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warning of chaos and bedlam if he's barred from the ballot. his argument to the supreme court in a case that could impact all 50 states. plus, house republicans get their wish. why hunter biden has agreed to a closed-door deposition following weeks of defiance. a disturbing report from gaza, the graves dug up by israeli soldiers. we'll tell you exactly what they were looking for. and 100 million people in the path of severe winter weather. it's already caused a plane to slide off an icy runway. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. but speaking of planes, we have this breaking news. let me show you a live picture that is coming to us from nbc 4 in washington. yes, that is what it looks like. that is a small private plane that had to make an emergency landing. this is in loudoun county, on loudoun county parkway earlier this afternoon. no injuries are reported, but this is very close to dulles

airport. we don't know why this plane had to land on the highway, but winter weather has caused traffic havoc all throughout that area. they forced a ground stop at reagan national airport on friday morning. we're going to continue to follow this. it's interesting that pete buttigieg is talking about the fact that highly trained pilots can make all the difference, and it looks as though this emergency ended at least safely, if not, you can imagine what the cars that are going in the other direction are thinking right now. let's go now to donald trump's warnings of what will happen if he's disqualified from state ballots. ryan reilly joins us now. what did it say in the latest filing. >> that this essentially could unleash bedlam across the country. the filing said the court so you would put a swift and decisive end to the ballot disqualification efforts, which would threaten to disenfranchise

millions of americans and unleash bedlam if other states follow colorado's lead, and exclusively the likely republican presidential nominee, exclude the likely presidential nominee from their ballots. donald trump also went on fox and had this to say. >> well, we put on three great justices, and you have some other great justices up there, and they're not going to take the vote away from the people. right now, you saw in the history of the iowa primary, i mean, the history of it, it goes back a long time, i won by the most. i'm sure the supreme court is going to say, we're not going to take the vote away from the people. >> so sort of pointing out that these individuals on the court are there because of him. a wink and a nod, sort of a nudge in the ribs there saying hey, you know, i put you on the bench there. he thinks they sort of owe him something. you know, the supreme court, i do think is probably likely, you

know, legal scholars say this is a tough issue for them to take on, the 14th amendment challenges, but, you know, obviously this would be a huge thing were states to be able to exclude donald trump to the ballots and would have, potentially, these really big consequences in the real world, chris. >> without a doubt. ryan reilly, thank you for that update. let's go to capitol hill now, where a date has been set for hunter biden to sit down behind closed doors with house republicans. nbc's ryan nobles is there for us. ryan, hunter biden had previously said he would only testify publicly. we reported on that a lot. what happened? >> essentially it came down to the fact that house republicans were willing to move forward with a contempt of congress charge against hunter biden and hunter biden's lawyers recognized the stakes there and also compelled the committee to issue a new subpoena after the full house had voted for the impeachment inquiry and that's led to the place we are now, both sides felt comfortable with hunter biden appearing for a

closed door deposition. listen to how the chairman framed these negotiations to me yesterday. >> they knew that merrick garland would have to prosecute hunter for being held in contempt of congress, and i think that abbe lowell got the message and that's why he came back and said we'll do everything you ask, we'll come in for a deposition. >> reporter: now, of course hunter biden serves as an important piece in the broader impeachment inquiry republicans are conducting, one that at this point has yet to show any hard evidence that connects the president to his son's business dealings, particularly while he was a candidate for office or serving in public office. i asked the chairman if hunter biden tells you that his father had nothing to do with business dealings, will that draw the investigation to a close? he argued they have evidence in other areas that would allow

them to make the case without hunter biden's testimony supporting it. it's clear that the impeachment inquiry is at a crucial stage where there isn't necessarily the votes to file articles of impeachment, and republicans are still in search of that evidence that would allow them to get to that place. it's an open question as to whether or not they will ever get there. chris. >> let me ask you about secretary of state lloyd austin being called before congress. what's the latest there? >> reporter: this is members of the house asking for lloyd austin to come before them on valentine's day, february 14th and answer questions about his health issues and the fact that he did not inform the white house that he was not going to be available. at his post as defense secretary for an extended period of time. republicans want answers but also democrats want answers why this turned out the way it did. democrats say they are in receipt of that request for the defense secretary to participate in this hearing. itst not clear whether or not he

