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malfunction soon after departure, and that they will conduct a thorough inspection to determine the cause. the plane was a boeing 747, according to flight aware data. the incident coming weeks after a different boeing aircraft, a 737 max 9, was forced to make an emergency landing after one of its door plugs fell off midair. >> our job is to understand literally everything that has happened and make sure it can never happen again. >> reporter: the faa is investigating, and temporarily grounded 171 boeing max 9 aircrafts for inspection in the process. the crew of the atlas air flight safely out of harm's way after leaving a fiery trail through the sky. we reached out to the faa and have not heard back yet. overnight, boeing declined to comment. back to you. >> stephanie gosk, thanks so much. that does it for us today v a wonderful weekend. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. . and good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-balart. we're just four days away from
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the new hampshire primary. all three top republican presidential candidates are there and for nikki haley, she says it is about beating former president donald trump. >> we were focused on desantis in iowa. we're no longer focused on him. it is trump in new hampshire and trump in south carolina. >> meanwhile, new developments around several of trump's legal issues including his new warning to the supreme court about what could happen if he's left off of more state ballots this election. in washington today, top u.s. and mexican officials are meeting to discuss the humanitarian crisis at the border. we'll talk to denver's mayor who says his city is at a, quote, breaking point. and the brutal and in some cases deadly weather conditions across the country, with at least 95 million people under weather alerts. we begin this very busy hour with a 2024 race for the white
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house. the republican candidates are entering the final weekend to make their pitches in new hampshire, which is a completely different political landscape than iowa, it is considered more secular, more suburban with huge swaths of independent voters. the newest polling shows nikki haley in second place behind donald trump as the stakes could not be higher for the haley campaign. first read put it this way, quote, if haley can't beat trump in new hampshire, with all of its famed independent voters, she isn't going toing to beat trump anywhere. meanwhile, the other republican contender still in the race, ron desantis, is holding a few events today in new hampshire before heading to south carolina this weekend. joining us now, all across new hampshire, nbc news correspondent ali vitali, dasha burns, and shaquille brewster. so, ali, nikki haley has a lot riding on new hampshire. what is her strategy in the next couple of days? >> reporter: turn out the vote and make sure that people know that she feels she's within striking distance at this point
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in the race. now, we have seen some polls that bear that out, but certainly the polls that we have seen from respected news organizations after the iowa caucus tell a similar story to what we saw in the ground in iowa, which is that trump is doing a good job of consolidating that republican vote. he is ahead of nikki haley here by double digits. but at the same time, the voter that nikki haley is targeting is not necessarily the standard so-called maga voter that i got so accustomed to seeing when i was here with trump in 2015 and 2016, the first time that he won this new hampshire primary. instead, the haley voter that i've been talking to sounds like this woman who i met after her event yesterday. watch. >> i was. i voted for trump in 2016. and i thought i would give him a chance, you know. businessman, a very good businessman. and i wasn't impressed with him at all. so, i moved on and voted for biden.
