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but this issue is unprecedented. the idea that state law enforcement agency would block federal agents from accessing the u.s. border is something we've never seen before. and paxton in the letter said that the reason is they aren't doing their job to secure the border so they need to fall to texas hands. >> julia, thank you so much. that wraps up the hour. and you can always reach me on social media and watch clips from the show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks it up right now. and right now a andrea mitchell reports, the scathing justice department report on epic law enforcement failures in response to the mass shooting in texas that left 19 children and
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two teaches dead. the press conference is moments away. >> what do you hope people get out of this? >> hopefully some light to the failures and unfortunately this happened to us for the lessons to be shared with somebody else. and also this hour in new hampshire, donald trump xwois on offense against nikki haley with the primary just five days away on offense against nikki haley with the primary just five days away.oxwois on offense against nikki haley with the primary just five days away.exwois on offense against nikki haley with the primary just five days away.s on offense against nikki haley with the primary just five days away. >> a vote for nikki haley is a vote for joe biden. if she win, biden wins and i'm telling you that.
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and a report has been released that described a chaotic scene that could have been stopped and some of the children had been saved if some of the officers had followed standard protocols in response. and we're awaiting the press conference from merrick garland and we'll bring it to you when it begins. the nearly 600 page report exams the failures from leadership to communication. and ryan riley is joining me now. what are the big headlines, major results of it? it is incomprehensible how many failures and lives that could have been saved. >> yeah, failures of leadership and then failures of communication. one of the big issues -- in fact
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that the individual -- the person in charge that police chief did not actually have a radio on him when all of this was taking place. and he was relying on his phone to have these communications. but they just sort of went against the generally accepted policy that has been really the standard since columbine. confront the shooter. and instead they treated it as a barricade situation. and so that led to the 77 minutes when they ultimately killed the shooter hiding inside of a closcloset. and so they hope to get a message that goes across the country and has an impact so that other law enforcement agencies are ultimately in a situation where they are more prepared in tragedy strikes in their backyard and they won't run into these communications
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problems and failures to sort of implement strategies that have been proven to have saved lives and bring medical attention much more quickly to eliminate threat as quickly as possible. >> let's bring in our panel, joyce vance, i understand that the president has spoken on the south lawn of the white house and we're waiting for that tape. and when that comes, we'll interrupt otherwises. frank, what stands out to you? >> 25 years at fbi, doj for a portion of my career leading shooting reviews, is this the most scathing report. the language could not be stronger. they used the phrase cascade of failures. and it is true. this is worse than the absence
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of failure, this is the absence of leadership and presence of leadership specifically the school chief who didn't know what to do or how do it. and definitive responses in the report. specifically they say that they wrongly treated this as a barricade situation. they say this bold face you should never treat an active shooter with continuing access to victims as a barricaded subject. it is an active shooter. they later say we couldn't get in the room. it was locked. we didn't know how to breach it. they say nope, not true, he could have broken a window or checked the doorknob and found that it was unlocked. >> let's go to merrick garland. >> the united states department of justice has finished its critical incident review. in undertaking this review at the request of the then mayor,
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the justice department committed the expertise to assess and provide guidance moving forward. as i told families and survivor last night, the department's review concluded that series of major failures, failures in leadership, in tactics, in communications, in training and preparedness were made by law enforcement and others responding to the mass shooting at raab elementary. as a result many shot were trapped in a room with an active shooter for other an hour as laufr officials remained outside. i also told the family and survivors how deeply sorry i am for the losses they suffered that day. and for the losses they have suffered every day since.
