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and will not resume those until after this procedure has been done, but you know, buckingham palace says that the king has been very intentional about the level of information that he's put out to the public. he wants to inspire men around the world who may feel symptoms to get them checked and the urgency behind that, and so anyway, these are two situations that are very serious, but nonetheless, situations that we will absolutely be monitoring. >> meagan fitzgerald, thank you very much. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. you can rewatch the best parts of our show on youtube, just go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it's a courtroom drama with a
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trumpian twist. the former president repeatedly called a liar to his face by the writer e. jean carroll during dramatic testimony. carroll laying out a blow by block account of how the attacks ended the world she had been living in. the former president shaking his head, slamming the table in anger and complaining about carroll's testimony loud enough for the jury to hear it. is there any amount of money that could finally get trump to back off? plus, why a split between republican leaders mitch mcconnell and speaker mike johnson could derail today's big white house meeting before it even gets going, with critical issues like government funding, wartime spending and border security all hanging in the balance. can anything get done? and the man behind the murders at club q hit with 50 additional hate crime charges stemming from the 2022 attack that left five people dead and stunned the lgbtq community
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nationwide. that gunman now facing multiple life sentences on top of the nearly 200 year sentence he's already serving, but not the death penalty. we'll explain why that is coming up. but we start with a compelling scene scene playing out in a new york courtroom. donald trump sitting just feet away from e. jean carroll as she testifies in detail about how nearly four years of attacks from the former president derailed her career, wrecked her reputation, and turned her daily life upside down. trump described as leaning forward, listening intently, and occasionally shaking his head in disbelief as carroll told jurors that trump lied repeatedly about her, even from the white house. she said being attacked by the president of the united states changed her world instantaneously, unleashing a wave of vitriol from his supporters that continues to this day. quote, the messages have never stopped. i receive them all the time, sometimes hundreds a day.
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the common theme is you're ugly, you're a liar. you hurt victims. in many cases, she says, the messages repeated trump's own words. later today, carroll will be cross examined by trump attorney elena habba. chris matty was lead attorney for sandy hook families in their successful defamation case against alex jones. msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos and rehema ellis are joining me on set. we all wondered how the president would react to being in that courtroom. what more can you tell us? >> pretty much he's reacting in the courtroom the way he reacts outside of the courtroom, just coming in right now the jury is on lunch break. the defense attorney has gone to the judge again saying that the former president continues to make statements that can be heard by the jury saying this is really a con job, that from
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former president trump. now from the judge, judge kaplan, he is speaking to donald trump saying, mr. trump has the right to be present here, that right can be forfeited and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive, and if he disregards court orders. mr. trump, i hope i don't have to consider excluding you from the trial. i understand you were very eager for me to do that. i know you would because you just can't control yourself in this circumstance. the judge has gone on and on. before the judge, the jury came back after the break. he admonished the attorneys, he admonished trump telling him you can't keep making these statement, the slamming on the desk as you pointed out, shaking his head, calling things angry, saying she's a liar. those kinds of comments he was saying to trump you cannot do in this courtroom. he's even told her attorney about when she can stand up, when she should sit down, and when she has said to the judge about what kind of questions that she's going to ask, the
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judge said something to her of the respect lawyers don't tell me what they are going to be asking, i make the rrulings her. sit down. >> chris, you've been in court for something like this. so look, i can't imagine if you really believe -- let's do the largest benefit of the doubt. you truly believe that you are being accused of something that didn't happen. you believe what you're hearing is wrong. every courtroom probably has that, right? every courtroom has a defendant who is angry about what they're hearing said, but what do you make of the way this is playing out at one point donald trump after he heard from the judge putting both of his hands in the air and shaking them? >> chris, what you have to understand is that juries see everything that happens in a courtroom. they pay attention to every detail. they are seeing what trump is doing, and they are likely to interpret it as being disrespectful of the court, of
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the judge, of ms. carroll and of them, and really, it place into precisely the argument that ms. carroll's lawyers want to make, which is that mr. trump can't control himself. that he is going to go out and do this again, his antics in the courtroom are proof of that. and so i wouldn't be shocked if it's as bad as it seems, if ms. carroll's lawyers when they address the jury use his conduct in the courtroom as further evidence that he is going to continue to malign and defame ms. carroll if the jury doesn't stop him with a substantial verdict. so -- and the other thing i wanted to mention is that juries often kind of consider themselves aligned with the court, aligned with the judge, and so if they see a party acting disrespectfully towards the court or the judge or is constantly needing to be reminded to behave themselves, they are going to consider that very negatively when they are asked to assess his conduct. >> danny, does this put the judge in a really unusual position but also difficult position? because on one hand, no judge
