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>> and federal judges shut down a merger with spirit? >> this goes back to the spring of 2020, jetblue can no longer buy spirit airlines. and the u.s. district court judge that blocked this particular deal said it was because it would eliminate consumer options for those fliers out there who are more accustomed to budget airlines. what the next step is whether or not spirit pursues another merger partner or can be economically viable on its own. so, in this case here, jose, there's a lot of scrutiny fof for faresoverall. dominic chu, thank you. that wraps up the hour, i'm jose diaz-balart. you can watch me at jdbalart. you can watch clips of me on
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youtube. the great andrea mitchell is here with more news right now. and right now on "andrea mitchell reports" the republican fight ramps up in new hampshire. >> i do want to talk about nikki, that she's not great, she's not tough enough to deal with these people. i'll tell you that, she's not tough enough. >> we can't have a country in disarray and a world on fire and go through four more years of chaos. we won't survive. while president biden focuses on the border and meeting with top lawmakers. this hour, mark warner joins me with a preview. plus, new intrigue surrounding defense secretary lloyd austin's hospitalization as his 911 call is made public. >> can i ask the ambulance not show up with lights and sirens? we're trying to remain a little subtle. plus, as deadly strikes
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stretch from gaza and lebanon, iraq and yemen, i'll speak to an israeli woman about the joy of being reunited with a family member and the pain of having another one coverage from a hostage. buckingham palace medical alert, sending shock waves across the uk. we'll have a live report from london. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the short sprint to new hampshire first in the nation primary is in full speed. the finish line now just six days away is the next best chance to stop donald trump, it may be the last chance to stop trump, from locking up the republican nomination. today the candidates are making a staerged start. ron desantis cancelled his morning event because of road conditions but still planning,
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and despite the odds, nikki haley and donald trump have no official stops in the granite state in tonight. in repeat of tuesday, mr. trump continues his commuter campaign, spending the day inside a manhattan courtroom before heading back to new hampshire riding the tailwinds from his historic iowa victory. despite the second-place finish on monday, ron desantis is now in survival mode with nikki haley overtaking him in the latest new hampshire polls. and the desantis campaign pinning their hopes on south carolina next month. the make-up of new hampshire primary voters could help nikki haley's momentum. the state rousing independent voters to participate. haley admits she cannot rely on independents alone. >> we need to get strong in new hampshire. we need to be even stronger than that in south carolina. this is just about continuing to build. that's what our focus is. >> let's start with nbc's shaq
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brewster, shaquille brewster in new hampshire. this is becoming a two-person race in new hampshire but not the rest of the campaign. what is the leading topic of conversation among the voters you're talking to? >> reporter: well, they really just want to hear from the candidates and interact with them. for some, it's about stopping donald trump and for others it's about supporting the former president. and andrea, we have a snapshot of the race from polls from suffolk university that show former president trump at 50%, with about a 16-point lead over nikki haley. now, it's important to know, as we have the polls on the screen that new hampshire is a state in which it is difficult, truly difficult, to get an accurate depiction of how voters are feeling. and it's because of those undeclared voters. here in the state, if you're undeclared or independent as it's known in much of the country, you can pick up whatever ballot you want. you can choose to vote in the republican race. you can choose to vote in the
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democratic race. or you can choose not to vote at all but when you look among those voters and you have those numbers on the screen right now, you see nikki haley leading the undeclared or independent voters. the big thing here, we saw this in iowa, we saw trump go into the iowa caucuses with the big lead and you saw the result. you're seeing a similar dynamic here. and the difference here there are fewer opportunities to shift the dynamics of the race. we know that the republican governor here, for example, has already supported nikki haley. we know all of the candidates are here holding events. and we also know those debates that we usually watch for and wait for the big moments to occur on, those debates are no longer happening. nikki haley is saying if donald trump is not on that stage, she will not be on that stage. donald trump has not been on any stage, that's why you have abc and cnn cancelling their
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debates, andrea. >> shaq brewster, thank you. "washington post's" phil rucker and former white house press secretary bob gibbs. phil, donald trump has used it as eye campaign stop, certainly evident from the graphic. it was a year ago in march that he was first indicted by alvin bragg in new york. he's been trying to take direct aim at the indictments. that's what he's been doing. is it time -- you know in rallying his voters and victimizing himself. so, is it time for his opponents to begin calling him out on that? >> well, they certainly could, andrea. i mean, you're rightha used the not only build on his support within the republican party, but to intensify the support he already has. there's a fervor and intensity that we saw play out at those
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caucus sites in iowa. and that is probably the kind of support he has in a lot of states around the country in this republican primary campaign. and i think it's why he's continuing to go back into court to making visits to the courtroom, a part of his campaign schedule. to try to get media attention. and remind republican voters that he is on trial in a number of different cases. and the case yesterday, of course, it was that civil case, the e. jean carroll sexual assault trial in new york. we'll continue to see this in the days ahead. it's central to his argument and it's become very difficult for nikki haley and ron desantis to find a compelling counterargument against trump enough to pry those supporters away from trump. >> robert, hedging your belts on independents and affiliated voters in new hampshire, a number of registered democrats and republicans in in that.