intends to do so, but there's no doubt that in the near future he's going to be forced to answer questions from members of congress. the question is whether or not it happens in the senate or house first, but it will happen soon, chris. >> ryan nobles, thank you. let's go to gaza where the israeli military explains why they have been digging up graves in gaza. raf sanchez joins us from tel aviv. what more can you tell us about this, raf? >> reporter: over the last couple of months, we have seen this disturbing trend, israeli forces raiding and in some cases damaging graveyards inside of gaza. you can see it in satellite imagery, where some of the graveyards being bulldozed and individual graves being dug up. palestinians say they believe it's part of a systematic israeli attempt to literally wipe gaza off the face of the earth.

they say that not even the dead are safe from israeli forces, but when we asked the idf what is going on here, they sent us kind of a surprising answer, and i want to read you just a little bit of the statement they gave us. they said when critical intelligence or operational information is received, the idf conducts precise hostage rescue operations in the specific locations where information indicates that the bodies of hostages may be located. in other words, saying they are going into these graveyards because they have intelligence that indicates that there may be the bodies of hostages mingled in and among palestinian civilians, palestinian militants being buried in these graveyards. the idf not saying whether they have actually found any bodies in these graveyards. over the last couple of weeks, they have found a number of hostages dead. it is worth noting, chris, three months into the war, the israeli

military has only been able to rescue one hostage alive inside of gaza. they say, though, that the military pressure they're putting on hamas is what forced hamas to the negotiating table and led to the hostage releases back in november and may do again sometime soon, chris. >> we also learned in just the past two hours, that president biden and prime minister netanyahu spoke for the first time in 26 days, and it comes right after netanyahu said he told his, quote, american friends that he opposes any plans for a palestinian state after the war. give us a little more context of that. >> reporter: yeah, this is really notable, chris, in the immediate aftermath of october 7th, the hamas terrorist attacks, prime minister netanyahu speaking on a daily basis. it has been nearly a month since the two men spoke, and it comes at a moment of heightened tension between israel and the united states. prime minister netanyahu who leads this far right government here in israel saying they will not allow a palestinian state on

their watch. that is a point of sharp disagreement with the biden administration who says that the palestinians deserve a state of their own, and say that israel will never really have security as long as it continues the occupation of the palestinians, denies them state hood. it remains a source of tension. it's worth saying it's been a source of tension for a long time, even before october 7th. the white house is saying that tonight's call was preplanned. this was not a direct rebuke scheduled after the prime minister's comments last night, but you can bet that this was one of the topics discussed. >> raf sanchez, thank you for that. right now, severe weather is affecting a huge swath of the country. nbc's george solis is in philadelphia. schools are closed, businesses are shut down for a snow emergency. george looks very very cold. it's messy there in some cases. it's going to be dangerous around the country. what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, chris, one of

the ways we're keeping warm here is we have a shovel handy. we're digging ourself out. anytime the clips of snow start to accumulate. we're expecting anywhere between 5 to 8 inches in pockets of the philadelphia area here, and as you mentioned, schools are closed, so they have been salting the roadways, salting the sidewalks here, urging people to stay home, and because a lot of people work virtually, a lot of people are staying home. they have been to a park nearby where there are a bunch of kids sledding. some people are ejoying these conditions. of course we know snow like this can be treacherous. a plane slid off a runway. 50 people on board. fortunately they were all okay. more dramatic images in kentucky where we saw four college students that were rescued after reaching the pinnacle of the red river gorge there. they were rescued. kentucky state police releasing video of the dramatic rescues of all four of those students. amazingly they are all expected to be okay. some of the conditions there, very treacherous as well. of course we know conditions like this, really pretty.