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will allow someone to be in the courtroom that they believe is constantly disrupting or in some way inappropriately trying to influence the jury. on the other hand, he also has to be aware that if let's say he says mr. trump, you can no longer be in here, you've been too disruptive or he takes some action against him, what is the political reaction to that? is he giving donald trump maybe something he wants? tell me how you see the dynamics playing out right now? >> every judge in every court that donald trump is appearing in, whether it's state court new york, federal court here, it doesn't matter. they all face the same dilemma, and you're going to get a lot of people in here who will say, well, in federal court you can't mess around with the judge. they don't stand for that, and that is true for the normal party. and donald trump is not the normal party, and with donald trump, every judge, whether they want to admit it or not, does not want to go down the contempt continuum. in other words, they don't wann
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chicken with the former president. if it were up to them, the former president would sit there and be quiet, but how do you -- how do you up the ante if he refuses to comply. and donald trump knows that on some level. that's why he is doing things that he should know better about. he should not be talking about the defense table. he should not be making comments. he knows that he's not supposed to do that. he's not some indigent client who's in court for the first time and is unsophisticated. he knows what court is all about. he's got more court cases than probably any american in american history, so he understands. so is this going well for donald trump? no. i think the jury's seeing this. i think the judge goes into this knowing he's going to have to admonish donald trump and that he's just going to have to deal with it. >> i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin, you literally just left the courtroom. you were there for the exchange we just talked about. we can read it, but you saw it. what did you see?
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>> reporter: so chris, let's go back to even before the exchange. i did see at least one of the exchanges that the plaintiff's counsel was complaining about. former president trump had a bunch of very noticeable reactions. i'm sitting in the right-hand side of the courtroom in the back, so i have a diagonal view of former president trump talking to his counsel i did see him when the may 10th truth social video was played in the courtroom where he calls the verdict an absolute disgrace. i witnessed him mouth to e lena ha baa, that's true. i heard it as well. complained about three statements that former president trump had made that were audible to those at the plaintiff's table, and she said must have been audible to the jury as well. that's when judge kaplan for the second time today reminded former president trump that he should not be making comments that the jury could hear or that
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even audience members could hear and then said you have a right to attend. you do not have the right to be disruptive or to disregard court orders. i hope that i do not have to remove you from the courtroom, and that's when trump, just as judge kaplan said couldn't help himself and said i know that you would like nothing more. i know you really want to do that, and kaplan more in sorrow than in anger shook his head and said you just can't help yourself in these circumstances, can you? and then kaplan walked off the bench. i have the feeling, chris, knowing judge kaplan and how he's controlled his courtroom so far, this season the last we've heard of it. and it's likely that we won't have to see another outburst from former president trump for judge kaplan to revisit this subject. he has had very firm control of his courtroom in contrast to judge engoron, multiple times he has said to e lena ha baa things like if you don't have an
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objection, sit down. you're not here to make announcements. he for the most part has done it well so far. >> and yet, there's obviously some what we can say in layman's terms crazy there. but i want to go back to something i heard you say in the very early hours this morning, i think it was on "way too early," lisa so pardon me if i'm misquoting you but it really struck me that you said something like this is really about how much money is it going to take to shut up donald trump, right? and that's going to go back in large part, non-lawyer speaking to the credibility of e. jean carroll on the stand, so you've been there. you've listened to her, tell us what you think. >> reporter: you know, i was at this first trial, chris. i will say two things, one, there is no such thing as a perfect sexual assault victim. if we're expecting perfection, e. jean carroll is not going to meet that standard. there are multiple circumstances
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where she presented a face to the public that is at odds with the person who is receiving death threats, who is fearful for her life. i thought her lawyer did a nice job this morning of what lawyers -- and danny knows this well -- taking the sting out of some of those admissions, asking her to acknowledge that, for example, when she gave media interviews surrounding the publication of her book and said that she was doing well and felt like she was in a cocoon of love and support, that that wasn't entirely true. that while she had received meaningful messages of support, she was also dealing with things like death threats, that robbie had gone through with her already. i think e. jean carroll is a credible plaintiff, but that doesn't mean that she is a pefrmt one. she is a person who has oftentimes done things that are somewhat at odds with what people, particularly people who don't know sexual assault and trauma victims, might expect people to say or do in the moment. but i thought e. jean carroll did a good job of explaining that there is a public e. jean and a private e. jean, and the