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but i think -- >> reporter: in '20. >> i think both biden and trump have their downfalls. i don't think they're the leaders we want right now and i think nikki haley will bring us the change we're looking for. >> reporter: so, look, this interview was fascinating, jose, for a lot of reasons. not least of all the fact that we met someone who voted for trump and then for biden and now is entertaining nikki haley. it is interesting because this woman, donna, said if the 2024 election ended up being once again trump versus biden, she said she would probably end up staying home. this is a story i have heard throughout new hampshire, throughout iowa and throughout the last year that i've been traveling, covering this campaign. that's the kind of voter that haley is attracting. someone who is a republican, who is conservative, but who is not so wed to that ideology that they're not -- they're not unwilling to look outside the party lines. a voter like donna would be the kind of person who would be receptive to the message that haley is trying to close this
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new hampshire primary with, jose, the idea that trump and biden have more in common on the issue of age and generational leadership than they do having things not in common. certainly that's what haley is trying to do out here on the road, make that continuous refrain of trump and biden, biden and trump, putting that in the minds of voters as she tries to pitch herself as the next generation of republican leadership. >> and, dasha, meanwhile, ron desantis is making a few stops in new hampshire before heading to south carolina. what are their expectations going into next week? >> reporter: well, in terms of the desantis strategy, jose there are two pieces. one is one that they can't necessarily control, but they can sort of hope and pray and do what they can at the edges, which is hope that nikki haley underperforms in new hampshire. they need her certainly to lose to donald trump, and to lose by a bigger margin than haley is hoping for. number two is they need to signal to their supporters, to
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their donors, their voters, that they have a path forward, which means looking past new hampshire because they know he is not going to do well, put the polling numbers on the screen there he's in single digits here. he's going to be stumping here, he needs to engage with those voters. but he also needs to show that he has a path beyond new hampshire. and for him, that's south carolina. that's why he's going to be spending the weekend there. that's why he's moving his campaign staff there. that is where they see nikki haley hitting a wall, that's where they see their ability to potentially turning this into a two-person race. the problem is, jose, the same question goes for desantis as it does for nikki haley, what is a state that desantis can win? because right now even in south carolina, he's polling in third place, and the super tuesday states beyond that, trump is beating everybody as well. but here's what he said on the hugh hewitt show earlier about
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his path forward. take a listen. >> is there any way ron desantis drops out befe the end of march? >> look, my goal is to -- is to win the nomination. you know, ife won iowa, we would have been in a great spot. coming in second gives us the ticket to continue. i don't want to be vp. i don't want to be in the cabinet. i don't want a tv show. i'm in it to win it and at some point, you know, if that's not working out for you, i recognize that. this isn't a vanity thing for me. >> reporter: the one argument that the desantis team has been hammering that we do see evidenced in our polling data is that the ballot share from desantis should he drop out would not help nikki haley, it would not necessarily help her consolidate. it would most likely, the majority, go to former president trump. in a lot of ways actually ironically desantis staying in the race here in new hampshire actually helps nikki haley in this contest here.
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moving forward, though, the non-trump vote is still split between these two candidates. so, what happens in south carolina is going to be really, really critical looking past new hampshire here, jose. >> and, shaquille, you're in seabrook, new hampshire, a community that has been a major stronghold for trump. has there been any movement there? >> reporter: jose, there has been some shifts, including from one gentleman i spoke to who said he's now supporting ron desantis, but from his wife to the vast majority of people i met at this grassroots conservative breakfast gathering, they're sticking with the former president. and one thing i really wanted to understand was why those attacks from the other candidates aren't landing with these kind of voters. i want you to listen to one conversation that helps answer that question. this is a campaign and you have other candidates in the republican primary saying president trump did not build the wall as he said he was going to, that he didn't repeal
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obamacare, that he -- chaotic during his presidency. what do you think when you hear those arguments? >> okay, i agree on the chaos. but you know where the -- >> you agree it was chaotic under trump? >> it was. but not because of president trump. it was because of his adversaries. i don't like the way he demeans people, but look at the person who is sitting in the white house right now. he has painted people like me, who love this country, who want to make america great again, they are painting us as crazies. i'm not a crazy person. i'm a normal human being. >> reporter: and you get a sense from that conversation that it is more than the points that are being made, the political points that are being made by ron desantis or nikki haley. there is an emotional element to this. many voters have told me they feel like they need to defend donald trump, and that's why they're not even considering any of the other candidates. and never even giving any thought to that idea. you know, this is new hampshire, you heard ali, you heard dasha
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mention that there are those undeclared voters who may participate and choose to participate in this primary process and that is really the x factor, that's what the other candidates are banking on to help offset those who are staying, those voters who are staying with donald trump. >> and, ali, there is some drama on the democratic side ahead of the primary there. what is going on? >> reporter: drama on the democratic side, jose, in large part because new hampshire is no longer the first in the nation primary on the democratic side. of course, that goes in contrast with the state's constitution and everything that the state is doing is continuing forward as if they still had an active democratic primary here. on the one hand, they do. congressman dean phillips, as well as author and activist mary ann williamson are running on the democratic side and then president joe biden is the front-runner and presumed next nominee of the democratic party as the incumbent president. but as our colleague writes on the screen, there is a weird
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write-in campaign being mounted quietly on the parts of democrats so biden i not handed an accidental and embarrassing loss in the granite state. they're pushing voters, even though biden is not on the ballot, to do a write-in campaign here, because technically, even though this is not a state that is in the democratic national committee's calendar, biden could still technically lose here if this write-in campaign does not work. so we're watching democrats try to mount this, they're trying to do it quietly but also stave off something embarrassing about a state that is not in their lineup anymore, but is still acting as if it is. >> ali vitali, dasha burns, shaquille brewster, thank you so much. great seeing you guys. up next, new drama surrounding one of trump's legal cases. why there is new scrutiny of the d.a. in georgia's election interference case. we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching os"je diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. what an icon,... a legend,...
