anywhere else. i think the next three months are filled with trial balloons of third party candidates that say -- that doesn't mean they will pop. i think now that's the vacuum that's going to be filled. there are enough voters like those voters. >> who would throw it out? >> you saw it. larry hogan wouldn't rule it out. joe manchin not rule it out. the problem they have is, i don't think a recovering politician is the type of person to run as a third party. you need someone like arnold schwarzenegger and he is not eligible. thanks for being here. >> thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," it's donald trump's party. the former president winning three-quarters of the republican vote in new hampshire. dominating nikki haley who won most of the independents but not

enough to overtake the frontrunner. the republican chairwoman declaring the primary is over before the polls closed. haley says she's just getting started. that angered donald trump who was anything but gracious in victory. >> this race is far from over. there are dozens of states left to go. >> let's not have somebody take a victory when she had a very bad night. >> i'm a fighter. and i'm scrappy. and now we're the last one standing next to donald trump. >> i find in life you can't let people get away with bull [ bleep ]. >> what we learned from the exit polls and the new delegate map the trump team put in place. president biden sending his top political aides to shake up the campaign while the president

also declares it's game on against donald trump. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. donald trump is coming off a resounding win in new hampshire. the only republican in a competitive primary to win both iowa and new hampshire and do it by double digits. nikki haley finishes 11 points behind, better than expectations, but refusing to end her campaign despite losing key groups of republicans by wide margins and phasing an uphill march to the nomination with the republican delegate process rigged against any challenger. she's now pinning her hopes on south carolina with a rally tonight and a tv ad buy. haley arguing -- pointing to the polls that she, not trump, can defeat joe biden. >> the worst kept secret in politics is how badly the democrats want to run against

donald trump. >> a little note to nikki. she's not going to win. >> the president wasn't on the ballot but won last night's symbolic democratic write-in vote. he is shifting to the general election, moving two top political advisors from the white house to his campaign. we start in new hampshire with garrett haake and mike memoli and in new york, kristin welker. garrett, donald trump seemeden raged by how nikki haley reacted to her loss, by coming back and challenging him rather than throwing in the towel. what does this show? >> reporter: yeah, look, donald trump was frustrated by nikki haley speech and by the fact she appears committed to sticking around. saw you it on truth social. he called her delusional. his campaign is going to pivot to going after her aggressively in the next couple of weeks. if you think you saw aggressive, wait until you see now and the

south carolina primary a month from now. digging into the numbers, you see the strengths and weaknesses for donald trump last night. if you look at who he won, it looks like the republican primary electorate. it's self-described republican voters in which he dominated. it's lower income voters and voters with no college degree. that's who makes up the republican primary electorate in many of the states we will see in the coming months. when you look into the groups nikki haley won, you see the weaknesses for donald trump in a general election. nikki haley won with more moderate voters, with first-time primary voters, and independent voters. these are the people you have to win in battleground states if you want to become president of the united states. last night while it was a very good night for donald trump, it was also a little bit of an x-ray of the challenges he potentially faces going forward in the fall should he lock up the nomination. >> trump was brutal towards haley in his speech last night.

she really stepped it up. is this a preview of the next four weeks before we get to the south carolina voting on the 24th of february? >> i think it is a preview of what we are going to see. you are going to see former president trump and his allies try to apply pressure to nikki haley to get out of the race. we saw that with the rnc chairwoman who called for unity, all but saying it's time for nikki haley to drop out. we are starting to see other gop senators, members of congress coalesce around trump. all of that's going to apply pressure. here is the big question. here is what we are watching for. what do haley's donors have to say about all of this? right now, her campaign officials telling me, look, they are confident their donors are with them. there's a month until south carolina. will that remain the case if she tips to trail trump by double digits? garrett laid out some of what we

learned last night. i want to delve into a couple of topics. what we learned about independents. look at her margin with independents and how many turned out last night. 44% of those who voted in the new hampshire primary describe themselves as independent. why is that significant? because it underscores why new hampshire is made for nikki haley and why her path just gets that much more challenging moving forward into south carolina and a lot of the super tuesday states where you have about double the amount of republicans and fewer independents. the other thing that was notable -- this might be significant from a general election standpoint. 51% said no, president biden, did not legitimately win in 2020. of course, that has been challenged in court. he did win legitimately. that's how many people believe what trump has said. that's the type of challenge