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public e. jean was raised to be a buoyant cheerleader who is always cheering people on, knew all the answers, gave advice, and the quiet e. jean was quiet, contemplative and a person who is living with fear. she said i've gotten to know that e. jean better and i like her. >> so chris, in your case against alex jones, the jury ended up awarding your clients $1.5 billion. e. jean carroll is asking for 10 million. what do you think of that as a number? i'm always curious where these numbers come from, but going back to the question that lisa posed very early this morning, is that enough to get trump to stop doing what he's doing? >> i think it's a modest request and one that's probably aimed to increase the plaintiff's credibility before the jury. i wouldn't be surprised if the jury concludes otherwise and things that actually a punitive damages award far in excess of that is what's necessary to stop
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donald trump from continuing to defame her. i mean, i think what the plaintiff's team is going to want to do is to ask the jury what it must feel like when the most powerful man in the world comes after you and shows no sign of stopping. what's the type of language he's going to understand that is finally going to make him stop tormenting ms. carroll, who is 80 years old. she has however many years left and is the jury going to allow for the possibility that she's going to have to spend those years suffering because of donald trump's continued attacks, or will they do what's necessary to stop him knowing that as his lawyer indicated yesterday, he is a self-professed billionaire. and the language that mr. trump is likely to understand is the language that's going to hurt him in the pocketbook, and if the jury believes that and is aware he's continuing to defame her, even as they're considering this case, i think they're going to do something very
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significant, and that's the challenge for the plaintiffs lawyers in this case. >> i think you just gave us a master class in closings. danny, let me ask you, we haven't heard the other side yet except yesterday. we got a preview from alina habba of what the defense is going to be. if i can summarize it, it's basically that, oh, come on, e. jean carroll has actually benefitted from these attacks. she's gotten rich and famous in a way she never thought she would. she doesn't want to fix her reputation. she likes her new brand, and she has been monetizing it for years. that's a quote from alina habba. >> it's a risk, you can either minimize the damages and essentially cross examine the plaintiff with the attitude of this wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be, or you can take the option that alina habba appears to be planning to take, which is no, no, no, this whole ordeal helped you. it improved your brand, it made you a household name. you have not been damaged, you have been benefitted. it's a risky tack because jurors
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may reject that out of hand and say this does not sound like somebody who has benefitted from the last few years of having donald trump on their bad side. and part of the issue here that comes in is the reach of a donald trump. you know, in defamation case, the amount of damages that e. jean carroll would have suffered would have been a lot different than if it was just some guy on twitter. this is not some guy on twitter. this is the former leader of the free world, and we have seen firsthand what happens when he tweets things out and directs his followers to do or not do things, it can be really bad for a person including this plaintiff. so this is going to be the plaintiff's show. the liability issues are not coming in on this case. today is no surprise. the plaintiffs are taking a smart approach. they are giving the jury e. jean carroll's biography, talking about her life, humanizing her to the jury so that when they go into that room and render a verdict, this will now seem like someone that they've gotten to know, that they sympathize with, and that is alina habba's
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mission if she can handle it, which is to tear that down and instead paint the plaintiff as somebody who is just profiteering, someone who is seeking to benefit from what donald trump may have -- you know, he can't raise this issue. he can't say that what he said was a lie or what she said was a lie or that he never met her, and that's the challenge. they don't have a lot of avenues here, so i have some degree of sympathy, maybe it's being a defense attorney, i have some degree of sympathy for the defense here because they have very few options here, and that may be why alina habba is choosing to go on the defensive. >> thank you so much. rehema ellis appreciate you coming out, chris mattie and of course lisa rubin as well. appreciate you all. the president bringing the fight for foreign aid into the white house. what we know about those big four negotiations just days before a potential government shutdown. we're back in 60 seconds. nment shutdown we're back in 60 seconds if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication
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in roughly two hours, top lawmakers will be heading to the white house for a very high stakes meeting as president biden makes his case for more funding for ukraine and israel. those wars continue to divide the house and senate. the democratic party itself, and what happens next has real world implications for biden's re-election. just one example, the democratic divide led by progressives who voted to potentially freeze u.s. military aid to israel as the death toll among gazans grows. according to the gazan health ministry to more than 24,000 people. and it's not just war funding, time is running out for congress to pass a short-term spending bill to avoid a partial government shutdown. as today's political playbook puts it, president joe biden is entering one of the most perilous periods of his presidency, both domestically and globally with the next 50 days determining the contours of his chances at re-election.