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but as john mccain proved in 2000, that's not a recipe for success at the new hampshire primary when you go south. >> no, it's certainly not. and look, if you look at that suffolk university poll, she's only winning those undeclared voters, 38% to 44%. that's not going to be enough in any way shape or form, to send her to victory in new hampshire. and just to be clear, if nikki haley doesn't beat donald trump here, in a state that, quite frankly, has those undeclared voters. and her ability to appeal to them and to republicans, the likeihood that she's able to win in nevada or even her home state of south carolina, and some of those southern states on super tuesday, if she doesn't beat him here, the chances of her becoming the nominee is going to be close to zero. she has six days to throw at all
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of this. i'm sort of surprised baste on the scheduling graphic she's only got one event today. she's got to be doing absolutely everything, she has six days for her candidacy, really, to live or die. >> and, phil, that is surprising, we all know new hampshire, they cleared the snow overnight, you know. there's no excuse in new hampshire for not getting around. they're like iowans. so how could you only have one event when, basic, her campaign could end next week? >> yeah. andrea, it is a little bit surprising. i don't know what she's doing with her downtime. maybe she's trying to do some fundraising or other things on her calendar but, you know, new hampshire is a state where retail politics matters. and the primary voters there expect to see the candidates. expect to have opportunities in their own communities to see the candidates. in campaigns past, when i've been on the ground in new hampshire, you'll see three, four events a day from
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candidates. >> that's the beauty of new hampshire compared to iowa. >> yeah. >> you can go from one end to the next and really see them in the diners and see them in barns and other places. i mean, it's the best retail politics in america. and also, to your point, could be having donorroems right now? i mean, how do you feel a that, because the donors are alreadyting nervous given what, you know, poor showin her poor number three showing in iowa. phil. >> yeah. that may be. she clearly had a lot of exctations coming into iowa and did not fully realize them. a lot is on the line in new hampshire and she's going to need to raise money really fast in the next couple of weeks if she wants to go the distance against trump for the long run. >> so, robert, president biden posted a video knocking the
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other candidates on his personal account. not, of course, his white house account. let's watch. >> you know, it's kind of funny, all of these republican candidates in the primary are trying to beat donald trump. i'm still the only person who can beat donald trump. and i'm looking forward to it again, for the good of this country. >> so, okay. but does he have to do more? there are a lot of reports we saw what axelrod said that president obama has actually weighed in and told him they've got to ramp it up? >> yeah, look, i think that was a video intended almost exclusively for nervous democrats. i think the biden campaign had a good night in the iowa caucus. i think the quicker the republican primary is over, it's almost assuredly going to be donald trump, the likeier that this getting to be a campaign of biden versus trump quickly.
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it allows the biden campaign and biden to said up that choice to do it over time. that's what's going to be required over what almost assuredly will be a very quick race. for them getting to this one-on-one race sooner rather than later is a good thing. >> robert gibbs, phil rucker, thank you so much. and shaq brewster in manchester. and the flash points over more houthi attacks in the red sea. and new questions surrendering the hospitalization of defense secretary austin after the release of the 911 call reported from his home. i'll talk to a top pentagon spokeswoman. we'll be back in just 60 seconds. stay with us. you're watching msnbc.
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redesignating the iranian-backed houthi rebels in yemen as a terrorist organization taken a month from now. the group was previously on the terror list but the biden administration removed to aid inside yemen which has been devastated by ten years of civil war. the move comes as the u.s. military fought back against houthi targets inside of yemen on tuesday. destroying an anti-missile ship that u.s. said was watching from the red sea. raf, u.s. missile command destroyed four houthi sites. raising tensions what is the latest? >> reporter: so, andrea, this is the third round of attacks that the u.s. has committed against the houthis. saying they were effectively locked and loaded and that they posed an imminent threat to u.s. warships in the region.
