always say even on the big news days, we want to get people in, and mix it up. and -- i know i believe we spoke, i want. >> september. >> i want to say in the fall, and you said i will do it and you said okay, we were gonna hold you, that so you gave, appreciate that. your beat debut, i hope you come back, cornell belcher, i thanks to you as. well thanks for watching the beat weekend, and be sure to join us weekdays at six pm eastern. for the beat on msnbc. for the beat on msnbc. good evening, and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, kingmakers. the 2024 presidential primary season opens and roughly 4 to 8 hours when iowa holds its

republican caucuses. the remaining contenders are brave and the snow and cold to make their final pitches this weekend. ironically the voted will take place of martin luther king day. so many of the gop candidates have to split a questionable commitment to the ideals of democracy and equality that the great late civil rights leader fought and died for. reverend kings spirit fills tonight's show and we are joined by his eldest son and namesake, his daughter-in-law arndrea and his granddaughter yolanda. they'll have plenty to say about the state of dr. king's dream. and a moment when racial tensions and the threat of political violence seem more real than perhaps any time since the height of the civil rights movement of the 60s. all of this tonight on this

kicked a weekend edition of politicsnation. the king family will join us in a moment. but we start with congresswoman robin kelly, democrat of illinois. congresswoman kelly, thank you for joining us and let's start in your neighboring state -- thank, you and you are always welcome. let's start in your neighboring state of iowa. and just a few hours, we'll pick it in the results of the nbc news des moines register poll last snapshot of where things stand ahead of monday's caucuses. a suffolk university poll of thursday shows donald trump polling well ahead at 54% and that race for second remains within the margin of error with nikki haley at 20% and ron desantis at 13%. what are your thoughts about the contest just two days out?

>> it looks like trump is so far ahead and no one running against seems like they're going to catch him. it seems like the weather could actually play a role. it's very cold out here. they're calling for snowstorms and things like that. but your most enthusiastic supporters come out for caucuses. and it seems like trump has the most enthusiastic supporters. when it is all said and on, we just have to make sure joe biden wins. because that really all stand for the same things. >> now let's move to capitol hill. nbc news is reporting some moderate democrats say that they will and to vote to say speaker mike johnson if the right wing of his party moves to oust him as they did kevin mccarthy. johnson has been working with democrats on a partisan spending bill to avoid a shutdown and on ukraine aid.

but it also has also enabled endless investigations of president biden and his family which we'll talk about in a moment. and impeachment inquiries have also been put into the president and various cabinet officials. is this a speakership or serving in your view? >> i think this is all speculation. i don't see how we can keep changing speaker after speaker after speaker. and they are losing members, it seems like, every month. so the gap between democrats and republicans it is getting smaller and smaller. and [inaudible] literature efforts will be speaker jeffries [inaudible] but i'm hoping we can just move on with hunter biden as an

example. >> speaking of those endless investigations, house republicans say that will move forward with the contempt vote against the president's son next week. this comes after a circus of an oversight hearing wednesday where hundred bottom set in the chamber, willing to answer their questions publicly. and a statement from his lawyer, friday, stated his client would sit for a deposition of a new subpoena was issued. it is all of this a good use of the people's time? >> absolutely not. again, we are trying to mentor a government doesn't shut down after january 19th. that's when we need to be contradicting on. our budgets and appropriations and things like that, not on hunter biden. that should have been an embarrassment to my republican colleagues.

and if they want to interview him, do it in the public view. they always talk about transparency, but they're not showing it at all. this is pure, political grandstanding and we have had enough of that. >> finally, the u.s. conducted another military strike in yemen lost not and response to attacks on shipping and the red sea. some democrats are criticizing president biden for not getting congressional authorization for the operation which deepens u.s. involvement in the conflict related to that israel war with hamas. as you are aware, this issue has divided democrats a politically delicate time. what are your thoughts on this issue? >> of course, the president and his advisers not more than any of us know about what is going on. and i feel like he's just trying to protect american citizens and other citizens.