can look like reporting from the inside of a snow globe, when that weather picks up, these inches accumulate. it's a real problem. as we have seen in western new york, feet and feet of snow have been falling, it is going to be a big problem. some people can't get to their door steps. in the philadelphia region, 5 to 6 inches, significant when you consider that a lot of people in this region haven't seen that kind of snowfall in about two years. others heeding the warnings, making sure they got their supplies ahead of the storment making sure their tools are handy, and some people enjoying the snow day. we'll have to wait and see, once the snow begins to taper later this afternoon, and how those temperatures begin to plunge, and how that's going to factor in when you start thinking about the icy and slick conditions that's going to make travel this weekend a little bit more challenging, chris. >> you and your crew stay warm out there and stay safe. george solis. thank you. and still ahead, will a scandal involving the d.a. prosecuting donald trump in georgia put the case in jeopardy? also coming up right after the break, we're going to give

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we're back with more on the breaking news on the small plane that made an emergency landing on the highway in virginia. i want to bring in nbc's jay blackman who has new information for us. what do we know about this? >> this was southern airline express. a caravan that can hold up to nine passengers and a crew. it took off from dulles just after 12:50 this morning. and doesn't seem to have gotten a lot of altitude. it landed on the loudoun county parkway. we are getting here in d.c. some

light snow, and we have been getting light snow all day. not clear yet if weather was a factor in this. >> i'm understanding, jay, that our nbc 4 washington is interviewing a witness right now. let's see if we can go to that. >> thank you so much for your time. so nice to meet you. take care. >> that didn't last very long. we lost that shot, but she said it was absolutely shocking to see. again, the important thing to say that doesn't seem there were any injuries there. but again, traffic tied up in one direction there on the loudoun county parkway. jay blackman, my old friend from d.c., thank you for that. there's been a string of rapid fire developments in georgia making the already complicated rico case against donald trump and his codefendants a lot more complex. at the heart of those developments is the d.a. herself, fani willis. we have now learned that there will be a hearing next month on accusations she is having an improper relationship with her colleague, special prosecutor

nathan wade, and now she's been subpoenaed to testify in wade's divorce, although neither of them have confirmed any romantic relationship. willis asked the court to quash that subpoena, arguing that it's simply an attempt to harass her and damage her reputation. willis also alleges that wade's estranged wife conspired to people linked with trump's election interference case, including the man who made the allegation, to annoy and embarrass her. and that's all on top of what's happening today which is a hearing involving a different trump codefendant. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander who's following all of this from fulton county, melissa redman, former fulton county deputy d.a. and msnbc legal analyst is with us as well. i understand there was a brand new filing related to the allegations of a romantic relationship. what does that filing say? >> well, chris, the filing was just made today in the past few

hours in the cobb county superior court. this was directly filed as it relates to wade's ongoing divorce proceedings. it is important to note that nbc news has not directly obtained these filings, but according to a report, the filings basically show bank records that show that nathan wade, the special prosecutor hired by the district attorney's office to prosecute these charges against trump and others purchased airline tickets for the two of them to go to california, miami, destinations, those were the two that were named, so those were certainly things that were alleged in that initial filing last week where all of these explosive claims came. and so now the bank records appear to kind of back that up. again, this was filed as part of the ongoing divorce proceedings. i've reached out to the attorney for wade's estranged wife to get comment, to get any sort of further context there but haven't heard back from her. all of this kind of plays into what i've called a very

unexpected side show here in fulton county, but certainly does not make it any less impactful. we do know that the judge is going to be hearing about this, have a hearing on this on february 15th. that's when roman's attorney says that she plans to bring forth more evidence to back up these explosive claims she's made of an alleged romantic relationship between the two. it's important to point out in the filing that came out last week, she did not sign direct evidence, citing only people with knowledge of the situation, and so far we have been in touch with the d.a.'s office nearly every day since the allegations came out. they are not commenting directly but said there will be a filed response and a judge has set that deadline for the response to be filed by february 2nd, chris. >> thank you so much for that breaking news. we appreciate it. so melissa, willis says all of this is just an attack on her reputation. she also argues that her testimony isn't relative because both parties have agreed to a divorce. the "atlanta journal-constitution" quotes,