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nbc's sahil kapur is reporting from capitol hill, also with us eugene daniels, "politico" white house correspondent and msnbc political contributor, and former republican colleague david jolly of florida and msnbc political analyst. that playbook quote really summarizes the stakes. 50 days until the president delivers the state of the union address. how much is riding on getting this stuff done? >> right now he had to say how the union was, probably say shaky, right? there's not a lot of it happening, right? all of the things you just outlined they have to deal with, and he has this meeting with not just congressional leaders, right, that big four, but also key committee chairs and ranking members, and when you talk to folks in the white house and people that kind of understand how this meeting is going to go, think about it as kind of like a pressure on mike johnson, the speaker of the house who is leading a coalition of people in
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the -- of house republicans who want to see hr 2, which is kind of like this very hard line immigration bill be a part of this border deal that's not going to pass in the senate. president biden would never sign a lot of the things that are in that, but they are going to talk to him about ukraine funding, focusing on how important it is to get this money, get the money from the united states to ukraine because of what it stands for largely. they had a meeting like this last year where this happened, and he kind of walked out emerging, saying that the plight of the ukrainians would not be forgotten. it has worked in the past, but now it -- i would not expect them to walk out of there and have like an asylum nitty-gritty. that is not what this is about, it's about putting that pressure on him. you can see that with the amount of national security folks that are going to be there. >> david, what actually can we expect a meeting like this to accomplish? can it even accomplish getting the pressure upped?
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>> well, it certainly can, but i think we have to take it in three pieces. you have the baseline annual budget, the appropriations process, we're now almost four months into the fiscal year, still no full-year budget, and that's when we talk about a government shutdown. that's kind of the bricks and mortar of governing if you will. you then have the emergency -- the foreign emergencies, israel and ukraine, and then you have the border package. i would suggest the border package goes away. there is no immigration reform that the senate and the white house can agree on this year. speaker johnson has pretty much said that, and that leaves you then the spending on israel and ukraine as well as your baseline budget. on that, there is strong consensus among republicans and democrats in the senate and the house. the question becomes is speaker johnson willing to once again make the move that kevin mccarthy did, to work with republicans and democrats, the senate and the white house to provide for domestic funding as well as emergency funding for
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israel and ukraine. that ultimately will be the question, and will come down to speaker johnson and his internal republican politics. >> earlier today, secretary of state antony blinken spoke about what's happening in gaza amid obviously the israel-hamas war. he was at davos. let's take a listen. >> what we're seeing every single day in gaza is gut wrenching, and the suffering we're seeing among innocent men, women, and children breaks my heart. the question is what is to be done? i'm hearing from virtually every country. they want the united states. they want us present. they want us at the table. they want us leading. >> well, those comments come after we saw the growing democratic discontent over the gaza death toll spilling out onto the senate floor. so tell us from the hill what this opposition looks like, and does it appear it's going to
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persist? >> well, chris, we saw a showdown over this exact issue on the senate floor yesterday when senator bernie sanders introduced a resolution as part of his effort to make u.s. aid to israel conditional. that resolution would have required the state department to assess whether the government of israel committed human rights violations in gaza, and it would ask what steps, if any, the biden administration has taken to compel israel to limit civilian casualties. they would be required under is resolution to report to congress on both those things. how did the vote go? not particularly well. the resolution by sanders was voted down 72-11. those are the 11 senators on the screen there who voted with sander on the resolution. i caught u with senator sanders just a few moments ago. he said he's not disappointed to get only 11. he said he's delighting to get 11, that it's just a start, it's not an end. sanders told me americans have a right to know how the weapons they fund are being used and that prime minister netanyahu cannot keep taking american money if he refuses to listen to