that the biden folks are up against in this re-election effort. some lessons there not just about the primary but also potentially about the general election as well. just going back to the original point, nikki haley is facing a really uphill battle when it comes to the actual math and now the momentum. donald trump has two big wins under his belt. he has a lot of momentum heading into south carolina where he locked up the endorsement of the delegation there as well as a number of top officials and the governor as well. >> the record republican turnout, what did it tell you? >> look, it tells you that people are energized around donald trump. it also tells you that he was not given a mandate. he got over 50%. they say if he is being viewed as an incumbent, why isn't that margin even higher? that's part of the argument for

why nikki haley is staying in this race. what was notable is that you really had this divide amongst how many people described themselves as maga republicans. part of that could be because that term has been turned into a pejorative by president biden. it speaks to the fact that there are some warning signs for former president trump in this general election as he heads forward. >> mike memoli, let's talk about the biden staff shakeup that they say is not a shakeup. we all know that jen o'malley dillon is basically the delegate race strategist for joe biden. there's no one closer to him than mike when it comes to politics, speech writing and everything else. >> reporter: that's right. as you say, the campaign

certainly sensitive to the perception that this is a shakeup. the context is so important. there had been concerns, there had been pleas to the biden team to take these kinds of steps weeks ago, not just from rank and file democrats but from no other than the former president of the united states, barack obama. when i spoke with julie chavez rodriguez last night, she's the campaign manager. she cast this as simply an all hands on deck moment, an acceleration of steps that were ultimately going to happen but were taking place now because of what we are seeing on the republican side. the fact the republican nomination race is from the perspective of the biden team and the president himself over. the president releasing that statement last night as the results were coming in to say that we are now set into this general election race. it's familiar to me in this respect. it was in new hampshire four years ago when the then candidate joe biden was struggling ahead of the primary here that we saw a similar

shakeup in the campaign. ultimately, it was jen o'malley dillon who became the manager. mike had been part of the key strategy sessions as it relates to this campaign. they were doing so from the west wing. they were splitting their time with official duties. now they are going to be spending time, of course, in campaign headquarters alongside the team moving forward. the biden campaign today saying that they feel the new hampshire results here validate the plan they have had in place, that there are independent voters that they believe are favorable to the president in november. >> mike memoli, kristin welker, garrett haake, come on home. we miss you here. the numbers game. steve kornacki joining me from the big board to dig into the vote breakdown from new hampshire with an eye towards

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nikki haley hopes of beating donald trump are facing a daunting math game. states where the former president has strong support. joining us is steve kornacki. how do the new rules play out for nikki haley or really any challenger to donald trump right now? >> i think the key thing to keep in mind is that republicans in setting the calendar, setting delegate rules, did it with a mind towards wrapping this process up as fast as possible, getting a nominee as early in the calendar as possible. play it forward here. you see the current delegate

count. what comes next on the calendar? it's a complicated story in nevada. trump is the only one eligible to get the 26 delegates there. virgin islands. south carolina, the next major test. the rule you will start to see in these states, not all but a lot, is basically they give out delegates two ways. one is by congressional district. every congressional district going to get three delegates. the rules are simply, if you get 50% plus one in a district, you get all of the delegates. in a two-person race, which this is, somebody is getting 50.1%. there's a pool of statewide delegates. that's true in south carolina. that's true in these other states as well. in a lot of them, the rule is, you get 50% plus one, you get the statewide delegates. in 2016, donald trump got 33% of the vote. that's what haley could be up against.

trump doesn't have to win the state by a lot to get all of the delegates. haley says she's in this at least through super tuesday. here is the calendar. here is everything that's up for grabs. first question is, when you look at the states, how many of them are going to have an electorate that looks anything like what we saw in new hampshire last night? we saw the independents, all the moderates, a favorable group for haley, where else would you find that? maybe in massachusetts to a degree. in vermont, maybe a little bit in virginia. hard to find in these other states. one to point out, the biggest california, rules were changed. winner take all for the state. you get 50% plus one, you automatically get all 169 delegates. trump doesn't have to win by a lot to get a ton of delegates on super tuesday. >> let's talk about the exit polls. there was interesting data on

abortion. it's the big issue for democrats in terms of people not wanting a complete ban. >> look here in the republican primary last night in new hampshire. we asked the question in the exit poll, do you favor a federal law banning abortion nationwide? two-thirds said they oppose it. 27% favor. among those favoring it, overwhelmingly trump won that group. i think he got 80% with that group. this is a big reversal from what we saw a week ago in iowa. there was more support than opposition. the key is, it's demographic. we talked about this in the run-up. iowa, more than half, 55% of the republican electorate, evangelical christian.