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i told them that the priority for the justice department in preparing this report has been to honor the memory of those taken from them. and i told the families gathered last night what i hope is clear from the hundreds of pages and thousands of details in this report, their loved ones deserved better. law enforcement response at robb elementary on may 24, 2022 and in the hours and days after, was a failure that should not have happened. we hope to honor the victims and survivors by working together to try to prevent anything like this from ever happening again here or anywhere. i'll turn to the key observing vagss and recommendations of the report. may 24, 2022 at 11:33 a.m., active shooter wearing body armor and equipped are a high
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power ar-15 rifle entered robb elementary and began shooting in to classrooms 111 and 112 which share connecting door. within minutes 11 law enforcement officers from the uvalde police department arrived inside the school. hearing continued gunfire, five officers immediately advanced toward classroom s 111 and 112. within seconds shots were fired from inside the classroom. shrapnel hit two officers. and all responders retreated to cover. a single officer then made additional attempts to approach the classrooms but after 11:40 a.m., no more attempts to enter the rooms were made until 12:48 p.m. more than an hour later. as a consequence of failed leadership, training and
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policies, injured and scared students and teachers remained trapped with the subject in the classrooms waiting to be rescued. survivors later shared that they heard officers gathered outside the classrooms while they waited. victims trapped in classrooms 111 and 112 were waiting to be rescuesed a 11:44 a.m. approximately ten minutes after officers first arrived when the subject fired another shot inside the classrooms. they were still waiting at 11:56 a.m. when an officer on the scene told law enforcement leaders that his wife, a teacher, was inside room 111 and 112 and had been shot. they were still waiting as broadcasts went out on officer radios that student trapped inside room 111ed a called 911
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to say that the officer was -- that the student was that room full of victims and that student stayed on the phone with 911 for 16 minutes. victims still waiting to be rescued when the subject fired four more shots inside the classrooms. 49 minutes after officers arrived on the scene. and they were still waiting for another 27 minutes after that until finally officers entered the class room and skilled the subject. as victims were trapped and waiting for help, many of their families were waiting outside the school growing increasingly concerned about why law enforcement had not taken action to rescue their loved ones. law enforcement officers from different agencies who had self
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deployed to the screen in over overwell scene in overwomen being numbers were themselves waiting for leadership decisions how to proceed. many reported they did not know who if anyone was in charge, what they should do or the status of the incident. some officers were confused over why they were not rescuing the children. some believed the subject was killed or that the law enforcement was in the room with the shooter. 75 minutes after the first officers arrived on scene, officers finally entered room 111. the subject engaged the entry team with gunfire and the officers responded with fire. 77 minutes after the first officers arrived on the scene, and after 45 rounds had been fired by the active shooter, the shooter was killed.
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the massacre at robb elementary shattered families throughout this community and devastated our country. 19 children and two teachers were killed. an untold numbers of students, teachers and law enforcement officers were injured. law enforcement response to the mass shooting at robb elementary was a failure. as a threat posed to our country by mass shootings has grown and evolved over the past several decade, law enforcement's response tactics have also changed. the massacre at columbine high school 25 years ago and the 47 minutes it took for law enforcement to enter the loss marked a major shift to how law enforcement responds to mass shootings. it is now widely understood by
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law enforcement agencies across the country that an active shooter incidents, time is not on the side of law enforcement. every second counts. and the priority of law enforcement must be to immediately enter the room and stop the shooter with whatever weapons and tools officers have with them. that is the approach responding officers first deployed when they arrived at robb elementary. but within minutes, officials on scene transitioned from treating the scene as an active shooter situation to treating the shooter as a barricaded subject. this was the most significant failure. that failure meant that law enforcement officials prioritized the protracted evacuation of students and teachers this other classrooms instead of immediately rescuing
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the victims trapped with the active shooter. it meant that officials spent time trying to negotiate with the subject instead of entering the room and confronting him. it meant that officials asked for and waited for additional responders and equipment instead of following generally accepted active shooter practice and moving toward the shooter with resources they had. it meant waiting for a set of keys to open the lassroom door which report concludes was likely unlocked anyway. and it meant the victims remained trapped with the shooter for more than an hour after the first officers arrived on scene. there are also other failures in lirp, command and coordination. none of the law enforcement leaders at the scene established an incident command structure to