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and as you said, the goal of these strikes is to deter the houthis from continuing these two months of attacks on commercial shipping in the red sea. and the houthis are not deterred. just eight hours after that most recent american strike, they fired another ballistic missile. they hit another civilian ship. that ship was able to continue on its journey. but the question for the white house now is, will more strikes make a difference, or is it time for a different approach. andrea. >> also, let's talk about hamas, because hamas is finally allowing medicine to be delivered to some hostages inside gaza in exchange for israel allowing more medical supplies for palestinians. they negotiated that last week and took place on secretary blinken's trip. it's finally getting is there, is that correct? so what's the latest and what conditions go along with a deal like this? that means somebody knows where the hostages are if they're
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delivering it. what is the transfer of these supplies to hamas inside the strip? >> reporter: yeah, that's the really interesting question, andrea, final mile, how do the medicines actually make it to the hostages, given that the location of the hostages is pretty much hamas' most closely guarded secret. here's what we know, two aircraft from the qatari air force landed in egypt earlier, carrying medical supplies both for palestinian civilians but also the 100-plus hostages still being held. those supplies, we expect, going to be delivered into gaza very soon, if they're not there already. and there has been some controversy here in israel about hamas claiming that israel agreed to exempt those medical supplies from security checks, to give hamas the reassurance they needed that there aren't tracking devices or something similar hidden in there. we spoke earlier to an israeli doctor who helped broker this
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deal. and he says the families of the hostages want to see proof that the medicines were actually delivered. take a listen. >> we must get, even if it's just the medications, you know, the medical teams we give to visit them, we must get proof, clear proof, that each and every hostage got the medications. it must be shown. we cannot trust the hamas that they say they received their medications. >> reporter: so the families of the hostages saying it is welcome. that medicine is getting to them. they want medical teams to be able to reach them and of course, ultimately, they want their loved ones freed. andrea. >> of course, frustration has been growing, we'll talk to a hostage friend and family member, just later in the program. thank you, raf. joining us now is sabrina singh deputy press house secretary.
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sabrina, thank you for joining us. nice to meet you virtually. i want to start with u.s. strikes against houthi rebels yesterday even as houthis damaged another cargo ship in the red sea. does the u.s. need to take a stronger stand to get the attacks done themselves? >> thanks, andrea, for having me on. exactly what you said, we did take action against four ballistic missiles which we believe were prepared to launch against red sea commercial shipping lanes and against where our u.s. destroyers are located. you saw us take action. last week on thursday, we struck six different locations we believe houthis have been holding many capabilities that have been used to attack commercial shipping lanes and 12s and our crews that are transporting the red se a very important waterway. we always reserve that right to ntinue our response. and while i won't forecast any punches of ours, we all have
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that right to protect our forces, protect our troops and ensure that the international rules base order is upheld. >> do the attacks have to be ramped up? in retaliation to finally to get it down? >> well, that's really on the houthis when they're going to stop their attacks. we did see retaliatory strikes. we're seeing lower scale retaliation, again, one or two ballistic missiles fired into the red sea over the past weekend. but that's really on what the houthis' calculation is, do they want to disrupt commercial trade which we know 15% of the world's trade go through that important waterway which not only impacts the region, but all over the world. we will continue to respond as we need to if the houthis continue this incredibly reckless and dangerous behavior. >> let's talk about defense
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secretary lloyd austin, of course. he's thank home, thankfully, after his prostate cancer diagnosis and the surgery and the apparent infection. first of all, how is he feeling? >> he's certainly happy to be back home. i know he'll be happier to get back in the office at the pentagon. he's recovering. he's been incredibly engaged since he resumed fuel duties over a week ago. he's been engaged since we took action on the houthis last thursday. and we know we're very happy he's home and recovering and looking forward to welcoming him home in the building soon. >> i know everyone is very relieved about his recovery and his medical condition. but you have to know -- of course, you know about the controversy. the white house was not told about secretary austin's new year's day hospitalization for three days. they were informed on january 4th, but it was days more, on
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january 9th, when the president was first informed, along with the public, that there had been a cancer diagnosis a month earlier. the president has called this a lapse of judgment. there's an i.g. investigation, congress is investigating. was it a lapse of judgment as the president said? >> i think you've seen the secretary take full responsibility for not disclosing that, not only his condition, but not informing his boss, the president that he was in the hospital. that's something as we mentioned we have a 30-day review, we have an independent inspector general investigation looking into exactly what happened and we welcome that. we want to improve our process. we want to make sure that something like this could never happen again and we are committed to doing better and so is the secretary. and as the secretary has said before, he does take responsibility for not disclosing that beforehand. and we will always improve and can do better and will do better for the american people. >> now, nbc news has obtained the audio of that newly released