play it forward, go to south carolina next, 2016, 72% of the south carolina republican primary electorate was evangelical. this is an issue where south carolina will break a lot more like iowa than it did new hampshire. >> steve kornacki, as always, thank you. the game plan. nikki haley heading home to what she called her sweet state of south carolina. how sweet will it be? gwen: hi, we've both got a big birthday coming up. so we have a lot of questions about medicare plans. anne: we've got a lot of answers. how can i help? fran: well for starters, do you include hearing benefits? anne: how about a plan with dental,

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hampshire and iowa, nikki haley is facing an uphill battle in south carolina wheald trump has dominated the endorsements, getting all the endorsements except for one member of congress, despite her being a former governor. senator tim scott not only endorsed mr. trump after dropping out of the race, he was on the stage last night, even though haley appointed him to the senate. he joined trump in trump's efforts to humiliate haley last night. >> she appointed you, tim. think of it. and you are the senator of the state. she endorsed me. you must really hate her. it's a shame.

>> i just love you. >> that's why he's a great politician. >> i don't have words. joining me now susan del percio, charlie sykes and alencia johnson. susan, nikki haley stepped up her criticism of donald trump. she was very strong in her speech last night. she's being careful though. does she need to bring more fire between now and south carolina? does she lose anything or does she have to worry about the maga base in south carolina and those super tuesday states? >> she's got to bring a lot more to it. perhaps she can go after trump in a way i think on the acuity issue is good when saying we don't need trump and biden is good. the money she's going to get going forward is going to come from people who want to see her take on trump.

it's a two-person race. it's not enough to be not donald trump. she's got to go for it. she's in a place where she can do it. most candidates don't go home to their home state and their own house and sleep there every night. she can really rest up and decide to bring it home. >> charlie sykes, donald trump is not the only -- right now, the only non-incumbent republican candidate to win iowa and new hampshire. the exit polls show there is weaknesses, certainly in a general election. >> no. both in iowa and new hampshire, yes, he is dominant in the republican party but he is vulnerable. i think it's worth paying attention to what we are seeing from the polls about moderates, independents. many of the soft republicans who abandoned the party in '20 and 2022, and many of them are saying they are never going to

vote for donald trump. there may not be a huge number of these voters, but there's more than enough to make a difference in many swing states. we have two narratives. number one, his iron grip on the republican party. but his increased shakiness among the swing voters he is going to need in the general election. >> president biden now -- they are not calling it a shakeup. it was anticipated all along that they would go over to the campaign. they're doing it now. they are in general election mode. some people in the party criticized them for not ramping up sooner, even some people very close to the administration, some people within the administration wanted it see more. notably in his last couple of speeches, he has been very strong. they seem to be really getting it together. >> yeah. i think, look, i worked on a re-election campaign in 2012. you do start ramping up after

the holidays. this is kind of the normal trajectory. right now culturally, we have social media and this 24-hours news cycle that people pay more attention. this is the right time. it's early in the primary. the republicans still have to officially declare donald trump as the nominee. the speech yesterday around abortion rights with him and vice president harris is clearly indicating that abortion is going to be one of the deciding issues. they are ramping up in states. they are talking to issues. it's signaling to the american people that we are taking this serious and we're about to double down. very early on in the primary cycle. >> susan, donald trump, while saying it was a miracle he got those supreme court justices on, which made all the difference, of course, in the dobbs

decision, so he is taking ownership. you can't deny that. he came out against desantis' six-week ban in florida. he is trying to moderate himself to get around this issue. can he escape? >> he may be trying to moderate. it's not going to work. he owns what happened with the supreme court. he bragged about it. the words are going to be there. there's not a person out there who is following politics that doesn't know that roe v. wade was overturned because of donald trump. again, going to those moderate states, those swing states, it's going to be a disaster for him in the general election. that's the one thing haley can leverage from new hampshire is that it's looking less and less likely that trump can win swing states like new hampshire who have a strong independent streak. when it comes to the abortion, i expect it to go down to the same

issue of freedom, freedom of democracy, freedom over a woman's body. it should make a huge change, especially with the states that have it on their own ballot for their state constitution. >> charlie, susan, alencia, thanks to you. the battle lines. israel intensifying military operations in key areas of war-torn gaza. hostage families cling to hopes for a deal to free their loved ones. that plus a possible mis-hit by israel against a u.n. refugee camp. all that coming up next. ting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost.