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the concerns of americans who don't want to see human rights violations. now, big picture, near term the votes are there for congress overall for aid to israel. the progressive opposition is real, but that's not the obstacle here. the real obstacle is republican demands for immigration add-ones which will determine whether aid to israel and aid to ukraine has a chance of getting a vote in congress and ultimately passing. chris, the real problem here is the political problem that you mentioned at the top. president biden's re-election hopes, there are a lot of young voters, a lot of progressive voters who are absolutely essential to any winning coalition to biden who are deeply disappointed in the way israel has conduct thd war and the u.s. has supported it. biden's going to have to find a way to bring them back into the fold. >> let me pick up on that. this has long been considered joe biden's strength, foreign policy, and now it's his major challenge practically and politically, as concerns over wider war escalates. as concerns over the death toll continue to rise along with the
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death toll. that old adage that it's always about people's pocket books, kitchen table issues, how much could this factor into the president's re-election process? prospects? >> it's big, it's huge, right? it's not just how young people are feeling about this issue, right, about what's happening in gaza. that is a piece. that is a large piece of it, and it is one that they don't -- they are unlikely to move from, but it's also all of the other things that they don't feel good about, right? climate change. obviously the economy as well, but climate change, gun control, gun safety, the kind of things that -- student loan repayments restarting. these are thing that are at the top of mind for young voters, so this administration and more importantly this campaign has to figure out a way to talk about the ways in which they have done things on this, and when it comes to what's happening in gaza, the language has changed, right? we saw antony blinken just there in davos saying that it breaks his heart to see what's
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happening in gaza. that's not the way this administration was talking when it first happened, right? we've seen a change in the way they talk about what's happening, but when there was remarks or a letter that was sent out from president biden marking the 100 days since the hostages became hostages, he had heard from liberals, you heard from young voters, progressives, upset that he did not mention the palestinian plight, right? this is something that's going to continue to keep popping up as the administration is threading the needle in one of the most complicated, diplomatic issues of really generations and generations. >> eugene daniels and sahil kapur, thank you both. david jolly, you're going to stick around. i think one more way to punctuate what's at stake here is not political. it's human. it's about the children of gaza, nearly half of the population because, for them, the misery is only growing. here's nbc's richard engel. >> for the 1 million children in
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gaza, life has become unbearable. mohammad el yazagi is 13 years old and now has more responsibilities than he ever imagined, his mother killed, and his father missing, mohammad is taking care of his seven brothers and sisters. they live in a tent in rafa. israel ordered palestinians to come here in southern gaza for their own safety as israeli troops battle hamas. a pile of clothing and blankets is all mohammad's family has left. >> translator: i want this war to end and to go back to school and be with my friends, he says. >> reporter: instead, every morning mohammad collects firewood and has learned to cook for his siblings. with no money at all, neighbors sometimes give him handouts. but it's not nearly enough, so he joins the scramble at the food lines. children can wait for up to eight hours for a single pot of
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soup. mohammad's youngest sister is still a newborn, but he can't get her to drink the formula a shopkeeper gave him. he tries to sing like his mother did, but he doesn't know how to soothe a baby. also in rafa are nadine and jude, she's also 13, also from gaza city. she's moved six times to escape the fighting before ending up here. >> what we're living is horrible and what we're practically living like animals and we shouldn't live like that. we should live like human beings. >> reporter: medically vulnerable children have been pushed over the edge. in october, we visited a home for disabled children in gaza city and saw yas, blind and with debilitating complex needs. he and the others have also been displaced to rafa now living in he's become very stiff without the medicine he needs to relax his uncontrollable muscle
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contractions. >> i don't want our future to live like this. i want it to be changed. >> the stakes. nbc's richard engel, thank you. coming up, we're back on the campaign trail waiting for the latest town hall hosted by governor desantis just getting underway. he just took the stage. our reporter is there. plus, the breakthrough deal to get more aid into gaza. we'll tell you what will be allowed in and which countries made it possible. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. ...and a tight end all have in common? they all got this season's updated covid-19 shot to help better protect them against recent variants. got it? ( ♪♪ ) got yours? jordan's sore nose let out a fiery sneeze, so dad grabbed puffs plus lotion to soothe her with ease.