there are a number of countries involved and retaliating against the houthis and they're asking them to stop, and they're not. and they're holding up commerce and things like that. hopefully when we go back to d.c., there. it will be more discussion. but these things are happening a lot and you can't write back every time. so i think he did what he felt he needed to do to protect citizens. >> all right, thank you congresswoman robin kelly for being with us. now i am honored to be joined on this candidate weekend but reverent dr. martin luther king's namesake and legacy holder, reverend, brother, i've making him a reverend, martin luther king iii, his wife and president of the drum major institute arndrea waters king, and i'm always pleased to say their

daughter, a cold hurt my knees, yolanda renee king, who if that institute director of youth programming and the author of we dream a world, carrying the light from my grandparents, martin luther king junior and cory scott king. brother martin, sister arndrea, miss yolanda, we thank you for being with us tonight on the eve of monday's holiday. i'm going to sit you all in washington for the annual breakfast and go to the monument. but yolanda, let me go to you first. i want to do something a little different and threat with. you as we approach what would have been your grandfather's 95th day, and as you grow as an activist in your own right, how would you characterize the state of civil rights in america right now? >> first of, all i'm going to say to everyone watching this

that mlk weekend and the holiday is definitely not a day of four days off, it's a day on. so i really want to see a lot of service and a lot of people want to know how can i get involved? i think the first major step is really through service and really seeing that le pen -- carry on the legacy, that's what you have to do. and it doesn't have to be, i guess, the typical way, which is a great way to give back, but you can find your own way, carve your own path, make your own project or joint friend or join the local soap catchment to volunteer. just doing a little something to give back. it doesn't have to be anything crazy. i think just getting everyone involved and even doing something minor will really make a big difference. and it will go into a greater difference --

it's like puzzles. they all come together. >> everybody too little service, it all comes together. arndrea, this week elon musk used his ex platform to try and insinuate without evidence that a safe -- safety entered and on and alaska airlines flight was that result of diversity programs. and martin, you and i have talked about diversity a lot. we have seen over the past, the supreme court banned affirmative action in college admissions and conservatives targeting not only dei programs but also black leaders like former harvard president claudine gay. what are your thoughts on conservatives growing attacks on diversity in our public life and institutions? >> i think that mr. musk must be having flashbacks of his childhood in apartheid south africa.

because that rhetoric that is exposed is the exact same as the top 2024 version of that same very divisive and hateful and hate filled rhetoric. to say that and alaskan flight is some kind of way tied into diversity, equity and inclusion -- i've monitored the ku klux klan for many years -- a lot of the things we are here right now, and this quote directly,'s outlook of the same type of mentality, the same things we've heard from ku klux klan, neo-nazis, and skinheads. and i think we really should be concerned about the rise. not only the attack on diversity and equity and inclusion, but really what is being cloaked in and clocked as. >> this week, martin, we learned the justice department would seek a death penalty for

the white supremacist gunman who killed ten black people at a buffalo supermarket in 2022. it is the first for the biden administration, after the president ran on an anti capital punishment platform. martin, you've been long opposed to the death penalty, as i have as well. citing disparities and its application throughout our history book. what are your thoughts and this case? >> i think one has to be consistent. we have always, as you stated, thank you for the opportunity today, you know -- the bible says there should not kill. and then you kill on tuesday. so i still stand with that position. certainly, a significant punishment is in order. when people are in sane or hateful, which is a direct result, i still believe the

death penalty is something that i personally just can't agree with. e person who killed my father, killed my grandmother, we as a family said no death penalty. well, they need to be punished and some words related to my grandmother. i still stand by that position. i also understand why some would want to seek the death penalty. when you have this hatred, heinous-ness that occurs when someone kills people, consciously. the reality is, statistics show the death penalty does not necessarily prevent crime. we have to change the climate so that people respond differently. we are a thorough, for a better nation than -- so divided as a nation. we have to bring stability back to political space and really pick to the nation. so the people will respond differently, not feel like they have to respond in a hostile or hatred or beyond unconscionable

