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folks. we are just three days from the 2024 new hampshire primary. tuesy's elections can serve as the last chance for donald trump's republican challengers to change the dynamics of the race. with the landscape, it doesn't look like this primary will make it out of january. a new bost globe suffolk university poll finds trump leading both nikki haley and ron desantis by double digits in the state. trump is 52%, haley at 35%, and ron desantis adjusts 6%. other polls show almost exactly the same results. let's just be very clear, this is a make-or-break contest for the haley campaign. cnbc reports haley's deep pocket donors want her to win om a very close second to prove she has what it takes to defeat donald trump at the ballot box. as for desantis, he is not even in new hampshire today. instead he is focusing on courting even delicate voters of haley's home state of south

carolina. with all of that, when it comes to new hampshire, you might be asking yourself, well, what should we even care? it is a small state, less than 1 million and a half people. 93% of the state is white. not exactly reflective of the rest of the country. folks, when results started coming in there are a few lessons about november's general election we can learn from the minds of independent voters. unlike iowa, independents can vote on tuesday. about 40% of granite state voters are independents, or undeclared. outpacing those who are registered as democrats or republicans. 342,192 folks in the state to be exact. this election will be much more reflective of the country. after all, independent voters will be key and helping determine the outcomes of tight races a battlegrounds like arizona, georgia, wisconsin. let's not forget, there is a senate seat in new hampshire. when it comes to these live free or die hard voters in the

state they seem to rather have joe biden in -- the new poll finds 42% of new hampshire voters would pick biden over trump and i have political rematch. for the record, the same poll shows nikki haley over biden. nbc news is vaughn hillyard is in manchester, new hampshire, right now. von, you look a lot warmer than iowa. very good to see you. you have been on the ground in new hampshire. you have done some great interviews out there. great exchange with elise stefanik about the carol king case. pressing her for some details while she was campaigning on behalf of trump. give us the lay of the land. i mean, this is the last contest, if you will. if no one catches up to trump, is it over after new hampshire? >> if he blows nikki haley out of the water, it is difficult to see how nikki haley or ron desantis could handle the next month as any for the ground.

the reporting in south carolina indicates that donald trump is up anywhere to 30 to 40 points here. when we are looking at new hampshire it says independent voters, the question is, can they save the day? this is a dynamic where we have a body of evidence of trump related primaries. in 2022 they traveled the country going the likes of arizona, ohio, pennsylvania. every step of the way those trump backed primary candidates won. the maga influence and the republican electorate was too strong to overcome any independent influence in the primaries. that is what we are looking at here now in new hampshire. i will use the liz cheney example, as well. i covered her primary against hearing. men statistics show that anywhere between 14% of independents may have given liz cheney a boost in that race. she still lost by 39 points. the question here is, in new hampshire, are there enough anti trump independents to come

and sway? this democrats, it is too late for them to change the registration. at this point in time the situation for nikki haley, even if she does come close, or, when it's difficult. in primaries ahead, independents and a great mayor states are not able to vote in republican primaries. in the case of south carolina where they are able to, democrats are pushing for democrats to come in and vote for joe biden in the democratic primary. which would keep that in the republican party. that was a really tough strategy for nickel having to deploy to try to actually pull off a win against donald trump. >> you referenced the exchange we had with elise stefanik. sergeant play a little bit for our viewers. take a listen. >> how are you standing by sign his side while if the jury is just meeting to award -- >> these are witchhunts against president trump. the media is so biased. this is just another example of the -- >> but what about e. jean carroll. it is not the media. it is a jury that decided that he sexually abused e. jean

carroll. >> the media is so out of touch with the american people, like 2016, you are going to see the american people speak out loudly and clearly with their vote. >> you make the correct point at the end there, ivan. this jury is not adjudicating what he did or did not do. they are trying to assess damage within this. case i do wonder, as you are new hampshire, the extent to what you are hearing or not hearing about all trump's legal woes. >> it is all part of, including the e jean carroll case. it is all part of the effort and so many of the sport's mind undercut his candidacy for the presidency of the united states. in the case of e jean carroll. i thought compelled asked elise to fonac, when donald trump's behalf, about the trial. a jury is currently debating what to award her for -- the judge has already found him liable for sexually abusing her. she is coming out here on the campaign trail at an important time, for days before the new hampshire primary. she ultimately told me that she