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12 past the hour. now to new developments in the legal drama surrounding former president donald trump. a judge overseeing the georgia election interference case against trump and others has set a february 15th hearing date on misconduct allegations against fulton county district attorney fani willis. now, this comes as trump urged the u.s. supreme court to ensure his name can appear on election ballots around the country. trump is saying that there will be, quote, chaos, and bedlam, if the justices do not reverse the decision by the colorado supreme court to disqualify him from the primary ballot there. with us now to talk more about this, nbc news correspondent blayne alexander in atlanta, and maya wily, civil rights attorney and former assistant u.s. attorney, now president of the leadership conference on civil and human rights.
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blayne, what are behind the allegations against willis? >> reporter: this really is something that has been playing out since last monday and been becoming increasingly more tangled as we have gone along. we now know judge scott mcafee is going to have a hearing for the allegations on february 15th. last week we heard from the attorney for one of the lesser known of trump's co-defendants, michael roman, and basically he said through his attorney that willis and her team should be disqualified from prosecuting him and prosecuting these charges because he's alleging that willis and wade, a special prosecutor that she hired, are having a romantic relationship. now, certainly that is the most salacious part of this filing, but what they are alleging is to be the wrongdoing here and what should disqualify her is they say she benefited financially from this arrange from this arrangement. now, it is important to mention that they are not offering any
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direct evidence or direct proof to back up the claims, citing only people who are familiar with the situation. now, almost every day since these allegations have come out, i've been reaching out to the d.a.'s office, she has not responded, fani willis has not responded to this specifically and her office says they plan to respond in a written filing. but she did seem to address these allegations against her without naming them specifically during an mlk day celebration where she was the guest speaker over the weekend. it was here in atlanta. take a look. >> i appointed three special counsel, as it is my right to do, paid them all the same hourly rate. they only attacked one. first thing they say, oh, she going to play the race card now. but no god, isn't it them playing the race card when they only question one? >> reporter: she continued with that impassioned speech for more than 30 minutes where she talked
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along that -- along those lines. the judge put a deadline of february 2nd for her office to respond in writing to these claims. jose? >> maya, what do you think any impact on these possible allegations against the district attorney? >> well, i think as blayne so well explained, the primary, most significant impact would be if there is evidence of allegations that fani willis materially gained, meaning got paid, got some financial benefit because she hired a special prosecutor, that the fulton county d.a.'s office could be recused from the prosecution. and that would mean it would have to be handled by another office. now, that's the nuclear option, and i think it is incredibly important to underscore what blayne said about the fact that we have not seen any evidence to support those allegations. and that's what we're going to be looking for, both in the
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court filings and in what this judge has done, which is appropriately called a hearing, but at the end of the day, this is a huge distraction from the fact that career prosecutors, public servants have found significant evidence to charge rico violations against these defendants, related to something as central as our democracy and the peaceful transfer of power. and at the end of the day, that's still the facts of this case. and where we have significant evidence. >> and, maya, turning to other trump legal news, donald trump is arguing in a new filing with the supreme court that removing him from the ballot will lead to chaos and bedlam. what do you make of that argument? >> well, i think it is not a legal argument, number one. right? the fundamental issue here is how the supreme court is going to interpret the constitution of the united states and the 14th amendment. the supreme court that has been very explicit, but it is going to look at the plain language of