way. >> stay with you, martin, election year 2024, starting off amid growing concerns about political violence. particular trump supporters of former president trump. atlanta is preparing for trump's georgia election interference trial, expected to begin in august. whether he's convicted or not, are you worried about political violence in your home city or anywhere else in the country? >> i certainly am concerned about the potential for political violence anywhere in the nation. certainly not just in georgia. it could possibly happen in georgia, but certainly around this nation. as i said, because people are being irrational and not responsible. there is a wholesale, cooler heads prevail. and that's how we make progress. one of the things we employ, in fact, during this holiday is engaged in a major service project along with four young

people. yolanda alluded to it but little bit. >> i want you to make that announcement in a moment, but go ahead. >> so the goal is to bring people together, even if you disagree. dead and mom taught us how to disagree without being disagreeable. but if a climate has been created for us to be at each other's necks, that is just not sustainable. just like violence in general is not sustainable. you can win a pedal or a war but you will not win the overall concept until you learn what martin luther king junior talked about. lauren now so we don't have to face not accidents. and as it relates to politics or anything, we have to continue to address the issues. change the tone of what's been discussed and provide services for people, peoples rights, peoples -- voting rights, all these rights are being rolled back. and we've got to continue to stay engaged. we have got to not give, and not give out, not give up.

>> before we go to an announcement, arndrea, i want to ask you about 2023 just state record for americans killed by police. and all of us who work together on that issue. more than 1200 people died from law enforcement and contest last year, the highest number in more than a decade according to that nonprofit group mapping police violence. 26% of those deaths were black people, killed at nearly three times the rate of what's. what do you take from that, arndrea? you were mentored -- you've worked on this for many years. less than four years after the murder of george floyd and that national competition that followed, here we have horse year according to this data. >> i think we first of all trump by the fact we really need to be present all of elected officials to pass that george floyd policing act.

and i think, right, even when we did that march this last august, terry nichols mom was there. there's been a few times we've been in her presence. one of the things that i keep remembering, as a mom, is that he was right there at the corner and he was crying out for his mom. in that sense, i think there's so many of our youth, when he was crying out for his mom, he was crying out for all of. us so that we must continue -- you think about all of the mothers that have lost their children to police violence. so we have to continue to push our elected officials to make sure that no mother should, last time our children out of the door, we have to wonder if that will be the last time we saw them. you have to remember, dr. king talked about the elimination of the triple evils of racism and bigotry, of poverty, but also violence. that's one of the things that drum major institute, one of

the things me and so many others are continuing to eradicate those triple evils and really live in a country that embraces peace, justice, and equity. >> yolanda, i'm coming to you last. your parents can weigh in for the last word. you and your parents announced realizing that initiative. partnering with the nfl to help many people around the world, specifically young americans and educators to commit 100 million hours a public service over the next five years. what can -- what more can you tell us specifically about the role you want young people to play, yolanda, and of course if your parents want to weigh in? >> it's really about surface and assertive. and i think you described it well. it's really about getting young people involved.

partnering up with schools to get service done. like i said earlier in this interview, i really think that one of the best ways to make a difference is through service, through a given back. we really also want to make service accessible for all, to be something simple. to be something you can just do on your, phone even. so we want to make sure everyone can do it, every kid can do, it every committee has access to do some sort of service. like i said, i'm sure there will be definitely some people who come out of this project and do something major. and then there will be others who may do something that is, i guess, considered more minor. but everyone can pinch, and anyone can serve. so i think we're really trying to go with that motto and promote surface as a way to not only create a different but to unify people and to really, no

matter where you stand publicly, no matter your personal beliefs, we are just trying to get people together for a good cause. >> this is a big announcement, martin. nfl with the drum major institute and new and arndrea, how will it work and you'll be announcing it on doctor king day, that evening, i believe? >> yes, the nfl in conjunction for the next five years, we are going to be ramping up, hoping that communities around this nation will join us. particularly young people. it really is, as yolanda said, and rationally enough, because we're so odd in terms of traditions, this is about bringing people together. to serve, and as you know, dad used to say, everybody can't be great because everybody can serve. this initiative is about bringing americans together initially. hopefully it's about bringing the road together.