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it may all come down to this, new hampshire and new polling shows donald trump still dominating his shrinking field of rivals. the boston globe tracking poll now has the former president at 50%, 16 points ahead of nikki haley, and ron desantis trails far behind. he's in single-digits. we should note that new hampshire polling can often be unpredictable,ut new nbc reporting reveals that the florida governor is now in survival mode with campaign advisers admitting that the stakes are crystal clear, quote, he doesn't have to win next week's new hampshire primary, but he needs nikki haley to lose. that makes tuesday's vote incredibly important for her too, absent a win, this most unconventional of contests could be over before it's barely begun. s at a
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desantis campaign event in hampton, new hampshire. former republican congressman david jolly is back with us. so dasha, the final two new hampshire debates have now been canceled because desantis is the only one who said he'd go. what are we hearing from him now? >> reporter: i mean, chris, i've got to tell you. it's pretty remarkable that desantis of all people is now perhaps the most media friendly candidate of all three when he began as the one who was most difficult to get ahold of for the press. he was the most antisort of establishment, anti-media candidate out there, and now he's the one that's saying, hey, i'm willing to do these town halls, interviews, i'm willing to do these debates. where are all these other folks. here's what he said at the cnn town hall about it last night. >> i'm the only candidate that actually agreed to come to new hampshire to debate. and what does that say? we have four candidates for president, joe biden, donald trump, nikki haley, and me.
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i'm the only one who's not running a basement campaign at this point. >> reporter: but he's facing a tough reality here in new hampshire. this is much friendlier territory to nikki haley where she is doing much better with the moderate vote, the undeclared voters new hampshire is famous for. even she is trailing donald trump by a significant margin, especially since vivek ramaswamy dropped out. given all of, that you've got desantis speaking here right now to voters in new hampshire, but we got some new reporting that he is moving the majority of his campaign staff to south carolina. he's going back to florida right after he wraps up here today in new hampshire, and then he'll reemerge in south carolina on the campaign trail this weekend holding events there saturday and sunday. he's hoping to survive new hampshire to get to south carolina where he hopes nikki haley will really struggle in her home state. he hopes that there he'll be able to make the two-person race
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and then be able to sort of hang on for the long haul. but again, donald trump remains dominant and where things go from here for either of these two candidate ss a big question mark. >> david, moving the majority of his campaign staff to south carolina, that's really interesting. look, you've been in war rooms trying to plot a campaign. what does it look like in those rooms right now for desantis and haley as well, as they try to figure out how to plan for a very tricky course forward? >> yeah, chris, the reality is they're each running to be the last one to drop out. there is only one candidate with momentum, and it's donald trump. you feel as desantis or haley perhaps you do have some momentum. haley looks like she's performing well in new hampshire, desantis feels like he's good shot in south carolina. but the math just isn't there because there's no route for them to go after new hampshire. i do think it will take perhaps, though, chris, until south carolina where we see both nikki
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haley and ron desantis drop out. nikki haley will feel she did okay in new hampshire, the donors might stick with her through nevada. you have a full month until south carolina, it's her home state. her only question is do you really want to lose your home state or not, which would be a question for ron desantis on super tuesday if he stayed in to florida. but i think for ron desantis, the architects of his campaign have said, look, governor, if you really want to stay in this, if you really want to take a beating for another five weeks, south carolina is the last shot because of the high evangelical vote. it is more conditioned for donald trump and ron desantis than nikki haley. desantis and haley could both perform okay in south carolina, but they both lose to donald trump and likely drop out. >> let me go back to the debate for a minute. do you think haley missed a chance for free air time if nothing else. trump is always going to dominate coverage. he doesn't need to take the risk, but why would she give away that opportunity?
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>> well, she's not going to lift up ron desantis when he's at 5%. when ron desantis says i'm the only one willing to debate, it's because he's desperate, and the other candidates aren't actually desperate. haley feels goods about his position, so does trump. i would defer to many of the voices we've heard in new hampshire in the last 24 to 48 hours. if you're a new hampshire voter, do you feel disrespected by nikki haley's decision. it appears that many new hampshire voters do feel disrespected by nikki haley's decision to skip a debate. >> david jolly, dasha burns, thank you both. up next, the club q shooter is facing dozens of new charges, all while already serving a life sentence. is a plea deal in the works? you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports" only on msnbc rition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. my little family is me, aria, and jade. just the three of us girls. i never thought twice about feeding her kibble.