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provide timely direction, control and coordination among the enormous of responders who arrived on scene. and this lack of a command structure exacerbated by communication difficulties contributed to confusion about who was in charge and how they could help. these failures may also have been influenced by policy and training deficiencies at responding law enforcement agencies. some lacked any active shooter training at all. some had inappropriate training, some lacked incident response training and vast majority had never trained together with different agencies. as vanita gupta will discuss, it defined the aftermath of the
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shooting. for example surviving victims, some with bullet wounds and other injuries were put on buses without being brought to the attention of medics. some families were told that their family members had survived when they had not. and victims' families and community members struggled to receive timely and accurate information about what had occurred. the justice department's objective in preparing this report was three-fold. first, to honor the victim, survivors and their loved ones. second, to provide a clear and independent accounting of the law enforcement response to the horrific attack that devastated this community. and third, to provide law enforcement agencies and communities across the country with analysis and recommendation days about how what happened at
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uvalde should perform efforts to prepare themselves for and respond to mass shootings. policing is a noble profession. it is also a hard one. it requires training and constant education about evolving threats. the report includes widely accepted recommendations that have been adopted by law enforcement agencies across the country about how to prepare for and respond to active shooter situations. before an active shooter incident occurred, law enforcement agencies have a responsibility to ensure that their leaders and all officers are trained to focus on rapid response. trained that the first officers on the scene must focus on eliminating the threat and protecting the victims most in danger. law enforcement officers responding to an active shooter must be prepared to take charge, to establish a unified command,
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and to facilitate communications, operation at coordination, and allocation and delivery of resources. they 34us continually assess and adjust as the incident evolves. and in the aftermath of a mass shooting, law enforcement and government agencies must provide the public with a sense of trust and confidence by communicating openly, clearly and compassionately during a time in which many are learning the most devastating news that any human being can receive. the victims and survives deserve before. first and foremost, the 19 children and two teachers who were stolen from their loved ones should be here today.
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they never should have been targeted by a mass shooter. we must never forget the shooter's heinous act that day. and the victims and survivors should over in have been trapped with that shooter for more than an hour as they waited for their rescue. the families deserve more than incomplete and conflicting communications. this community deserved more than misinformation from officials. responding officers who also lost loved ones and who still bear the emotional scars of that day deserve the kind of leadership and training that would have prepared them to do the work required. our children deserve better than
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to grow up in a country where an 18-year-old has easy access to a weapon that s on the battle field, not in a classroom. communities across the country and the law enforcement officers who protect them deserve better than to be forced to respond to one horrific mass shooting after another. but that is the terrible reality that we face. so a reality that every community must be prepared for. no community and no law enforcement agency should have to face that threat alone. that is why we came to eovaldi
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evuldynd why we're releasing the report. we stand ready to help communities and agencies prepared to respond to a terrible incident like the one that occurred here. we have concluded the department's review. but we know the work of healing here in uvalde is only beginning. we're humbled to stand with this community as you remember and honor your loved ones. i'll now turn the podium over to associate attorney general vanita gupta. her leadership has been key to the department's efforts to conduct an independent, fair and comprehensive review of the horrific mass shooting of may 24th and its aftermath. i'm also grateful to the entire critical incident review team and to the accident's office for
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their tireless work. >> thank you mr. attorney general. it is hard to look at the truth that the law enforcement response on may 24th was an unimaginable failure and that lack of action by adults failed to protect children and their teachers. but we cannot look away from what happened here. we cannot look away from these children and we cannot look away from what happened in uvalde. on may 24, 2022, this community lost 19 beloved children and two cherished teaches at robb elementary school. in the days and weeks following, this community also lost a sense of faith and trust in their own neighbors and institutions as they tried to make sense of what happened on the 24th and were
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unable to get the answers that they needed. during that time the then mayor called me to ask the justice department to conduct an independent review of what happened and what event with wrong on may 24 lt and in the days that followed. and shortly after the justice department began its review. the attorney general gave a sense of the detailed time line and the cascaing failure that's curd over the course of 77 minutes between when law enforcement arrived on the scene and when they finally entered the classroom. but we also know that the pain and failures and missteps did not he said when law enforcement feign finally entered the classrooms. it continued at minute 78 when it became clear that because there was no leader, there was no plan to triage the 35 victims in classrooms 111 and 112, many of whom had been shot.