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911 call from the foia request made by secretary's austin's aide on new year's day appant from the secretary's home. let me play a portion of that call. >> can i ask the canhe ambulance not show up with lights and sirens? we're trying to remain a little subtle. >> yeah, i understand. yeah, usually, when they turn into a residential neighborhood, they'll turn them off. but they're required by law to enter them with the main treat. >> why were they trying to keep tell so quiet? he's a cabinet member on the national security team. isn't this part of a pattern of failure to disclose and secrecy from the pentagon into this administration? >> well, it's something that this review is going to look into, from january 1st what exactly happened. i've heard portions of that audiotape, we don't have the entire recording. but, again, this is something that the review is going to look
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into, and certainly, of course, the inspector general. and i know i said this earlier, we do welcome both. we believe that we should be held to the accountability. we believe in the transparency that the american people and media deserve. and we are committed to doing better and the secretary is as well. that's what you heard from him in his statement, just a week ago, taking responsibility and knowing what we can do better and we will do better in the future. >> i just want to point out also that his chief of staff during this time, during that critical week was down by the flu. his deputy secretary was in puerto rico and had received a transfer of command which is routine at various times when he is out of pocket. but did not know the circumstances. so, she was in puerto rico. isn't there a concern that the american people should have and congress and the white house, frankly, about who's in charge during a time when we're in two
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hot wars and we've got the houthis and other iran proxies making trouble all around the middle east? >> absolutely, andrea. and that is exactly what will this 30-day review and inspector general is going to look at, but, two, i want to emphasize at no point was national security at risk. command and control was always maintained at this building. again, it's something that we know we can do better, we are committed to doing better and that's something that the review process is certainly going to look at. >> thank you so much, sabrina singh, the deputy spokeswoman from the pentagon. thanks for taking the questions. in critical conversation that president biden and congressional leaders are set to have this afternoon after negotiations over ukraine and border aid seem stalemated as well as on israel. next senate chair mark warner joins me with a preview of this
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presidenten is hosting top congressional leaders at the whuse this afternoon. their meeting meets many disagreements on capitol hill, border security and israel hanging over all of that and time running out as the budget could be shut down as soon as friday night. back here at home, a threat of a partial shutdown again is looming. joining us now is senate intelligence committee chair mark warner, a democrat from virginia, of course, at the white house meeting later today. senator, thank you. what do you want to see coming out of the meeting? >> as you were lining up, don't you feel like we've all seen this movie before. >> yes. >> like every six months it's a rerun? >> yeah. >> i do think, people can write mischief for the senate rules we had a strong vote to vez
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solution. we get that done thursday and friday morning, the house can pass it and avoid the steroids of another government shutdown. i've got my fingers crossed on that. in terms of a meeting this afternoon, i believe the president is bringing bipartisan security committees and i think he's going to make the case, at least i hope he makes the case, that the clock is ticking on ukraine's ability to continue to defend against vladimir putin's invasion of their country. and if we don't step up and honor our commitment, that is bad news for america. it's bad news for democracies. it would probably mean that $50 billion that the europeans have pledged which is being held up by the hungarian prime minister may be hung up as well. so, we've got to get this done, and i think the president will try to make that case. >> now, drilling down on ukraine because jake sullivan, secretary blinken with desantis today,
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ambassador was in davos. he was not asking for money. he was speaking promoting a pee plan and calling for stiffer sanctions on russia. this does seem in contrast previously of all trips appealing for money. he's reportedly running out of ammunition, they're on defense and offense posture now. what do you think is happening now? is there a shift towards diplomacy? >> well, i think zelinksy realizes without the promised aid when we committed to and without the aid they committed
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to, they don't have a lot cards to play. so going into the negotiations with him without the front lines or doing any offensive action is not a great hand. it's why we need to step up and put this commitment forward. an agree yashgs i've said on your show before, i mean, for about 3% of the last two years' defense budget and the money you've given ukraine, ukraine has basically taken out about 80% of russia's ground military capabilities. on a pure america self-interest argument, that's a great return. you and to give him the additional resources he needs both to maintain the battle front, but also to be stronger and leverage, if he chooses to negotiate with putin, i think that is in america's national interest. and i actually believe, you know, i know this has been tied into the border, understanding i think great progress has been made there, but i hope everybody
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can take yes or an answer. because i think this would be a huge block on american honor if we reneged on this commitment to ukraine. both parties, we will stand with you. >> let's go to the middle east for a moment because secretary blinken as you know was in the region. the arabs, saudi arabia, is now proposing to rebuild gaza after the war, help create a palestinian entity, a reform post and entity to govern and secure it. if israel agrees to a palestinian state, going back to david and oslo since 1993 at the white house with the signings, so what can you and other leaders in the senate do about trying to overcome this resistance, perhaps? this u.s. pressure?
