciary committees are recommending that hunter biden be held in contempt of congress. >> on top of the spending negotiations that jake is talking about that require bipartisan support, republicans are really embarking on a series of very partisan efforts. the one being the potential impeachment of the dhs secretary, alejandro mayorkas, and then the push to hold hunter biden, the president's son in contempt of congress because he defied their subpoena request. they put out a report today, and a resolution that they plan to mark up on wednesday. that could go to the full house in the very near future as part of the broader impeachment inquiry. jose. >> ryan nobles, and jake sherman, thank you both so much. i'm hoe jose diaz-balart on msn reports, thank you for the privilege of your time. stay tuned, our colleague katy

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