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victims were moved away without precautions, without appropriate precautions, victims who had already passed away were taken to the hospital in ambulances, children with bullet wounds were put on school buses without any medical attention. in the commotion, one adult victim was placed on a walkway on the ground outside to be attended to. she died there. the reunification and notification process for families was similarly chaotic. and as some of the families described, truly deeply painful. during and after the 77 minutes, families and survivors received unclear and sometimes conflicting information about where to go to reunite with their loved ones. many family members waited at the school for hours without status updates. not knowing where their children were, if they were safe or hurt, or even alive. families searching desperately
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for their loved ones were sent to different places all across town. the high school, the civic center, the hospital. some of these details are gutwrenching. families hearing about the need for autopsy results as the first indications that anywhere loved ones may not have survived. at one point, hours after the shooting, an official incorrectly told families waiting for their children at the civic center that an additional bus of survivors was coming. it did not. inaccurate and inconsistent public communications including social media posts and press conferences only made things worse. at 12:06 p.m. law enforcement posted on facebook reassuring 39s that student and staff are safe in the building. that false reassurance was never corrected. an hour later law enforcement inaccurately posted that the shooter was in custody.
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that post too was never corrected. both impromise you too and scheduled news conferences and media engagements contained inaccurate and incomplete and at times conflicts information. and state and local agencies failed to coordinate hiding to inaccurate and incomplete information being provided to anxious family and communique members and the public. we know that the pain following a tragedy like this endures.com public. we know that the pain following a tragedy like this endures. we cannot talk about what happened at robb elementary without reckoning with the fact that this tragedy took place where all children should feel supported and cared for and safe. our report documents missteps in school safety preparation that contributed to this tragedy including that the campus safety plan was effectively a template and included security measures that were not even available at
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robb, that there was a culture com play com plans city city about locked doors and confuse of where to find a key contributed to the significance delay in entering the classrooms.contributed to the s delay in entering the classrooms. as we reiterated last night, the report not only looked backwards but also identified lessons learned and recommendations for other communities to spreent something like this from happening again. and no law enforcement agency or community can assume that what happened here or in newtown or in parkland or columbine can't happen in their community. this report offers 273 recommendations for law enforcement agencies and other officials in every community.
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that includes a series of recommendations for law enforcement and government agencies preparing for and responding to mass shooting incidents and active shooter incidents as they occur. in the immediate aftermath of an active shooter incident, law enforcement leaders must continue to provide guidance and direction to all first responders including triage planning to ensure that emergency personnel can access victims as soon as possible. law enforcement and government officials must provide proactive timely and accurate information, notifications and give community members as much information as appropriate at any given time to help avoid or mitigate rumors, uncertainty and unnecessary worry. if an organization shares incorrect information with the public, it should be open about it and correct that mistake. in the days, weeks and years after a devastating attack, family members of victim, community members, law enforcement and other first responders and their families
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should continue to be offered both immediate and ongoing trauma support. the justice department remained committed to the uvalde community. there are funds to support victims services and works with the state of texas and the community to complete the application for supplemental justice department funding that will enable continuing services for victims, survivors and their families. and through our cops office the department has also awarded the local school district substantial funding the past two years through the school violence prevention program to help the community continue to improve school safety and community. before we started this review, we consulted with the international association of chiefs of police to build out a team of experts including several law enforcement leaders who have ably led their communities. and i'm grateful to these leaders and the cops office team