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nine people have died, 75 are wounded after two tank rounds hit a u.n. building sheltering 800 civilians in gaza, according to a senior u.n. official. we are learning the u.s. fired three missiles toward a u.s. flag container ship. the u.s. struck three sites in western iran associated with militias who americans blame for the attack that injured four u.s. service members. joining me now on all of this from tel aviv is nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley. so much going on. gaza authorities say at least 50 people were killed in khan yunis in the last 24 hours. this includes the u.n. complex,

according to the director of the refugee program. what do you know? >> reporter: there were tens of thousands of people who were sheltering at that training center. they were all there and then there was this mass casualty event. this sounds like what we are hearing are the preliminary numbers of casualties. it's possible that this could go up as the dead start to be counted. these were a lot of people who had been moved from elsewhere in the gaza strip. khan yunis, this area almost surrounded by the idf, it was housing mostly people who had moved from the northern part of the gaza strip. if you remember months ago when the israelis announced those people in the northern part of the gaza strip should move south. they did. now the israelis are attacking khan yunis in the southern part of the enclave. we are seeing a lot of people who are displaced being displaced yet again or being injure order killed in continuing israeli attacks.

the israelis, for their part, have said a lot of the targets, including universities and hospitals and we see a lot of action around certain hospitals, that hamas has been using the civilian facilities as essentially human shields. even those who have been displaced by fighting, hamas is firing at idf soldiers from behind them. this is an allegation that hamas has denied but the israelis have stuck to even as they continue their advancement into the gaza strip. we see more and more casualties. now, we are approaching nearly 25,000 people dead in the gaza strip ever since october 7th. >> yesterday was the single worst day for the idf with 24 soldiers who were hit or maybe it was the day before yesterday -- i think it was yesterday, was it not? the funerals were today. >> reporter: i think it was the day before yesterday. it was the day before yesterday, 24 idf soldiers killed, 21 of them in just up with incident. >> matt bradley from the war

zone. thank you very much. joining us now is ambassador pinkus, former advisor to prime ministers in israel. we are hearing about new proposals for a pause in the fighting of different durations to release hostages. there are different time frames for a pause. hamas demanding a permanent cease-fire. israel putting up objections to a permanent cease-fire, which they object to, but also raising issues about what happens after the fighting, which are very objectionable to hamas. are they getting closer to a hostage agreement? is there an impetus on both sides to wanting a pause in the fighting? >> yes. hi, andrea. you are right. there seems to be an impetus on both sides to get some deal done. as for the durations of the

cease-fire or the cessation of hostilities or prolonged pauses, the question is whether or not they are linked to the -- to post-war gaza. if you happen to have read david ignatius' article yesterday in the "washington post," he outlines and articulates the american thinking within the administration on how to tie a hostage deal and a cessation of hostilities into a longer cease-fire without any side having to concede that they agree to a cease-fire. that would be somehow linked to a post-war day after gaza. that, i think, is still far away. however, a hostage deal mediated by the qataris, egypt with

american encouragement, seems to be resurrected after a few weeks of nothing going on there. >> having traveled with secretary blinken through the region, he was keeping them on parallel or different tracks, different time frames, hostage deal first, day after and normalization and all the rest. but then in davos, a number of the arab countries were pushing it should be linked. i want to ask you on friday, the tragedy of a 17-year-old american teenager born in louisiana, living in the west bank, his father is an american citizen, killed in the west bank. our colleague raf sanchez interviewed the father, showed the windshield of the car. family insists that he was shot by an israeli settler, the idf did nothing to protect him. there are denials from israel. is israel investigating this?

>> the army is investigating. i saw the report by raf sanchez. it's a tragedy, like you say. it could have been avoided. look, there has been criticism within israel, obviously, outside of israel, but also within israel, even before october 7th that the settlers and some settler elements have been going on violent sprees and that the military, the idf has done very little to stop them, was indifferent to their actions and even was encouraging them. these were very isolated incidents. but nonetheless, it accelerated since october 7th, because the west bank all of a sudden became an arena that could be a focal point of escalation. it still remains that way. per your question, it is being investigated.