did not believe e. jean carroll. i think it is worth noting that nikki haley and ron desantis have not come out and used the civil trial against donald trump as a political opportunity to try to undercut his support. this is, really, a point in time where we are looking forward and i have the republican party, if not in fact all of trump, is the nominee he will have to defend someone who has been found liable by a jury, last, year for having sexually abused he jean carroll. potentially costing donald trump millions of dollars at the hand of another jury. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard live in manchester new hampshire. thank you so much. good to see you, my friend. joining us now, also new hampshire, former chair of the new hampshire republican party, jennifer horn. new hajennifer, we are so happyo have you here. you are one of the experts, if you will, on all things new hampshire when it comes to politics. what is your take on this

primary process, how it is unfolding? do you think there is anything nikki haley can do between now and tuesday to put herself in a better light so voters come out and cast their ballot for her? new hampshire voters something i like to weigh in for the very last moment to make a decision. >> a lot of new hampshire voters do you like to weigh into the last moment to make their decision. but the tracking poll you just quoted a few minutes ago coming out of suffolk university is showing that folks are making their decision. trump each day for the past hour days has gone up a point or two. nikki goes up a pointer to you. it is sad for around santa's who seems to be staying static at five or 6% there. i think they are making their decision and we are seeing that. the sad thing, i think. or the biggest, most challenging thing for nikki haley is it's not just that she can get a message out there that is strong enough to overcome donald trump. it is that the voters who do

support her, their enthusiasm is very low. the same poll that you just quoted shows that 90% of the people who chose donald trump for their first choice are choosing him for him, not as a vote against someone else. whereas 46% of the folks who are voting for nikki haley are choosing her for a vote against trump, rather than a vote for her. that is an indication of the low and through the awesome. they just have not done anything particular bold. they have not done anything particularly aggressive to change those numbers -- >> the interesting thing about new hampshire is the undependable the reality of the voting in the process remains the same. we have got to bring together the energy, as you just reference.

you have to get the people who won on the job you also have your friends help you you have your friends come and they are there for you. particularly when you have partnered with them in the past. let's say you are the governor of the state. they are the congressman. you elevate them to united states senate when there is a vacancy. i would like you listened to tim scott about how he sees this presidential race. >> we need a president today who will stop the crime, the recklessness in the streets. we need a president who will restore law and order. o we need donald trump! >> madam chair, when that is your friend, how do you, how does that resonate in new

hampshire? i have had one person in hampshire say to me, well, at least he did it now as opposed to the day of the primary. the reality of it is, it doesn't matter when you do it. there is an impact. how do you read this moment for nikki? in new hampshire, and more broadly, in this presidential bid she is trying to make? >> that certainly doesn't help her and new hampshire. i would suggest that senator scott probably doesn't really bring a lot of granted state voters to the table with this endorsement. it certainly has the impact of slowing down whatever momentum she is trying so hard to build up there. when i look -- by the way, the old saying when you have friends like, these nice guy to do what he did when he did. look at it from tim scott's perspective. is he now on the list to be

considered the vice president for the ticket? he might not have a lot of impact in new hampshire but getting his voice in early puts him in great position with the eventual nominee. i think we all know donald trump will be the eventual nominee here. for trump's perspective, where does tim scott have influence? in south carolina. in nikki haley's home state. and the next state in this primary cycle. that is where he is going to be the most valuable to trump. and that is where his value to trump will translate into trump seeing him as someone to take a close look at. it is really disappointing, i will say. i really questioned what tim scott could possibly be thinking, personally, when we know what his history is. we know what his background. as we know he is one of the people who has spoken out against trump when trump has faced his worst moments during