but that's what's going to be launched on monday evening at the tampa -- >> arndrea, you are the architect, tell us. >> also, i think it's very important. we are coming up, this holiday will be the 95th birthday of martin luther king junior. what we are committed to do, is and the next five years have collectively at least 100 million hours of service by his 100th birthday. it's a way i think for everyone to come together and i thank you. we were at a service project earlier today, building bicycles for youth and oakland. somebody there actually had heard the opportunity to hear pardons father speak. and it was in an arena that set 4000 and only 100 people showed up. it's also important for people to remember, sometimes dr. king wasn't always -- it wasn't always popular to follow dr. king. but because it was so few

people, he had them all come onstage and literally sit in dialogue with him. one of the things he told what she has he believed that moral arc of the universe is long and advance towards justice, but sometimes h one of us has to get out of our state and twist and turn and make sure that our campaigns towards justice. that's what we're hoping to do with the initiative. we are hoping to inject into a refrains and culture, literally, brotherhood and sisterhood and people get up out of their choice and help twist the moral arc of the universe towards justice. and also as a way to say thank you to martin luther king junior on his 100th birthday with 100 million hours of service. >> we are honored you talked about in here tonight. i'll see all of you in washington on monday morning, the holiday, before you hit for the announcement and hit to that king memorial. we thank all three of you, and especially, you yolanda, for being on this show tonight to make this announcement.

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pictures from iowa city, iowa. severe winter weather has complicated we can campaign plans for republican presidential hopefuls it the first and the nation caucus now just 48 hours away. welcome back to politicsnation. let's bring in our panel, joining me tonight democratic strategist juanita tolliver and republican strategist susan del percio. both are msnbc contributors.

susan, let's start with you. blizzard conditions yesterday and today have had the candidates canceling and rescheduling events all over the hawkeye state. the snow is starting to subside but then sub-zero temperatures are expected to sit in for monday night. do you think this extreme weather helps or hurts any particular candidate? >> it definitely hurts everyone to some extent, frankly. this is an operative forest nightmare. when we look at the republican primary, i can be hopeful and say not only will people be so anxious to get rid of donald trump that they'll show up because democrats, let's not forget and independents, can show up on caucus night and change their registration. so there is a play to be made there. but most likely you will see donald trump's papal show up. they are a follower of donald trump, they do anything for donald trump and that will show

up and that question is just by how many points will donald trump win by? >> when, into there is an old joke that says candidates get three tickets out of iowa. first class, business class, and coach. who do you think will be holding which boarding pass after monday night and is your prediction at all changed by chris christie's decision to drop out of the race this week? >> rev, of course i agree with sources on trump being in that first class spot. i do think it's still a toss-up. and yes, there's still some potential movement after chris christie has dropped out. we know his supporters would never support donald trump. so they're giving desantis and nikki haley a look. they're probably going to lead more towards nikki haley, considering that momentum she has, considering desantis has dropped everything he has in iowa. he has no more funding,-limited on terms of fund-raisers and donors.

nikki haley has upward momentum and that sparked think nikki haley has been doing lately is comparing herself to trump and outperforming him, as that data has been showing, in a general election. so i think chris christie's supporters will go there. no matter how much chris christie says nikki haley will ultimately get trounced, which i also agree with. >> susan, donald trump was as visible at the courthouse as he was on the campaign trail this week. speaking to the court on his own behalf during closing arguments of his new york civil trial, thursday. we also learned more about the expert witnesses likely to testify in his classified document case. and the former president was ordered to pay nearly $400,000 to the new york times and it's reporters to cover their legal fees after he sued him unsuccessfully about a story about his finances. so far, none of this has had

any impact on his front running presidential campaign, in terms of the poll. do you say that change? >> i don't see it changing at all, rev. because at this point, it's all baked in. it could, if there was a conviction, maybe. have some influence in a general election. but as far as the primary, goes it's baked in, it's moving -- it's also the point we keep talking about donald trump and his legal troubles even having to govern court at the courthouse. but before the indictment, donald trump treated his legal problems like pr problems. now he's taking his legal matters and waving it into his campaign messaging. so there are basically becoming intertwined, which is one of the reasons why i think it hasn't hurt him with his base. >> when eta, let's switch gears to president biden, as he tries