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bought so far, i'm told by u.s. officials and other officials that they don't expect this to happen. a real chance -- it's a long shade but a real aspirational chance to reshape the middle east without him agreeing, or in a post-netanyahu coalition? >> well, i just met a bipartisan group of senators to saudi arabia, jordan and israel. and we made the case to the really government. you've got to get more aid to deal with the humanitarian issues in gaza. you've got to go ahead and pay the palestinian authority who oversees the west bank, or you're going to have another front in that war, because the palestinian security services, which is keeping a lid on the violence, they might all quit. and the fact is, i think for a while, the current israeli government thought maybe they could ignore the palestinians if they did these individual deals with the sunni states and saudi arabia, they could just somehow ignore the palestinians.
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after october 7th, that is not the reality. and we found from israeli forces in the intelligence community and the defense community, they understood that. i'm not sure the israeli -- all the members of the israeli government understand that. our support for israel remains strong. but we've got to have a partner in the israeli government that realizes that, you know, you could lose a generation of american support if they don't think about conducting this conflict in gaza in a different fashion. and the chance of having out of this crisis some level of regional alliance between the more moderate sunni states and israel, in a trade and defense alignment, that is a possibility coming out of this. but only if there's also a future for a palestinian state. and unfortunately, right now, the current israeli government has allowed so many settlers into the west bank, that it's really hard to see how the west bank being chopped up as much as
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it is, without some pullback of those settlers that you could ever get a palestinian state there. aligned in some way with gaza. >> well, we know that even after you left and made those arguments, days later, secretary blinken was there. and he was rebuffed by the prime minister which doesn't mean everyone in the israeli government, as you know. do you think that there's any way that netanyahu would move? or does this have to await a post-netanyahu government? >> well, listen, i think, a couple of the members in my delegation made it clear that we support israel. but that doesn't mean we support every israeli politician that candidly may or may not have, you know, the interest of peace, the interest of ending the violence atop of mind. and i clearly, you know, in israel, you know, for many folks, it feels like october 7th was not a hundred days ago, but it was yesterday. this is a country that's been deeply scarred by the hamas
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terrorist attack. but they also have to realize, as a supporter of israel, unless we can show aid to the humanitarian struggle of the 23,000 gazans who have lost their lives and literally thousands of more in jeopardy of starvation, unless israel can show that face of some assistance to those individuals and some future for the palestinians, both in gaza and the west bank, then the hope for any kind of regional peace goes down. and i think we have to keep applying maximum pressure on this government to recognize that reality. and, frankly, i think there's an awful lot of folks in the israeli government that recognize that as well. but there are some outliers in mr. netanyahu's cabinet who do nothing but stir the flames of passion against the palestinians with some of their comments like saying let's try to move all the palestinians out of gaza. that's just -- that is totally
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inappropriate kind of comments for some of the ministers and his government. >> very briefly, can i just ask you about the iran foreign minister saying in davos that they have nothing to do with the houthis, that they're not responsible? >> well, listen, i think the houthis -- listen, land has definitely helped the houthis, but one thing that came clear, iran has proxies that they don't fully control. in many ways what i heard in the region houthis are not good at governing but they're pretty darn door add warfare because they stood up to the saudi and uae conflict for many years and there are some folks in the houthi leadership who think they're even more supreme than the supreme leader in iran. be careful of what you wish for. i'm glad to see that america is acting and i'm glad to see that our allies did this so we didn't have to take these strikes an. >> senator warrener, thank you so much. face-to-face, e. jean
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been found liable in a separate procedure. joining us now is nbc's correspondent rehema ellis. rehema, walk us through the days and proceedings. we understand there's already been a clash between trump and the judge and his attorneys. >> they didn't want any proceeding of remarks that could be heard in the ear shot of the jury yet what the judge has been told, while e. jean carroll is on the stand in direct examination, and during her statements trump could be heard saying carroll's states are false. now, she seems to have gotten her memory back. at one point, trump even slammed the table in anger and when judge kaplan told his attorney to sit down, trump was heard saying nasty guy. so when they went on break, after the break, the judge, before the jury was brought into