his presidency. like so many others, expect the other. excuse me, the dominoes will continue to fall after tuesday. >> it takes a lot of chutzpah who engaged in insurrection a candidate who supports law and order. let's talk about one of the names that has not been much mention. this is from -- palmieri. despite having spent seven days in the state this week. she is talkg out new hampshire. i struggle to find a single desantis supporter. voters i talked to here did not care for his six-week abortion ban orange culture war with disney and florida's school librarians. he is now talking about the possibility of a win in the u.s. virgin islands. i've never been, i've always wanted to go not necessarily seen -- not necessarily a big stop on a lot of presidential nominating trains. >> when i'm with michael, never been, would love to go. however, rhonda centers he just

had a couple days ago that he thought that money to stay in the race to stay until the end of march which put some past super tuesday. any purpose he could possibly have left for staying in the range this simply to be there just in case. to still be out there on the trail just in case something blows up on donald trump. as we have seen, exit polls in iowa and a lot of the polls that are taking place in other parts of the country, the republicans are with trump no matter what he could get convicted and sent to jail and they are saying they're still with him >> reporter:. if he is convicted of any these crimes that he is facing, any of these trials that he is facing, he would still be qualified to be president of the united states into lead our country. i think, to me, the only thing around desantis is really doing right now is draining down the account before he closes it out altogether.

>> he wanted to drain the swamp. here he is, granting the count. jennifer horn, thank you so much. up next, donald trump's easy victory in iowa may have about some of his biggest loss of the candidate in the general election. you're watching msnbc weekend. eken d. world keeps moving, help prevent covid-19 from breaking your momentum. you may have already been vaccinated against the flu, but don't forget this season's updated covid-19 shot too. with the majority of my patients with sensitivity i see irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum and enamel it relieves sensitivity helps restore gum health and rehardens enamel. i am a big advocate of recommending things that i know work.

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caucuses, his campaign showed serious signs of weaknesses and i was bigger cities and suburbs. the biden harris campaign will certainly target these areas in swing states in the coming months. new reporting in today's new york times reads, quote, th biden's campaign internal data has found nearly three qu of its, so called, targeted voter universe did not believe trump will be the repu nominee. those voters are broadside of americans who are not plugged into the news and don't currently support the presidents reelection. during that conversation, political white house correspondent and coauthor, eugene daniels, also an msnbc political contributor, we are finally here, right? we are talking about the contours of the potential

general action for voters are tuning in and coming to the realization that donald trump could actually be the gop nominee. that calcifying changes the dynamics. >> it does, you look at iowa and we see how good he's gonna be that we get over 50% over -- he has his hands on the gop better than we thought, right? nikki haley who folks thought maybe would be second. that did not happen we go into new hampshire the numbers turn and look at the numbers obama went through this. you know why, maybe i was gonna vote for someone else. because the front runner is doing what i thought they were gonna do, i'm gonna go ahead and do with that. i want to be at the winning team at the end of the day. nikki haley, ron desantis, are not really giving voters a reason to move from donald trump. to go from koch to code light. >> that's what i said.

some say that is good for joe biden. >> exactly. at the end of the day the democrats couldn't do -- you can do that in 2020. we had that with a suburban voters. they did not do well in d'entremont iowa. they are gonna do that with the move forward. they're gonna have suburban women, white or black, any reason to run back to the republican party. any way shape or form, these are women who the job on a campaign, kamala harris, can deal with really. well >> you forsake the health care, if the house cares abortion to providence and help either. touting the row -- you put all these justices on the court to overturn roe v. wade. again, that is not giving iowa supporters their freedoms. >> no, not at all. he is trying to walk this fine line where he is taking credit for the justices, and roe, but also saying, in the future, he will negotiate about these things. negotiate and find the best deal for abortion.