to reverse a second poll number in state vital to his reelection bid. biden the president will be in nevada later this month, making a pitch for latino support, even as negotiate for republicans -- negotiates with republicans on an immigration deal that is unpopular with some democrats. he'll also visit michigan and engage with arab american voters upset over his support of the israel war against hamas. what message should biden delivered to these groups to win the? backed >> president biden needs to go in and give these photos something taken feel. he needs to tout every win. he also needs to show affection -- for voters of color in these communities. i do think you're right to call it actors like immigration, like gaza, like the border security. because these are issues that are going to keep coming up. and president biden absolutely need to be prepared to respond

to them in realtime and provide a pathway forward that people are actually open to. because what we are seeing so far this, oh, i'm thinking about it, i'm actively negotiating with republicans on our home for trilogy, that's not going to flip and not going to help make up his numbers we've been seeing peel off in terms of support among latino voters and black learners as of late. >> i might head that on monday, martin luther king day, president biden is going to call into my radio, keeping it real tell sharpton, and he spoke at our breakfast last king day and he spoken to other king day's. so it's not just a campaign, he did it when he wasn't president, when he was vice president, when he was a candidate. he'll be on monday, 4:00, sometimes during that time period. juanita, i want to ask you one last question about some breaking news. this afternoon, former

secretary of state john kerry he is resigning as biden's climate envoy. carrick tells nbc news he's leaving the cars congress seems frozen on the issue. climate change is often cited by democratic voters as a major concern, but has not been major focus of the 2024 campaign so far. do you think democrats are making a mistake if they don't do more on this topic? >> one hunted percent, right. we know this is an issue that translates to young voters. it translates to voters of color. it translates to voters living in lower income communities that are facing the biggest issues with climate change and need investment in climate mitigation efforts in order to save live their lives safely in their homes. as we see the uptick in extreme weather, like we're seeing with bold move across the country but now, more and more people care about this because their base survival depends on. so this news from john kerry is not good news for biden, and

it's not -- gonna raise questions about what this means for climate change and the democrat agenda. but it's absolutely effort that requires intention and responsiveness. so even though we see congress being stuck, and i hope that president biden goes and works within his administration to provide solutions that don't require congressional action, as well as activate the solutions he has. remember, the inflation production act requires efforts and climate mitigation efforts that are actively being poured into communities right now. that's absolutely something he should hala right now. >> i'm sure john kerry will also be spending some time help with the president's reelection campaign and delivering that message. juanita tolliver and susan del percio, thank you for being on. one more piece of breaking news at this hour. the house and senate leadership have agreed to extend that government funding deadline

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worshippers did at that a in a church. and on monday, president biden will mark martin luther king that volunteer in a philadelphia-based food bank. and later that afternoon call into my radio show. will these efforts pay to help reverse that decline of luck support that biden has suffered over the course of his presidency, according to some polls? joining me now is democratic poster and ceo of hitch strategies terrance woodbury. thank you for joining us, terrance. >> tanks, reverend. >> let's start with the presidents appearance in charleston. take a listen to his comments on monday. >> january 6th, but i and which insurrectionists stormed the united states capitol, trying for the first time in american history to stop a peaceful transfer of power in the country.

we all saw it with our own eyes, the truth of what happened. those actions were among the worst derelictions of duty by any president in american history. let me say what others cannot. we must reject political violence in america. >> the president has made january 6th a centerpiece of his reelection bid and much of the same way as he framed it in the 2020 campaign around the 2017 what supremacist march in charlottesville. you recently ran a focus group where one voter described general sixth as a white privilege crime. do you think january 6th it's a topic that resonated widely with black voters? >> absolutely. i dilute -- they believe it's part for president biden to remind voters of the threat we saw on january 6th. but like we heard and the focus group, to black voters, what we experience on january 6th was as much an attack on democracy