whether or not anyone will be held responsibility, i doubt it. >> there's been a lot of disagree between european union -- europe foreign ministers and the eu and israeli counterparts on what happens the day after. israel is now talking with some of the right wing ministers talking about the creation of an island, which suggests some resettlement, which is a non-starter for the u.s. israel is now -- we heard the international court -- criminal court of justice, rather, in the hague is going to rule on this friday morning our time on the south african genocide petition, which is just raising a lot of concerns in israel among the officials i talked to. it's not binding, but there are

penalties. >> it is binding. what they are about to decide is not a final verdict. that takes a year, two years. what they have been asked by the south african petitioners was to issue an injunction of sorts or a provisional decision calling for a cease-fire on humanitarian and medical grounds. if they so decree, then it is binding. if israel does not adhere and comply with that decision, then it moves to the security council, because the icj operates -- its source of authority is the united nations security council. in the security council, israel as always relies on an american veto. this is going to put the biden administration in a bind here. on the one hand, they have been insistent in the objection to calling this genocide. there's been a petition, a letter from members of congress

to that effect, over 200 if i remember correctly. however, the entire prosecution in the last two months has not been something the americans have really supported. they have urged israel time and time again -- secretary blinken said they are not happy with how the military operation is going on. they never called for a cease-fire, although they don't call it genocide, but they never called for a cease-fire. if it does -- if such a decision is made and it does real the -- it does reach the security council, it's a big headache for the biden administration. >> they would have to veto it. >> they can't force israel to stop fighting.

it would be a huge embarrassment. it's politically toxic. last night at his rally with the vice president, there were protesters again, about a dozen times, interrupting his rally. >> it does. look at the numbers in michigan, wisconsin, arizona, younger people, they are saying that's the issue. i don't know if that will stay until november. right now, it is. >> you are right. thank you so much, appreciate you being here. a bipartisan group of senators inching closer to a landmark border deal. republican senate and house hardliners are not going along. hardliners are not going along

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house has agreed to, limiting the president's authority. what happened yesterday in that republican conference lunch? >> reporter: there does appear to be a concern amongst conservative republicans in particular that if they put together this border package bill and sign it into law by president biden, it would take away an issue that they believe is reallyenergizing voters, but also wouldn't solve the problem. what you see emerging is a divide between a group of republicans who believe, as james langford rightly says in your intro, could be the most conservative piece of legislation related to immigration in a generation and that this is an opportunity that will slip away if they don't take advantage right now. that's how we see this process play itself out is an attempt by negotiators to thread that needle where conservatives feel comfortable supporting this bill while at the same time feel like they put a package together that will solve the problem.

we will see if that process plays out. >> the hottest issue there is. it's an election year. we will see. they have a 3:00 meeting. i know you will be all over that. now to breaking news. russia accusing ukraine of shooting down a military plane carrying 65 ukrainian prisoners of war for a hostage exchange. this video appears to show the plane plummeting to the ground, exploding into a fireball. it's along the ukrainian border. molly hunter joins us now with more. molly, this was a pre-planned hostage exchange as we understand it. russia's argument is, ooh crepe -- ukraine knew how to target it. ukraine is denying they are shooting their own prisoners of war. >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly right. ukraine is saying there was a planned hostage exchange, prisoner exchange today that's no longer happening. that's the only thing both

sides, russia and ukraine, agree on. the only independently verifiable information that we have is that video you showed. our social news gathering team has verified the video. it shows a plane. that's the western region that borders ukraine. it's right about 25 miles across the border from kharkiv. while we are talking, i want to note the russian foreign minister is speaking at the u.n. he called for a u.n. security council meeting to talk about this. russia is saying ukraine shot it down. ukraine is not denying it. we are expecting more information out of kyiv in coming hours. >> molly hunter, thank you. a campaign information out of kyiv in coming hours, andrea. >> molly hunter, thank you. and a campaign pitch, that's coming next. a look at the brutal political battle ahead for former president trump and nikki haley, how ugly is it going to get? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. hell

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in new hampshire last night, nikki haley deployed a series of attacks against donald trump and president biden including poking fun at their age. >> a trump nomination is a biden win and a kamala harris presidency. the other day donald trump accused me of not providing security at the capitol on january 6th. [ laughter ] >> geriatric! >> i've long called for mental dependency tests for politicians over the age of 75. most americans do not want a rematch between biden and are trump. the first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the party that wins this election. >> joining me now our usa