that is not a reality. >> i think that there is all of that. and there is all of these little sub narratives. these things that are animating these voters. we talk about the economy, we talk about the warriors. at the end of the day, americans just don't like each other. americans just ddonald trump kn. >> really? you really believe that? >> i don't. but i am saying donald trump believes that. he pushes that narrative out there. there is a level -- there is a level that does permeate. i do believe they don't like their fellow americans as much as they should. tom nichols, for example, in the atlantic. talking about, quote, millions of american stung by the electoral rebukes of their fellow citizens. they have become so resentful and detached from reality that they have plunged into a moral void. a more vortex that

disintegrates questions of politics or policies and replaces them with heroic fantasies of redeeming a supposedly fallen nation. that is mcgraw, it is trump. that is the america they want to create. we are going to redeem ourselves. all of us are fallen, right? trump will help us rise again that narrative going into the election cycle is why you see the performative nature tim scott and elise stefanik playing to this man, this nugget king, who is going to deliver us. what the hell is that? how do you think that works out, folks? >> and that is less about people not like each other and republicans, donald trump specifically, do a really job of making people fear each other, right? sometimes fear can come out as anger, right?

donald trump republicans overall have spent a lot of time and making white evangelicals scared of the other. even when donald trump is running against white people, that is why he gives a nickname. he's kind other than. you can other them but calling them liars, and cheaters, he is very good at it. the problem with our politics, it is a cultural problem, right? it has gone beyond people can't sit in a church pew with people who voted differently than them. that is at the core of understanding our politics. don trump there is no one better utilizing all that feel. this person is the reason why you are scared for your kids going to school. instead of some of the reasons that is happening. >> that is why i think a lot

has been made about, oh, is joe biden really the right person to be running? i continue telling my democratic friends, he is running. it is too late. we already all have this conversation. i actually think he is the right person to be running for that actual point. that is donald trump. to about an is the polar opposite of that. someone who many would argue to his detriment when it comes to folks in congress, if you will, going to great lengths to demonstrate that you can work with everyone. maybe people are turning into that. it is the president account that the president -- not his account on twitter, but the other one. joe biden's account on twitter. his on the other one. this is what he said. close to 24 hours after donald trump won iowa our campaign raised more than 1.6 million from grass ray tuners. our campaign is nurses and teaches versus extreme maga republicans. we need you with us.

it is time to get on board. look, i don't want to vittorio and the retribution. i'm someone sitting at home saying, well, what is uncle joe gonna give us? maybe i need to go ahead and get my $25 every month. see what we can do to save democracy. >> you still have the vitriol. you walk out the front door, your neighbor next door won't talk to you. as you noted, your other. that is the joe biden reality that he is going to cut through. it's good he raised one point $6 million. but you need to find 1.6 million votes, time and time again, every day, to build a kind of campaign that is going to give you a win. >> but what the campaign believes, truly, and into their bones, is that as people start realizing that donald trump is actually going to be the nominee, over and over, not just democrats but those republicans and independents are saying, something will happen. donald trump won't be the nominee. as we get closer, as he gets that coronation this summer, i

think voters, some of the voters who voted for joe biden in 2020 because they are scared of donald trump, they kind of walked away from him a little bit, they are probably gonna come back. that is what the campaign believes. that is what they are banking on. >> well we see that sometimes. >> stick around, we have a lot more to talk about. speaker johnson has only been on the job for, drumroll folks, 87 days. can he make it to 100 days? it is a real question because his future might be in jeopardy more than ever after congress avoided a government shutdown this week thanks to democrats. this is the weekend. new herbal essences sulfate free. packed with pure aloe and camellia flower oil your hair will love. and none of the things it won't. hair that feels deeply nourished, soft and lightweight. new herbal essences.

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this week to, temporarily, fund the government until march. between now and then johnson has the seemingly impossible task of getting hard right republicans to budge just a little bit on their ridge demands which include deep budget cuts, strict new immigration policies and no more into ukraine. they are refusing to sign off on a long term spending bill until those demands are met. back with us is eugene daniels. eugene, you have this tiktok between the white house and the freedom caucus. they are in the middle of this, the speaker, trying to figure ultimately where he lands on. this what is your reporting telling him at this point the speaker's, at least, moving towards? tiktok, indecision has got to be made. >> it is not just the white house. it is also senate democrats. it is also how democrats. it is some republicans, right?