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the constitution, when it suits them. one of the reasons they have a credibility issue. and in this case, the plain language is pretty straightforward and there is nothing in the constitution that says, well, don't follow the plain language of the constitution if someone, who, by the way, is facing these ballot initiative challenges because of the allegation of material aid and comfort to insurrectionists, that means that the reason we're even seeing 30 different challenges to donald trump being on a ballot in states of these united states is because there is evidence, significant evidence, including evidence that has yielded a federal criminal indictment that donald trump, indeed, incited violence. these words should concern us all in terms of whether or not some of the forces that we're willing to show up on the capitol show out, and engage in
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violence, are going to hear this as a call. and that's something we all have to be concerned about. >> and, maya, attorney general merrick garland is weighing in on calls for a speedy trial in the federal case against former president trump. here's what he had to say to cnn. >> is there a date in your mind where it might be too late to bring these trials to fruition? again, to stay out of the way of the elections as the department of policy. >> i'll say what i said, which is the cases were brought last year, prosecutor has urged speedy trials, with which i agree, and it is now in the hands of the judicial system, not in our hands. >> what is your analysis of what the attorney general had to say? >> well, you know, the attorney general is right. essentially it is the courts that decide the speed to which a case comes to trial. it is one of the reasons why there has been so much concern
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about judge cannon over the mar-a-lago case and the apparent slow walking of a pretty straightforward prosecution case. in the case of the department of justice this is one of which the special prosecutor streamlined the case, only made allegations, did not indict the people who were clearly identified as unindicted co-conspirators in an effort to streamline this case and make sure it happened rapidly. and i think that's what the american people hope to see. >> blayne alexander, maya wily, thank you so very much. up next, we'll talk live to denver's mayor who is just back from d.c., what he told lawmakers about the humanitarian crisis in his city, hundreds of miles from the southern border. plus, a government shutdown averted for now. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. d. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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and israel. now to new developments in the humanitarian crisis in our country. the texas department of public safety says state troopers are now arresting some migrants who crossed the border into eagle pass, texas, for criminal trespass. the department says the effort is only focused on single men and women who cross illegally. this comes as u.s. and mexican officials will sit down for talks on migration in the next hour. neither side expecting anything significant to come out of today's meeting. this crisis isn't just confined to the southern border. it is being felt in cities across the country, including denver. more than 900 miles away from the border. nearly 38,000 migrants have arrived in denver since texas began busing them there. with us now is denver mayor mike johnston. it is always great seeing you. thank you for your time. what kind of an impact is the migrant humanitarian crisis
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having on denver? >> yeah, thank you so much for having me. it is definitely both a humanitarian crisis for the migrants that arriving and creating a fiscal crisis for the city. as you mentioned, we had more than 36,000 migrants arrive and these are people with incredible stories. these are people that are literally the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, teachers and police officers and nurses and engineers who have walked 3,000 miles to get to this country and all they want is the chance to work and support themselves and their families. there are heart breaking stories every day, but we also know without federal support and without federal action, the impact on a city like denver, this would be $180 million impact on our budget in 2024, that's more than 10% of our entire city budget. so we believe there is a path to a solution here, there is going to be bipartisan agreement on how we can both increase access, provide more support at the border and get more federal resources and we need to make sure that makes it through the house of representatives because otherwise cities likes our will be in deep crisis.