has it was an expression of white supremacy, of white privilege. it is not lost on black voters, if that were black folks and gauging the capitol that way, shots would have been fired and bodies would have fallen. so we have to continue to emphasize the urgency of defendant democracy, but to also emphasize the urgency of fighting back the urge of white supremacy and white violence and political violence that has come to characterize the trump campaign. >> i've lead several big marshes on washington. we never even had an incident and they still look for someone to say. that may go back, your research also finds reproductive rights are significant voter -- issue forms of color. how should democrats talk about the issue and is the message to black voters different than how

candidates might talk about the issue to what voters? >> absolutely, brave. push that top decision we have seen an evolution and how black voters think about abortion. prior to the job decision, went at woman's right to abortion was the law of the land, abortion was much more of a wedge issue in the black community. we saw a lot more new once, a lot more variance and how people supported or did not support abortion. since then, every time abortion has been on that ballot, blip voters have supported abortion more than any other group in the electorate, including in a high of just three months ago when issue 1 was on that ballot and black men, 87% of black men supported a shoot one. they wanted right to an abortion. so i do think democrats have an opportunity here to not just mobilize voters, black voters around abortion, but two disqualified republicans who have demonstrated extreme

positions and positions that black voters will affect black bodies more than anyone else. >> another major issue for black voters in your research is affirmative action. following the supreme court ban on certain programs and cohen's and universities the summer. the issue has been back in the headlines and recent days, following claudine gay's resignation as harvey university's private president earlier this month. as you know, i as president of national action network march on bill ackerman and others responsible for that in trying to kill dei, which is a corporate version of affirmative action. what are black voters saying on the topic? >> voters know that dr. gay's resignation or removal was not about plagiarism. they know that there are issues of racial justice at play here. look, one thing we've seen, right, is since the summer of

unrest in 2020, issues of race and justice have become ubiquitous across that democratic electorate. no longer just simply the priority of black voters, but young voters, and what progressive voters, and all voters of color are red district issues of race and just as a top priority. especially, especially young people who are the most diverse voting bloc in america and who lead with that diversity and identity as part of their political engagement. so it is incumbent of the president of the democratic party to continue to commit to racial justice as we've seen in many of the president policies from climate change to the chips to the infrastructure bill, president biden's policies have often included racial justice plans and a part of the campaign we now have to run over that next year is to explain how that is impacted

not just black voters and not just voters of color, but young voters that are the most diverse voters in the electorate. >> last question. i was struck by a focus group you had over the summer. the participants were all men of color who voted for it biden in 2020. seven of eight said that people went to vote for a third party candidate, even if it resulted in a victory for trump. what do you think is driving these voters away from biden and what a time for him to win them back? we have to be brief, or out of time, but i want to ask you this question. >> absolutely,. look let voters are registering level of frustration. it's not tight or not president biden, it i don't think enough progress has been made. so within that perceived lack of progress, they're beginning to shop other options. that's what you're seeing an increase in potential support for donald trump and fourth to candidates. but president biden has an

incredible story of progress to tell and at least the ten months to deliver that straight to public voters. >> terrance woodbury, sank for being on with us again. as the iowa caucus approaches, perhaps no republicans has more on that line on monday then ron desantis. the florida governor has focused nearly all of his resources on the hawkeye state and campaigned in all 99 of its counties. faith known as the full grassley. but effort doesn't necessarily translate to support. a suffolk university poll authority shows him battling for a second place with nikki haley. with both candidates well behind donald trump. and if you think new hampshire would be kinder to florida governor, consider this. his campaign says he'll flight directly to south carolina after monday night's caucus.

joining me now is nikki fried, chair of the florida democratic party. miss fried, you know governor desantis very well. he's from your state of florida. what do you think he struggled to gain traction and the state of iowa? >> thanks for having me on. i think it's simple. the more and more he spends with people, the less they like him. you are seeing that not just in iowa but across the entire country. when you start to peel what the layers that is ron desantis, people just don't like him. and on top of it, they're seeing looks happen here in florida. right now, florida, there is three times higher inflation, three times higher than that national average. we have an insurance crisis that is crippling people, our middle classed, property insurance, middle class all over our state and our working class people are leaving. so they're seeing what's happened here in the state of florida. of course, what's happened this past week, we had a