why would her truthful testimony damage her reputation. we believe willis's filing is a direct attempt to avoid answering the questions mr. roman's has raised, she appears to be doing everything she can to avoid having to account for inconvenient and difficult factings. legally speaking, relevancy could be different, obviously, whether you're talking about a divorce case or involvement in a criminal case. how do these two things, though, the subpoena to testify in wade's divorce, allegations of an improper relationship, potentially overlap. >> well, we know that the d.a. has not comments on the existence of this relationship, whether she has confirmed or denied the relationship exists. of course the divorce filings in the cobb county go to that, whether or not the bank records or anything else in the divorce filing prove or substantiate there is a personal relationship, and then in the fulton county case, what effect that personal relationship may have on the prosecution of the

case. so i think the d.a.'s response, she hasn't responded yet, but i would imagine it would indicate, well, none of this is relevant to the central issue of this prosecution. none of this affects how we came to this prosecution, how these particular defendants ended up being charged, and so because we're devilling into my personal life, it's for the purpose of embarrassing me. i suppose that would be her argument. of course there's always going to be the question of the judgment of the d.a. prosecuting a case, and that's what mr. romans' attorney is getting at. if you are making these types of decisions with personal interest in mind, then that is unfair to my client. judge mcafee is going to have to flush out all of that, whether or not it matters if there was a personal relationship. if the personal relationship did exist, how or if it expects mr. romans' right to a fair trial.

>> it is important to note, and this is what some people have pointed out, it's maybe not just aboutom kind of relationship but the court filing also suggests that the relationship resulted in both of them profiting significantly from this prosecution at the expense of taxpayers that he was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, these records now coming out in the divorce case, about payment for plane tickets a hotel room. we don't know anything about whether they were together or took that together, but as taxpayers look at this and if there are questions raised, does that become a problem, and if so, is it a pr problem or potentially a legal one? >> exactly. that's the question. a pr problem, because if you're hiring someone you are in a relationship with, did you hire them because of that relationship. that's one question. the legal issue is but for this relationship or is there

anything about this relationship that affects how or why these particular defendants are being prosecuted, and i think that's where the disconnect lies. i think judge mcafee's concerns is going to be tell me how this relationship, if it exists, and i don't know if he's going to get into whether or not it exists, but tell me how, if this relationship exists, how it affects this case being prosecuted. i think this is a very different case than we have seen where the d.a.'s office was disqualified. you had opposing sides, the d.a. having a fundraiser for someone in direct opposition to someone she was prosecuting. that's a clearer difference. now you have two individuals on the same side of the case, and it's going to be difficult for the defense to point to how, whatever is going on on this side of the table, the outside of the courtroom affects what happens inside of the courtroom. of course, from a pr, or from an

hr perspective, human resources perspective, there may be issues that mr. wade and d.a. willis have to explain whether or not there's any benefit, and it doesn't really matter what the benefit is. the question is going to be has there been personal benefit a particular contract to a particular person. i still think that it has to be a nexus to the relationship, the personal benefit and the case, and i think that's what justice mcafee, i expect that's what he's going to focus on on the 15th. >> melissa, thank you for that. protesters braving wintry d.c. weather. schools were closed but they were on the march for an issue that will be a driving force in the 2024 campaign. and remember the infamous case of scott peterson? well, it's back in the headlines after more than two decades. why the l.a. innocence project now wants to represent the convicted killer. that's next. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free.