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for their immense dedication and commitment. together the review teams work included reviewing more than 14,000 pieces of data and documentation including policies and procedures, training log, body camera and closed circuit television footage, photographs and more. they made nine visits to uvalde for a total of 54 days in the community. they conducted more than 260 individuals of individuals from more than 30 organizations and agencies including responding law enforcement and survives, family members, victim services priors and school and hospital staff. they traveled throughout the country to review generally accepted practices and contemporary active shooter training courses. other organizations and outlets have documented parts of what happened on this horrific day. but all of this work has read to a justice department report that is both the most detailed and broadest in scope looking beyond the immediate incident to include the communications victims services and school
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safety aspects of this tragedy. as well as the post incident response and pre-incident preparation. the public demands a lot from law enforcement and we often take their service granted. every day police officers run towards danger to keep people safe. in uvalde on may 24th, 2022, that did not happen until far too late. uvalde is a community that is hailing and getting clear on the facts is part of healing. so too are the beautiful powerful murals all over the city commemorating each child and teacher killed on may 24th. and so too is enacting change and policies and practices to help make sure these failures do not happen again. while it took time for the justice department to examine the facts and put the report together, our commitment to the uvalde community does not end here. through available funding, resources, technical assistance
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and training, we'll support uvalde and communities across the country in their efforts to prevent and address violence. just as we have looked back, we will look forward. we are committed to honoring the memories of the lives that were lost here by working to build a future where all of our children, their loved ones and their teachers can feel cared for, supported and protected. i will now pass this to hughen clemten clemens director of the ops office. >> gchl and thank you. nothing can take away the pain but i know the team at the cops office has been driven to provide an authoritative accounting of everything that transpired at robb elementary on may 24th.
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as well as events leading up to it and examination of what happened after it. as someone with 38 years of law enforcement experience in 12 of those as chief of the providence police department, i know the importance of having the right policies in place, the right training and the right partnerships. especially law enforcement partnerships with schools, communities, and other agencies and first responders. this report stresses how invaluable those relationships are. of course no one ever thinks something like this will happen in their community until it does. and which is why the recommendations we provide in this report are so critically important. unfortunately, the review of the mass shooting at robb elementary school is not the first critical incident review that the cops office has conducted. but having done this before, we
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know the value of the information provided. we have just lost the feed. we were listening to the director of the community oriented police program following the attorney general and we'll bring you a summary, but in any case, what you've slrd devastating. a colossal failure. ryan riley and joyce advance and track figliuzzi and anthony collie who had been with the justice department. and joining us now, d.c. democratic congressman and senate today collin all red.
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this says it was a failure of systems and training. we've learned victims were not tree and properly, one died on the walkway, children with bullet holes were put on a bus with no medic, that children who were survivors and does have a medical problem were put in ambulances, that people -- parents were improperly told that more survivors, bus load of survivors were on their way, that was false. as well as people whose children had died were told that they had survived. >> well, my heart just goes out to these families who had this wound reopened. and this is a necessary step for us to see what went wrong.
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and to understand what we can do better going forward. this is a fundamental failure of leadership though and we all have to i think understand that. >> let me go back to the news conference because we do have it back now. there was a problem there. let's listen in. >> -- nothing can take away the pain that this community has endured, but we were dedicated to providing this community with a transparent independent and thorough review of what happened. and i believe that this report has done just that. thank you. [ inaudible question ]
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>> the report is and an analysis of what happened at uvalde, all responds agencies. it concludes that this was a failure of leadership and so all members of the leadership who failed were identified. it also identifies individual offices by rank and by what agency they are from. but theard practice of justice department in these crital incident reviews is not to name those who are not listed as at fault and particularly not to name those inower ranks who acted on the scene. >> next question. [ inaudible question ]
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>> i think the report concludes that had law enforcement gone right after the shooter to stop him, lives would have been saved and people would have survived. [ inaudible question ] >> i'll leave that question for the d.a. to explain for everyone the justice department only has criminal jurisdiction where a federal crime has occurred. the shooter here is dead and there is no federal criminal jurisdiction. what we've done is respond to