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the courtroom, the judge said i'm going to ask mr. trump to take special care to keep his voice down so that the jury does not overhear him. in another instance where it was between the judge and trump's defense attorney, she was saying something about what she was going to be asking jean carroll once they came back and it was her turn for cross-examination. judge kaplan said lawyers don't tell me what they'll be asking, i make the rulings here. sit down. this has been going on and on like that, andrea. >> rehema, wow, what you would have expected i guess in this case. thank you very much. joining us is former u.s. attorney paul trotman. what about the judge shutting down trump's attorney alina
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haba. >> so she may be competent in front of a camera, she may be competent in front of television. but she's proven to having a more difficult time in federal court. i've tried dozens and dozens of cases in federal court one thing you cannot do is violate the rules. these judges have lifetime appointments, they make sure, as this judge is doing, to make sure that the lawyers follow the law. to have a lawyer be told multiple times sit down. to have a lawyer be told i'm the one on what you can or cannot ask is, in a way, refreshing. it's nice to see a court where the trial lawyers have to follow the rules. and here, miss habba is being compelled by the judge to follow the rules. within a larger sense and a more important sense, andrea. this is a great example of the separation of power. here sits a former president of
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the united states, the front-runner in the republican race for president in the next election, and this federal judge is telling his lawyer to sit down, when to stand, when she can ask questions. and just as importantly, telling the former president of the united states to be quiet, not to make the kind of statements that he made have made in other courtrooms where the jury can hear him until it's appropriate. that's a wonderful example of why it is our system of justice is one of the best in the world. >> paul trotman, thank you for the context here it makes you wonder how the jurors are reacting to all of this. thank you. staying strong as families of hostages being held in gaza come to capitol hill to plead to lawmakers for help getting their loved ones home safely. i'll talk to a relative of a hostage still in custody. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports," this msnbc. you live with your parents,
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meeting as we speak on capitol hill with a bipartisan group of senators before a white house meeting tomorrow. this comes just days after the 100-day mark since their family members were taken by hamas on october 7th. senator chuck schumer telling the families today, don't give up hope. >> we are going to do everything we can because our hearts are broken, and we must, we must bring them home, all of them. >> in tel aviv last week, families of hostages protected during secretary blinken's visit that i was covering and over the weekend, families revealed a replica they made of hamas tunnels where they believe hostages are being held, at least some of them, to make sure the public attention does not fade from the desperate fight of their loved ones. joining me now is maya roman who knows one of the hostages who also had a family member, first
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she was kidnapped visiting her parents october 7th. so, maya, you have a relative, your cousin who did get out in one of the earlier releases but carmel has been there 107 days you're advocating on her behalf. what do you know? >> we're here because we want to show people what they're fighting for. when they came back, it was the happiest days of my life which is quite weird to say the happiest day of your life is connected to the worst period of your life, it really is that way, the first thing she asked about what she came back, is what do we know about carmel, released after 54 days in captivity, we were certain, because the deal was for all of the women and children that carmel was going to be released
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the following day. and when the deal fell through, that was the first time i saw her break down since she came back. she told us, we have to do everything we can to bring carmel back. that's why she's always been interviewed. and even though she really hates it, now, she's asked me and my brother to come here and speak about carmel. carmel, we know from the hostages that were released that she's alive. she was held with a couple of teenage boys who told us she is held in quite difficult conditions, but they also said that she was helping them deal with captivity. that she taught them yoga and meditation and helped them keep a journal. and that's who and that's who s. she's an occupational therapist. but we are very concerned because they were released and taken from there, and we're afraid that she was left there all alone, so since that day we've been holding yoga events
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in her honor in hostage square and also here. but we are very much concerned and time is not on our side. >> there have been protests, i saw them myself when i was in israel last week. protests from families who think that the offensive should be scaled back, that they are endangering the hostages. tragically there were already three men, as you know, who were killed by friendly fire. >> yeah, you know, we -- none of us are experts in this field. all we know is that we have to get them out of there as quickly as possible, and whatever deal is on the table, we expect and are hopeful that our government will be willing to accept it and be willing to make hard choices and brave decisions in order to make sure that our loved ones are back alive. >> are you encouraged by the delivery of medicines that at least israel and hamas through qatar negotiating agreed somehow to get medicine in, and we don't