today's washington bureau chief susan page and "washington post" national editor phil rucker, good to see you, both of you guys. susan, your big takeaways from last night, what do you mean by the warning signs for donald trump among independents based on what we saw in iowa and now new hampshire? >> yeah, well, we see donald trump has very solid support among registered republicans but not entirely, and he has solid opposition among many of the independent voters who turned out in new hampshire for nikki haley. these are voters he doesn't need to win the nomination. they are voters he'll need if he's going to reclaim the white house, and at the moment we found that most voters for nikki haley say they would be dissatisfied if trump wins the nomination for the republicans as we expect him to do. that makes him a very ripe target for joe biden. >> phil, let's talk about the legal issues which have propelled him ever since a year ago in march, the alvin bragg

indictment, his polls have been going up. what do you make of these new hampshire exit polls. 50% of the people questioned said that trump would still be fit for the presidency if he is convicted, 47% say he would not. these are among republican voters, and a 50/50 division on the question of whether president biden won the 2020 election legitimately. >> yeah, it was an interesting finding, andrea, and certainly we've seen trump's standing within the republican party among republican voters go up a lot because of these legal indictments in the beginning of some of these trials. but one thing stood out for me from that exit poll data you showed out of new hampshire when a similar question was asked of people who participated last week in the republican caucus in iowa, the numbers were even greater meaning even more participants in iowa thought trump would still be fit to serve if he were convicted. so the fact that it was are just

50% i think speaks to what susan was just talking about, about trump's vulnerabilities among independent voters because the new hampshire electorate had many of these independent voters who are the types of voters who are going to be influential in swinging some of the battleground state outcomes when you look at georgia, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, arizona in the general election with biden. this is a warning sign out of new hampshire that trump is indeed vulnerable with that part of the electorate. >> and today joe biden is going to get the endorsement here in d.c. from the united autoworkers so that's a big labor component, not just in michigan, you know, wisconsin, indiana, but a lot of other states as well. and it's no accident that abortion was the theme of their kickoff rally last night, susan, because abortion is one of the issues they see as a great vulnerability for donald trump, something dobbs decision.

he's been trying to dance around it a little bit coming out against the six-week ban of desantis in florida. can he escape it? >> i think he can ameliorate some of the political damage. i mean, people for whom abortion access is the most important issue, they're not going to be swayed by trump's evolving stance on this, but there are voters in the middle who might listen to what he has to say. now, what he's saying now is yes, i deserve credit for overturning roe v. wade. i oppose a six-week ban. i'm in favor of exceptions in cases of incest and preserving the life of the mother. he's trying to walk a fine line. he continues to have the support of antiabortion activists who credit him with getting to this point, but he doesn't want to give up those independent voters who are concerned about this issue. and in fact, when somebody -- a voter challenged him on this at a town hall in iowa, he said, you know, first we have to win elections, so he's pretty clear

on what he's doing here. >> and of course this is before the supreme court rules his supreme court rules on the abortion pill, and if that ruling comes against the medication abortion, which so so widely used, that would certainly ramp up the issue as well. and phil, you know, let's just talk about how ugly this could get in south carolina. this is the atwater, all of the nasty rumors, you know, false claims, racist claims about john mccain's child in 2000, his daughter, trump has already deployed birther taunts against, you know, nikki haley. this is not going to be a very clean race. >> yeah, andrea, there's a rich history of pretty dirty below the belt politics in south carolina, especially within republican parties in south carolina, and nikki haley has had a part of that history, when she ran for governor in 2010

she was one of four candidates in a republican field. she ran against three men, the attacks in the final weeks of that campaign were pretty brutal about haley. my colleagues ashley parker and dylan wells actually wrote a whole story a couple of weeks ago reconstructing that 2010 primary and the lessons haley learned from that experience. but i assume this could be even uglier than that. certainly because trump is her opponent, but also just because of how much sort of institutional muscle trump is going to have in that state given that he has the backing of the governor, of the senator, of members of congress, people up and down the ballot who are officials in the republican party and south carolina all working at his behest over these next few weeks in the run up to that primary. >> and susan, finally, nikki haley was really trying to weaponize the age issue against both donald trump and joe biden last night. but that issue against trump is a very tricky one, biden can't

really use it. >> it's harder for biden. i mean, nikki haley just turned 52. joe biden is 81, so it's harder, i think, for him to level attacks against trump on this issue. on the other hand, both men have a history of making kind of flummoxing misstatements. >> susan page, phil rucker, the day after, and it's on to south carolina and on after that. thank you all very much. and that does it for this post-election edition of "andrea mitchell reports," new hampshire behind us. we now go forward. follow us on social media @mitchellreports and you can rewatch the best parts of our show anytime on youtube. just go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good afternoon, i'm chris jansing reporting live from msnbc headquarters