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the mayor's request -- that mayor's request for a critical incident response examination to determine the manner in which the agencies responded and have recommendations for the future and that is what we've done. >> next question. [ inaudible question ] >> most significant urgent thing is active shooter training which provides that when an active shooter is in a building or anywhere else, first priority is to stop that shooter. and to remove people who are immediately endangered by that shooter. and that requires tactical
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training, that is the first thing. second thing is critical incident response. establishing who is going to be the on site commander, making clear it all other agencies that that person will be the on site commander. that again requires training and practice and response. [ inaudible question ] >> mandated means any circumstance where there will be more than one agency responds, and that is in any school situation, all the possible agencies should train together in order to establish lines of communication, command structure, and communication structure in particular. here radios were knock enter not interactive, people couldn't talk to each other. and so therefore respond to the
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same strategy. [ inaudible question ] >> i'll let hugh talk specifically about the pulse night club. but i will say what i described and what the report describes is clearly the generally accepted response to an active shooter. this is -- we did a survey across the country and the experts were involved in the examination our experts in the subject of active shooter and no doubt that the standard practice is the one i've described. i'll let hugh answer that specifically. >> i would say honestly i don't know if that is entirely true. i will tell you this report is
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comprehensive, it is extensive. i urge you all to read it. the executive summary, all 100s pages. i will say there was an epic or complete lack of leadership, unity of command, there was no incident command set up. that is not the case with the pulse night club. in this particular one in comparison, that is not entirely true. and the response was a failure of leadership. >> thank you, everyone. >> so as the news conference includes, we interrupted you. your reaction. >> i think that they said it well. it is a fundamental failure of leadership. and now the accountability component has to continue up and down the chain here. as the father of two boys who i dropped off to school in texas the next day, this was traumatic
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for the entire state, for every parent. the look in their eyes the day after and to know now that this report that lives could have been saved, it is heartbreaking and outrageous and as a policymaker, we have to step up and say how do we prevent this from happening, how do we prevent our public places and schools and worship and wherever we gather. particularly your children. we make you vow down your car when n. a school zone. we make you put a specific car seat in your car. my boys are 2 and 4 and for every parent this is their who nightmare. and as adults, as americans, certainly texans, we have to do something now. this has to be a spur to try to take action. >> and you were working with the attorney general when it all happened.
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>> i think what we saw is the ag not just responding as law enforcement, but as a father. it took me back to that afternoon when i was at the justice department and we had all heard reports of the shooting -- this shooting in uvalde. and we didn't all know that the death toll. but at some point that afternoon, my team received up dated information with the death toll, that numb. number. and i did something that i had never done before. and i enter runt what had they call the end of day wrap meeting. every day they discuss the activity of the day and i interrupted it. and because i had never done it before, they both knew that something significant was
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happening with uvalde. and i told them the death toll. and the number of children that had died. and there was a heaviness in the attorney general's office, there was a silence. and i told them that this was our newtown. and fast forward if you will a day or two later, we were in a senior staff meeting and the associate attorney general have a vanita gupta who we just saw suggested to the attorney general and to the deputy that reminded them that we doj had the authority do these after action reports. and there was general consensus that if the local leadership on the ground would welcome that review of all components involved, that doj should do it. and then a couple days later we
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got the on the record comment from the mayor. >> a devastating report. joyce vance, what kind of action can the families take? >> let's turn to the discussion of criminal prosecutions. i think the attorney general addressed this. this is an after action report and as i heard frank say earlier, this will become standard reading in training for new law enforcement offices. it will be studied by leadership in federal, state and local agencies across the country. and sometimes the most powerful lesson is the lesson about how to not do something. and the failure here to take the most basic actions to establish a command center will be i think instructive going forward. but obviously it will not bring any of these children back. there will be no further criminal activity by the justice department. the shooter is dead.