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when donald trump returns to the e. jean carroll trial, he'll be backed by a lawyer who the judge admonished about going back to evidence 101 and who legal analysts had described as barrassing and inexperienced. according to "business insider" alina habba was admonished by judge kaplan 14 times on her first day alone in what they described as basic lawyering,

prompting news week to ask today, why doesn't trump have better lawyers? i want to bring in former fbi general counsel and nyu law professor, andrew weissmann who was watching all of this unfold inside court yesterday, and nbc's vaughn hillyard who has been following the trump campaign. he's in concord, new hampshire. so andrew, i normally don't play video of people back to themselves, but something you said late yesterday is what got me thinking about that question posed by "news week," why doesn't trump have better lawyers. so here's what you said yesterday. >> as a lawyer, it was very painful to watch. alina habba, maybe she's a very good lawyer in different settings, other settings other than inside a courtroom, but she is not a trial lawyer, and so what was painful to see is that she does not know the rules of evidence. there was a lot of schooling of that and the judge i think being

incredibly patient with somebody who did not know the rules seemed to make no effort to know the rules. >> take whatever you're feelings about donald trump are out of this, what went through my mind is he's the former president of the united states, he is the leading republican candidate for president, and this is who he has defending him. she's not a trial lawyer. so why is she there? i mean, what was your impression? is this a recruitment problem? i'm just trying to get to the overall question of how often do you see something like this, andrew, especially at this level of a defendant? >> that's the shocking part. there are situations where somebody is not a trial lawyer, and yet they go and they put themselves in a position of having to do a trial. but it's usually not the former president of the united states. we're used to the former presidents and the current

presidents having what everyone considers, whether you consider them conservative or liberal, you just see the very very top cream of the crop lawyering on sort of all sides, when it comes to that kind of litigation. and so this, i think, one possible explanation is if you remember joe tacopina used to be the lawyer, at least seemed to be the lead lawyer on this case, and he only recently withdrew from the case. so that may be a partial explanation for, you know, what's going on. one thing i will say just on the specific, which is -- i'm sort of chalking up to being performative, if you do not know the rules of evidence. if you do not know how to get documents into evidence and cross examine, and the judge in this instance, i thought was trying to help out by saying this is what you need to do, you

know, show the witness the document. ask the witness whether she recognizes it, your response should be thanking the judge or be grateful and instead there was a display of sort of haughtiness and animosity that i could only think was performative because it's just not a normal reaction. i think any of us going into that situation would be embarrassed by not knowing the rules of the road and putting ourselves in that situation. but it really is a sign that donald trump is not able to and doesn't seem willing to get that, you know, sort of the cream of the crop. and i think there are a variety of reasons for that. some of that is he may not want lawyers who are independent and there are also those kinds of lawyers at the top of their game who are only going to take on

clients who are willing to listen to their advice. otherwise they should go get somebody else as a lawyer. >> vaughn, i wonder what is going on here. i mean, i think we have a long list of lawyers who have either left or who donald trump has fired. is it that he's hiring based on a loyalty test, is it a legal strategy, is it people who are unhappy about not having gotten paid? what's happening? >> alina habba is somebody who not only inside of the courtroom, but also outside of the courtroom in front of cameras gives a striking confidencend a defense of donald trump that doesn't give a single inch. much like donald trump himself. you look at the fact she also represented him in a n york civil fraud trial, alongside chris kise who was the one time florida solicitor general, somebody who was widely

respected frida, and chris kise, i was there outside of the courthouse the dayonald trump testified in november answering questions from letitia james' prosecutors. chris kise comes out and told us upon my asking that he was the best witness that he had brought to the stand in over 30 years, which warranted a chuckle because the judge inside of that courtroom, who was going to be determining donald trump's punishment directly told donald trump that he had no option but to draw negative inferences from his answers when you go and look at the fact that what he wants is a loyalty and fealty to him. and a defense attorney down in georgia, as soon as donald trump was indicted by fulton county prosecutors, drew findland was thrown off the cliff. and evan corcoran, he was forced to testify to a federal grand jury under the crime fraud exemption. but then also you have the likes of christina bob who signed an

affidavit from the fbi saying that all the relevant documents, all the classified documents had been turned over when, in fact, that wasn't the case, and other high profile lawyers including white house counsel don mcgahn who was brought into the middle of the fire storm when he acknowledged to congressional investigators that donald trump pressured him to try to remove robert mueller as the special counsel. but also path cipollone, and pat philbin, the white house counsel and deputy counsel at the end of donald trump's administration, they were forced to also go and testify before a federal grand jury related to the federal election interference investigation. so often these lawyers for donald trump, they become more than just defense lawyers, but also they become the middle of these investigations and in the case of rudy giuliani, sidney powell, and kenneth chesebro, they become indicted targets themselves. >> andrew, let me go back to yesterday for a moment. there was a moment i want to