>> they are getting annoyed. >> they are getting really annoyed! everyone is getting very annoyed by this. we have the speakership vacancy fights and all of that at the end of last year. everyone thinks, you think about congress, they think they're about at her job. what they're really thinking about is how cohen really moving anything forward. everyone else is getting sick of being tarred and feathered with all of the house republican conference. the things that we know about how jobs work, it doesn't tell people. there are things that he doesn't tell some of his aides. and -- >> people walk out of meetings with him. they are not sure where exactly he is. >> exactly. he will keep things very close. and that includes from us. when he has these calls with anybody, a lot of my colleagues on the hill get live text messages from folks. he's telling them, stop telling olivia -- he's trying to keep the stuff very close. i think at the end of the day

knows that he's gonna have to do stuff that they are probably going to be upset about, right? he just had to do it. it is about how many things can he do -- >> just trying to get to 100 days, at least. [laughter] >> just moving for. and no matter what people said before, that the end of the day you are going to need democrats to pass any of this and get it to the presidents desk. >> just a quick follow-up on the. he is pitching to democrats. i've been curious what you guys think about the fact that you have democrats now saying, hey, we will help now. if he gets in trouble, we will have now. >> democrats of the day might be willing. pete aguilar was asked about this at the dems house conference that they do. they do a press conference, weekly. he was asked about this. yeah. it depends on what we would have to have a conversation on where he's gonna come down on things. democrats have said they are

ready and they want to govern. this was the fourth time over just the past year that the republican speaker had to rely on democratic votes to push a bill over the line. 100 republicans voted against mike johnson. he is finding out, frankly, like johnson, that governing this particular caucus in this house, these republicans, it is not as easy as it looks. maybe speaker mccarthy wasn't so bad. according to those rogue weakens! >> look, it never looked easy, right? it always looked hard. once you get in there, it is much harder. he came from that group, right? he thought that because he was so conservative maybe he could do something with them and convince them of things. >> chief cheerleader of the insurrection. >> right [laughter] >> he was! >> when you have someone going in thinking that way he is probably surprised at how much they attack him. you never think the line is gonna be your face. when it comes to democrats and

why they're not they're gonna help out, hakeem jeffries does a really good job of keeping that conference together. if he allows it, you just need a few people, right. a motion to vacate actually comes to the floor, you only need a few people to go that way. there are not going to be defections. there will be people who have been given permission to vote that way. >> absolutely. >> they would've done that with mccarthy. but the sunday book or that week, he got kicked out, he went out and talked junk. >> he was on the sunday shows after the democrats saved him and push that continuing resolution of the law and they said it was the democrats fault that everything is like this. democrats are like, okay. >> right? you can't do that. they are human! >> we are taking our ball, we are going. home >> they went home and said, we are not having this guy anymore. >> let the lie need's face. >> i love that. >> i have ordered the turtleneck. >> please, do! >> get it in purple. >> okay, we are going to discuss this after the fact. i think you look great in a

turtleneck,. michael strong shoulders. we love to see. jayden daniels, we love to see you. thank you very much. speaker mike johnson, we want you to make it to 100 days. we are watching. folks, the senate is closing in on an immigration deal. the question is, why are house republicans trying to kill a border deal that house republicans are pushing. the mayor john gales in mesa, arizona, joins us next. you are watching the weekend. but i'm protected with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd, and certain other conditions. but i'm protected. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective in preventing lower respiratory disease from rsv and over 94% effective in those with these health conditions.