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no criminal action is contemplated against law enforcement folks. >> frank, what surprises you most about the justice department's findings? >> if you were to sit down and try to draw up a table top exercise for a shooting, and i've done that throughout my career, you want to inject various failure points. but if you were to write this up as an exercise, it will be laughed at as not credible because there is so much failure. every single turn there is a failure. and i think the incompetent leadership is absolutely to blame for this. little nuggets in here. ten stimulus events meaning things like shots fired while the police are listening to shots being fired. a child crying out and then being sho a 911 call from a child. an officer saying on the radio have a room full of victims. none of that being absorbed properly. radios that can't communicate. even so many officers and parents on the street with their
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parked cars that ems rescue vehicles were unable to even get close to the school. so needs to be looked at. i'm still hoping for criminal accountability. there were two application only texas charges that deal with child a ban donement and neglect. and i think that should be examined by texas and county prosecutors. >> all right. thank you all so much. a line of attack former president trump takes the fight to nikki haley in new hampshire to try to secure a victory that could catapult him to the nomination. that is next. him to the nomination that is next when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt. right now get a free footlong at subway.
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new hampshire. where do things stand now? it is five days away. what is the latest polling? >> reporter: yeah, pretty unusual circumstances here where we're five days out and nikki haley essentially has the state to herself today. ron desantis is back in florida today off the trail. donald trump is back in florida today for the funeral of his mother-in-law. and nikki haley is alone here in the granite state campaigning with a couple stops this morning and town hall tonight trying to make the most of the opportunity that is presented to her to gain ground on donald trump who has been much more aggressive towards her in recent days, now she has been returning fire today going after him on everything from immigration to sort of flipping back on him days. she has been returning fire today, going after him on everything from immigration to sort of flipping back on him claims that somehow supporting her would be supporting democrats. so she's kind of tried to turn up the heat a little bit here. and it's relatively easy to see why when you do a deeper dive
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into the recent polling. she's in a clear but distant second place across the state. while her numbers with independent, unaffiliated voters are excellent, they are not good with republicans. you see her trailing donald trump significantly among republican primary voters in new hampshire, but when you look at the numbers about independents, she does much better. this is going to be a challenge for her, if she can pull together that coalition of unaffiliated voters, she can make this state competitive. as you look further in the calendar, you see the challenge presented to her when you get more republican voters making up a bigger chunk of the primary in each state as we progress through it, andrea. >> and garrett, at this point, is there a future for nikki haley if she does not do well in new hampshire? >> reporter: in terms of her campaign, look, it only gets harder from here on out. i think her campaign could tell you, south carolina is her home state. she was governor there. they would expect to do well there, but the electorate in south carolina looks a lot like the electorate in iowa, and like a lot of these more republican
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sort of traditional red states than new hampshire, that's challenging for her. she's basically not competing in the nevada caucuses. that's a complicated situation between the caucus and the primary. you look ahead to super tuesday, and if you see on that calendar graphic, i struggle to see a state there where she could be especially competitive given the coalition she has put together. a long way of saying she really, really, really needs to do very well in new hampshire. her campaign, her top surrogate chris sununu suggested really well could be a close second. i'm not sure that passes the smell test at this stage in the campaign. >> garrett haake in new hampshire, thank you. and turning to foreign policy right now, the families of hostages being held by hamas are going to be at white house later today. they're going to meet with a national security adviser jake sullivan. action from the u.s. and from israel, fearing that the attention on their sons and daughters is fading.