point to when e. jean carroll's lawyer objected in court, and the judge asks what's the objection, and carroll's lawyer says i don't know what she's talking about, to which the judge responds, neither do i. so help me understand how that might play with a jury? these folks almost certainly have never sat through a trial before. they don't have a basis for comparison. is it possible to predict the impact of this kind of back and forth, admonishment, questioning whether someone knows what they're doing might have on them. >> well, it's not supposed to. the judge is going to give an instruction that it is not the questions that a lawyer asks. whether there is an answer or whether there's an objection that's sustained, it is the answer from the under oath from the witness stand that are the evidence that they have to rely on. and i think by and large, jurors

are very good at separating out the performance of lawyers, you know, as a lawyer, i always like to think, oh, my performance really makes a difference, and it's going to really change the case, but very often, it really is the facts, and so the quality of the lawyering is not so much, can they ask a good question and is the judge sustaining or objecting, it's how good are they at presenting the facts and bringing out relevant evidence and getting documents admitted and doing an effective cross-examination. i think this sort of -- these atmospherics are ones that i think we, because we've seen so many cases, and certainly i have, you know, it's easy to sort of react to it as a professional matter, but ultimately it's a question of what do the facts show and how do they relate to the legal instructions that the judge is going to give. i think if i were looking at atmospherics, i would probably

look more to donald trump's own antics when he was present in court as potentially having an effect on the jury because that could really be something that plays in the political realm but can really backfire, you're really playing with fire by doing that in front of a jury. because it could really rub people the wrong way. remember, in this case, the judge has already told this jury based on a trial, where donald trump could have his day in court where the jury unanimously found that he sexually assaulted e. jean carroll. so that is a given going into this, based on a trial and a finding by a jury. so in that situation, having somebody engage in what could be perceived as childish antics, and temper tantrums and

disrespectful to the witness, you have been told that the jury has to agree and it finds that she has been sexually assaulted. i think that's where i'd be concerned about, you know, the jury looking at, and they're entitled to look into the courtroom and see the way he's behaving and to -- have that be an impression that stays with him. >> more about her than him. that's so interesting. i used to cover quite a few trials and the two greatest performances i ever saw by lawyers, they both lost the case, so there you go. andrew weissmann and vaughn hillyard, thank you so much. still ahead, a massive anti-abortion rally in snowy d.c. what the marchers are demanding from the presidential candidates after this. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools, like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis, help make trading feel effortless. and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market. e*trade from morgan stanley. here's to getting better with age.

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a new biden campaign memo obtained by nbc news is warning that this year's election will determine the fate of women's reproductive rights. that memo reads when americans go to the polls on election day, they will go knowing that the fate of every american woman's freedom to make her own health care decisions is on the line. the biden campaign is pledging to spend the next ten months tying abortion bans to trump's rhetoric on the issue. in the meantime, on the streets of washington, thousands of antiabortion protesters gathered for the annual march for life. this is an issue that fueled democratic wins in 2022, but that republicans hope can also

fuel their grass roots enthusiasm in 2024. nbc's julia jester is reporting from the national mall in washington, d.c. i just got this release with the headline, more than 65 million babies have been aborted in the u.s. since 1973. it is not uncommon for abortion opponents to put that out to use numbers like that to frame their argument. but i wonder if the marchers who you're talking to are talking about if abortion is going to either influence their vote or get them to volunteer in 2024? >> reporter: yeah, chris, the overturning of roe has not stopped the march for life, neither has a little bit of snow. demonstrators here, we have spoken with many of them throughout the day, and for them, abortion is still not just a salient issue, it is their top issue. here's a bit of our conversations that we've had. >> if donald trump's on the

ballot, i'll probably vote for him, but whatever the most against abortion is, that seems to be my biggest thing is gun rights and abortion. >> reporter: do you think former president trump is the strongest on abortion? >> in the past, i believe he tried. he did not get as well as i hoped. >> reporter: if former president trump is the nominee or the candidate, would you consider volunteering? >> if he is as gung ho and pushing for this as i am, probably so. >> what would you like to see perhaps be the current or next president do? >> well, i think he should just, i mean, the states are -- most of the states are overturning it, i think that's good. whoever is next should just continue to push it to overturn it in every state and just make it happen. >> reporter: would you say that this is a top political issue for you when you vote? >> yes, it is. >> reporter: is there anything else that comes close? >> honestly, no.