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>> and, i mean, that fiscal crisis that you talk about, 10% of your budget, $180 million, what is it that -- how is that represented in the city? how is that fiscal crisis being shown in the streets of denver? >> right now, what we know is we are a humane and welcoming city, we are not going to be a place that is going to allow women and children to be sleeping on the streets in 10 degree weather or out in the snow. we're giving people access to shelter, helping them connect to housing, helping connect them to work. but that comes at a real cost to the city and the trade-off is we're having conversations with all of our city departments about how they could look at up to 10% cuts across all of our city agencies from parks and recreation to housing to public safety and so we don't want to cut services for our residents. we also don't want to allow new comers who have arrived in the city, often in t-shirts and
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sandals, to be exposed to the elements. we want to be a welcoming city and provide all the key services and that's why we need federal action from the house to provide the resources and the work authorization. >> is the federal action only coming from the house? is there something you want the president to do? i know you met just recently with homeland security secretary mayorkas, lawmakers on the hill, other administration officials. what did you learn from them? and what did you tell them? >> we shared very directly with them the three things we needed, which is work authorization for folks that arrive in our cities so they can support themselves, federal money to help us integrate them successfully like we do other asylum seekers and a coordinated plan for entry. i think we're confident the white house understands our needs here. secretary mayorkas clearly understands it. they're fighting hard for it. a lot of that was in the supplemental package they proposed. it seems clear there will be a bipartisan deal in the senate that will support these kind of common sense solutions. we know that will get passed through a republican-controlled house and i'm sure president
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trump will push that house leadership not to pass that. the question is do we want to do something that will fundamentally address and solve a humanitarian crisis this country is facing and our cities will be facing or intentionally destroy that effort just to try to play politics in an election year. i'm hopeful we'll see better angels of people's natures prevail. >> i was struck by your comments about who these men, women and children are that make this horribly difficult trek to the united states with the dream of being able to request asylum. what are some of those people that you have met in your city telling you about what it is that their american dream is? >> i talked to a woman who was a police officer in venezuela, and she came with two kids. she was asked as a police officer of venezuela to tear gas a room full of elderly people and children and she refused to do that. she's a woman of integrity. as a result, six state officials
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show up in the middle of the night to try to kill her and her family and her home, she immediately puts her kids on her back and starts walking 3,000 miles to get here. all she wants now is to be able to contribute to this city, to be able to help us move forward. we have a huge shortage of police officers here, particularly those that are women and spanish speaking, she could be a huge asset for denver, probably for any community. that's all she wants. she doesn't ask for charity, doesn't ask for public taxpayer dollars, she wants the chance to work and for me there is no more american idea than that, and she clearly is someone who is chasing the american dream and is more than willing to work hard to get it. she wants a city that will help her be able to work. >> mayor mike johnjohnston, tha you for your time. >> thank you for having me. details on what could be a new deal to release more hostages still in hamas custody. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. c. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost.
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35 past the hour. new developments in the israel-hamas war. nbc news learned there is a new deal under discussion to potentially release more hostages being held by hamas. the deal would include a pause in violence and exchange for hostages. this according to a senior u.s. official to israeli government officials an and arab diplomat. but no agreement appears imminent. joining us now, nbc's richard engel from amman, jordan. what do we know about these negotiations to release more
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hostages? >> reporter: well, we know that talks are in process, that they have been in process for weeks. now going into months. sometimes they are more intense than others. we have seen a relatively intense period recently, with qatar deeply involved, some hostage families going to qatar, the qatari deputy -- the prime minister personally involved. so we know that there have been discussions to try and have a phased release where hostages would be let go, more or less according to category, with any children first, and then soldiers at the end or military age men and women. but it is all in exchange, they would be sort of a staggered cease-fire rolled out as the hostages are released. but it is theoretical until it is implemented. and we know that these conversations are ongoing, but
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it doesn't seem like we're heading in the direction of any eminent cease-fire because people don't know where this is ending up. and just yesterday prime minister netanyahu said that even when this is over, he doesn't envision a palestinian state. he would not accept a palestinian state. that has drawn criticism from the united states, which is surprising many people where i am right now. i'm in amman, jordan. and people here are watching prime minister netanyahu say things like this, not the first time the government said that he opposes a palestinian state at the end of a peace process, at the end of a war, but they don't understand why when he's saying something that so flies in the face of what the biden administration clearly wants that the administration continues to give netanyahu's government such blanket support. >> richard engel in jordan, thank you very much. and breaking news at this hour,
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the new york attorney general's office just released video of donald trump's april 2023 deposition in his civil fraud trial. want to bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. what did we learn from this deposition? >> we have seen the transcript before, but as you know, it is one thing to read about things trump says on paper, or even on social media, it is another thing entirely to watch his interactions with people or see his demeanor. one of the things that strikes me here is something that happens even before the substance of the deposition, when he has an exchange with attorney general letitia james who did not participate as counsel in the recently concluded trial. let's take a listen. >> you also have a right under the fifth amendment as you know to refuse to answer a question if a truthful answer would tend to incriminate you. do you understand that right? >> yes. >> okay. we understand from your counsel that you do not intend to
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categorically invoke your fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and will testify fully today. is that correct? >> yes. >> jose, after that exchange takes place, it is fair to say that president trump does testify more than fully. in fact, in many places he rambles about things having nothing to do with the lawsuit from avoiding a nuclear holocaust in north korea to the sale of his recent nfts, you'll remember, there are a number of nfts of former president trump and superhero poses and the like that they have sold as collectibles. there is another moment i find particularly interesting, where he's talking about his legal fees as one of his largest expenses. if we can take a listen to that too, i think our viewers would be interested. >> my biggest expense is probably legal fees. but fortunately that's okay. but we have a lot of cash. we have great assets.