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rain beginning, the system is broken. my first day in office i sent congress a comprehensive plan on immigration reform. my friends on the other side have done nothing with. that over and over i have asked for resources to type of action at the border. in october, i asked congress to fund another 20, 22,000 additional border agents and officers. hundreds of new immigration judges to make the judgments on

the spot, a new detection equipment to stop fentanyl from coming into the country. >> president biden there addressing new york converts a mayors at the white house yesterday, reiterating the need for a bipartisan agreement on immigration reform. mesa, arizona mayor john chiles co-chairs a conference committee on immigration reform. he joins us now. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. >> mayor, it is so good to see. you told our publication, i'm doing my best while i'm out here to explain to my republican colleagues they ought to take a win. what are folks missing in this conversation? how do you feel about the potential for some type of immigration bill that will speak to border security coming together? optimistic, not optimistic? >> i have been nothing but pessimistic for the last few decades. anyone who has follow this issue, if you weren't pessimistic, or a little depressed about it, you weren't paying attention. my emotions have changed for the first time in a long time.

there now is this perfect storm coming together where, in addition to board the mayors like myself, pointing out the obvious, we now have large eastern coast democratic led cities that are joining that chorus. >> like new york? >> new york, chicago, denver. kansas city! there is a lot. the list goes on and on. literally tens of thousands of migrants are now in the city's. the chorus has gone from the border state mayors, to the entire country of mayors, talking about this. bless their hearts, my republican house colleagues that have been tying immigration reform and border security to all the other important issues in this country, they have now won this battle. no one is objecting to border security anymore. you heard the president saying this is a priority. he's ready to sign the compromise legislation that we think it's gonna be coming out of the senate negotiations next week.

right now my biggest concern is the republicans in the house are going to screw this up. they are not going to just take a win. everything that they needed to accomplish has been accomplished. the only reason to vote against this would be petty politics. just trying to deny the president any kind of a win on the issue. >> how is that being received by the mayor's, generally speaking? particularly those who have to deal with the consequences of the federal government's inability to, the last 15 20 years, to really address this issue. mayors, like yourself, whether your border city community or not, still have some offense. we watched what has happened. texas shooting migrants up to new york. now the mayor of new york is dealing with markets going in. same here in washington d.c. with mayor bowser having to do with these issues. when you see here, the deal, we

got it on, here it is. you have folks, no, we are not doing that. we don't want to do that. for the reasons that are really purely partisan. how to marital spawned that and pushback? >> it's very frustrating. like i said, it used to be it was a border state marriage caught up in this. cities like mesa, when the resources of the federal government and the border cities in north galas, human, and tucson are bianca pasadena, then it will count to mesa. our role was essentially help taking care of people as they pass through our communities as they move to other locations. now you have the interior cities of the country being impacted so severely, again, that is what has brought us to a critical place where we can actually see something getting done. mayors everywhere, i think, you will see the frustration. if not now, i don't know when. we have to pay the political consequences of actually treating this like a problem to be solved, rather than a political issue. >> when you talk about the

contours of the senate deal, one of the things they're reckoning with is the presidents parole authority. the ability you saw people -- the biden administration announced special parole for a nicaraguans, cubans, haitians. one of the things that border patrol found was there were less apprehension of those groups between ports of entry after that was announced. this deal would rollback that authority. i am a little confused about why you would put aside a tool that has been proven to work? >> the underlying fix to the immigration issue is fundamental reforms that are going to reduce the demand at the borders. right now the cartels are making bank on this, right? they are literally -- the border policies being run by mexican drug cartels that have shifted to being immigration hotels. so once there is some actual immigration reform, and the rules have changed and there is not an optimistic reason for people to give their life

savings to organized crime in order to get -- >> if they have a legal pathway. >> exactly. if the rules are changed and there are bright lines of people know what to expect, we'll take it out of the hands of the organized crime and put it back into a more organized way to get into the united states. >> one of the biggest folks pooh-poohing, for lack of a better term, the steal, even though they have yet to see anything on paper, is donald trump. he is one of the main obstacles to these conservative maga house republicans, their support of this legislation. as i think everybody here knows, i used to work in the biden administration when they first came, when we first came into office, and i have to tell, you i worked on the root causes of migration, and what donald trump's immigration policy did to this country was devastating. he gutted the system. there was no there was literally no infrastructure, as i think you all well know. are you concerned about donald trump, the influence that he has on these republicans in the