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know how that happened, but hamas was, of course, eager to make sure that there were no tracking devices so there was a lot of disagreement over that. what does that tell you? >> we are slightly encouraged because we understand that means the channel of negotiations for qatar is back on. we are concerned about whether the medicine is going to make it to our loved ones. we asked that the red cross be allowed to deliver them to the hostages themselves, and this was not allowed and we are hoping that hamas will at least release images of the hostages receiving the medicine. we have no way of knowing the medicine actually reaches the hostages. but we are -- anything that suggests that some negotiation or some deal might be on the way is optimistic for us, but yeah. >> and what do you want the u.s. to do? because the families i spoke to there, american families very frustrated and, frankly, angry
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at the u.s. for not doing more. i don't know what they could do, but what do you want? >> i mean, we think the u.s. has been doing quite a lot, and we want them to continue. we think that the u.s. has been invaluable in this situation promoting any kind of deal whether it's for qatar and whether it's for egypt, both of these suggestions have been brought about thanks to american involvement, whether it's the white house or congress, and we expect them to continue and do more. i know some of the families want them to try and be even more proactive, which i understand and support. we cannot accept the situation where the current deal is wasted away, and we will find ourselves 50 days from here still waiting for everyone. >> and you're wearing, of course, the -- >> the dog tag, yeah. >> the dog tag, which is to bring them back. >> yeah, all of us are wearing it. we're giving it to the members
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of congress and senate that we're meeting. you know, it's a weird ritual that you have, you get up in the morning and you put it back on. you put weight back on. my cousin is back so in a way i am not as heavy hearted as i used to be, but i am here with families, with mothers who are waiting for their daughter and sisters who are waiting for their siblings, and it's just not humane. they've been at this for 103 days. there are people over there for 103 days. this delegation, part of it is to focus on the women and our concern for their safety, and the dire need to bring them back before any more trauma is endured. >> maya roman, thank you so much. our hearts are with you. >> thank you for having me. and a royal checkup, concerns in the uk after new medical reflations involving king charles and the princess of wales. you're watching "andrea mitchell
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and we have breaking news from london where king charles is scheduled to go into the hospital next week to undergo what the palace is calling a corrective procedure for an enlarged prostate. buckingham palace says his public engagements will be postponed for a short period as he recuperates. we're getting word today that the princess of wales, kate middleton is in the hospital following planned abdominal surgery. the surgery was successful and the princess will remain hospitalized for 10 to 14 days before returning home, and is not likely to participate in any public engagements until after easter. joining me now with more is nbc news foreign correspondent meagan fitzgerald. two weeks is a long hospitalization post-surgery, and until after easter for public engagements, are there any concerns as to what could be
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involved? >> reporter: is you know, andrea, there's certainly concern around this. we've been speaking with royal experts who say, you know, the length of time that the princess of wales is meant to recover certainly shows just the seriousness of the operation that she had yesterday. but the information that we're getting certainly positive. according to kensington palace, they say that the procedure yesterday was successful, and this is non-cancerous. she will stay in the hospital behind me here for up to two weeks recovering. after that, she will then be released to go home where she will recuperate for even longer. not expected to do any duties until after easter. that's due to the medical advice that she's been given. as far as the king is concerned, we know that he will be doing this procedure for an enlarged prostate that's scheduled for next week. we understand that his condition is benign, and we know that he will have a short recuperation period. he has canceled public events,
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and will not resume those until after this procedure has been done, but you know, buckingham palace says that the king has been very intentional about the level of information that he's put out to the public. he wants to inspire men around the world who may feel symptoms to get them checked and the urgency behind that, and so anyway, these are two situations that are very serious, but nonetheless, situations that we will absolutely be monitoring. >> meagan fitzgerald, thank you very much. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. you can rewatch the best parts of our show on youtube, just go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it's a courtroom drama with a