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and we have a very valuable company. >> now, jose, that might not be surprising to people who have been following former president trump's legal travails. indeed, he has very high legal fees from all of the criminal investigations and civil cases he's litigating. the thing he doesn't say here is that many, if not most of those fees, are currently being paid by his pac or his campaign, i and others in the nbc and msnbc family have spent lots of time looking at s.e.c. filings, where you can see dispersements to the folks who have been his lawyers in this case particularly, alina habba, christopher kise, cliff robert. to hear him say that the trump organization's biggest expense and legal fees almost dropped my jaw, jose. >> lisa rubin, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, republican presidential candidate nikki haley doubling down on her remark that the united states says, quote, never been a racist
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>> trump says things, americans aren't stupid to just believe what he says. the reality is who lost the house for us? who lost the senate? who lost the white house? donald trump, donald trump, donald trump. >> joining us now, julian castro, msnbc political analyst. and amanda carpenter, writer and editor for project democracy. so, secretary, new numbers show haley's supporters in new hampshire more geared toward voting against trump than for her. is this a winning strategy? is this something that could give her a boost in this race? any way? >> well, as you know, jose, new hampshire is famous for its independents and being somewhat quirky, i guess you could say, when it comes to choosing their presidential winners. so nikki haley has to do whatever she can to try to appeal to this independent
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crowd. the challenge is for her, when you lose by more than 30 points in iowa and come in third at that, and the narrative had been that she might be able to beat desantis, what happened is that there has been a deflation in that enthusiasm and so i think it is going to be harder for her to attract those people that may have seen her as the anti-trump candidate. we see that in some of the polling. at one point, she was seven points within single digits of trump, and the latest poll has her falling to 17 points behind, with just a couple of days left until the primary. so, that combined with the fact that there is really a lack of enthusiasm for her, it is all about anti-trump, i don't think it looks good for her. i think that this criticism she's going after trump with is too little, too late. it is hard to get that kind of momentum after you finished third. we'll see what happens. >> yeah, amanda, republicans have lost the popular vote multiple times over recent election cycles. how do you think this concern about electability will play
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with voters? >> yeah, i mean, i think certainly the electability argument plays with the big donor crowd, traditional republicans who are eager to get on the winning team in the end, but that is not where the base of the party is, that's not where the enthusiasm is. that's not where a lot of support is. i was listening to a campaign reporter the other day. i thought she had amazing insight. she said, no matter where you go in the country, you know it is trump country because the flags are there. they have been there since 2016. they don't come up, come down. that's what's missing from her campaign, or any challenger in the republican field. there is not that close identification with the voters. there is not that enthusiasm, not that grassroots support. so, you know, while i think it is -- it says something good and you can definitely accuse me of looking -- squinting too hard to find a silver lining. if she's the one that comes in
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second in this race and does beat desantis and comes in ahead of vivek and other people who are much more trump-like, until a candidate can build real grassroots support around the country, it is going to be trump's party. >> and, julian, here is how haley responded last night to a question about the country's history with racism. take a listen. >> i understand you don't think america say racist country now. but we're here at a college, do you think as a historical matter, america has never been a racist country? >> i mean, think about what you're -- first of all, i will tell you, when you look at, you know, the declaration of independence, it was that, you know, men are created equal with unalienable rights, right? and my parents would say, you may have challenges. and, yes, there will be people who are racist. but that doesn't define what you can do in this country.