house? and frankly, the fact that he could be, it looks like he's going to be the republican nominee. >> i am concerned that house republicans will not have a spine, and they will put partisan politics above what's in the best interest of the country. and if they think there's some political that they are not willing to do something that is positive for the country because that might reflect positively on the president of the united states and job number one is getting him unelected, not solving the problems of our country, that's a huge concern. and that's the message i think we have to focus on for the next couple of weeks. , please and we have a once in a generation opportunity to actually accomplish something on immigration. that's something i hope they will take a lot of pride in. and they know the folks that they represent really need them to take pride in that. >> you know, i said we had governor wes moore of maryland last week. i said the governors and the mayors seem to be working it out across the country. y'all need to sprinkle a little something on congress. you have the house republicans,

to be specific, later. just give them something. >> something needs to be spread. [laughter] >> the mayor of mesa, arizona, john just, thank you so much being sir here, sir. up next, the new call from donald trump's former allies to speak out against him before the 2024 election. this is the weekend. s the weekend. as the world keeps moving, help prevent covid-19 from breaking your momentum. you may have already been vaccinated against the flu, but don't forget this season's updated covid-19 shot too. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. hi. are you ready? are you santiago's mother? yes, i am. and she's a thief!

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like the republican nominee for president all the time. yes, he is. but could all the king's man be the key to stopping his reelection? that's a good question. it w posted by sarah longwell of the lwk as she argues, in herew op-ed, it's for former trump officials to come out against him. longwell writes quote, if we want to stopa trump restoration and the promised market dictatorship, it's going to require building a coalition of people who derstand the stakes. and there are no messengers better ed tconvey the peril of the trump presidency then those who lived firsthand on the inside. i love the sentiment. it makes me feel so good inside. and it makes sense. but those people don't exist. am i right or am i wrong? tell me where they are, because the last time -- >> they're all the people who have come out and on one think piece, and they need to be doing it as a consistent sharon. >> they do.

but then, they stand up on a stage in front of america and they raised their hand and say, i will vote for the convicted felon. so, tell me where they are. >> in the piece, longwell, she pulls out specific names. put them on the screen. she writes the servicemen, like mike mark milley. the party loyalists, like betsy devos, the candidates, like mike pence, the don't know if betsy devos is in opposition to a donald trump reelection. >> mike pence? >> and mike pence is one of his senior aides, just want to go sign on and work for the trump campaign. and everybody knows nick air knows that that is, not surprised. this is just the conversation we had about oh, the candidates there was no competition in this primary. it wasn't a competition because they refuse to compete. >> exactly. >> what if all of the people that know better, the people who whisper privately, and it's not a risk for their lovely shouting,, please don't put me on the record. republicans, people who are for donald trump or in the administration that say, i think he's crazy and he should

never be allowed back into the oval office. those people have to come out and speak out aggressively and often. >> they do. but they won't. and they do need to do that, they won't do that. >> why not? i don't have to ask you to speak for them. >> that's a seven year problem. that's a seven year problem. and the reality of it is, particularly when you look at the leadership issue that, stewardess. i've made this case for the very beginning. at the end of the day, when you go back and look at history, those moments where you could go right or left, a poor, down in the country, for good or bad, leaders in the congress, leaders across the country stood up and said, this way. or no, we're not going to do that. here, they've just remained silent or acquiesced to it, and i think that's what drives a lot of this energy around trump. not only are there no consequences for his behavior, there are no leaders that will call out that behavior.

to even get to the point where we would have to impose consequences. >> can you tell us what's happening with a leave stefanik? >> and stefanik and tim scott want to be donald trump's vice president. it is without hesitation or doubt. so, make will do the sycophantic dance. they will sound stupid defending him, they will do whatever they think will ingratiate them to donald trump, and that, to me, is not leadership. that is pathetic, in my view. but that's what the party wants to see! they want to see you make that level of commitment, and those of us out here who won't, we are supposedly the crazy ones. no, boo, that ain't how it is. >> i have long said the problem with so many people as they do not know where the professional or professional line is. i used to be a spokesperson for a very long time, and there were some things i would not do or say. these folks gotta find their personal professional line and

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