>> reporter: now, you have to keep in mind, these are the most fervent, anti-abortion rights supporters here. this is not representative of the general electorate and for marchers here, they're going to vote for pretty much any republican on the ballot, and they worry, though, that abortion could be a problematic issue in terms of getting their anti-abortion rights candidates in office. they are concerned about the backlash we have seen since roe especially in the midterms. chris. >> julia jester out on a very cold day in washington. thank you. we also have breaking news, this just came in, it involves alec baldwin. a garage has indicted the actor for involuntary manslaughter involving the death of cinematographer who was killed after baldwin's prop gun fired a live round of ammunition on the set of "rust," a previous charge had been dismissed last spring after the government's case

against baldwin broke down. we're talking about a case in which he could face 18 months in prison. this is just breaking, so when this might go to trial or what might happen here, we just don't know. coming up, can former president trump gin up the kind of support that gave him a victory there back in 2016? we'll take you to new hampshire. , and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once? i like to do things myself. no machine is better than me. kayak. search one and done.

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arguments that you're hearing from other candidates like nikki haley aren't landing with them. listen to some of our exchanges. >> under her, you would have the same policies or similar policies but less chaos, why doesn't that argument work for you. >> it doesn't work for me because president trump isn't creating the chaos. he is the recipient of the chaos. >> the illegals and the utilities and the economy is the biggest factors for me. >> reporter: that's why you're backing donald trump? >> yeah. >> reporter: why donald trump? >> donald trump, because i want a closed border, i want to feel safe again and i want to enforce law and order of the land. >> reporter: did you ever consider any of the other candidates in the primary? >> i haven't considered anyone until donald trump walked down that elevator in 2015. >> reporter: now, in new hampshire, just as he mobilizes, just as trump mobilizes his supporters to come out, there's also evidence that he mobilizes people who are fervently against

him. and that's something that nikki haley is definitely counting on, especially when you have so many independent or undeclared voters in this state. >> shaq brewster, always good to see you. thank you. donald trump jr. says a big name conservative pundit is on his dad's vp short list. >> i would love to see a tucker carlson. i would love to see people who are principally, you know, in alignment as well as, like, aggressive. you actually need a fighter. the republicans in washington, d.c. are weak. you can have the house, the senate and they'll still roll over. >> don, is your dad serious about tucker carlson? are those rumors serious? >> clearly it would be on the table, right. they're very friendly. i think they agree on virtually all of these things. they certainly agree on stopping the never ending wars, and, so you know, i would love to see that happen, and, you know, that would certainly be a contender. >> well, the other name with ep buzz right now congresswoman elise stefanik who will be with trump in new hampshire. nbc reporting this week, trump

admiring her questioning of the ivy league presidents reportedly calling her a killer. joining me now, geoff bennett, coanchor of the pbs news hour, geoff, trump previously suggested he had picked his vp, what's with all the speculation. would he possibly consider someone as divisive as tucker carlson? >> you know, it's hard to tell, chris. i mean, donald trump has been known to crowd source selections for everything from cabinet secretaries to supreme court nominees to vice presidential picks. so the idea that he is considering someone like tucker carlson, i wouldn't necessarily rule it out. but donald trump did say that he has in mind selecting a woman to serve as his vice presidential ticket. and you mentioned elise stefanik who over the last several years has really rebranded herself and shifted to the right to have a higher profile in the trump era. it might be hard to believe this now, but back in 2012, she was actually a moderate, and she worked on mitt romney's presidential campaign.