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>> a cargo plane of hope for hostages in gaza. the first delivery of medicine and food for them from qatar agreed to by hamas in exchange for more aid to palestinian civilians. here at home, hostage families holding a vigil wednesday night at the u.s. capital and planning to visit the white house today, trying to keep the spotlight on their loved ones now held captive for more than 100 daze. a week ago today we stood on the border with gaza so close to omir. we screamed his name through speakers. >> can you hear us? we're here. we're really close to you. >> omir nutra is an all american 22-year-old born and raised in long island. >> loves sports. >> what's his favorite sport? >> basketball and volleyball. >> his parents emigrated from israel 24 years ago. their families holocaust
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survivors. when omir decided to take a gap year before college and enlist in the idf, they supported him. >> basically understood that he can't just be a bystander. he needs to join them and do his share. >> were you afraid of the danger? >> yes, but we could never imagine this situation. >> no one did. on october 7th, omir was stationed along the gaza border. >> he was in his tank with his team and they were ambushed. they forced him out and they took them. >> we are pressing for action from anybody that we see, whether it's state department or fbi or israeli authorities. >> many hostage families are demanding that israel agree to a cease fire. >> it's been too long, it's too dangerous. whatever they've achieved so far they can continue doing that other after they bring them out alive. >> leaders in qatar have said that hostage negotiations have resumed, with qatar relaying
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proposals between hamas, israel's spy chief, and the director of the cia. but so far no breakthroughs while the families, they can only hope that their loved ones will be free before another 100 days. and for more than a year in afghanistan, u.s. citizen ryan corbett has been in prison with no explanation or charges. his wife and children are worried about his deteriorated health as he sits in a 9 by 9 foot basement cell. he gets about 20 minutes of sunlight a month. in congressional testimony, ryan's wife anna made an urgent appeal for the release of her husband. >> our family is in crisis. my husband ryan has been wrongfully detained by the taliban in deplorable and inhumane conditions for 461 days. his crime, being a u.s. citizen in afghanistan. >> and anna corbett joins me
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now. two months have passed since that testimony. have you heard anything more from the u.s. about getting your husband home? >> i am actually planning to meat with national security adviser jake sullivan tomorrow, and i'm hoping to really get a clear plan and answers from him. it's been 525 days today. i'm really concerned about rye ryan's health. it's deteriorating as you saw in the picture. he's losing, weight, he's aging. he's not doing well in this basement cell. i'm really grateful for what the government has done so far. they have shown care and concern, but i have to say, up until now, the work has been a failure because ryan is not home. the president needs to do what it takes to bring ryan home, and ryan's a u.s. citizen who has been held wrongfully this long, and we're really concerned, and things need to move forward because i'm really worried for my children and for our family and for ryan's life.
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>> and do you hear from the state department? do you hear from other officials, the fbi, others working on the case? >> i hear from state department. i'm going there this afternoon, and hoping to get answers, but at the end of the day, the president needs to make a decision. he needs to do what it takes to get ryan home. >> and what would that mean? what do you think that he could do? we don't have relations with -- >> i hear different things at different times, and i'm hoping to get more answers. i think it's going to be difficult, but it's too long. ryan's been held 525 days, and he's getting worse. i'm so worried. he left perfectly healthy from the states and i spoke with him on christmas day, and he said his health is deteriorating and he asked what is going on? why am i here so long? he did nothing wrong. he was just trying to help the country. >> so he was there -- was he working with an ngo? >> no, he had his own business that he started in 2017 because
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we lived there as a family, and we had to evacuate with the taliban takeover, and so he continued his business to support his staff. >> ana corbett, we wish you luck. keep us apprised of what happens with the state department and the nsc as you try to get some help for your husband. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much. thanks for coming. >> thank you. and the suffering people in uvalde, the parents who have seen this report now and are trying to absorb it are speaking. let's go back. >> and local officials do what wasn't done that day, do right by the victims and survivors of robb elementary. terminations, criminal prosecutions and our state and federal government enact sensible gun laws because robb elementary began the day an
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18-year-old was allowed to purchase an ar-15. >> most importantly from what we've seen with this report and, you know, i commend the doj on doing this, is that although there isn't every name of the officers that were there so that we can hold them accountable, because we have to do our own digging most of the time, there are names that are named. and it is time because our community is so divided because of this, because they don't want to believe that the people that they grew up with failed our children and they stand against us, i'm hoping that they read this and they see johnny phil's name, or mariano pargas's, who is a county commissioner now, or
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constable zamora running for re-election. there are names in there, and the community needs to see this, and y'all need -- because the doj stamp is on there, maybe y'all will start taking us seriously now instead of telling us to move on. telling us to sweep it under the rug and not doing a damn thing about it. we need our community. it's hard enough waking up every day and continuing to walk out on these streets and walk to an heb or drive to an heb and see a cop that you know was standing there while our babies were murdered and bleeding out. if this community doesn't care, and i hope that this makes y'all. i also hope this lights a fire up under the district attorney's ass because we know that she has not done a damn thing, and we refuse to accept that. do your job.