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federal prosecutors are seeking a five-year senator for a formers irs contractor. charles little john pleaded guilty to one count of illegally disclosing tax information back in october. but he also admitted to leaking the tax records of over a thousand other wealthy people. his sentencing hearing is scheduled for january 29th. meantime, the shooter behind a mass killing at an lgbtq club in colorado springs has reached a plea deal with federal officials. the rampage at club q killed five people and injured 19 others.
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nbc's matt la vee tsa is following this for us. >> reporter: the headline here is an exchange for pleading guilty, the shooter will not receive the death penalty and instead will face concurrent several life sentences to prison. the headline -- the reason why not go for the death penalty, it's seen here that federal prosecutors, it was more important to them that they got a guilty plea out of the shooter. it was more important to say unequivocally that this crime was committed with hate and it wasn't just a typical mass shooting that we've seen over and over again. >> was there any pushback we know about either among family members or the lgbtq community to this plea deal? >> there was, but you have to remember that there were several dozen victims. there were five people that were murdered in this, but there were several dozen that were seriously injured, so you're obviously going to have some variations in terms of what people wanted or didn't want, but there was agreement with the victims when they made this plea
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agreement. they did not just go back and forth with federal defenders. this was made with the victims input. >> so bottom line, he'll never get out of prison? >> he is serving several life sentences for state charges that he received back in june, and these are additional 70 charges of federal crimes. he will serve for the rest of his life in prison. >> thank you. we appreciate it. a diplomatic breakthrough has given a green light to get more medicine into gaza. we'll tell you how next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ansing reports" only on msnbc nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.
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today a major deal has been reached between israel and hamas to deliver critical medicine and humanitarian aid to civilians in the gaza strip, in exchange for getting medication to israeli hostages. nbc's raf sanchez is following this story for us. tell us more about how this deal came together and when those critical supplies are expected to get there. >> reporter: those medical supplies arrived in egypt earlier today aboard a qatari air force aircraft. they are due to go through israeli security inspection, and then they'll pass through the rafah crossing into gaza. not clear exactly when that screening is going to happen, but the hope is that those medications could reach the hostages, and could reach the broader palestinian civilian population who are living in a strip where the health care system has all but collapsed pretty soon.
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one of the key questions, chris, is how is the medication going to be delivered in that final mile as it were? is it going to be the red cross who takes it to hamas, gives it to the hostages. we don't have a sense at this point of the exact details, but this is a significant agreement. it is the first deal between israel and hamas since that cease fire collapsed back in late november, early december. it is giving some hope that even as the fighting continues, there are still channels running through qatar through which these two warring sides can talk, through which they can make deals and the hope is that this medication is going to make a difference for people on both sides who are badly, badly in need of it, 100 plus days into this war. chris. >> meantime, as we're hearing all of the discontent on capitol hill and questions about aid to israel, give us a sense of what the actual israeli operation in gaza looks like right now, raf?
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>> reporter: so it's mainly focused in the south. israel has scaled back its operations in the north. it is saying that it is preparing to operate at a less intensive level in the south, a more surgical approach, more special forces raids, more drone strikes, aimed specifically at hamas's leaders who they believe are hiding in tunnels underneath the city of khan younis. i can tell you, for palestinian civilians on the ground in the south of gaza, it does not feel like the fighting is getting less intense right now. we know there's been fighting around the nasar hospital, and the jordanian ministry set up a field hospital. they are saying it was damaged by israeli fire overnight. we have asked the idf for comment about that. we haven't yet heard back. it doesn't feel right now to palestinian civilians like this has been getting less intense. we have been hearing from secretary of state antony
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blinken and other american officials speaking at davos this week that the israeli military operation needs to scale down, and on the other side of it, there needs to be a political process that creates a pathway to a palestinian state. secretary blinken saying today there won't be security for israel until that process exists. >> raf sanchez, thank you. coming up on the next hour of "chris jansing reports" we have an update on trump's day in court while the woman suing him took the stand. but first, you can watch the best parts of our show anytime on you tube. go to msnbc/jansing, stay close, more "chris jansing reports" right after this. oscle, more "chris jansing reports" right after this rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower airways. but i'm protected with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60,
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it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, the e. jean carroll trial just back from a break after testimony that had donald trump slamming the table and shaking his hands in the air. what got him so riled up? plus, no lights, no sirens. what a 911 call reveals about the secretive ambulance pickup for defense secretary lloyd austin. pressing pause, why house republicans are slow rolling their crusade to hold hunter biden in contempt. and breaking news,

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