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>> so, haley clearly knows who her audience, her intended audience is, but how is she handling the issue of race in her campaign, julian? >> yeah, jose, this goes into the category of, you know, she needs to stop digging. she is just digging a worse and worse hole here. i know what she's doing. and what she's trying to do is she believes that this is what that maga base wants to hear and she's trying to peel off some of those folks. but her answer the other day and even her answer last night was ridiculous. it flies in the face of reality. anybody who knows anything about american history knows that racism played a big part of our history as a nation, even when she cites the declaration of independence and all men being created equal, in language and in substance, meant that women were not treated equally and not to mention african americans and people of color throughout the years. and even today that
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institutional racism still affects america. so, i think that perhaps she should have tried giving a more honest answer and leveling with voters and talking about how she was going to try and bring people together and to see the optimistic side of our country, which is there and all of the progress we have made. and make things better. she didn't do that. i think that this is a kind of thing that will turn off some of those independents in new hampshire that have qualms with a candidate that just seems like they're trying to play to a base that some of whom are racist. >> how do you see >> yeah. i mean, to me -- this seems like sort of like traditional campaign fodder. is it a gaff? does she mean it? people have disagreements about the subject. i listened to her town hall. she took questions for more than an hour and a half on a range of
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issues. what i think is really bothersome for her campaign and the things that on the top of the list that should matter for our country is the threat that donald trump poses. she has this line that she says in a lot of appearances, that chaos follows trump. who is chaos? this monster behind him when he was not the monster himself. that's why my group put out a big report yesterday that walks through the promises, plans and powers that trump would use in his next presidency to really dismantle democracy. if haley is going to run a losing campaign, make the arguments about what makes america work and lay the groundwork potentially to move on in 2028 if we can't move on right now. >> yes. but there's also the issue -- i think you will agree on this -- history is not gray matter.
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there is history and there are facts. >> sure. >> you can choose to not see them or not read them. but they are there. anyway, secretary castro and amanda carpenter, thank you. up next, the dangerous rescue of a young girl trapped in an icy pond. another scare in the sky. that's a 747, flames coming out of one of its engines. talk about what happened there next. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. that's why my go to is nurtec odt. it's the only migraine medication that can treat and prevent my attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. now i'm in control. with nurtec odt i can treat
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the plane returned to miami safely. no one was injured. a preliminary examination revealed a softball-size hole above the number two engine according to a source familiar with the investigation. they say the plane experienced an engine malfunction and they will conduct a thorough investigation. this happened weeks after a panel blew off a different boeing aircraft in the air, a 737 max 9. turning to the frigid cold and snowy weather affecting millions. 95 million people arender winter weather alerts today. 59 million are under winter chill alerts. the weather being blamed for nearly 50 deaths this week. the oregon governor issued a statewide emergency because of of a severe ice storm there. we have good news to wrap up our hour this morning.
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it was all captured on video. a vermont state trooper saved an 8-year-old girl trapped in a frozen pond. >> reporter: when michelle archer arrived on scene at this frozen pond, she feared it was already too late. >> i saw this call come up on the screen. 6-year-old floating in a pond. possibly deceased. >> reporter: minutes earlier, an 8-year-old and her sibling plunged into the water after the ice cracked. the 80-year-old property owner able to save the younger child near the shore. but the 8-year-old unreachable, near the center of the pond. >> i don't know if it's instinct or training, something took over. >> reporter: once on scene, trooper archer swimming toward the child. she drags the girl to shore,
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putter her on her side. then the re -- remarkable realization. she was alive. >> i pulled her out of the water and heard the audible noises. at that point, i wasn't sure if she was still breathing or not. >> she's making noises. >> reporter: trooper archer calling for her colleague to help. >> baby girl. >> reporter: the trooper making sure the 8-year-old was okay and taking her to an ambulance. >> we cover a wide area. for whatever reason, the both of us were three minutes away from this pond where this little girl needed help. >> reporter: the child taken to a hospital with injuries that at first were thought to be life-threatening. amazingly, she made a full recovery and is now back home. >> how is the other one? >> she's cold. >> reporter: they recommend the
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two troopers and the 80-year-old property owner for the agency's life saving award. >> we come across calls that stick with us for a while, if not for the length of our careers and beyond. this is definitely one of those calls that we will always be thinking about. >> extraordinary, an 8-year-old saved. thanks for that report. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. i will see you tomorrow night. reach me on social media @jdbalart. watch clips from the show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," with just four days to go until the new hampshire primary, nikki haley launches a campaign blitz after criticism she was missing in action following her defeat in iowa. as former president trump

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