but after 2016 when donald trump won, that really started her rightward shift. she has served on donald trump's impeachment defense team, and she actually even endorsed him for the presidency before he even launched his campaign in 2024. and so we know that whereas typically with vice presidential selections it comes down to whether someone would be a good governing partner, whether or not someone is able to step into the presidency at a moment's notice. for donald trump, the first characteristic on his list is loyalty. loyalty not to the office of the presidency, not to the country or the constitution, but loyalty to him, and elise stefanik certainly meets that bar. >> and moments ago, nbc news confirmed that nikki haley says being vice president is off the table. ron desantis also says he's not interested in the >> my goal is to win the nomination. i don't want to be vp i don't want to be in the cabinet. i don't want a tv show. i' i it to win it. and at some point, if tt's not

working out for you, i recognize that, this isn't a vanity thing for me. i believe that we have an opportunity in november to do very very well. >> so, look, geoff, they might deny interest but in the past it's in the been uncommon for a nominee to tap a former competitor. obama picks biden, biden picks kamala harris, and so on. denials aside, could you imagine donald trump picking one of his rivals that's been critical of him? >> no, i can't see that happening. although, you could make the argument, chris that he would be wise to potentially pick a nikki haley. donald trump has a ceiling problem and this has gotten lost in some of the coverage because we're of course focused on the republican primary, and yes, he has cemented his lead among republicans, but if you look at the general election, if you look forward to the general election, assuming he is the nominee, he has not, in poll after poll, really exceeding his standing that he had back in 2020. and so in some ways, he needs a

figure like a nikki haley who can make some serious appeal to moderates and independents to help smooth out so many of the rough edges and baggage, and all of the questions that donald trump raises when the general electorate is going to have to pick between him and joe biden. >> time will tell, and geoff bennett, always good to see you. it was the case that captured the headlines across the country in the early 250s, the murder of lacy peterson and her unborn child. now her husband scott has the help of the innocence project. >> a new twist in a notorious murder trial, the los angeles innocence project taking up the case of convicted killer scott peterson. he's currently serving a life sentence without patrol for the 2022 murder of his wife lacy who was eight months pregnant with

their unborn child. investigators say peterson dumped their bodies from the fishing boat into san francisco bay where they surfaced months later. peterson was convicted in 2024, and sentenced to death the following year. the case capturing the nation's attention, inspiring countless books and tv shows. in 2020, california supreme court overturned his death sentence, citing jury selection errors by the trial judge. peterson was resentenced to life without patrol but denied a new trial in 2022. in court filings including a motion for new dna testing, the l.a. innocence project says new evidence now supports mr. peterson's long standing claim of innocence. attorneys citing updated witness statements are pointing to several areas of interest, among them, a burglary the week of the murder across the street from the peterson's home. they say lacy may have witnessed

the men breaking into the house. they're also looking at this burned out orange van nearby, which they say contained a bloodstained mattress. the innocence project wants to conduct new dna testing to determine if it was lacy peterson's blood. the new motion revolves around a theory that lacy peterson was killed by burglars. >> if you find the same dna on the items from the medina burglary from the van and from the shore of san francisco bay, that's the story line. >> peterson's attorney says his team is very excited to have the l.a. innocence project lend their considerable expertise to helping prove scott peterson's innocence. scott peterson's family has long believed he was long believed -- wrongly convicted! including supporting different hair colors and carrying $10,000

in cash when he was arrested not far from the u.s./mexico border demonstrated his guilt. >> liz kreutz reporting, and that's going to do it for us on a very busy friday. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. in just 30 minutes, steve kornacki is going to answer all of your new hampshire primary questions. that begins streaming live on msnbc's official you tube channel at 3:30 eastern. but first, "katy tur reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good to be with you, i'm katy tur. this is a good day because we are about to em bark on my absolute favorit thing, the reason i studied philosophy, the reason i wanted to be a lawyer, we are going to dissect a single sentence, okay, two sentences. seriously, though, this is great because the words in question in these sentences are perhaps