tremendously large storm. it came through the state of florida. state of emergency all over the panhandle. tallahassee was completely shut down. except for the capital. so you can have a state of the state address. while floridians were losing their homes, he was having a state of plastic address, not talking about the affordability of our state, florida's become one of the most unaffordable states inclination. didn't talk about the property and current crisis. and the second he was done with the state of the state, he just had back to iowa, showing people not only here in florida, and across that nation, this was never about them, it was all about him. >> many political analysts believe a poor showing from desantis in iowa could and his campaign so the rather than later, returning home to florida were hit remained governor until his term ends in 2027. what are you expecting from desantis should he return his

full focus to your state? do you think he can continue to be the culture warrior governor he's been so far? or will he have to change course? >> it's going to be interesting. when he comes back to florida, he's burned a lot of bridges inside of the republican party. he's alienated the trump base here in earth, which is very strong. we have seen a county straw poll from county to county that trump is not letting him in these troubles. so he's going to come back with no money, with no political friends, with the influence and he's going to hit that decision to make. does he continue to try to break in any of his power and control over the woke agenda? or is the republican legislature and base here in florida not going to accept him back? it's going to be interesting to see what product he takes when he comes home and more importantly, what the republican legislature that has rolled out the carpet and all have his agenda items that last

few years, and to see exactly what happens. it's going to be a really interesting test of the republicans. but i can say. wanting the florida democrats already. we have been organized, on the ground, talking about the issues that are important to the people of our. we are ready for 2024, because we understand what's on that line and we understand how important it is to get back to the basics, back to the edges people in florida care about. >> on that point, and effort to enshrine access to abortion in florida has received enough signatures to put the issue on e ballot in november. we've seen simila measures passed in state like kansas, kentucky, and ohio. how confident are you that the measure will in fact be on that ballot and that if it is, it will energize that democratic base to go out and vote? >> you know, brad, after november, 2022, everybody can

to florida out. but we saw when the republican legislature passed the abortion ban, that 77% of floridians didn't want, crossroad organizations, democratic and republican came together, and got in an eight month period of time almost 1.4 million signatures. we only needed 891,000. this shows, this issue in particular, and with mentioned it, not just here in florida but across the entire country, and get under the ballot and people have the choice to make the ultimate decision of what they want for their own personal lives, making sure they still have access to abortion, that galvanizes, gets everybody out from independents, republicans, democrats. that's what you are going to see here in florida. you are going to see, once we get past the hurdle of the supreme court, it's going to get under the palette and then the people of our state are going to come together, protect their freedoms, and fight for

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weekend. and on monday is his birthday, and an official federal holiday. it should be a day of real concern to us this year, because race and the lack of bringing equal justice and fairness has been -- not been more threatened than any time since the height of the civil rights movement. dei is being combated, and many are trying to destroy it.

affirmative action a lot, voting rights laws change by the supreme court. now is the time not just to remember dr. king, but to make king's dream alive. on monday, you should be doing something that will be contributing, to continuing and maintaining the things he fought for, like a voting rights, like diversity, like of the things that matter. i'll be spending that day in the morning with the kids of the kings, as we have our annual breakfast in west -- governor -- and others will be on it. and in harlem, where we will have our -- an afternoon. and then at 3:00 in the middle of my syndicated radio show, i'll talk with president joe biden about his vision, today, as president of the united states, in the state of the dream of dr. king. it was race, racism, antisemitism, and other matters

of division, that he told martin luther the third and i, that is why he ran for president in the first place. i want to know his thoughts in that area, now. well that does it for me, thanks for watching, i'll see you back here tomorrow at five pm eastern, for another live hour of politicsnation. right now, the saturday show with jonathan capehart, at its new time, six pm eastern. jonathan, good luck, and take it away. >> thanks very much reverend. this is a historic moment. i've always followed you, but now i'm really following you -- this is fantastic, have a good evening arrive. s faall eyes on iowa, two days until the first contest of the 2024 presidential primaries and the republican front runner has spent more time campaigning from courtrooms then in iowa. my all-star panel will discuss why donald trump's legal strategy is part of his political strategy, with chilling consequences for

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